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Old 10-09-2008, 03:33 PM
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Is there true love?

I'm here to share about my situation, and perhaps some advice would do fantastic for me right now.

It all started a few weeks back when i went up with a street walker along L8. Everything in the the room was more or less the same. but we did french and she let me do everything i wanted. I was quite surprised. Later she revealed to me that I was the first customer ever. I was thinking back then, the truth in that statement was less than 1%. It was already 2 am. so i sent her back on a cab, only to find out that she lives a stone's throw away from me. She came as a student, on a 3 year pass. and about my age as well. We exhanged numbers and it's how it began.

The next day, crazy thing first, i asked her out. It was just like a normal date, no hanky panky whatsoever, as she told me more about her life and that she came only 10 days and worked in KTV initially. I really didnt care too much about the relationship, cos i knew that it was so impossible, plus the dangers of hanging out with a PRC. But things changed. I seem to have fallen for her. It started out with just the fantasy of going out with a pretty young girl, but i could no longer suppress my emotions.

I know it sounds crazy but she really convinced me that she likes me. For 20 plus times i've been seeing her, she never demanded a cent from me. we're like a normal teenage couple. She didnt go to work, i know cos she stays over in my house. she calls me daily to tell me about her school life and stuff. I dont know how true this may sound to you guys but indeed that's what happened to me. Bros out there may have a terrible impression about PRC girls, and the $-sign face. But i really felt like being with a normal girlfriend. I'm a student as well, i dont see any other intention of her being with me. She sure has enough contacts if she needed a guy for money. (she worked in ktv).

Every part of me tells me to carry on the relationship.. I've been caught in similar situation with a WL before, certainly, it feels different this time
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Re: Is there true love?

She is here for 3 years...

*hint*.. need to have long term support so bro, look for the signals lah.

Ask yourself, if she need money.. HOW?

U going to allow her to FL or u going to give her $$ even if she dun ask for it?

If the former, ask yourself if you can take it.

Good luck! and welcome to the PRC club. I hope u dun join us in the EX-FL groups though..
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Re: Is there true love?

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I know it sounds crazy but she really convinced me that she likes me. For 20 plus times i've been seeing her, she never demanded a cent from me. we're like a normal teenage couple. She didnt go to work, i know cos she stays over in my house. she calls me daily to tell me about her school life and stuff. I dont know how true this may sound to you guys but indeed that's what happened to me. Bros out there may have a terrible impression about PRC girls, and the $-sign face. But i really felt like being with a normal girlfriend. I'm a student as well, i dont see any other intention of her being with me. She sure has enough contacts if she needed a guy for money. (she worked in ktv).

Every part of me tells me to carry on the relationship.. I've been caught in similar situation with a WL before, certainly, it feels different this time
Bro, if she has plans to suck you dry then its only normal for her to "act" like she really cares for you and not wanting you to give her money. INstead the money could be in the form of you buying her gifts and dinner and stuffs, little by little the money that you spend will be alot in time to come. my advice is that you should take a step back and look at the big picture(how she behaves and stuff) before rushing into any decision which could severely affect your life in the future, and the fact that you are still a student.

One more thing, one wouldnt mind having more money so even if she does has
her contacts for money, but if you pay for her daily expenses then it turns out that she doesnt have to fork a single cent out for her survivial here in sg. Remember most of the WL are very very good actress who can easily get an oscar award if they were nominated for it.

Lastly, if you were to get into a relationship with her. Due to the nature of her work, she will sleep with MANY MANY OTHER men and can you stand having your GF bonked by men of all races with you having full knowledge of the situation? Go to gl LOR 8 where she stands, observe her from afar and see the number of people entering the hotel with her.

P/S i'm also a teenager and but i feel if really want to have a stable GF, just find one in your school. Pretty and DECENT girls are everywhere, take your pick,no need to rush as we are still young.
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Re: Is there true love?

thanks bro
actually it's not about whether i want to give her money, fact is i can't. How much can a student give? 100 bucks? She says she doesnt want to go fl anymore, and wants to find a new job..
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Re: Is there true love?

Since its so new & still fresh, ask yourself what you wanna achieve outta all this 1st. After that, do come back with your decision.

Remember, if you wanna see the truth REVEALED, but ready for tears from her that may melt or break you deeper into a weaker state.
The bro's here have the ultimate mind fucking tests ala 101 for her to have no choice but to reveal the truth to you.
We are never worried or bothered about what she does or say when she's wif you for like what another bro said, they're all 金马将quality and will make Gong Li look like she is still in acting school.
What is the main concern here is what happens when she's not by your side....that's where always the probs or shit happens behind your back.....that grey area, is what you shud be more concerned of.

Go tink about it & do come back wif a FIRM decision and firm means firms, not 50/50 tks and good luck
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thanks bro
actually it's not about whether i want to give her money, fact is i can't. How much can a student give? 100 bucks? She says she doesnt want to go fl anymore, and wants to find a new job..
Bro.. she is on Student pass.. how to get job??

Maybe she is looking at long term.. maybe u remind her of her 1st love... maybe she is new and not seasoned enuff?

I presume she is still working as a FL? Else how she manage her expenses...
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Old 10-09-2008, 04:16 PM
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thanks bro
actually it's not about whether i want to give her money, fact is i can't. How much can a student give? 100 bucks? She says she doesnt want to go fl anymore, and wants to find a new job..
U must remember, to milk a cow doesnt mean that if you only get 2 drops of milk, that cow is not good.
Many cows make a pail of milk!
Also, she says she wanna go find work....let her go & do encourage her to do so & see what she ends up doin.
The result will reveal all to you.
If one is willing just to earn her keep to make ends meet, a waitress is the most likely job any overseas student would do.......but if she ends up at a KTV, then you know the MONEY factor is VERY important to her liao thus revealing the truth to you.
If you want to, you may PM me & i will recommend her to my mummies at all the high end KTVs for her to make her buck that's provided she meets the mark to work there in the 1st place.
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thanks bro
actually it's not about whether i want to give her money, fact is i can't. How much can a student give? 100 bucks? She says she doesnt want to go fl anymore, and wants to find a new job..
bro, may i ask whats your age?

Even if you can, why give the money to her like that? Remember that you know her for barely a while and you already want to give her money, imagine if you knew her for a few years.

Since she wants to be "independent", then the least you could do is to help her get a good paying part time job since she is also studying(which i believe to be not true). If she study during the day,and in the night she works in ktv then go to stand at street at gl.Then where will she get enough rest for school?First few times ok but gradually it will take a toll on her. Rmb why she even came to SINGAPORE in the first place. Most of the china students who really came to study are pretty well-off in their hometown and they have no need to do such a thing here. Pls rmb
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Re: Is there true love?

Bro TS, your relationship probably has not ripen yet for you to see its true form. Whether the true form is based on money, or on feelings, it doesn't matter much to you now. I think many bros has jumped ahead to tell you what its like and how to approach this relationship of yours, but until then, maybe you would not believe how useful they are.

Relationship like this is hard to say, there are many indications that it is based on feelings. Right now the only objective thing to it is, she is WL, she is willing to sell her body and she has the mindset to continue this way of approaching her life. Easy money, value of riches is higher than her own body. For someone of this mindset, you have to shift your perception a bit if you began to talk love and feelings to her, cos you dun know how she thinks about you and your 'love'. Many bros got stuck in this definition until it breaks them apart...ah but that's later. You cant see it now, becos of this reason -

You are both living in dreamland.

Savour it, enjoy it but remember to wake up. Wake up to the reality of ever marrying her or breaking up with her. That's when you come to terms of having a WL gf, someone whom everyone can have a hand at her body after paying up, someone who accept tips for her 'good services' and the same person who if you have not bought her up, someone else who is a lot more well-to-do would have surely swept her off her pretty feet faster than you can.

Ah...but that can't be real right? She is your angel just becos she doesn't want money. And she has given you more than what you've given her. This is in the pretext that she has money. If she dun, you support her? It is only right to support her isn't it? If you can't, she walks the street or she eats your bread?

Your money is from your parents, dude. It is for you to be a good son who is making them proud, studying for a bright future. Think about what you have in mind now. Is it fair to them? Likewise if she walks the street again becos you cannot provide for her, is it fair to stop her? Or is it fair for you to agonise over her plight, no doubt caused by her choice.

Your relationship hasn't ripen yet. It may not be time for actions. But it certainly is the time for questions.
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Re: Is there true love?

Sigh. Yet another victim of the PRC KC. Welcome to the club.

To be fair to you and your girl, there is not enough information in your posts about her for any of us to draw any form of conclusion what is her ultimate objective. Who knows whether there might be a genuine love story going on here apart from yourself and her.

You say that you are not loaded and you think that money is not her objective. Apart from money, there can be other objectives as well which is not love. While I do believe in the existence of love at first sight, the probability of BOTH parties falling in love with each other at first sight is quite low. I am not saying that it did not happen in your case but if it did, you are probably one out of a few million.

Find out more about her background first before you jump into a relationship with her. Usually there is more to it than meets the eye.

I am in no position to offer any real or substantive views about your relationship. The best advice I can offer is to read closely the views set out by some of the senior bros here like DYBJ or Colin. Believe me, if you read their views carefully and think it through, you will find that you see things a bit better. I am a beneficiary of their words of wisdom for which I am eternally grateful.

Good luck bro. Hopefully you do not become another statistic.
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Re: Is there true love?

bro TS, I have a slightly different opinion and advice for you.
Based on your story, you are probably a cheongster also since you purposely went to find WL in Geylang. I also suppose that she's not your first love. You probably had some other gf before. So, why don't you just treat her like any other girlfriend, don't think about the money part.
What I'm trying to say is that if you were dating a local gal, would you think of giving her money? I don't think so, so why should you think of giving your PRC gal any money. Just behave and act as if she's a local gf. Go for movies, have fun dating, have fun fucking and so on.

The day may probably come when she asks you to help her out financially. That will be the signal for you to jump off the bandwagon. Since you mentioned that you have been with other WL before, I am sure you will be able to detect these signals and escape from the KC trap.

What I am curious is how come she could stay over at your place?
Your parents did not comment anything?
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Re: Is there true love?

Uncle here to KPO.

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Later she revealed to me that I was the first customer ever. I was thinking back then, the truth in that statement was less than 1%.
Started with a white lie.

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as she told me more about her life and that she came only 10 days and worked in KTV initially.

She came as a student, on a 3 year pass.
Your story a bit confusing, maybe uncle dun understand u. She here for 3 yrs or 10 days?


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It started out with just the fantasy of going out with a pretty young girl, but i could no longer suppress my emotions.

I'm a student as well

we're like a normal teenage couple.
I blur again, how old r u and how young is she? I will be in fantasy if I go out with young gers cos I'm 60 plus yrs old.


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She didnt go to work, i know cos she stays over in my house. she calls me daily to tell me about her school life and stuff.
Nbzzz I'm getting old. She called u from your house?


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Every part of me tells me to carry on the relationship..
Nbzzzz I admit I'm getting old... since u make up your mind, y ask ppl? Just go ahead with it.


BTW, maybe uncle blur f, if a ger dun need money, why she sells her body to men??
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Re: Is there true love?

Later she revealed to me that I was the first customer ever.

BIG FAT LIE.

She came as a student, on a 3 year pass. and about my age as well. We exhanged numbers and it's how it began.

I think u mean u mean she's here on a 3yr student pass & been around 10 days?

I know it sounds crazy but she really convinced me that she likes me. For 20 plus times i've been seeing her, she never demanded a cent from me. we're like a normal teenage couple.

They also need love & tender care

She didnt go to work, i know cos she stays over in my house.

How did you explain to your parents?

Every part of me tells me to carry on the relationship.. I've been caught in similar situation with a WL before, certainly, it feels different this time

Looks like you're not a very green student. Well, since she's free for the moment, enjoy the peace & love but the moment some grand mother's tales come out of the closet. Don't say we didn't warn you. She's here to study or earn $? If you've met her @ Lor 8 (worst area IMO) she's definitely not a simple student but a FL. She'll need to feed herself & repay her loan etc. Are you going to help her, can you help her? Do you know what she really does @ home? Good luck & enjoy.
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I'm here to share about my situation, and perhaps some advice would do fantastic for me right now.
You can still continue to see her but can you accept that she works in a KTV? I am sure you know inside that place many things can happen. Can you sleep peacefully everynight while she is at work?
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Re: Is there true love?

To the TS,

Whatever you heard from the WLs you must take 50% discount off.
Whatever they give you free now you will pay at least 10 times more in return.

Remember their main intention of staying here... for $$$ - full stop.
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