What I've told to WLs who just started in this trade

[ramon]

I'm actually quite hesitant to write this, but after reading the difficult moments some of the bros here are going through, I thought I should provide a little insight on my relationships with WLs.

Quite often I will be introduced to pretty WLs who are quite new to KC trapping, and by word of mouth I would end up giving my 2 cents worth on how to maximise their time and increase their potential earnings working here.

Rule 1: Never fall in love with a Singapore man, you are here to make money, got money can take time to look for love.

Rule 2: Start your work in a high class ktv, doesn't matter if there are prettier girls than you because there will be others who will be prettier than them. Anyways all men have different taste mah.

Rule 3: Must develop a sophisticated style in dressing and looks that suits you and develop a character that is interesting and intriguing. You will be the trophy that men want to show off to their friends and you'll get more branded gifts because they befits you.

Rule 4: Remember the 2:1. which means try to have 2 rich married men and 1 average single man. The 2 rich ones are here to buy you gifts and cash. Do not buy bags, shoes etc....they are worthless, even if they want to buy, tell them you will not appreciate them much but hint instead to buy you watches like rolex, tell them it's your dream to own a range of them. If you can get two of them to buy you a rolex, make sure the two of them is the same model and from different shops, so that you can sell one away and they would think that you are wearing the watches they bought for you.
As for the average Joe, he's here to do your bidding, what he can't provide in expensive stuff he can run errands for you, buy you groceries, do your laundry etc... he's more than willing....

Rule 5: Remember where these men like to shop and eat. Avoid going to places where you may bump into someone you know.

Rule 6: Take note of their habits, they'll always have a pattern unless they get suspicious of you.

Rule 7: If you need to introduce your friends or "sisters" to them, there should be two sets, one set to eat and enjoy in a group while the other is for "alibis" The men will ask how come they haven't been intro to these friends before, your excuse is they are quite busy with their "boyfriends" too.

Rule 8: Never go out too often with them, because you may need to change them at any time, so go to work and meet more men.

Rule 9: Behave like an equal when you are out with them and their friends, read the local papers and about China as well because most of these towkays got businesses there. Don't cling to him only but socialise with his friends, he'll sure get very good positive feedback and he'll be very proud of himself.

Rule 10 : Go on the pill or some contraceptives because it will come a time when you have to do raw (without condoms) This is essential because it's like a stamp that says you are now truly belong to him.

Rule 11: Learn to make love, enjoy making love and not just spreading your legs and scream because these old birds know what is real and fake.

Actually I could still go but there's just too much to describe and of course some have been mentioned in the threads. Sometimes when we have lunch we laugh over what went wrong and how they get out of tight situations but usually the hilarious ones will be how the men fuck, I mean some men grunt, some whimper and some will scream their heads off, all these mimicked by the WLs.

I apologise if this is taken as an insult to singapore men, I'll probably get scolded or flamed but the world is such, you get to eat something and something might eat you up instead

[aces68]

bro ramon, interesting thread. I think many bros will have comments.

I don't think anyone will flame you if you can also share some tips on the opposite, i.e. how to KC these WLs..hehe

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by ramon

I'm actually quite hesitant to write this, but after reading the difficult moments some of the bros here are going through, I thought I should provide a little insight on my relationships with WLs.

Quite often I will be introduced to pretty WLs who are quite new to KC trapping, and by word of mouth I would end up giving my 2 cents worth on how to maximise their time and increase their potential earnings working here.

I apologise if this is taken as an insult to singapore men, I'll probably get scolded or flamed but the world is such, you get to eat something and something might eat you up instead

Bro... u teaching these gals how to KC $$ from bros huh...

Not sure any bros want to contribute, but I wun do that.\

I never teach them these kinda things but I dun stop them if they want to... not good to teach people things that will get "BAD" Karma

[colins]

haha now thats some new insight to what they already know. Some of those rules are really good ones which will checkmate many bros here.

I'm curious bro ramon, what do you intend to get from them, for providing such advice?

[aces68]

Originally Posted by colins

I'm curious bro ramon, what do you intend to get from them, for providing such advice?

good question..got commission or not, bro TS ?

[ramon]

Originally Posted by colins

haha now thats some new insight to what they already know. Some of those rules are really good ones which will checkmate many bros here.

I'm curious bro ramon, what do you intend to get from them, for providing such advice?

No, I never had anything that I want from them because I make it a rule that I pay for every sexual encounter and I do not accept freebies. I treat them like any person making a living and in this instance it's just a flesh trade and a very old profession.

Whether it's a bro who wants to KC the girl or vice versa I still would give my 2 cents worth, to me they are all friends.

[ramon]

Originally Posted by aces68

good question..got commission or not, bro TS ?

ha..ha..on the contrary I paid my school fees before, close to $100k on one China WL...but that was many years ago

[aces68]

Originally Posted by ramon

Whether it's a bro who wants to KC the girl or vice versa I still would give my 2 cents worth, to me they are all friends.

what's your tips for a bro to KC the girl ?

[ekemono]

Originally Posted by aces68

what's your tips for a bro to KC the girl ?

camping here...

[colins]

Originally Posted by ramon

No, I never had anything that I want from them because I make it a rule that I pay for every sexual encounter and I do not accept freebies. I treat them like any person making a living and in this instance it's just a flesh trade and a very old profession.

Whether it's a bro who wants to KC the girl or vice versa I still would give my 2 cents worth, to me they are all friends.

Bro ramon, I did not mean monetary favours. A man bringing such advice against his fellow men cannot be wanting just money. Esp Rule 4.

I believe a person who is simply seeking (real) favours from WL will never develop such thinking and motivation to teach the girls on how to KC. They will most likely look for cheap bonks or to share her contacts.

Nothing personal, man. Really hope to see your counter moves against those rule that you've written.

[ekemono]

Perhaps bro ramon had given these advice to only a particular group of ladies that are his good friends, and with thier interest at heart. Maybe due to some ladies that caught in situation and his advice came in handy.

However, if he had made a consistent effort to the point of making it a habit to brief every WL that he was intro to, then I will be confuse by it.

Lets hear it from bro ramon

[goodfun]

u cant teach them for the rest of ur life,when u try,u will burn...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by ekemono

Perhaps bro ramon had given these advice to only a particular group of ladies that are his good friends, and with thier interest at heart. Maybe due to some ladies that caught in situation and his advice came in handy.

However, if he had made a consistent effort to the point of making it a habit to brief every WL that he was intro to, then I will be confuse by it.

Lets hear it from bro ramon

There's always 2 schools of tots here.
One who think he did good by not cheating the WLs like wat bro aczeta always say
The other is like our Ramon, who teaches WLs how to fulfil their objective for coming here

Counter...actually, there's only 1 sure effective way.......GO IN WITHOUT A HEART BUT LOOK AND ACT LIKE ROMEO! Tested, proven confirm stamp chop effective and let the KC trap roll baby

[ramon]

Originally Posted by aces68

what's your tips for a bro to KC the girl ?

I've always asked the bros this question : Why on earth do you want to KC with a WL when you know she is here to make money? Reasons aplenty, I'm sure every bro got something to say about this.

So let's take a look at this scenario: Imagine this guy in his 30s or 40s, doing pretty well in his career or business, he is either divorced, single or married with some marital problems or his wife doesn't bother at all, drawing at least $15k a month if he is an employee and more if he is an employer, he goes to a ktv, choose a girl he likes, he tells her that he is here to entertain guests and he would prefer to be at home.

The girl of course ask him loads of questions and he projects himself to be a pretty decent guy, he loves reading, cooking, going on holidays and spas (girls will always like men to be domesticated...) and he ask about the girl's family, give some opinion and views on how the girl should fend for herself when she meet men who are like octopus etc...then tells the girl to butterfly a bit and leave you alone so that she can make more tips even if you booked her for the night (she will not think he is stupid, but thinks that he is trying to tell her nicely that she's not good enough for him)

Before the night ends he tells her that he enjoyed her company and would like to have supper with her, but not closing time as it will be too late and see if she can round up a few of her friends to eat so that there will be more variety to eat. (to get to know a few more girls)

With her friends around he becomes the most ideal boyfriend a woman must have. He doesn't behave like the customer but someone who is caring to all her friends and of course treat her like the queen bee. (if she's not impressed it doesn't mean some of her friends won't be)

He offer to send her home first and then the rest of her friends because she should have more rest mah. (in the car there will be one or two of her friends who will be interested in talking with him)

Obviously numbers would have been exchanged and after he reaches home he just send an sms that he enjoyed the supper and hoped that he gets to meet her soon.

Next week he goes again but only called her when he has been there for quite some time. (he gets to know other girls first) Of course she will ask why he didn't call her earlier but you said let her butterfly first mah. Then she probably will be quite busy, so he ask for her friends that they had supper with to sit with him and he repeat his process with her friends to make sure the stories are consistent.

He's very alert and sharp. She'll probably had asked him to go jalan jalan in the late afternoon but he will give the excuse that he's always working late, but he will go and buy a gift for her. Something that she needs like a branded coin purse and the reason is whatever she wants to show off she would have got someone to buy for her but this is something that she needs.

Sooner or later they'll fuck, so he brings her to a nice resort to screw her on Friday night, room service, spa treatment and shopping for a little dog that she likes, Sunday is spent bringing the puppy for walks in one of the parks. (dogs are like kids, they can help to bond a relationship)and followed by dinner with her friends to show off the puppy.

Why do I mentioned her friends? Sometimes her friends can tell him about his target but also to monitor how much her friends are interested in him, because there's nothing wrong in jumping ship, the most let the girls have a cat fight over you.

On the other hand, if you are a poorly wage employee and want to KC with WLs, my advice is you go to work in a KTV as a supervisor or manager, then you can have opportunities to sayang them when they are vulnerable and shower your concerns.

This is like business, you study your client, you can impress but you lack substance so you need to lobby for support and be consistent in your actions and messages. You are different, you are serious, you have humour but not pushy. Your message to your client is: I'm selling the same apple at the same price, same quality as what other people are selling, so you are buying from me is because you like me. You feel good buying from me, and I give you little pleasant memories when we meet.

I'm not saying I'm the expert and I will not admit or deny that I've used this route, anyways not all bros will be comfortable to do this like what I've written.

Aiyah...I regretted writing this thread, end up now I'm writing more than before, but I can still contribute, if time permits.

[Monkey4]

Originally Posted by ramon

I'm actually quite hesitant to write this, but after reading the difficult moments some of the bros here are going through, I thought I should provide a little insight on my relationships with WLs.

I apologise if this is taken as an insult to singapore men, I'll probably get scolded or flamed but the world is such, you get to eat something and something might eat you up instead

bro ramon, I am not here to judge but only got 1 comment.... I understand that some FLs are aware of SBF and as such...maybe your first posting on this thread should be translated in mandarin so that all the gals reading this can understand instead of taking our precious time during bonking session to explain point by point to them...



agreed with bro colins.... maybe u can give us some pointers on our possible counter moves against those u earlier mentioned.