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Old 19-01-2009, 08:22 PM
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A PRC MMs Ask me to .....

As usual,

I am starting this thread to share abit and also to seek some Advice not advise hor .... haha.

I got to know this PRC MM ... sometime back, we have the chemistry there and also good time, But I was hesitate about the Qns that she prop up to me and asked .... 爱人, 你可以养我吗 ?

Coz to me she is more like a FB.... than seriously I move on to the next level with her. Mostly of my time are busy with works schedule and entertainment with clients and the exclusive Sunday for family.

I do admit some KC there. Shall I move on with her to "大包" or just move forward ..... ?

If move on with her .... I had yet to talk terms & Condition yet.
If move forward ..... surely roses all better than a single tulips.

I had been dangling this Qns for about 1 weeks ..... which is why I think I shall post it upz for some noises to make a better decision.

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As long as you can afford it & you CAN CONFIRM she'll only be wif you...i.e personal toilet...then ok
If not, dun fall into the carrot head category.
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Re: A PRC MMs Ask me to .....

Hi Bro,

May be economy bad, she is looking for easy way out.

As you said yourself and quoted, the $$$ you spend will have many roses with you, may be even more prettier and more KC-er, than just a tulip.

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.... 爱人, 你可以养我吗 ?


If move forward ..... surely roses all better than a single tulips.
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Hey bro, since u said that she is already a FB to u, then y spent the money to bao her?? Its like throwing $$ into the sea.. If i were u, i would rather spent the $$ on someone else.. Just my $0.02
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Different strokes for different folks.

Some people like variety, preferring to take a different girl each time they cheong. Others prefer to stick to one whom they have developed a fondness for. Usually with more rtf, there is a higher gfe ratio.

If you want to maintain her and pay her shitloads of money, as bro DYBJ said, better make sure that she is your private latrine. Otherwise why spend that kind of money? And frankly, unless you are able to monitor her movements 24/7, how can you ensure that she remains your private latrine?

I know a guy who was so in love with a WL that he actually wanted to marry her. She ostensibly quit her job as a WL and stayed at home after class (she being here on a student pass). The guy works in the day and rushes home in the evening to be with his girl. Little does he know that when he is in the office, she is still in contact with a few of her ex-customers and continues to conduct her business at the nearby Hotel 81.

At home, she will tell her beau that she is broke, no money to buy stuff etc because she got no income, so he gives her an allowance. The money that she earns from her part time FL jobs are all stashed away somewhere else, probably remitted back home to China.

So unless you have a good network of intelligence sources, or is able to monitor her daily movements, it may be a waste of money to keep a private latrine, because the moment you are not around, chances are someone else is going to come pee in it.
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So unless you have a good network of intelligence sources, or is able to monitor her daily movements, it may be a waste of money to keep a private latrine, because the moment you are not around, chances are someone else is going to come pee in it.
use 3G video phone chat to spot check?
at hom install remote cctv monitoring?
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use 3G video phone chat to spot check?
at hom install remote cctv monitoring?
Yes, u r rite.
The best is to use 3G chat.
CCTV not very likely unless she moves into your other place cos most of them lives in rented places and is shared........
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I got to know this PRC MM ... sometime back, we have the chemistry there and also good time, But I was hesitate about the Qns that she prop up to me and asked .... 爱人, 你可以养我吗 ?
Ah...bro, she showhand already. That means you must decide to commit or leave her to invest on other guys liao.

You see in KC stage, after the WL feels confident that she will succeed in getting your commitment OR when the WL decides that your face is giving her nightmares & enough is enough, she will throw this decision at your face. It literally means no more sweet honeymoon freebies giveaways discounts cheapbonks and its time her ROI starts. Of cos if you so decide on a monthly price, she will continue her act of being loyal to you and your dick only but heaven knows what's her real price is.

Problem is, if she have assessed you to be the 10k/month material and you promise (or forcefully oblige) only 2k/month, she will continue her i-luv-u with you but will find time to start her next KC target. You can never find out her 'real price' unfortunately and even if you somehow got that figure thru a temple medium, you may not be able to handle the truth (i.e. 100k/month).

Now bro lets talk about you. The reason you hesitated and post this shows something. Whatever that something is, your heart dun want to lose her now. First thing is, you haven't thrown in a lot of investment (therefore you not there waiting for your own ROI to realise) and second thing, you mentioned FB relationship (means she has been offering you at relatively discounted or near FOC rates). What this means? The KC deep deep on you liao and she used the FOC fuck tactic cum same chemistry common horoscope personalities characteristic hood on you. It is tough to throw it away with just one decision thats why you escape the confrontation until you cannot make it last one more bonk longer.

So what to do after saying so much? Well you already know, you have 2 choices. First, ask her to continue be your and only your mistress, map out your terms and condition (no more contact with other guys, sort of exclusive to you) and ask her to state a price. After you overcome the shock of hearing her asking price, ask her what else can she do for you. Take it all down and you now have to face reality thats its all about money. Second of cos, dun need to say too much, after asking her price (or not but up to your curiosity) tell her to sleep with another gross man and come back to you only (and only) if she wants to continue as a partner in your FB relationship. Most likely, she'll just tell you to sleep with the same gross chap and check it out yourself. Basically thats fuck off and you should do just that.

Of cos, if you are up to it, there is a third choice. Although I advise against it (cos somehow dun need a temple medium to tell me about your KC condition) but I'll still relate it anyway. Just promise her 10k/month (actual figure up to you to smoke) and bonk her till she pichak, by the end of the month or 1 hr before her payday, tell her it is over. Make sure you do not contact her anymore and change all your numbers and padlocks if she knows where you will be hiding out. For this to work you must think carefully and reach the state of mind of a chainsaw massacre murderer. Otherwise it can't work and you will pay the 10k/month till your own ass pichak. I'll not buy 4D this weekend and if I kenna first prize, I will write one post and encourage you to try out this choice.

Last advice is, do not lie to yourself. Whether this PRC MM of yours is WL or not (which you conveniently left out), she is out for money. You said FB, she thinks investment. Tell me during the time when you mentioned you were out busy at work, with clients or family, that you do not think about her at all and I will tell you if that is so, why are you still considering and hanging this simple decision for a week.

So come on man, put on that shiny white mask cos it is easier to wield a chainsaw with it. Take care
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Re: A PRC MMs Ask me to .....

If you like her, why not? How much is she asking? It depends if the amount is within your budget. If she's a WL, she's probably expecting a 4 digit figure. A few hundred dollars a month will probably not fill her apetite.

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If you like her, why not? How much is she asking? It depends if the amount is within your budget. If she's a WL, she's probably expecting a 4 digit figure. A few hundred dollars a month will probably not fill her apetite.

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Quoting a figure now may be low, so as to entice you into the relationship. But once she has you under her control, she will move her figure upwards..., and might even be sooner than expected.
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Different strokes for different folks.

Some people like variety, preferring to take a different girl each time they cheong. Others prefer to stick to one whom they have developed a fondness for. Usually with more rtf, there is a higher gfe ratio.

If you want to maintain her and pay her shitloads of money, as bro DYBJ said, better make sure that she is your private latrine. Otherwise why spend that kind of money? And frankly, unless you are able to monitor her movements 24/7, how can you ensure that she remains your private latrine?

I know a guy who was so in love with a WL that he actually wanted to marry her. She ostensibly quit her job as a WL and stayed at home after class (she being here on a student pass). The guy works in the day and rushes home in the evening to be with his girl. Little does he know that when he is in the office, she is still in contact with a few of her ex-customers and continues to conduct her business at the nearby Hotel 81.

At home, she will tell her beau that she is broke, no money to buy stuff etc because she got no income, so he gives her an allowance. The money that she earns from her part time FL jobs are all stashed away somewhere else, probably remitted back home to China.

So unless you have a good network of intelligence sources, or is able to monitor her daily movements, it may be a waste of money to keep a private latrine, because the moment you are not around, chances are someone else is going to come pee in it.
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Ah...bro, she showhand already. That means you must decide to commit or leave her to invest on other guys liao.

You see in KC stage, after the WL feels confident that she will succeed in getting your commitment OR when the WL decides that your face is giving her nightmares & enough is enough, she will throw this decision at your face. It literally means no more sweet honeymoon freebies giveaways discounts cheapbonks and its time her ROI starts. Of cos if you so decide on a monthly price, she will continue her act of being loyal to you and your dick only but heaven knows what's her real price is.

Problem is, if she have assessed you to be the 10k/month material and you promise (or forcefully oblige) only 2k/month, she will continue her i-luv-u with you but will find time to start her next KC target. You can never find out her 'real price' unfortunately and even if you somehow got that figure thru a temple medium, you may not be able to handle the truth (i.e. 100k/month).

Now bro lets talk about you. The reason you hesitated and post this shows something. Whatever that something is, your heart dun want to lose her now. First thing is, you haven't thrown in a lot of investment (therefore you not there waiting for your own ROI to realise) and second thing, you mentioned FB relationship (means she has been offering you at relatively discounted or near FOC rates). What this means? The KC deep deep on you liao and she used the FOC fuck tactic cum same chemistry common horoscope personalities characteristic hood on you. It is tough to throw it away with just one decision thats why you escape the confrontation until you cannot make it last one more bonk longer.

So what to do after saying so much? Well you already know, you have 2 choices. First, ask her to continue be your and only your mistress, map out your terms and condition (no more contact with other guys, sort of exclusive to you) and ask her to state a price. After you overcome the shock of hearing her asking price, ask her what else can she do for you. Take it all down and you now have to face reality thats its all about money. Second of cos, dun need to say too much, after asking her price (or not but up to your curiosity) tell her to sleep with another gross man and come back to you only (and only) if she wants to continue as a partner in your FB relationship. Most likely, she'll just tell you to sleep with the same gross chap and check it out yourself. Basically thats fuck off and you should do just that.

Of cos, if you are up to it, there is a third choice. Although I advise against it (cos somehow dun need a temple medium to tell me about your KC condition) but I'll still relate it anyway. Just promise her 10k/month (actual figure up to you to smoke) and bonk her till she pichak, by the end of the month or 1 hr before her payday, tell her it is over. Make sure you do not contact her anymore and change all your numbers and padlocks if she knows where you will be hiding out. For this to work you must think carefully and reach the state of mind of a chainsaw massacre murderer. Otherwise it can't work and you will pay the 10k/month till your own ass pichak. I'll not buy 4D this weekend and if I kenna first prize, I will write one post and encourage you to try out this choice.

Last advice is, do not lie to yourself. Whether this PRC MM of yours is WL or not (which you conveniently left out), she is out for money. You said FB, she thinks investment. Tell me during the time when you mentioned you were out busy at work, with clients or family, that you do not think about her at all and I will tell you if that is so, why are you still considering and hanging this simple decision for a week.

So come on man, put on that shiny white mask cos it is easier to wield a chainsaw with it. Take care
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Different strokes for different folks.

Some people like variety, preferring to take a different girl each time they cheong. Others prefer to stick to one whom they have developed a fondness for. Usually with more rtf, there is a higher gfe ratio.

If you want to maintain her and pay her shitloads of money, as bro DYBJ said, better make sure that she is your private latrine. Otherwise why spend that kind of money? And frankly, unless you are able to monitor her movements 24/7, how can you ensure that she remains your private latrine?

I know a guy who was so in love with a WL that he actually wanted to marry her. She ostensibly quit her job as a WL and stayed at home after class (she being here on a student pass). The guy works in the day and rushes home in the evening to be with his girl. Little does he know that when he is in the office, she is still in contact with a few of her ex-customers and continues to conduct her business at the nearby Hotel 81.

At home, she will tell her beau that she is broke, no money to buy stuff etc because she got no income, so he gives her an allowance. The money that she earns from her part time FL jobs are all stashed away somewhere else, probably remitted back home to China.

So unless you have a good network of intelligence sources, or is able to monitor her daily movements, it may be a waste of money to keep a private latrine, because the moment you are not around, chances are someone else is going to come pee in it.

Some idiot zapped me for this post and did not leave a name. The idiot claimed that by my post, I am encouraging others to keep a private toilet. Now that really pisses me off. Which part of my post can it be construed as me encouraging others to keep a private toilet? To the idiot who zapped me, please read carefully. I am saying in my post don't waste your money keeping a private toilet.

Sheesh. Some people ought to go back to school for English remedial lessons.
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Bro,

My opinion on this: We are human beings with feelings and after a while in a FB relationship, it is normal that both of you want a exclusive deal.

For the girl, no WL wants to think of herself as a pros, no matter how much the reality is "right there in your face". She wants you to take care of her so that she can feel like it is a relationship, be it gf or mistress. It is also more reassuring for her to have a steady income, rather than have to fight for it daily, like a salesman on commission only scheme but my belief is that it is not 100% about the money.

For you, there is bound to be some attachment after a few bonks. I know from experience that it is rather enticing and I also know that no man is 100% comfortable thinking about another man sharing your girl.

Since she started the conversation, ask her to spill out the bottom line... how much does she want? You should be able to assess if she wants just enough to live (plus cover her costs to travel here) or if she wants you as a carrot head. As for whether she will continue to see other men, only you can assess that part about her because every girl is different.
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Bro,

My opinion on this: We are human beings with feelings and after a while in a FB relationship, it is normal that both of you want a exclusive deal.

For the girl, no WL wants to think of herself as a pros, no matter how much the reality is "right there in your face". She wants you to take care of her so that she can feel like it is a relationship, be it gf or mistress. It is also more reassuring for her to have a steady income, rather than have to fight for it daily, like a salesman on commission only scheme but my belief is that it is not 100% about the money.

For you, there is bound to be some attachment after a few bonks. I know from experience that it is rather enticing and I also know that no man is 100% comfortable thinking about another man sharing your girl.

Since she started the conversation, ask her to spill out the bottom line... how much does she want? You should be able to assess if she wants just enough to live (plus cover her costs to travel here) or if she wants you as a carrot head. As for whether she will continue to see other men, only you can assess that part about her because every girl is different.

Once the indecent proposal is made, it becomes a commercial transaction. Pure and simple. Nothing more.

They are here to earn money, not to find true love. Although I do believe that the WL may possibly like a particular guy, the main motivation for coming here is still money.

Wanting enough just to live plus covering her cost? That is quite unlikely. Why allow their bodies to be used without any return at all? It is still a business for them. If doing what they are doing and only making subsistence level returns, why bother staying here in Singapore? They can probably get subsistence level employment and income back where they came from, and without having to sleep with different men all the time.

To ask to be a kept woman, the WL would probably have some liking for the potential sponsor, or at least, does not find him disgusting. However, I think the proposal to be a kept woman is still all about money. If the price is not right, the deal cannot be concluded. Assuming that by being a kept woman, the WL's income is reduced by 50%. True she may not need to sleep with a few different men each day. My next question is what is she going to do with her free time? To sit around all day doing fuck all and having her income reduced by 50% is not very likely to happen.

They all know that they have a short shelf-life. Even they feel that they are aged and no longer productive once they hit 25 - 26 years old. To have already taken the step to becoming a WL, the bottomline is always about money.
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Re: A PRC MMs Ask me to .....

in the end, it's all about the $$$.

u pay her enough, she may.... may only be yours so long as u keep on paying her.

u don't pay her enough, well you don't know what she doing behind your back.
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