Fuck you SammyBoy

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by boblee1963

So if I write like a OKT, I am confirmed a OKT??? SB was saying he will check and offer a different charges, where got????

To one Bro, Yes, I have started a FREE to post forum. NO OKT allow. Bcos the forum is free, I dun charge anyone a single cent, some said no free lunch. Yes, some FLs did offer free service and meal. Is that mean I must take them???

All Bros, thanks for giving your view here. This problem is here and going to stay.

Bro,

Nobody says that. And for the record, almost everyone here says or feels that you are NOT and OKT.

But the matter is quite simple. If there is an OKT who did not pay advertising fees, the threads will be deleted. If there are threads which direct samsters here to another website promoting FLs, the threads will be deleted.

It doesn't matter whether the other websites charges the FLs or not, the boss or mods here are not bothered to check it out. As long as they feel that it is a conflict of interest, it will be deleted.

I agree with you the problem is here and going to stay, we just got to live with it if we want to come to this forum.

Cheers
Tee Vee

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by miniboy

To: SB(host)

There are a numbers of OKT thread in freelance forum and it is pretty obvious they are OKT, will you be removing them ?

lee li

The question here is "Do you know which of the threads have paid and which haven't?" Bearing in mind that OKT does not necessary have a website.

Next you may ask to know which threads paid. For that, the boss or mods does not need to tell us that as that will be their business. Moreover, we don't need to know. We only need to have more FL contacts in the forum for our enjoyment.

Cheers
Tee Vee

[Big Sexy]

yeap mate..
of course there are , but not many....
that was why i said 'hardly'.
but i just think he deserves more..

and i also think people should learn to be more grateful
and to appreciate things more..
thus i have started a appreciation thread for him.
see if you would like to contribute your thoughts there too..
but only positive one please...

http://thesbf.shop/adult-d...-note-sam.html

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

Actually have lah. I do see newbies coming in and say thanks for the forum in the newbie section.

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by MLTR

Sometimes i really wonder how the Mod decides to charge who for the sponsorship > OKT and/or those TS who are earning money and/or receive free service from FLs by helping them to post and distribute contact number???

That will be the perrogative of the Boss. He may like an OKT so much that he may not want to charge him and nobody can say or do anything about it. It's his house. How much rent he wants, or if he wants to give a room for free, it's entirely up to him.

I gt to know from one FL in the past that she paid the TS $80 per month plus free bonks to advertise her service online and give out her contact and likewise for the other FLs who depended on this TS. If this is the case, then the TS is making around $400-$500 a mth from these FLs plus free bonks. Like that izzit fair to ask the TS to pay for the sponsorship?

The TS in this case is an OKT. So if the Boss wants to charge him, then maybe the TS should re-do his sums, forgo the free bonks and do his business profitably.

Another FL i really pity her becos the TS actually asked her to pay for the $660 sponsorship which i think is really unfair to her. She reluctantly paid for it for more than 6 mths and luckily she decided to stop asking for help from the TS as her regular customer volunteered to liase with the MOD and managed to advertise FOC instead.

Look at it this way. If not for the TS, will the FL know about the forum? Will the FL be able to get a pool of regulars? That means the FL has made money because of the TS. So how come "pity the FL" because of $10 per day?

By the way, this is also the risk OKTs take. FLs will become smart and one day cut them off and go on their own. So of course they will try to reap what they can before that happens.

Shld the TS fight for his FL to post FOC since he is getting nothing in return from the FL instead of just obediently pay up when requested by the MOD?

This one is a bit "chim". HIS FL? The TS "own" the FL but is not the OKT?

If it is just helping as what many TS claimed, then why would a TS FIGHT for the FL?

If I'm helping an FL, I will start a thread. If the Boss or Mod were to ask cme to pay, I'll let the FL know. If the FL is willing to pay, I'll continue. If the FL is not, then that's the end of it.

Why the hell will I be bothered about it and insist to promote the FL biz, and "fight" for her? Unless I have some "hidden" benefits. Right?

Cheers
Tee Vee

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by KinJioKar

In a netural standpoint, the forum administrators should have made known that the requirement to make payment towards the posting of such advertismement threads and its consequential actions within the official ToS to encourage fair play. It is then up to the thread starter to accept and comply with this

Likewise, TS could use this as a platform to highlight the high handed behaviour but should refrain from hurling vulgarities as it might garner unwanted attention from the authoritiies. Psychologically, it is easy for the law enforcers to use such platform to penetrate what used to be a calm and peaceful cheonging scene

Whenever the Boss or Mod sees a thread which they feel should pay advertising fees, they will PM and liaise with the TS directly. How much, the conditions, etc does not affect the other samsters here.

If the TS don't agree, thread will be deleted.

No need to explain this or that as I don't think the Boss or Mods will be bothered to do any investigations, etc.

I think this has always been the case and I don't think it's considered "high handed behaviour".

This may sound stupid but what is your benchmark for demarcating the true blue OKT from the genuine brother who want to share?

I don't think there's a "bench mark" per se. I think it's based on feedbacks from fellow samsters and also their gut feelings. Right or wrong, it's their perogative.

Cheers
Tee Vee

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by Arilus

Jus wanna share...most of us, or rather all human beings, tends to see things on the surface..they do not noe what is really going on in the background or how things are done. This forum have been surviving all this years..and im sure it is because of good management and maintenance that it have lasted this long...and im sure Sammyboy have spent countless amt of money, sweat and blood to get this forum where it is today.....

Countless amount of money? Sweat? Blood?

Bro, I think that is a little too much exaggeration lah. LOL!

Cheers
Tee Vee

[Big Sexy]

so people what do you think of these 2 posts here
okt, not okt??
easy to identify?
hahah.. not everything is black or white..


http://thesbf.shop/adult-d...available.html

http://thesbf.shop/welcome...ping-hand.html

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by Big Sexy

so people what do you think of these 2 posts here
okt, not okt??
easy to identify?
hahah.. not everything is black or white..


http://thesbf.shop/adult-d...available.html

http://thesbf.shop/welcome...ping-hand.html

Personally, I think that if anyone tries to give as little details as possible so as lie low, is a very probable OKT.

My 2 baht worth.
Tee Vee

[nirvana123]

Yeah Sam, I understand what you are trying to say. I think the ideal situation here is that Sam would not even want to collect money from anyone at all but for those who have followed this forum over the years would realised how much it has changed and improved and with so many commercial sex providers coming in, there is not much choices anymore.

As for the suggestion to charge members, I do not think that would be Sam's idea for this forum. I would still think that getting advertisers and charging OKTs and FLs are the way to go so as also to remind these people not to take this forum for granted when they need to pay. As of now, by paying, we are already getting a clutter of information, if OKTs no need to pay, I can almost see this forum becoming a sea of spam.

And anyway, being mostly Singaporeans here, I believe even if u charge $5 for annual membership fee, sure people complain one

[naturegreen]

Originally Posted by ChowYunFat

If $39000 is the annual hosting cost then it is not too much to ask a $5 sign up fee for members. $10 fee to non OKT who post a new FL thread and who in turn can then collect $1 fee for each ctc they give out.............

If SBF starts charging any form of charges for membership, I am not sure but maybe people will start quitting, I will be the first 1 for sure, my buddy will be 2nd. Afterall we dun earn money here, just to come read and post for leisure unlike OKTs who earn money. So as for me, as long as it is still free, I will still come and share contacts of girls (FOC) that is, we are not OKTs if you did read up on my past threads. So I wouldn't agree with your suggestion bro.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by nirvana123

As for the suggestion to charge members, I do not think that would be Sam's idea for this forum.

Some forums have a two tier membership structure... a free option for everybody and a premium account with extra privileges for those willing to pay.

I have also had numerous proposals to SELL reputation points.

I decided not to go down this route as it would simply give me more work and make management of the forum a lot more complicated.

In addition, payment for membership to a forum of this genre would probably put a lot of people off as they would feel that it compromises their privacy. Most would probably not want records of payments to sites such as this one. It would probably end up increasing the divorce statistics.

[naturegreen]

Originally Posted by ChowYunFat

I am sure 90% of current members who know the benefit from this website would pay.........

Erm... I am still pretty new to this forum even though I knew it existed years ago when friends introduced it to me back in 2001. But it does not mean I never bonk for the past 8 over years. In fact, most of the girls I bonked do not come from this forum. Yes Kudos to Sammy, this I agree. He has put in much hard work and efforts in keeping this forum ongoing for the past 8-9 years? Greatly shows his selflessness and thumbs up for that. But I do not think he is making a loss throughout these years right?

Another words, if there is no car forum, it does not mean I have no other ways to source for a car. Maybe you have been lucky getting lots of supplies of girls from here. But my point: I still feel Sammy should not start charging for normal membership for users to come chat or voice out their thoughts. But ChowYunFat, if you should feel a little rich and wanna contribute to help Sammy, I do not think he will mind, right? Action speaks louder than words.

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Some forums have a two tier membership structure... a free option for everybody and a premium account with extra privileges for those willing to pay.

I have also had numerous proposals to SELL reputation points.

I decided not to go down this route as it would simply give me more work and make management of the forum a lot more complicated.

And I totally do not agree with TS that Sammy is just business-minded, just want to earn money. Sustaining the forum is a better word rather than making money out of it. If Sammy really wanna make money out of it, I bet he could have sold it to some rich man long ago. Who wouldn't wanna own this forum? If I am a rich man, I sure would want to.

And also he did not want to sell reputation points for money, why? This would defeat the purpose of gaining reputation points through sharing and having a good reputation, though many senior members here might be guilty of exchanging rps with one another, even though they may not really have a good reputation. But who cares? I know of 1 guy in real life who has bad reputation out there who use underhand methods in getting girls such as drugging and forcing on the girl but he is somehow senior in SBF. But so what? His points still keeps soaring and going. So RP dun really mean much nowadays, just to keep afloat above 35 is enough.

PS: Btw Sammyboy, I am pretty curious whether has any rich man offered to buy over your forum before? And maximum bid? Can disclose? And if one day, you wanna sell, how much would that be? If I strike TOTO, I might consider it. But I am afraid the TOTO prize may not even be able to buy over 1 portion of this forum.

[naturegreen]

Ok to chill things out, sharing 1 funny clip here with everyone.

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by naturegreen

PS: Btw Sammyboy, I am pretty curious whether has any rich man offered to buy over your forum before? And maximum bid? Can disclose? And if one day, you wanna sell, how much would that be? If I strike TOTO, I might consider it. But I am afraid the TOTO prize may not even be able to buy over 1 portion of this forum.

Few years back, a few of my friends wanted to buy over the site so I had some exchange of PMs to Sam. At that time, USD $150K was not even considered. Don't talk about it now. Infact, I understand there were other bros and other offers too.

And do bear in mind, those days there weren't even advertisers from OKTs.

The potential of this website is great. Has Sam agreed to sell us then at that price, we'll be sitting down shaking legs now. so Sam's fully aware of the potential and he's definitely not stupid.

I think only an offer that will allow him to retire comfortbly (and I mean really comfortably) will be considered.

Cheers
Tee Vee

[ineedsex]

I think is a money world now, no money no talk and also if you got the money you got the power.

Got money, do bad thing can get you scott-free.Good people lose out.

Money have blind this world.