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[Pleasure_empire]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Give me a fucking break. No wonder the whole forum is pissed off with your nonsense as your opinionated verbal diarrhea seems to have no limits.

Perhaps I should hand the site over to you for some spring cleaning since you're mister know all in just about every department.

Good one boss.

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

This is WHORE SITE for gawd's sake. It was created for those who want a commercial fuck. It's either a site that caters to prostitution and sex or it isn't. There is no middle ground.

Are you suggesting that I take down the whole database and convert sammyboyforum.com to a site catering for lovers of disneyland and fans of the Wiggles?

Give me a fucking break. No wonder the whole forum is pissed off with your nonsense as your opinionated verbal diarrhea seems to have no limits.

Perhaps I should the site over to you for some spring cleaning since you're mister know all in just about every department.

Sorry, there IS always a middle ground to cater to the whatever situation presented for any website, businesses and even political grouping.

You want real suggestions or just "a break?"
Surrounding yourself with nincompoop acolytes is not going to do much to solve your present problems.

SEAJ

[ol'coyote]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

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Give me a fucking break. No wonder the whole forum is pissed off with your nonsense as your opinionated verbal diarrhea seems to have no limits.
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hehehe...
you've voiced out wat many of us feel...
me no have time nor patience to engage in such exchanges...
jus gotta knoe when to stop and move on...

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Boss:
There's really hardly any need to resort to the above - not when I am genuinely just trying to help.

But if you find that the truths as I see it being too unpalatable, no problem for me to just sit back and watch the proceedings from the sides.

I think you know that I am just about as hard headed as you - but in my case, I really got nothing to lose while you've got previous 15 years hard slog to consider.

SEAJ

Help has always been appreciated by me. However, you're doing nothing to help with your responses which are neither helpful nor accurate.

You cite the same sex marriage laws in the USA. In that case the judges have made a ruling and proclaimed the change to cover all US States. Everyone is informed and same sex marriages can now take place without fear of breaking any law. The decision is clear and precise.

If the Singapore Parliament made a statement that prostitution is now illegal as they did with remote on line gambling, I would know exactly what to do.

The prostitution laws in Singapore are currently convoluted and confusing. What exactly does "living off the earnings of a prostitute" mean?

If I wash her toilet every day for $100 a week, am I committing a crime if I know she is a prostitute and the $100 she hands to me weekly comes from the last customer the night before?

If I take photos of her for her passport and charge $5, is that an offense? If she then uses the same photo to upload to a sex site, does that make it a worse offense as it would mean that I am then directly involved in her whoring business. Please advise.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Boss:
There's really hardly any need to resort to the above - not when I am genuinely just trying to help.

OK here is a sincere, honest and straightforward question...

If I change the format of the whore adverts to this format which obviously has the blessing of the establishment, will that make this forum "legal"?

http://www.yellowpages.com.sg/search/all/escorts

No details... no field reports. Just a phone number. Will that be OK even though the whole world knows that nobody books an escort just to hold hands and whisper sweet nothings to each other.

Or can I go a step further and allow this format?

https://thesbf.shop/showthread.php?t=528078 with the disclaimer

Legal Disclaimer: All payments stated are for TIME only, any activities that occur behind closed doors are between 2 consenting adults and is not a paid activity whether implied or otherwise. If adult activities occur, it is of the escort's consent and no further payment is expected for such activities.

More explicit but still no details regarding actual sex acts.

Last question for now: If I pay my taxes in Singapore instead of in OZ as I currently do, will that help facilitate the legality of this site?

[Grounded Eagle]

Boss, I dun understand why can't you just banish him from this forum.
You are able to do that with just a click of your mouse and save thousands of members here from being irritated by this pest.

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Help has always been appreciated by me. However, you're doing nothing to help with your responses which are neither helpful nor accurate.

We're dealing with mixed messages, hints, pronouncements by some judge, biased reporters etc - there is no hard and fast accuracy. Just all subtle but quite firm signals.
And as for "helpful" I put it to you that "Yes Men" are not gonna be helpful either as they just reinforces your thinking whilst you're going down a wrong direction.

You cite the same sex marriage laws in the USA. In that case the judges have made a ruling and proclaimed the change to cover all US States. Everyone is informed and same sex marriages can now take place without fear of breaking any law.
If the Singapore Parliament made a statement that prostitution is now illegal as they did with remote on line gambling, I would know exactly what to do.

Perhaps not the best example and I've not adequately explained the point of my citing recent legislative changes in the US. Prior to the US Supreme Court making this ruling, controversial mixed messages from all sorts of quarters, State challenges, defiant illegal marriages etc had routinely occurred which led to this ruling. This was merely legislating the changed direction of the thinking of then existing marriage laws but it illustrates how thinking on even black and white laws do evolve - the same as the spirit of any law.

And in SBF's case, there is NOT even mixed messages and I don't see ANY support for it outside of these very pages. All I'm saying is that I think you're fighting against totally uneven and unbeatable forces. Singapore Public opinion is right now being swayed by I would think powerful figures who have their own agenda for doing so. IMHO, wisest to at least make a show of trying to comply with the spirit of the law AS IS SIGNALED NOW.

SEAJ

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by Grounded Eagle

Boss, I dun understand why can't you just banish him from this forum.
You are able to do that with just a click of your mouse and save thousands of members here from being irritated by this pest.

Because my guiding principle from day one is that everyone is entitled to say their piece regardless even if the majority disagree or are sickened by what we hear.

If I banned members just because I didn't agree with them, what would that make me?

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

IMHO, wisest to at least make a show of trying to comply with the spirit of the law AS IS SIGNALED NOW.

SEAJ

Great so when it comes to whore adverts, please advise ref https://thesbf.shop/showpo...&postcount=114

When you're finished with that let's move on to how I should control the posting of image/video links given that I have no control over hotlinked/embedded content. Should I just disable all html/vbcode so that embedding and hotlinking is no longer possible?

Also how do I identify underaged material? Visual judgement call?

Or should I just close down the whole place and call it a day? I can assure you that it has become more trouble than it is worth even before this latest salvo against the site was launched.

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

OK here is a sincere, honest and straightforward question...

If I change the format of the whore adverts to this format which obviously has the blessing of the establishment, will that make this forum "legal"?

Come on, that's an obvious question.
What I do suggest is as what i had stated in my previous posts.
The message that's loud and clear to me is about “young vulnerable people” and "depravity," and it's not gonna be too difficult to at least make a show of - or even actually complying to rid SBF of these totally fruitless distractions.

Last question for now: If I pay my taxes in Singapore instead of in OZ as I currently do, will that help facilitate the legality of this site?

No idea - but I'd rather think that the amount of tax revenue that the SGP government could collect would pale in comparison to the much bigger agenda I see that "someone" up there has against you.

SEAJ

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Great so when it comes to whore adverts, please advise ref https://thesbf.shop/showpo...&postcount=114

When you're finished with that let's move on to how I should control the posting of image/video links given that I have no control over hotlinked/embedded content. Should I just disable all html/vbcode so that embedding and hotlinking is no longer possible?

Also how do I identify underaged material? Visual judgement call?

Or should I just close down the whole place and call it a day? I can assure you that it has become more trouble than it is worth even before this latest salvo against the site was launched.

Make changes on items you can easily change first but at least show that you ARE trying your best to follow the changed spirit that they've signaled. Changes I've suggested are all just judgment calls on your part and easy to make into rules which you signal loud and clear by harshly enforcing - that should be enough for most of us to know what's OK or not.

As to pictures etc - my rudimentary IT knowledge can only suggest you host all pictures on your own server like many other websites. Yeah, some investment is probably gonna be needed but you can't just say - "Hey what can I do about it if they use outside sources to pollute SBF!"

I don't know if you or others here realizes, but IMHO SBF must be one of the most Wild and woolly sex websites around whilst originating from to me, a very strait-laced Singapore. As I see it, just about ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING is allowed on here; hardly any rules and even when there are specific proscriptions, there is hardly any enforcements.

Underaged material? First get rid of the under-aged members - and those acting like infants! And if you have a hard and fast rule against anything, I think you can rest assured that the general members will cooperate. Perhaps even offer Rep Points bounty for anybody spotting transgressions? Carrot and stick.

SEAJ


PS - Pressing my point - you already have rules against trolling/spamming on threads/subjects not of concern to these trolls. Look at what 88088 is doing with total impunity even when the subject matter is so serious.

[Tempura]

Boss if you are so affected by the New Paper's reporter article negative view of your forum you might want to seek legal counsel advise . Just like what PM Najib is trying to do. Just my humble suggestion.

[Tempura]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Underaged material? First get rid of the under-aged members - and those acting like infants! And if you have a hard and fast rule against anything, I think you can rest assured that the general members will cooperate. Perhaps even offer Rep Points bounty for anybody spotting transgressions?

SEAJ

My goodness can you please advise how do you identify what is underage material on line? And who is underage ? As you probably well know everyone can fake their personal info online. Unless you implement an age restriction to enter this site even that it is not fool proof.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by 88088

Finally you aware of his character. A truly dictator.
Yup by FUCK OFF from this forum! YOU MOFO PIMP.

He is irritating but he has raised valid points that I will have to consider.

The forum is currently a very liberal environment where depravity has been featured and the content is most certainly not suitable for impressionable kids.

However rather than try to sterilise the world my kids live in, I've approached the issue of adult content using education and explaining that we live in a imperfect world populated by some extremely imperfect people. My kids have grown up to be decent individuals despite what I have caught them viewing from time to time.

However it is impossible for me to moderate all posts. I have therefore relied on people telling me about unacceptable content as defined by the laws which govern adult internet content. When it is reported, I remove it along with DMCA violations.

EG I have no love for perverted upskirt content but there is so much of it all over the net it is next to impossible for me to keep it out. Just look at http://www.pornresource.com/sites/upskirt/

I most certainly would not want female members of my family to be stalked and end up in ANY site on the net mine included. The question is how do I prevent other people from doing this:



It took just 5 seconds for me to find an image and hot link here. I didn't take it. I am not interested in such images. I disapprove of this act of taking such covert stuff but how do I control an internet with literally billions of people connected at any one time while at the same time still running an ADULT site.

I am beginning to think that this is an all or nothing situation which I have to ponder over. Of course if the site is blocked then the decision has been made on my behalf.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by 88088

Here comes again SISSY SEAJ's stupidity. As matter of fact one of those acting like an infant is you; yourself. If Sam doesn't wants to ban you, what makes you think he will ban the under aged members.

In the early days, I actually used "adultcheck" to confirm that the viewer was over 18. It was a credit card entry system. It was assumed that anyone with a credit card was over 18.

However the concept became obsolete and adultcheck and other age verification systems disappeared from cyberspace.

The amount of porn videos that are available to anyone kids included is so enormous now that trying to block unacceptable content from young eyes is next to impossible. The kids are more knowledgeable than I am and they view stuff on their own iphones. Just 10 years ago access to the internet could be controlled by parents by making sure the family computer was in the living room. Now they have their own private porn stash on the mobile phones some of which they have made themselves!