First Time Wallop a Peeping Tom!!!

[moneyface]

Originally Posted by ahpaul25

Hahahahahha............that time complain say age problems lah this and that lah....seee..........in the end, u 2 are together.........this is FATE my bro.........lolz..............hope i got my fate too with the ger i loved her so much......haiz.........................

wow bro, u really a typical samster man... like 24hrs around the clock in here...

yeah, thks 2 the many kind advice i receive here and ard me, i manage to convince myself to try it out... till now no regrets.. hahah

yo, dun be too pessimistic, u will get to know ya right gal... trust me.. *wink*

[ahpaul25]

Originally Posted by moneyface

wow bro, u really a typical samster man... like 24hrs around the clock in here...

yeah, thks 2 the many kind advice i receive here and ard me, i manage to convince myself to try it out... till now no regrets.. hahah

yo, dun be too pessimistic, u will get to know ya right gal... trust me.. *wink*

Hahaha...........bro.............bo bian......i bo work ma.......not like u guys lor......i everyday at hm........till i damn sian.........hope to get a right gal, so can accompany her daily .....hahahaha

[Cheri_Popper]

Originally Posted by moneyface

but IMHO unless it is a very serious criminal act, u and i know how ëffective the IOs are

Sorry Bro, I beg to differ! Firstly using a Baseball bat to assualt someone is already a serious criminal act....voluntary Causing Hurt with a dangerous weapon.

Secondly, most IO are efficient and effective in their investigations if they want to.

[lawry]

Originally Posted by moneyface

i already prepare my statement. that is i notice this guy was trying to prick my car and commit some thief. as the place was dark, he did not notice i am inside there. when i shouted at him, he literally try to challenge me by banging my glass and kicking my door. my gal at this time got really scared and the only thing i can do is to pull out my weapon for self-defence.. my gal statement might not be valid, but imagine who will the IO believe.. a rugged 40s or a young lady... u tell me...
yeah i may have peep my gal for abt 2 yrs b4 we were together - she admit that it was due to her "negligient" to be a object of live show... anyway back to the topic, i did not purposely hide in one corner intentionally to intrude into others privacy... a peeping tom sounds similar but actually it is a totally different issue. they purposely hide in a corner, wait for the prey and pounce onto the line of sight once they have the chance.. all these were done with a motive and in an intentional one...

pardon me for saying these,

1) to prick ur car and steal it.. it requires
a) nobody in the car
b) pricking tools required.
c) a quiet area

for a) aido.. i have been to that pariticular carpark to bonk before too.. I
know that with the street lights across ECP, It is able to see
whether there are ppl in the car from far.. so the peeping tom
definately able to see that u guys in the car.. so will he approach
the car to steal?
b) When the police comes.. they will do body search on theif.. if they
find no tools.. How? He has super mental power to open car door
lock?
c) That car park is definately not a "quiet area" many similar likeminded
ppl use that area to bonk.. If a thief tries to steal a car there ppl
will definately see. who will be so stupid to steal car there..

regarding about purpose..

1) You will purposly intentionally peep at her room and see if she is
back. When she is back.. you will purposly look at her direction and
continue to see the whole show.
2) Immediately after the first and second show, You did not
immediately "inform" her of her mistake but contiuning taken
advantage of the situation to have free show. How to inform? send
a note to her mail box.. or wait for her down her block and notify her
thats a true blue samurai.
With the two intent above, you still not considered peeping tom?
unintention or non-purpose only refers to first time case.. you have
been staring for 2 years.. if that is not on purpose i do not know what
is.

Lastly, it is good/shiok and easy to vent anger on others.. What if his dad found out that u STARE at her daughter at the corridor.. If his dad comes over to BASH you up.. its ok?

I am not against u or anything.. (let me put it clear first) i am merely stating facts.

cheers

lawry

[moneyface]

Originally Posted by Cheri_Popper

Sorry Bro, I beg to differ! Firstly using a Baseball bat to assualt someone is already a serious criminal act....voluntary Causing Hurt with a dangerous weapon.

Secondly, most IO are efficient and effective in their investigations if they want to.

Now this is one of the incident i came across, real life...

2 fellows, A and B got involved in illegal soccer betting, A don't want to return and B is the one introducing A to the bookie. B try to talk to A but A refused to listen and went further to threaten B that he will get B involved if he continued to help the bookie.. B got really piss off and he met up A, together they went to the police.. upon discovering that wat they did consititute to a possible criminal offence, the IO proceed to handle the case. Now A after his statement quietly left the place leaving B waiting for the interview with the IO.

Inside the room IO began to "threaten" B with statement like they can go to B's hse, check his sms record etc.. but B was not bother by it stating that he was not involved in any illegal activities and he welcome them to conduct any investigation. The IO then began to persuade B to drop the case as they have hundreds of such cases and if he continue to pursue the case, B will only get himself into unneccesary problems.... After further discussion B decide to have an amicable way of settling the case with A and the case was drop and like what the IO says," this case can be thrown into the rubbish bin and case close..."

Now 2 questions?? First can A after being involved in a statement and a possible suspect of illegal activites not participate in the interview by the IO and leave??

Second, can a IO "persuade" B from dropping a case involving a possible criminal acts by stating B could get himself into a lot of inconvenience, and they have hundreds of such cases, etc..

Now u tell me, given such scenario, what is not possible?? Maybe if the case is raised up, the IO can just inform the uncle, there is no visual signs of a beating, sending u to the hospital u got to pay for the medical fee, then u got to come back and wait for the medical report, then u have to come back for another statement, then we will document this statement to be a official investigation record. hey uncle u ok with that???

Next, the fact that a road bully who openly in the daylight took out a weapon and starting bashing the young fellow. The road bully got away with a fine. and the appeal was till today still tangling in the air.. u tell me, what is not possible.... i don't place such high hope on their "efficiency"... maybe u still do... well to each their own views..

[Castrol]

Originally Posted by moneyface

Now this is one of the incident i came across, real life...

2 fellows, A and B got involved in illegal soccer betting, A don't want to return and B is the one introducing A to the bookie. B try to talk to A but A refused to listen and went further to threaten B that he will get B involved if he continued to help the bookie..

i read up to here... dont make no sense bro...

"A don't want to return"... what?

[lawry]

Originally Posted by Castrol

i read up to here... dont make no sense bro...

"A don't want to return"... what?

basically he wans to tell us that the IO will throw out his case as he think his case will be minor in IO's eye..

oh well,

let u know alittle bit about defending/fighting.

If a person use a fist to wack you.. u have to use a fist back too..
if u use weapon and he use fist.. U are using offensive weapon... charged
if u use fist. but u are well known kong fu master.. pppl knows that one blow of u fist u can cause serious hurt.. ur fist is considered as a weapon.

one thing,
he say to IO,
Sir, he use base ball bat to hit me..

you say,

No leh.. he fall down his ownself..

IO says,

If you dont wack him with base ball bat.. how the hell he knows u have base ball bat..
haahhahahahahha

[moneyface]

Originally Posted by lawry

pardon me for saying these,

1) to prick ur car and steal it.. it requires
a) nobody in the car

-->> from my experience, with today car's tinting, its enuff to not able to see anyone inside the car given the density of the surrounding lights.. its highly possible given the uncle's age, he could not be able to see anyone inside the car..
b) pricking tools required.

-->> sometimes all u need is just 2 wires to do that... i use to try pricking locks in Poly in my poly days using just a paper clip.. no need fanciful tools.. if nothing is being found, not surprising as the fellow can just drop the wires and paper clip easily..
c) a quiet area

-->> if that place is not consider quiet, then bro tell me what place is consider?? cemetry??

for a) aido.. i have been to that pariticular carpark to bonk before too.. I
know that with the street lights across ECP, It is able to see
whether there are ppl in the car from far.. so the peeping tom
definately able to see that u guys in the car.. so will he approach
the car to steal?

-->> i do not know whether we r talking abt the same place, but i am very sure that place is huge and its light density is to the very minimum.. i have perfect eyesight and sometimes i can passby the cars w/o noticing there are people inside..

b) When the police comes.. they will do body search on theif.. if they
find no tools.. How? He has super mental power to open car door
lock?
-->> as mentioned u dun need fanciful tool box full of tools to prick a car lock.. also the car lock is one of the most vulnerable lock around.. check it out with a car accessories guy and you will know why...

c) That car park is definately not a "quiet area" many similar likeminded
ppl use that area to bonk.. If a thief tries to steal a car there ppl
will definately see. who will be so stupid to steal car there..
-->> that place is definitely not as populated as u have put it... given the big area, big trucks around, our salon car is easily dwarf and conceal out of sight... from the public eye...

regarding about purpose..

1) You will purposly intentionally peep at her room and see if she is
back. When she is back.. you will purposly look at her direction and
continue to see the whole show.


2) Immediately after the first and second show, You did not
immediately "inform" her of her mistake but contiuning taken
advantage of the situation to have free show. How to inform? send
a note to her mail box.. or wait for her down her block and notify her
thats a true blue samurai.
With the two intent above, you still not considered peeping tom?
unintention or non-purpose only refers to first time case.. you have
been staring for 2 years.. if that is not on purpose i do not know what
is.
-->> I did not purposely "bio" into her room into the first place. we are living in pigeon holes in singapore. probably less than 100m away from the next block.. with an eye view across, u can practically see rooms not cover by curtains.. does that constitute peeping??? hence my initial intention was not to peep. now if something out of the ordinary eg. like a gal undressing without concealment of curtain, will any guy touch his heart and stop watching... nay... i dun believe anyone will do that... now is that consider peeping.. nope.. that is watching.. so what constitute peeping.. its when u purposely insert a pin-hole camera, going to her unit, try to prick the windows so u can take a look, that is peeping.. i didn't do that.. if she close the curtain and its beyond my scope of sight, and i ran over thinking of ways to watch her, then that has constitute an intention of peeping and thats a offence.. this is definitely in line with wat a full-time nite peeping tom do.. u will be surprised at their experience and not to mention the patience, tactic and other ideas they can come out with just to steal that peep... their peeping intention is clear as water....


Lastly, it is good/shiok and easy to vent anger on others.. What if his dad found out that u STARE at her daughter at the corridor.. If his dad comes over to BASH you up.. its ok?

-->> if her dad do come over, i will inform him to take a look ard cos there certainly will not be me as the only one watching (not peeping) and i will advise the dad to install a much tinted windows or have a larger curtain.. and of cos not to mention to remember to pull the curtain up constantly...

I am not against u or anything.. (let me put it clear first) i am merely stating facts.

-->> I understand perfectly bro.... no problem lar
cheers

lawry

[moneyface]

Originally Posted by Castrol

i read up to here... dont make no sense bro...

"A don't want to return"... what?

oh.. "A" dun wan to return the $$ he lost...

[moneyface]

Originally Posted by lawry

basically he wans to tell us that the IO will throw out his case as he think his case will be minor in IO's eye..

-->> nope bro, wat i mean is try to have a more practical view abt the so call "efficiency" ard us..

oh well,

let u know alittle bit about defending/fighting.

If a person use a fist to wack you.. u have to use a fist back too..
if u use weapon and he use fist.. U are using offensive weapon... charged
if u use fist. but u are well known kong fu master.. pppl knows that one blow of u fist u can cause serious hurt.. ur fist is considered as a weapon.

-->> nope a weapon is considered a physical instrument use to defend/attack.. a fist is not consider a weapon (cos a baby fist cant be a weapon rite), but if u r a gongfu expert, u yaself is consider a "weapon"...

one thing,
he say to IO,
Sir, he use base ball bat to hit me..

you say,

No leh.. he fall down his ownself..

IO says,

If you dont wack him with base ball bat.. how the hell he knows u have base ball bat..
haahhahahahahha

-->> nay again u r wrong,

uncle: Sir he hit me with baseball bat

I say: Boh ley..

IO says: if you dont hit him with base ball bat, how he knows u have base ball bat.

I say: I carry the baseball bat, but doesn't mean i use it to attack him.

IO says: then u carry a baseball bat for wat??

I say: then u carry ya dick ard means u wanna to rape someone lar?? If not, u carry a dick ard for what???

IO: ...... *LL*


hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahah

[rogerking]

Originally Posted by moneyface

I say: then u carry ya dick ard means u wanna to rape someone lar?? If not, u carry a dick ard for what???

IO: ...... *LL*

most probably the IO will say: you dont try to be KL with me.

[banana]

Originally Posted by moneyface

-->> nay again u r wrong,

uncle: Sir he hit me with baseball bat

I say: Boh ley..

IO says: if you dont hit him with base ball bat, how he knows u have base ball bat.

I say: I carry the baseball bat, but doesn't mean i use it to attack him.

IO says: then u carry a baseball bat for wat??

I say: then u carry ya dick ard means u wanna to rape someone lar?? If not, u carry a dick ard for what???

IO: ...... *LL*


hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahah

bro! joke of the day! good one!

[Cheri_Popper]

Originally Posted by moneyface

the fact that a road bully who openly in the daylight took out a weapon and starting bashing the young fellow. The road bully got away with a fine. and the appeal was till today still tangling in the air

Sentencing of Accused is not up to the IO but the Magistrate!

[Cheri_Popper]

Originally Posted by moneyface

Now u tell me, given such scenario, what is not possible?? Maybe if the case is raised up, the IO can just inform the uncle, there is no visual signs of a beating, sending u to the hospital u got to pay for the medical fee, then u got to come back and wait for the medical report, then u have to come back for another statement, then we will document this statement to be a official investigation record.

If anyone is hit with such an object, there will definitely bruise marks. From the bruise marks, they can roughly judge what type of weapon was used!

You can talk BIG here about telling the IO so that he "LL"! But I sincerely doubt that you will have the guts to tell that in his face when you are in his office. He will most properly placed you under arrest for suspicious of being involved in a VCH with a dangerous weapon. You will be placed in the lock-up for 48hrs for investigations. Then we shall see if you still behave in such an arrogrant manner towards him.

Bro, The pen is always mightier than the Sword. the IO can always charge you for something else if he wants to. There are so many different offences in the Law book!

[Cheri_Popper]

Originally Posted by moneyface

Now A after his statement quietly left the place leaving B waiting for the interview with the IO.

The IO then began to persuade B to drop the case

1) It takes time to conduct investigation. There is no point of detaining "A" for investigations at that moment.

2) What you had portrait is a case of "Hearsay Evidence". There is no circumtances evidence or solid evidence against either parties. Even if the IO procced with the case, the AG Chambers will not procced with the case. Therefore it is advisable to drop the case.