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jackbl · #**11806** 16-09-2012, 02:13 AM

Counterfeit degree market heats up in employment season
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VietNamNet Bridge – It’s now the time for new university graduates to rush buy counterfeit degrees and certificates, which help them make-up for their profiles and polish their images in the employers’ eyes.

The counterfeit degree market has become more bustling these days, when university graduates have received their bachelor degrees and begin looking for jobs. There are many commodities in the market, while the prices are really “reasonable,” if noting that with just some hundreds of thousands of dong, a candidate would have better opportunities to find good jobs.

Vu Viet Ha, a fourth year student of the Trade University said the foreign language and informatics center on Giai Phong Road in Hanoi is a well-known address for students who look for informatics English training certificates.

The center is a small room covering an area of 35 square meters located on a small alley near the Bach Mai Hospital. Le, the receptionist, promised that one would get the certificates they want just after two days.

Ha said that university graduates now tend to buy counterfeit informatics and foreign language certificates instead of attending the training courses and exams for real certificates.

“We just want to “beautify” our CVs with as many certificates as possible,” Ha said. “I just need to spend 300,000 dong in order to obtain a “good grade” certificate.

In general, it takes three months to learn and take exam for an “A” level foreign language certificate, while it takes one month for “A” level informatics certificates. Meanwhile, if contacting the center, one would have to spend one week at maximum to obtain the certificates they want.

Counterfeit certificates with real signatures and stamps

The prices of counterfeit certificates vary. In order to obtain an “A” level certificate, one would have to pay 200,000 dong, but if wanting a “B” (good) certificate, he would have to pay 300,000 dong, while the price would be 400,000 dong for excellent grade certificate.

Especially, the center has affirmed that it can provide “real certificates” of the Ministry of Education and Training at the “reasonable price” of 500,000 dong.

When asked about the authentication of the certificates, the receptionist affirmed that the certificates are 100 percent genuine.

“If you can prove that these are counterfeit documents, I will repay money to you,” she said, adding that she sells some 10 degrees and certificates a day and she has not heard any complaint about the quality of the certificates.

When certificates do not truly reflect the qualification

Like other commodity markets, the counterfeit degree market also witnesses the stiff competition among the sellers.

When calling 0915.094.70x, the reporter, who introduced himself as a new graduate wanting an English certificate, was told that he would get a real certificate two days after he pays money.

The “service provider” also persuaded the reporter that it would be the best solution to buy certificates from him, because he can provide real certificates with the stamps of the Ministry of Education and Training. Meanwhile, other service providers can only sell the certificates granted by foreign language centers.

Tran Ngoc Long, Director of VMS Media Company, said in many cases, candidates have very poor foreign language skills, while they can show a lot of foreign language certificates.

He said the candidates, who clearly cheat employers, would not be accepted.

Compiled by Thu Uyen

raidz70 · #**11807** 16-09-2012, 08:53 AM

Hello to all senior bro here.

Need some help to translate. Thanks

hen gap ban lan sao. buoi sang toi va ban co the an sang uong caphe ok

ban co muon dan toi di khong

toi thich cai mac day chuyen mua o gan chua ban dan toi den do de mua duoc khong

vietnam80 · #**11808** 16-09-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by raidz70

Hello to all senior bro here.

Need some help to translate. Thanks

hen gap ban lan sao. buoi sang toi va ban co the an sang uong caphe ok

ban co muon dan toi di khong

toi thich cai mac day chuyen mua o gan chua ban dan toi den do de mua duoc khong

i think she is asking u something to bring her eat breakfast and drink coffee. then ask u to bring her buy something which i dun understand liao

lovesprout · #**11809** 16-09-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raidz70

Hello to all senior bro here.

Need some help to translate. Thanks

1. hen gap ban lan sao. buoi sang toi va ban co the an sang uong caphe ok

2. ban co muon dan toi di khong

3. toi thich cai mac day chuyen mua o gan chua ban dan toi den do de mua duoc khong

1. Meet with you next time. Arrive in the morning, you can eat breakfast and drink coffee.

2. Do you want to bring me to go?

3. I like that necklace bought near the temple, can you bring me there to buy?

lovesprout · #**11810** 16-09-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vietnam80

thank u for the translate KT bro.... but still i dun knw what she meant. she ask me to help her look for room that is cheap, i sms her that i find liao $15 per day with makan, then she sms me the above....Siao charbo....

Her meaning is clear. She doesn't need your help because she doesn't want to owe you. Either she didn't ask you to help in the first place, or she misunderstood your sms. Perhaps she thought that you will provide free lodging to her?

vietnam80 · #**11811** 16-09-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesprout

Her meaning is clear. She doesn't need your help because she doesn't want to owe you. Either she didn't ask you to help in the first place, or she misunderstood your sms. Perhaps she thought that you will provide free lodging to her?

aiyo, free lodging anything mah...

raidz70 · #**11812** 16-09-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vietnam80

i think she is asking u something to bring her eat breakfast and drink coffee. then ask u to bring her buy something which i dun understand liao

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovesprout

1. Meet with you next time. Arrive in the morning, you can eat breakfast and drink coffee.

2. Do you want to bring me to go?

3. I like that necklace bought near the temple, can you bring me there to buy?

Thanks for your help. How do i tell her we can meet up on her off day? using the translator give me some funny sentence

jackbl · #**11813** 16-09-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by raidz70

buoi sang toi va ban co the an sang uong caphe ok

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Originally Posted by lovesprout

Arrive in the morning, you can eat breakfast and drink coffee.

Long time no see! I guess long time u didn't use Vn, right?

Buoi sang, toi va ban xxxxxx = Morning, I and you ......

jackbl · #**11814** 16-09-2012, 06:12 PM

Resume forgery rings uncovered
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Many resume forgery rings have mushroomed in Ho Chi Minh City and the neighboring province of Binh Duong to meet the rising demand of those who want to legalize their personal status and identity to find a job.

Those wishing to change their identities can find a taxi motorbike rider who works at an industrial park in Ho Chi Minh City’s Thu Duc District or nearby Binh Duong Province’s Di An Town.

It will take them only two days to realize their wishes for a charge of VND100,000-200,000 per fake resume profile.

The forger can even get fake resumes with changes in their native names through the relevant papers such as identity cards (ID card), health certification, temporary and permanent residence status, job applications, and qualifications.

A piece of cake

Tuoi Tre reporters followed two men role-playing as job seekers who needed urgent resumes for job applications and traveled to a mobile phone shop in Khiet Tam Market in Thu Duc District last month.

As the application deadline was imminent, they could not go home for addition papers.

Lan, the woman at the shop, first questioned the men about how they learned of her services.

After further discussion to convince them about the services, Lan asked the men where the companies they were applying to were located, inside or outside the industrial park, since there are two kinds of resumes for each area, and the one for the latter is cheaper.

After paying VND100,000 each for a resumes for the latter, they received an appointment to receive the complete resumes the following day.

As promised, one day later, they returned to the shop to get brand new and blank profiles with no more information than the signature and seal of the general hospital of Binh Duong Province on the Health Certification, and signature and seal of the temporary residence certification from authorities of Binh Chieu Ward, Thu Duc District.

A photocopy-photo shop in Song Than Industrial park in Di An Town, Hai Duong, also offered the same services.

After two young men arrived to ask for an ID card for job applications, a female employee asked to borrow their original ID cards.

"I only need to change the photo on the ID card to make a resume with all necessary stamps and seals. We can change it back once you get the job,” she added.

Before that, a young man named Hai who worked at the store had charged a man from Thanh Hoa province VND120,000 for the same service.

The new resume not only had his name changed, but also move his hometown to southern Binh Phuoc Province.

It was accompanied by all the relevant papers and documents bearing signatures and seals of a doctor at the General Hospital in Binh Duong Province and the president of the People's Committee of Tan Loi Commune, Dong Phu District, Binh Phuoc Province.

Gradual exposure

On August 17 a man who expected to receive a set of new forged documents was directed to an unnamed photocopy shop in Linh Xuan Ward in Thu Duc District. There, a man named Cuong guided him to a grocery store located on Road No. 4 to meet a woman named Lan, since he was only acting as an intermediary.

Cuong is one three or four young men working as intermediaries at the photocopy shop.

After arriving at the grocery, Lan, the owner, brought out a bunch of documents from the desk drawer and asked the man for his height and weight, in order to fill out the Health Certification. The paper bore the seal of An Dan clinic in Di An town and many signatures and fake seals of local police authorities. After handling the dossier, Lan asked the man if the photo on the ID card was his, adding that she would return the old photo once he get the job.

A woman named Thuong and her husband, Vinh, at Hoai Thuong photo shop on Road No. 4 in Linh Xuan Ward offered to do the job for VND120,000 per set. At about 9:45 am on August 21, the woman handed over a packet of documents bearing fake signatures and seals from state authorities for her customers.

They asked Thuong how she did this so quickly, and she replied that she only receives the requirement from guests before passing them on to another person.

After tracking down the “other person” following Thuong’s hint, Tuoi Tre can confirm he is a man named Que who lives at a house on Road No. 4 in Linh Xuan Ward. Peeking into this house, our correspondents found many documents and papers relating to the counterfeiting of documents for job applications.

By spending many days tracking down the whole network, we found a ring organized hierarchically with many intermediaries, mostly young men working as the collectors of information from customers at the aforementioned mobile phone, photocopy, photo and grocery shops.

After the dealers, mostly located in Linh Xuan Ward, receive the orders they transfer them to men in charge of higher levels, like Que Cuong, Hoi and the grocery owner Lan, who affix them with faux signatures, seals and documents of authority as prescribed in the job application.

Lieutenant Colonel Vo Ngoc Meo, captain of the police department for economic crime investigation of Thu Duc District, said: "These fake resumes and documents all bear indistinguishable sharp seals and signatures."

Potential risks

Upper Colonel Tran Van Tem, head of the department for most wanted criminals (PC52) under theHCMC Police Department, said the forgery of resumes and other documents in job applications contains potential risks since those who want fake profiles are possibly trying to violate the law in one way or another.

"In some situations, there are underage teenagers living away from home asking for fake resumes for job applications.”

“However, PC52 has recently arrested many wanted criminals who had changed their names through fake ID cards and temporary and permanent residence statuses in their resumes.”

“In fact many with faked resumes committed crimes and fled from their workplaces, with the most common cases being motorbike theft”

“When the police get involved, those fake documents are real obstacles for our investigations,” he added.

forgotoldnick · #**11815** 16-09-2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by raidz70

How do i tell her we can meet up on her off day?

many ways to say it:

1) khi nao em nghi lam, minh co the gap nhau

1a) khi nao em duoc nghi, chung ta co the gap nhau

2) khi nao em ranh thi minh gap nhau

2a) khi nao em ranh thi chung ta gap nhau

3) minh co the gap nhau tren ngay nghi cua em

anthonysoprano · #**11816** 17-09-2012, 12:01 AM

are there any thai club threads here? either ways, what is ur opiinion, on the difference btw thai club and viet club?

me chiong thai club alot. but not viet club.

LittleDidIKnow · #**11817** 17-09-2012, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by anthonysoprano

are there any thai club threads here? either ways, what is ur opiinion, on the difference btw thai club and viet club?

me chiong thai club alot. but not viet club.

I think under the HC and Ktv section got a few threads on Thai Disco. But nothing like this one that is heavily involved in the Vietnamese language, or so I thought.