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[jackbl]

Legalizing exploitation of poor women not such a good idea
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Last week in Vietweek, a local sociologist made an argument for legalizing prostitution in Vietnam because it was “normal” and the government could collect taxes.

Although his argument was quite weak, many would seem to agree the world’s “oldest profession” should be legalized and managed for the safety of both the client and the service provider.

The sociologist cited prostitution in the Netherlands and Germany as successful initiatives to legalize the profession. What he did not mention is that such a business venture needs to be closely managed and policed.

If a client in any of these countries is dissatisfied with the service there is a formal procedure for making a complaint and it is resolved following prescribed regulations. In addition, the prostitute is also protected from any unwanted behavior and if there is a problem she will receive immediate assistance to protect her. Child prostitution is not allowed, nor is trafficking of children and females.

Considering the manner in which business and regulations are handled in Vietnam, legalizing prostitution would only create another unmanageable source of corruption and would do nothing to take the sleaze out of the sex business.

Supplemental sexual behaviors of men outside the boundaries of marriage are apparently more common in Asian countries than in North America or Europe. In Asia, men use brothels more as a source of entertainment and frequently offer the services of a woman as a business gift to business associates (http://prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php, “The John’s Chart” 08/11/2012).

I have noticed that Asian men frequently have extramarital affairs with mistresses or prostitutes as a signal of status, as it is only possible for the relatively wealthy to support a second or minor wife/mistress. I have seen many Asian men outside of Vietnam who are married and have families but have a second wife in Vietnam with children included (the second wife called a “minor” wife). However, sexual mores are a topic that is rarely discussed openly.

Prostitution in Vietnam is everywhere you look: hotels, barber shops, massage parlors, brothels, karaoke clubs, on the street, on the beach. It is estimated that there are 70,000 prostitutes in Vietnam with 20,000 of them children (http://www.child-hood.com/index. Country Information: Vietnam). Certainly the demand for such a business exists. But where do we get the supply?

Why do women prostitute themselves? A simple answer is that it is lucrative – as has been demonstrated by the recent arrest of top-level hookers who were getting US$2,000 per act. These women may have had the luxury of choosing to sell themselves in order to maintain a glamorous lifestyle, but most women have no such choice.

An overwhelming number of “working girls” are forced into this degrading profession by poverty, ignorance or coercion – and for them it is not profitable. We have heard of cases where parents sell their daughters into prostitution, some knowingly, others out of ignorance and poverty.

I wonder how many of the men who use these services would want their daughter to choose prostitution as a profession?

Still, some would be in favor of legitimizing prostitution for profit to the state. What about those who control all the street hookers and brothels? Are they willing to give up their monopoly and to compete with a cleaner industry? I can imagine the exploitation and marketing that would follow legalization: “Learn to be a prostitute in 30 days or less. Great working conditions. Free health checks. No education required, we will train you.”

Perhaps we should focus on eliminating the ignorance and poverty of girls and young women and give them hope of a future where they have a choice. Legalizing prostitution may enhance the hedonistic lifestyles of the wealthy, but it would only exacerbate existing “social evils,” whether or not the world’s oldest profession is officially removed from this bracket.

By George Larson
The writer is an American expat who lives and works in Ho Chi Minh City

[Honey Boon]

ya, only you no dam tac.... Saint Dog

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

I share with u all but u all only notice LT... all dam tac luon. bo tay.

[PenguinChaser]

If only all VB's Chinese are just as good as this Phuong...

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by PenguinChaser

If only all VB's Chinese are just as good as this Phuong...

Its either she is a viet chinese or she got study chinese b4. I too have a few friends who r either viet chinese or they studied chinese during uni days.

[jackbl]

37 – Negative sentence with đâu
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You know how to create a negative sentence with không (no, not) – place it before the verb in the sentence: subject + không + verb/adjective (see # 1 – Basic Sentence)

In Vietnamese, to emphasize that you don’t do something, put đâu at the end of your sentence. There are 3 variations – they’re slightly different from one another.

subject + có + verb/adjective + đâu
The implication is that you don’t have a duty to do something, or someone was supposed to do something, but s/he didn’t do it.

Anh có phải rửa bát đâu!
I (male) có have to wash dishes đâu!
I don’t have to do the dishes! (it’s not my turn today!)

Nó có đi học đâu!
He/she có go to school đâu!
He/she didn’t go to school!
(The kid played truant and his parents are mad that he did not go to school)


subject + không + verb/adjective + đâu
Generally, use this to talk about something you don’t like to do

Em không ăn hành đâu
I don’t eat scalion
I don’t eat scalion (in my Phở because I don’t like it)

Mặc cái áo đó không đẹp đâu
Wear (classifier) shirt that not good-looking
Wearing that shirt doesn’t look good (you shouldn’t wear it)


subject + chưa + verb/adjective + đâu
Chưa means yet in a question (see #29 – chưa – yet – rồi – already), and not yet in a sentence (as in you haven’t done something yet).
Suppose your dog hasn’t been fed, but your sister said she fed him already.

You say

Nó chưa ăn đâu
He not yet eat

Your sister says
Chị cho nó ăn rồi
I (older sister) give him eat already

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by vietboy

Its either she is a viet chinese or she got study chinese b4

Of course this one everyone knows.... even chinese, without study, how to write chinese word

Have u seen vietnamese who are speak vietnamese but can't write vietnamese words, maybe except their names?

[PenguinChaser]

Originally Posted by vietboy

Its either she is a viet chinese or she got study chinese b4. I too have a few friends who r either viet chinese or they studied chinese during uni days.

Her Chinese damn power. Whole 3 hours plus, only 2 wrong words. Don't think she's Viet Chinese. She using Pin Ying to construct her messages.

Met her in Pebbles (?, next to Blue Lagoon).. Now back in Vn selling clothes. Nice girl.

[PenguinChaser]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Of course this one everyone knows.... even chinese, without study, how to write chinese word

Have u seen vietnamese who are speak vietnamese but can't write vietnamese words, maybe except their names?

Wah Mr Jack

7 early 8 early chak people already....

[Honey Boon]

I hardly see him doing that ........

Originally Posted by PenguinChaser

Wah Mr Jack

7 early 8 early chak people already....

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Have u seen vietnamese who are speak vietnamese but can't write vietnamese words, maybe except their names?

yes, i have seen a viet that dun know how to read and write TV. End up me and my wife have to translate and write for her. i'm serious.

Thought u in this scene way longer than me u should have seen at least 1 b4 ma.

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by Honey Boon

I hardly see him doing that ........

then u should follow more of his posts, he has been doing that lately.

[PenguinChaser]

Originally Posted by vietboy

then u should follow more of his posts, he has been doing that lately.

更年期到了, maybe

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by vietboy

yes, i have seen a viet that dun know how to read and write TV. End up me and my wife have to translate and write for her. i'm serious.

translate?

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

translate?

troi oi, my TV not as good as yurs. So my wife have to ask her in TV, then translate to me, when i have qns i ask my wife, then she translate to her. got it?

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by PenguinChaser

更年期到了, maybe

Oops, jackbl kenna chak... Lol