Tieng Viet lovers club

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by justguy

"em di chung voi may chi roi anh s"

Any bro can help translate this?
Cant get the translation for "May chi roi"

few sister already...

[jackbl]

Hundreds attend lesbian wedding near marriage registration body
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Two lesbians were found tying the knot on Saturday in the southern province of Binh Duong against the backdrop that Vietnam bans same-sex marriage.


Around 150 people attended their wedding party at Huong Dong Que restaurant, a stone’s throw from a local people’s committee which is in charge of marriage registration, located in the provincial capital Thu Dau Mot City, newswire Infonet reported.

The ‘groom’ is Le P., the seventh in a family of 8 siblings who all come from the southernmost province of Ca Mau, according to Le Van Nh., claiming to be ‘his’ father.

The other half is reportedly a woman named Kim Ph., from the same province, whose parents were believed to refuse to partake in the wedding.

Giang, identifying himself as the elder brother of the ‘bride’, who joined the party said he did so because of the love for his sister.

The bride broke up with her former husband before deciding to ‘marry’ P., the father revealed.

Nh. also said that the couple who are factory workers at a local company had made no marriage registration at local competent agencies before their wedding.

In May, another same-sex wedding took place in Kien Giang Province – Ca Mau’s neighbor – after which local authorities fined the couple, who are gay. They left the province for another afterward.

Huge attention had been drawn to what was believed to be the first wedding between two lesbians in 2010.

A video of their wedding party in Hanoi attracted more than 10,000 views within a few days after being uploaded to YouTube.

[jackbl]

Gay Viet
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Two sets of headlines caught my eye the other day. One batch was from Hanoi, and the other was from, well, Mars.

“Obama: U.S. Makes History on Mars,” read one in USA Today, extolling the successful landing of the Curiosity rover.

“First gay pride parade kicks off in Hanoi,” declared another in Tuoi Tre News.

Human progress comes in different forms. To scientists, this epic mission to Mars demonstrates the durability of humanity’s quest for discovery. But for many people, the news from Vietnam is much more heartening – a step forward for human tolerance, acceptance and social justice.

Hanoi’s gay pride parade was significant on two levels. First, it offers hope to the many homosexual Vietnamese that they are hardly alone and don’t have to settle for closeted lives as second-class citizens.

Second, news accounts emphasized that Vietnamese authorities’ hands-off approach to the demonstration showed a tolerant and even progressive attitude.

Oppression of homosexuality, after all, remains the rule in most of the world. But no civil rights movement in modern times has advanced more swiftly than the quest of gays to be accepted by civil society, not scorned and ostracized. What a difference a generation makes.

Two decades ago, I was finishing up a two-year stint covering the gay rights movement in the United States as a reporter for the Los Angeles Times. By then, colorful gay pride marches like the recent demonstration in Hanoi had become a familiar part of America’s socio-political pageantry, but were largely confined to gay communities in big cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York. A festive attitude had been replaced by a sense of urgency as the HIV epidemic ravaged those communities. The gay political crusade became focused on mainstream acceptance and dramatic social change.

I remember one meeting with two gay activists who explained how, within two decades, America would be legalizing same-sex marriage.

Frankly, I didn’t get it. I reminded them that many thousands of gays were already living together as couples, and the threat of HIV was a strong argument for monogamy. There were already ceremonial, if not legal, weddings. What, I wondered, was the big deal? The activists sighed and moved on.

But my reporting led me to a fascinating phenomenon: the “gayby boom.” Many couples in America’s gay community, which used to jokingly call heterosexuals “breeders,” were starting to raise families themselves. Lesbians were conceiving with the help of sperm banks, or by partnering with gays willing to donated sperm. More gays were adopting children, or retaining custody of offspring at the dissolution of heterosexual marriages.

Today, those children are young adults, and these unconventional families are a staple of TV sitcoms in the U.S. But back then, my story shocked some of my editors before it shocked the readers. And meeting those unconventional families made me understand that, yes, marriage matters.

In the U.S., after a few states have now adopted sanctioning same-sex marriage, President Barack Obama recently endorsed the movement as well – an evolution from his previous opposition. My guess is that he has now moved to the right side of history – and Hanoi’s gay pride demonstration, and the comments of some authorities, suggests that Vietnam may be heading that way, too, while many countries try to resist progress.

The political is also personal. Consider: Twice in the past year, two of my oldest friends – fathers like me – separately revealed that their adult sons are gay.

A generation ago, these conversations either would not have taken place at all, or they would have been painful exercises. These young men would have had a much harder time acknowledging this reality – not only to their families, but to themselves. The power of this taboo has tortured so many souls – and many to the point of suicide.

It’s terrible to think what might have been. All considered, I prefer to think that someday I’ll be invited to a wedding with two grooms and no bride.

[jackbl]

Dutch man asked to pay extra fee for own wedding photos
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A Dutch lawyer has complained that a photo studio in Ho Chi Minh City asked him to pay extra to obtain his original wedding photo files – a case in which his ownership rights have been violated, according to a Vietnamese lawyer.

In a letter to Tuoi Tre, Boer Sander, a Dutch lawyer, said he and his Vietnamese wife went to the MK wedding studio on Ly Tu Trong Street, Ho Chi Minh City, in December 2011 to have their wedding photos taken.

The shop’s owner, M.K., showed them an album of wedding photos of Duong Truong Thien Ly as a sample. K. promised the couple that they would have an album similar to the model’s, and that it would be created by a well-known photographer.

The couple then agreed to have an album made for US$1,200. They also chose to buy a wedding dress for $2,250 at the studio, which also provides bridal clothes.

The couple paid a deposit and received a receipt from the studio. No written agreement was signed between the two sides regarding the deal, the lawyer said.

In July 2012, the couple returned to the studio to have their photos taken. They did not meet any famous photographers, instead M.K. took the photos himself.

In addition, unlike the patterns in Thien Ly’s album, which consisted of gorgeous open-air landscapes, the couple simply had their photos taken in the shop’s studio.

The couple was shocked when the shop delivered their album, since the quality of the photos was far lower than the templates they had been promised.

In the face of such a situation, the young Dutch lawyer could do nothing other than blame himself for not requiring a signed contract for the service.

In addition, MK provided them with files of photos that are not high enough quality to be enlarged. When the couple asked M.K. to provide them with the original photo files, they were asked to pay VND5 million ($240) more.

Although the couple raised the argument that the original files should be provided without an additional charge, the studio refused, insisting on what they said were their ‘regulations’. “By then I was fed up with everything,” lamented Sander.

“I don’t know where in the world has such a rule,” Sander bitterly said. The young couple then decided that they would rather give up the files than pay the extra fee.

Tuoi Tre has phoned M. K. to find out more about the issue, but he said he would only dealt directly with his client about it.



Contract needed

An issue has emerged from the case: Do clients have the right to own their wedding photo files created by a studio?

In talking with Tuoi Tre, a number of studio owners said that if the issue is not included in a contract, then delivering or not delivering photo files is an issue of their choice.

They said they usually keep photo files created in deals worth VND3-5 million, so that they can charge clients who want their photos to be enlarged.

But as for deals worth VND6-8 million for an album made within the studio, or VND10-12 million for an album made outdoors, the delivery of photo files to clients is no great matter, many studios said.

Of course, prices are subject to negotiation, but the price of $1,200 for an album made inside a studio is not cheap at all, they added.

The case also gives rise to another issue: Do photo service providers have the right to keep client’s personal photos?

It is advisable that the couples require a written contract made between them and providers of wedding photo services so as to avoid suffering the same fate as the Dutch groom.

Sander’s ownership violated

Commenting on the case, lawyer Bui Quang Nghiem said the MK studio has violated the Dutch man’s ownership rights.

A civil contract can be made orally, in writing or by specific acts; unless a specific form for such type of contract is provided for by law, according to Article 401 of the Civil Code, Nghiem said.

In the case, M.K created an original photo file based on an oral verbal agreement with Sander, but a written contract for the service had not been signed. Therefore, Sander is at a disadvantage in claiming that the studio had not provided services in accordance to the agreement, Nghiem said.

However, as defined in relevant laws, such a photo file is a type of photographic work, and under Article 39 of the Law on Intellectual Property, “an organization or individual that contracts with an author who creates a work, shall be the owner of the rights as stipulated in Article 20 and paragraph 3 of Article 19 of this Law, unless otherwise agreed.”

Meanwhile, all the rights mentioned in Article 20 are those on property. Therefore, the original files created by M.K belong to Sander, Nghiem said.

As there was no bilateral agreement in which Sander agreed to transfer his ownership over the photo file to M.K., the fact that M.K. refused to hand the file to Sander is a violation of his ownership rights, Nghiem concluded.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Dutch man asked to pay extra fee for own wedding photos
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this happen in ALL wedding studio in Sillypore as well... its their moeny digging tactic

[Greatking]

Originally Posted by jackbl

The Turtle and the Dragon
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To my understanding, there only left 4 of such specie in the world.

I remember vividly about an incident.

I was in a motel just 2 streets away from Hoan Kiem lake. It was about 9am in the morning and freezing cold (in feb). I was taking photos when I notice an isle within the lake. It was a small white building and deity statue was believe to be place in it. My camera was all well until I took the photo of the building. Next second, after took a photo of it, my camera cannot operate.

Don't know what happened. Sent it to repair. Spent about 50USD. I was told the water got into the camera. (But everything was fine and weather pretty good till I took that photo). Stunt...

[Greatking]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

this happen in ALL wedding studio in Sillypore as well... its their moeny digging tactic

Is that what is going to happen this coming September?!

[Greatking]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Gay Viet
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I notice homosexual is increasing alot in VN.. especially in the South...

[jackbl]

Allowing kids to watch adult movies, parents could be fined
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Although all movies are labeled to classify audiences before being released at cinemas, Vietnamese adults seem to usually underestimate that and take children along with them.

“Mom, what are they doing?”

The lack of adult care over controlling what children should watch on the screen sometimes causes awkward moments. At a screening held by the Vietnam Cinematography Association, organizers let children attend the screening of a French love movie which was only for adults.

In the middle of the movie, there was a hot scene and the whole stadium felt embarrassed when a little kid asked her mom loudly, “Mom, what are they doing on the screen?” The mother seemed to have no choice and “smartly” answered, “They are massaging each other.”

The recent premiere of the movie “The Dictator,” directed by Larry Charles, in Ho Chi Minh also saw a woman bring her two children into the cinema even though the film is labeled NC-16, which means viewers under 16 are not permitted to watch.

A similar situation occurred at the premiere of the blockbuster “The Dark Knight Rises.” The problem is, despite the fact that in the US the movie is labeled PG-13, which warns that there will be scenes inappropriate for children under 13, it’s not labeled in Vietnam.

By way of explanation, Mariam El Bancha, director of operations at local movie distributor MegaStar, said that unlike the US’s regulations in labeling movies at many levels, local regulation divide movies into just three types: NC-16, banned and censored movies. So there’s no label to warn children under 13 of the movie.

By letting kids watch inappropriate movies, adults could be fined

In response Ngo Phuong Lan, head of the Cinema Department, said that organizers or individuals who allow children to come to cinemas and watch movies which are labeled only for adults will be sanctioned.

According to her, the Cinematography Law bans children from watching movies with content inappropriate for their physiological and personal development. Violators who let children enter screenings of adult-labeled movies will be fined or even charged criminally, in accordance with the law.

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by Greatking

I notice homosexual is increasing alot in VN.. especially in the South...

i was at Lotte at Q7 in HCMC and saw many lesbian couples who usually very young vb, aged around 15-20.

but it is a sign that VN is progressing well and globalizing fast.

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by Greatking

Is that what is going to happen this coming September?!

U think too much.

[jackbl]

Dogs are delicacy and man's best friend in Vietnam
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At a packed Hanoi restaurant, one of Vietnam's growing ranks of proud pooch owners tucks into a traditional delicacy to mark the end of the lunar month -- a plate of juicy dog.

Canine meat has long been on the menu in Vietnam. But now a growing love of the four-legged friends means that one man's pet can be another's dog sausage -- quite literally as far as dog bandits are concerned.

"We never kill our own dogs for their meat. Here I'm eating in a restaurant so I don't care which dogs they killed or how," Pham Dang Tien, 53, said as he chewed contentedly on a plate of boiled dog.

Dog meat is good for health and virility, believes Tien, who sees no contradiction between these monthly meat binges and owning a dog -- his family have had a string of beloved pet pooches over the course of 20 years.

For many older Vietnamese, dogs are an essential part of traditional Vietnamese cuisine that can coexist with pet ownership. Those dogs that end up on the dinner table are traditionally beaten to death.

When times were hard after the Vietnam War, local authorities in big cities strictly limited pet ownership.

But as the popularity of keeping animals at home rises along with the economy and living standards, more young people feel like 16-year-old Nguyen Anh Hong.

"I just don't understand how people can eat dogs -- they are lovely pets," she said.

The love affair has a dark side -- growing ranks of thieves go from small town to small town in rural areas of Vietnam stealing pets to sell to dog meat restaurants.

Although the value of the thefts -- dog meat fetches around six dollars per kilo -- is too low to concern the Vietnamese police, the loss of a treasured pet to the cooking pot means emotions run high.

Dog-theft related mob violence has spiralled over the last few years.

In June, a man was beaten to death after hundreds of villagers caught him red-handed trying to steal a family dog in Nghe An province, the VNExpress news site reported, triggering an outpouring of public support for the mob.

"It's not right to beat a man to death but anyone in this situation would do the same," one reader, who lost a pet to the bandits, wrote on the site.

From food to fashion

In Hanoi's Reunification Park, hundreds of people now walk their pet dogs every day, showcasing the range of exotic foreign breeds -- Chihuahuas and Huskies are particularly popular -- favoured by Hanoi-based pet-owners.

"In Vietnam now, raising pet dogs has become fashionable," said Cu Anh Tu, a 20-year-old university student and dog owner.

"The young generation now seems to love animals very much," he added.

In the countryside, local mongrels are kept as pets or guard dogs. It is these, more nondescript, animals which are most vulnerable to the dog bandits.

Most of the dogs served in Hoang Giang's restaurant are local breeds raised specifically to be eaten -- but as local dogs are also kept as pets in the countryside, it is hard to know which animals are stolen, and which are farmed.

While exotic pet dogs are found only in cities, "in the countryside people will continue to see dogs as meat," he said.

Typically, Vietnamese "eat dog meat at the end of the lunar month to get rid of bad luck. That's what business people often do", said 30-year-old Giang, a specialist dog meat chef.

As he prepared a plate of canine meat in the kitchen of his busy restaurant, Giang told AFP that his small establishment served up to seven dogs a day at that time of the month -- and business is reliably solid.

Dog is served in a range of ways -- from boiled to barbecued -- often with shrimp sauce, rice noodles and fresh herbs, he said.

Towards a 'pet loving' culture

For Nguyen Bao Sinh, a luxury kennel owner in Hanoi, Vietnam needs to move away from its traditional love of canine meat and learn from other pet-loving cultures.

"They (Westerners) love dogs in this life. That viewpoint is very good... We should love dogs here and now in this life. We should not kill them or beat them barbarously," he said.

Sinh, who run's Hanoi's only luxury kennel and grooming parlour for pets, said he has seen a rise in the number of pet-mad Vietnamese.

His establishment offers "hotel rooms" for pets whose owners go away on business or holidays -- and even has a cemetery for dogs and cats, where hundreds of pets are buried, and monks perform blessings every year.

"It would be better if the state had a law banning the eating of dog meat," Sinh said.

"However, we should not discriminate or look down upon those eating dog meat," he told AFP, adding that the key was to gradually convince the public to respect and love animals.

[jackbl]

50 percent of Vietnamese teachers regret their career decisions
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VietNamNet Bridge – Working under hard pressure and earning little money are the main reasons that make a half of Vietnamese teachers feel regret that they chose to become teachers.

The report by the Education Science Research Institute has released a report which has stirred up the public, saying that 50 percent of Vietnamese teachers wish they have not chosen to work as teachers.

Dr Vu Trong Ry from the institute said he posed the same question to general school teachers: Will you choose to work as a teacher once again, if you are allowed to make decision again?

40.9 percent of primary school teachers said “no.” Meanwhile, the figures were 59 percent for secondary school teachers and 52.4 percent for high school teachers.

Half of Vietnamese teachers have become fed up with the teaching job because of the low income. The job cannot feed teachers themselves and their families. Since teachers cannot live on their main career, they have to take extra jobs, from giving private tutoring lessons, working on rice field, trading or asking for the support from relatives.

Ry has warned that once teachers feel tired of the teaching job, they would not have the driving force to continue teaching. They would just try to fulfill their responsibility, while they do not love the career.

The information has caused pessimistic to many people. In principle, the quality of the education system would never exceed the qualification of the teaching staff. This means that with the problems in the teaching staff, Vietnam would not have a high quality education.

Meanwhile, a low quality education system would not produce good students. The modern material facilities, good textbooks and curriculums would not help create a high quality education if there are problems with the teaching staff.

Ry believes that teachers nowadays are the aiming points of the most violent criticisms than ever.

People believe that teaching is an easy job, therefore, teachers should not complain about the low pay, especially when they cannot fulfill the responsibilities assigned to them.

However, Ry has affirmed that teaching is a hard work. A survey, conducted recently on 526 general school teachers from 27 schools in five provinces, showed the terribly high number of working hours of teachers.

Primary school teachers have the actual working hours higher by 50 percent than the number of working hours stipulated by the State (40 hours a week). Meanwhile, the figures are 1.7 times and 1.8 times for secondary and high school teachers.

Ry said the figures can clearly show how hard teachers work. Besides, they have to work under the hard pressure from parents, education management officers and the society. It seems that every bad thing has been blamed on educators.

Meanwhile, a pedagogical school graduate can only earn 2 million dong a month, which is just enough for food for half a month. The monthly income of young teachers, who have just finished universities, proves to be not enough for fuel to run motorbike to school, mobile phones or parties with friends. Meanwhile, many of them have been relying on parents.

The hard work and low pay have led to many teachers suffering from serious diseases, while the modest income for teachers is not enough for them to treat diseases.

However, the biggest problem is that once teachers do not love their career and do not devote themselves to the teaching, they would not be able to produce good students and useful citizens for the country.

Source: Kien Thuc

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by Greatking

I notice homosexual is increasing alot in VN.. especially in the South...

i dun noticed at all...even now after 6yrs travelling monthly to hcm...because i dun go looking for it...

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by jackbl

50 percent of Vietnamese teachers regret their career decisions
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VietNamNet Bridge – Working under hard pressure and earning little money are the main reasons that make a half of Vietnamese teachers feel regret that they chose to become teachers.

the other 50% is not regret because they become your/our teacher?