Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by GiddlyGook
I understand this is common practice in socialist Europe (oh take your pick: Germany, the Sandinavian countries etc) - WLs enter into a "paper marriage" in which they pay a guy to marry (and later fuck off) them so they can stay and work.

Cannot do this easily in the UK though so that's why she had to go the "extra mile" and bring back the dude and all through all that charade.

In UK, there will be a dummy farang who will come back with her to register marriage and then bring him back to UK so that she can get her visa to extend.

Not forgetting the tax amount they have to pay the agents and the dummy.
My heart did felt a tinge of sadness when I heard this news the last time. Not because she got married, but felt sad that someone I once loved could actually do that.

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[siamcutey]

Originally posted by glycemia01
hey dudes....long time no see.

anyone here staying in bangkok? i will be going there next week........some tirak problems(she's gonna get married soon and according to her it's her parent's who wants her to marry).....although not worth going but i still want to go.....u know...."we're still run by our emotions no matter what ppl tell us".........i guess result of a weak mind.

Yo Bro,

So you want to meet up someone to share with him your problems? But you already made a choice, and I am sure you would be more sad when you come Thailand than staying in Singapore. Your heart tells you, I MUST COME, but your head tells you, WHAT SHOULD I DO. So no matter who you meet up with, eventually you make the choice.

You must think carefuly will you change anything when you are here. If not, I feel its best you stay behind in Singapore instead.

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[sandman101]

Originally posted by CIMKing
Most of their thinking is not u can take care of them comfortably can liao. They will not be contented.

It is the amount u can provide VS the money they can earn. IF the former is more than the latter, then u might stand a chance. And u haven't gotten to the how-she's-going-to-spend-her-life practical issues yet.

bro CIMKing,

Thanks for the important words above. Much appreciated.

[sandman101]

Just for discussion, where money is not involved (i.e. you do not give the girl money each time you see her), what does it mean? Are we just foreigners who are a welcome distraction from their life's routine?

Originally posted by siamcutey
Yo Bro,

So you want to meet up someone to share with him your problems? But you already made a choice, and I am sure you would be more sad when you come Thailand than staying in Singapore. Your heart tells you, I MUST COME, but your head tells you, WHAT SHOULD I DO. So no matter who you meet up with, eventually you make the choice.

You must think carefuly will you change anything when you are here. If not, I feel its best you stay behind in Singapore instead.

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If I were him, I will still go. Rationally knowing that he can't change anything will not stop that urge to go. For me, only when I go and see for myself...then will I really get the idea. And the next time if this happens again, there will be no more conflicts between heart and head. Because by then, I would really have understood the situation. Hope bro glycermia01 comes round to it with the least possible pain and disappointment.

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by sandman101
Just for discussion, where money is not involved (i.e. you do not give the girl money each time you see her), what does it mean? Are we just foreigners who are a welcome distraction from their life's routine?

hahaha, a very coincidence when me and a group of friends were talking on the point of no money involved yesterday night.

As every scenario is different,
First of all, you must ask yourself, which other areas you are actually giving her money in. Of course, we don't talk about food all this. It would be a bastard to say that we shouldn't even give them the minimum amount to eat and survive.

2ndly, do you think she appreciates the things you have done for her in life. There are some who actually offered to help their tiraks in some of the finances. There's actually nothing wrong in it. But it comes to a point when the Thai Girl behinds your back starts to say, "C'mn this cheapskate only give me so little, how is it enough for me to survive? He really thinks I am no longer working. Yes, I am not working, as this is even easier money than opening legs." The least decency that anyone wants here is the little appreciation that he deserves but he didn't get it. He only got it through the mouth of the Girl, but not through her heart. She might tell you the jewellery she got from you is beautiful, but behind your back, she will tell her friends, "this thing is fucking cheapskate. My so-and-so sponsor before that has given me a bigger one and he thinks I am going to stay with him for life."

3rdly, my ex tirak never asked me for money for more than a year. I did offer her help, but deep inside I knew she doesn't need as she had a big chunk of savings from her tour in GL. For that I was lucky in a sense. But slowly I began to realise what she really needs in life. She doesn't need love. She always tell me she is still young and wants to make the most out of her prime time so that she can buy the things she want in life. Condo, house. I always tell her, in life we must be contented with what with have, etc, but I think she really never got in into her head.

In layman's terms she just wants to make a fast buck while she can. Imagine she ask me whether I will wait for her after she comes back from her tour of duty. I told her, last time she was already in it, so I was in no position to ask her to stop. But now if she has a choice to really stop, she wants to go back. For me, my answer to her is simple. You go back to the trade, I can't be with you anymore. She was trying to test my line.

Initially when we communicated by email I was thinking of telling to come back to me when she finishes her england trip. But then another part of myself just keep ringing the bell saying she can do this to me once, she can do it another time. So my part was , FUCK IT.

Where were the times she told me she simply hate the trade? All this hatred of her work can be erased by fast money. The reason she may be with me, she just feel lonely at times and need company. They need someone to love them. But doesn't mean they will do back the same thing back. So at the end of the day, do you think you get the appreciation you want.

I know many love to compare thai girls with singapore girls. In the past I do that, but slowly I realised they are brought up in different cultures and the way they love their persons is very different. So I wouldn't really say SGp girls are materalistic going for the 5Cs, because even the Thai Girls have their own objectives in life. The kind of environment one is brought up to a certain extent determines what kind of person they will grow up to.

Sad fact in life but this is something we got to accept it.

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[siamcutey]

Originally posted by CIMKing
If I were him, I will still go. Rationally knowing that he can't change anything will not stop that urge to go. For me, only when I go and see for myself...then will I really get the idea. And the next time if this happens again, there will be no more conflicts between heart and head. Because by then, I would really have understood the situation. Hope bro glycermia01 comes round to it with the least possible pain and disappointment.

Next week, I will still be here though. Sometimes i do feel very sad for people when they say their tiraks are getting married but not to them. But I hope it will be a life-long experience which he remembers down memory lane as this is something we don't get in school text books. Some people wake up, some live in self denial for the rest of their lifes asking WHY WHY WHY? Sad but true.

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Originally posted by sandman101
Just for discussion, where money is not involved (i.e. you do not give the girl money each time you see her), what does it mean? Are we just foreigners who are a welcome distraction from their life's routine?

In my case, I ask myself why does the 2nd ger still expect me to call her everyday when she's in London? When she cannot derive any monetary benefits from me? When she dun even expect me to visit her becos she knew abt my work commitments and the expensive ticket to go there.

I ask myself why the 3rd ger brought me home a second time and still wanted me to go visit her again. When she clearly does not love me and we can hardly communicate half the time (my terrible Thai and Glan is not that fantastic yet). When she finds every excuse not to sleep together with me in her house. She would rather sleep in the living room.

My conclusion can only be that I'm a foreigner who is a welcome distraction from their life's routine. If I allow myslef to think further, who knows, maybe they really see me as a friend? But the idea is that I know it's never beyond that, whatever sweet words they tell u.

Just a friend,
CIMKing

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by CIMKing
In my case, I ask myself why does the 2nd ger still expect me to call her everyday when she's in London? When she cannot derive any monetary benefits from me? When she dun even expect me to visit her becos she knew abt my work commitments and the expensive ticket to go there.


Just a friend,
CIMKing

Tell her frankly, you are just a poor useless chap who can't provide enough for his tirak as what her gf's friends could. But you still miss her and hopes she can send some money over to you to tide over your hard period. She is now making big bucks where Short time is 60 pounds start for 30 mins. She could well afford to call you back, and remember to give her your bank account so that she can TT you some money.

If she ever did that, give it as offerings to the Gods to build her karma. She needs lots of it.

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[thaiboy]

Originally posted by liketoplay
thank you for contributing your experience and advice. will open my eyes wide but its too early to say that I've been a fool.

Don't be too confident!!!! you are in the drama series chapter 101.

[liketoplay]

Originally posted by thaiboy
Don't be too confident!!!! you are in the drama series chapter 101.

if you know who she is and know anything abt her which I dun , will appreciate a pm from you.
thanx.

[kanasai]

Originally posted by siamcutey
The theory as to how she get her 2 year visa will be at the and had to be sent back.

My motivation to learn thai is when at one time at the beach with Nana, I told her I want to learn thai to communicate with her. She told me I can't. Thai language is very hard and I will not be able to do it. Last time she can talk on the phone in thai while I am beside her. Now no one dares. One thing I learnt, if your tirak can speak English, Japanese, Cantonese or whatever languages quite well, the chances are she could have been to England, Japan, Australia, Bahrain, HongKong, Macau, etc. There are some who can even speak dutch well. Their saying is i learnt from school. Load of crap. The only way to learn the language well is when you are at the country using it and applying it every day. Most GL girls can speak Chinese and Hokkien very well.

Now I can speak the Thai Language. next year will be the time where I seriously get down to reading and writing it. The day when I accomplished that, I will read out to Nana the thai newspapers. My personal accomplishment where she said it was impossible.

hahaha
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hmm...i salute your determination to learn.

[siamcutey]

Have you guys seriously asked yourself what kind of guys these girls working in night life really like?

Goody goody boy, good background, rich, flying career? Do you really think they love this kind of man?


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[kanasai]

then???

[siamcutey]

Girls in the night life circle, FLs, WLs, PRs, etc, they basically work during the night. The day time is left for sleep. People who work 8-5 normally sleeps in the night. At many a times, these girls expect of having a good man in their life. But when this good man appears, they will start to know this kind of relationship don't really work out for them. They need the extra sparks in life. The man where can keong (hokkien), playful(the cheeky kinds), the man with a kind of bad attitude. But these so called "bad guys" will not give them the luxury the life, they can only provide the fun. The "good guys" can give them the luxury but do not understand what they like. Thai man can accept their wives working in MPs, why men in our culture can't? It's upbringing and confucius ethics. Men can go cheong so can they, but they are 1 step smarter. They use the money of bfs to give gigolos.

I simply see too many of such cases of WLs getting money from their overseas bfs and spending it together with their toyboys. Imagine when a Thai MP girl tells you that she loves going Brew Pavilion (I am sure many of you know who cheong Ratchada know where it is) tells you that she loves going to Brew with her friends so that they can go hook some siam kias when they feel horny for ONS. You think any thai girl will simply tell you that?

Imagine you give them money and behind you they say you look like a stupid fuck and don't even know what they like.

1 Thai girl can have several sponsors at any one time. 1 sponsor 20K, 3 sponsors 60K baht. Easy money? Even easier than open legs. 1-5th of month, tirak 1 comes. 6-10th go for siam kia.11th-15th, tirak 2 comes. 16-20th go for siam kia. 21-25th tirak 3 comes. 26th-30th for siam kia. Clash of schedules of tiraks? She have something on, go back province.

These are just a fraction of some reasons.

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