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bro ... call 1372703800 小叶 ..
bro , the number missing one number , please confirm , thanks

do you have 珠海海泉湾大酒店 phone number too , thanks again
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bro , the number missing one number , please confirm , thanks
do you have 珠海海泉湾大酒店 phone number too , thanks again
sorry lar ... paiseh ...
13727023800 ....

小叶 probably can help u regarding 珠海海泉湾大酒店 ...
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sorry lar ... paiseh ...
13727023800 ....

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thanks for your prompt reply bro,
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thanks bro 阿迪达使 ,Sg guys for the information
np bro. you can use bro adidas88 contact. no issue with me! cheers!
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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

CK why u here to 抢生意?

Hope you do not mind I said this.
In view of what happen a few months back when you were rob in the ZH hotel, your agent is not a very good agent as he cannot help you at all. A good agent must be in a position to help his clients if thing goes wrong.




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sorry lar ... paiseh ...
13727023800 ....

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CK why u here to 抢生意?

Hope you do not mind I said this.
In view of what happen a few months back when you were rob in the ZH hotel, your agent is not a very good agent as he cannot help you at all. A good agent must be in a position to help his clients if thing goes wrong.
Hmmm...I beg to different cos, as describe by bro addidas, it is clearly an insider job from the hotel itself & the gong an also doesnt put an effort to capture the thief. What do you expect the agent to do? To perform the duty of gong an? However, this agent did help bro addidas to relocate to another hotel immediately and made all neccessary arrangement where already way above what an agent are suppose to do.

Besides the above, during my March trip, I suppose to meet this agent in CP but last minute he unable ot make it cos a singaporean, whom is his friend cum customer, had passed away in Zhuhai & he is helping the family to settle all necessary arrangement & documentation plus waiting for the deceased's brother to arrive Zhuhai to identify the body.

All the above may be nothing to some but when it does happen to you, this kind of help is very valuable. Hence, I trust this agent is a good agent. Cheers...
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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

It is ok if we have different expectation and opinion of what is expected of a "good" agent in this type of incident. Below is copied from the internet about a similar incident@ lucky hotel CP. I am not trying to promote any agent here, but good agent should have some leverage on the establishment ie the hotel.

But you are right, I do not know the agent and is not in a good position to pass this opinion/comment about him. I should restricted my comment to the specific incident only. I take note of my error and will try to improve ok? hahha

I believe we both have posted the comments in good faith and without any malice; nevertheless some who are 'pang tang' or superstitious may find your last para 刺耳; Hence I wish

You and Everyone here good luck and good health, and none will ever need help on these matters.




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Hmmm...I beg to different cos, as describe by bro addidas, it is clearly an insider job from the hotel itself & the gong an also doesnt put an effort to capture the thief. What do you expect the agent to do? To perform the duty of gong an? However, this agent did help bro addidas to relocate to another hotel immediately and made all neccessary arrangement where already way above what an agent are suppose to do.

Besides the above, during my March trip, I suppose to meet this agent in CP but last minute he unable ot make it cos a singaporean, whom is his friend cum customer, had passed away in Zhuhai & he is helping the family to settle all necessary arrangement & documentation plus waiting for the deceased's brother to arrive Zhuhai to identify the body.

All the above may be nothing to some but when it does happen to you, this kind of help is very valuable. Hence, I trust this agent is a good agent. Cheers...
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好運酒店老板用心維護商譽、新幹線負責任的態度....bluejay替同行失錢友表達感謝之 意~~ ....

2009.01.08bluejay於CP好運酒店客房失竊現金
PS:為了讓鄉親明瞭以下用語盡量以台灣用語來形容

01.08晚上新幹線小胖接獲bluejay大大告知發生失竊事件
小胖隨即陪同處理找來休假以及下班的酒店部門經理與網管一干人到凌晨兩點多
當時小胖與bluejay大大要求房卡判讀使用記錄釐清事件真相
酒店主管宣稱房卡系統老舊不知可不可以判讀
據我方瞭解:好運總經理休長假中.兩位酒店主管來好運任職不過是2~3年時間
加上2~3年來從未使用過判讀紀錄.因此不知到房卡系統能不能判讀
當時因房間有妹妹無法立即報警處理只能隔天報案

01.09酒店網管陪同bluejay大大到派出所報案
酒店提供當天監視錄影帶~影帶中有嫌犯正面清楚人像
小胖持續要求酒店主管聯絡深圳房卡系統商聊解房卡判讀狀況
本日由好運老闆總經理證實可以判讀以及向深圳系統商聊解需另外購置判讀機一部
小胖要求酒店立即購買判讀機(當時得到回覆判讀機12日由深圳寄出)

01.11下午小胖陪同bluejay大大向酒店索取當天監視錄影帶
酒店網管回覆當天監視錄影帶找不到了

01.12據了解公安局當天發佈嫌犯圖像通報(酒店提供訊息)

01.13小胖向酒店取得案發當天監視錄影帶

01.15判讀機送來了
小胖陪同酒店人員對案發客房以及被害人當天所使用的三張房卡進行判讀
當場證實嫌犯並不是持被害人三張房卡進房偷竊(對此要特別說明)
15.16.17三天小胖參與判讀所有房間電子鎖發現
嫌犯是持另一張房卡進入.最詭異的是此張房卡並沒有開過其他房的門
近年來新幹線好運每月房量600~900也從未發生過客房偷竊事件

01.19兩位可能涉案的酒店人員被送到公安局進行偵訊筆錄

01.20好運老闆接獲酒店主管調查報告後大怒隨即下令所有主管春節停止休假
同時指示先給被害人兩千元慰問金.再視公安調查結果而定
經我方建議除了兩千元慰問金外還要退回當天房費650



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2008年某月CP金X酒店被房客以房間失竊現金以及財物為由向酒店索賠50萬RMB
此事件搞很大鬧到全CP酒店業都知道
另外近幾個月來在中元街三角公園附近又有犯罪集團利用假媽咪招攬客人至華潤步行街一帶民房看美 女為由
一進房馬上出現數名男子持刀恐嚇交出房卡以及保險箱密碼提款卡密碼...
CP??????QQ??????????
此犯罪集團以台胞跟星馬人士為目標成功作案多次.上個月又有我方住好運客人被搶(當天報案目前 已破案)
中元街及常朗大道一帶所有酒店都發生過(雖已破案抓到幾個人但是目前還有其他團夥用相同方法作 案中)

因上述兩個案件讓酒店在案發時多了一份心
雖然小胖極力保證我方客人純粹是受害人但是酒店堅持等判讀結果出爐再做打算
為使事件持續調查下去小胖盯緊判讀機何時送達.當判讀機送到時並全程參與判讀
同時小胖也根據判讀結果指出兩位可能涉案的酒店人員

當1月8日事發時小胖就跟bluejay大大承諾過我們會持續處理
小胖隨時把狀況通知我(人在長安).然後我再跟酒店協調溝通
整個事件從頭到尾我們一直盯的很緊才能讓事實一步一步明朗
這幾年來我們處理過千奇百怪的事件非常聊解大陸人做事不同於台灣人
只能先順著他們的思維方式延續下去然後再從中提出質疑事情才會有結果
否則只會碰到打太極拳說官話以及迷糊帳最後當然是不了了之
相信bluejay大大在意的不是那些錢而是一口氣
酒店人員推卸責任的處理方式以及變來變去的說法讓人覺得冤妄受委屈
其實每家酒店遇到這種事都一樣先打太極再論道理

新幹線處理此事件已經有初步結果不知bluejay大大
對初步結果滿不滿意?
對好運還有什麼要求?
對新幹線有什麼要求?


這款的用心經營的酒店及旅行社,我沒理由不支持 ......Orz.....
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CK why u here to 抢生意?..
dun liddat said lar ... me only helping friends to get more business mah ..
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Hope you do not mind I said this.
In view of what happen a few months back when you were rob in the ZH hotel, your agent is not a very good agent as he cannot help you at all. A good agent must be in a position to help his clients if thing goes wrong.
i agreed with uncle coolmanks abt the good agent points ...
i must clarify that xiao ye did his part on that incident ....
IMO ... he have tried his best ... he was with me all the time until the wee hours and he arrange to transfer me to another hotel ...
as for the theft ... i believe he is really in no position to do much ...
the hotel have displayed total declination on the case and put the blame on the thieves ...
in all respect .. the hotel shld bear full responsibilities shld anything to their guest in their hotel .. but this is not the case ..

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But you are right, I do not know the agent and is not in a good position to pass this opinion/comment about him. I should restricted my comment to the specific incident only. I take note of my error and will try to improve ok?
nope ... i believe uncle coolmanks have bring out a good question becoz it is constructive ...
it clears up all the doubts ...
everyone is entitle to his own comments becoz everyone think differently ..
the crucial part is whether the comments is constructive or destructive ..
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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

bro coolmanks,

it is ok, i dont get a single cent helping out the brothers here. just giving some information as my gf is a tour guide. hotel booking prices are very transparent in zhuhai, and hence have very low margin, so dont expect lots of service here, especially since the numbers of room booked are usually low compared to tour groups.

i have asked her to concentrate on doing golf packages instead where she is more familiar and usually have a higher margin where her forte of providing excellent service can be put to better use.

i got zapped many times when i ask ppl to give tips, note: tipping is a very common practise in china, where if the service provided to you are really good, you tip. It is hard to explain this here as most singaporean has taken good service for granted and like to complain when good service are not provided. IMHO , in china, if you got money, you get good service.

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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

Adidas, thanks.

Maybe I am too demanding.....but to me a good agent must be more than just efficient in the booking. When incident happened, his client needed help, he must help and be able to help. If he is not bother at all ...then he is really BAD. From what you posted, he tried very hard to help so he is ok at least.

But he does seen fairly helpless, meaning he has no leverage or at least know how to talk to the hotel mgt to get thing done. Same for the gongan; he has no relationship or know how to deal with them.

Even our new agent in CP know the important of developing contact with the Gongan. During my last trip he very casually mentioned that he just meet or have a meal with them.

And the above are only my personal opinion.

Ok ....back to TCSS again......



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dun liddat said lar ... me only helping friends to get more business mah ..

i agreed with uncle coolmanks abt the good agent points ...
i must clarify that xiao ye did his part on that incident ....
IMO ... he have tried his best ... he was with me all the time until the wee hours and he arrange to transfer me to another hotel ...
as for the theft ... i believe he is really in no position to do much ...
the hotel have displayed total declination on the case and put the blame on the thieves ...
in all respect .. the hotel shld bear full responsibilities shld anything to their guest in their hotel .. but this is not the case ..


nope ... i believe uncle coolmanks have bring out a good question becoz it is constructive ...
it clears up all the doubts ...
everyone is entitle to his own comments becoz everyone think differently ..
the crucial part is whether the comments is constructive or destructive ..
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Maybe I am too demanding.....but to me a good agent must be more than just efficient in the booking. When incident happened, his client needed help, he must help and be able to help. If he is not bother at all ...then he is really BAD. From what you posted, he tried very hard to help so he is ok at least.

But he does seen fairly helpless, meaning he has no leverage or at least know how to talk to the hotel mgt to get thing done. Same for the gongan; he has no relationship or know how to deal with them.

Even our new agent in CP know the important of developing contact with the Gongan. During my last trip he very casually mentioned that he just meet or have a meal with them.
i agreed with u on that pts but considering xiao ye being a small agent in ZH .. he really cannot do much ...
me too .. is a demanding person but i am also fair ...

btw .. who is that new agent in CP ??
looks like he really know his job well and laying his foundation right ...
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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

Bro,
I was just joking with CK about the 抢生意 part. It must never intend to be a serious discussion.
Thanks for reminding me that China is somewhat like discount airline...prices are low; but don t expect lots of service........

And your ideas of concentrating on Golf group is a good idea.....

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bro coolmanks,

it is ok, i dont get a single cent helping out the brothers here. just giving some information as my gf is a tour guide. hotel booking prices are very transparent in zhuhai, and hence have very low margin, so dont expect lots of service here, especially since the numbers of room booked are usually low compared to tour groups.

i have asked her to concentrate on doing golf packages instead where she is more familiar and usually have a higher margin where her forte of providing excellent service can be put to better use.

i got zapped many times when i ask ppl to give tips, note: tipping is a very common practise in china, where if the service provided to you are really good, you tip. It is hard to explain this here as most singaporean has taken good service for granted and like to complain when good service are not provided. IMHO , in china, if you got money, you get good service.

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the hotel have displayed total declination on the case and put the blame on the thieves ...
in all respect .. the hotel shld bear full responsibilities shld anything to their guest in their hotel .. but this is not the case ..
I'm not sure what happened. Can know which !@#$%^& hotel is that?
I would like to avoid in future.
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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

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Re: Macau or Zhuhai

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I'm not sure what happened. Can know which !@#$%^& hotel is that?
I would like to avoid in future.
珠海国泰酒店不可住

allowed me to explain the above sentence ...

i checked into 珠海国泰酒 on 22th sept evening ard 6pm...
after doing some unpacking and rest, i went out for dinner and shopping with my colleagues at the ZhuHai Port Plaza ...
Upon retrunring to my hotel room at ard 10pm .. i realise my room was broken into and my notebook was missing ...
fear immediately invaded me and i rush to check the room safe box ...
fortunately it was not broken into ...
call the front desk and report the incident ... some security guards and a manager came to my room to inspect ...
they then check the hotel security camera in the security guard room situated at the side of the hotel ...
after viewing through the video, we saw 2 men went into my room empty handed and after abt 7 minutes later, exited the room carrying my notebook covered with the laundry bag and putting into a lady accomplice who was waiting at the lift lobby .... all these in clear view from the security camera ..

upon further viewing the security tape, we realise the lady accomplice was loitering in the hallway corridor earlier for a few minutes trying to break into the hotel rooms ...
she tried a few rooms but didn't manage to get in ...mine was the unfortunate one ...

the hotel reported to gong an and though the police station was a 5 minutes walk to the hotel, it took them more then an hour to be there ... dressed like some thugs and wear slippers ... they dun look any bit like a policeman ...
it's big embarassment to the Chinese Police ...

my hotel room have no sign of force break-in ... which means the theives managed to get into my room using similiar hotel room card ...

OK ... to make the story short ... we immediately check out the hotel and check in to Charming Hotel ...

This is unbelievable ... but believe it ....
The hotel have deny all responsibilities regarding the break-in ... they stated that the thieves uses high technology to break into my room and thus we cannot blamed the hotel for negilience ....
They refused any compensation to me .... but offer me a few FREE night stay in the hotel .... WTF, do u think i will want to stay in this hotel again ??

my colleagues said this gotta to be a inside job ....
they even bring up the subject that the hotel could be a 黑店 ...
how can the security guards missed seeing the lady thief loitering along the hallway corridor going from door to door ???
And no hotel will deny responsibilities for such a incident ... but this hotel gracefully and conveniently did ...and without any remorse ...

I believe it is the hotel responsibilities to protect their guests ...

Thus i would advise all not to stay in this hotel for ur sake ...
i cannot imagine if they were to break into my room while i was sleeping in the middle of the nite if i forgot to latch from the inside ...


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