Heart broken....

[hurts]

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

Sis hurts, in your stand I can see the word por. I do understand why you feel that way. I am not angry with you as I did see thru your lens.

This part I understand.

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

Give yourself a chance as not much harm will be done.

Giving myself a chance to see thru your lens you mean? If that is what you meant, I will say I try hard to view things at both side in every situation,判官则清。

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

I did learned a couple of things from him and not ashamed to admit.

I do learn a few couple of things from every posting including his posting too but it will come tricky to apply what you learn, your degree of understanding on each and everything counts.

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

We are born with nothing into this world

Agree,I always think it should be 人之初，性本无，instead of 人之初性本善

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

so whatever you learned along the way will be yours and no one will be able to take it away from you.

Yes yes, agree.

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

Unless you are unable to accept and shut yourself in the world you are in, I believed I will no longer required to say much as the doors only allow passage out but not in.

活到老学到老，knowledge is power.

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

If you managed to understand, even though there are differences in your positions, a different point of view do helps to see things better. You will stand to gain and nothing to lose.

Consider my questions.
1)What is everything?
2)Ask yourself if you really saw everything?

你问倒我了，我只能说判官者清，用一个判官则的角度来分析应该是俗语全部吧？

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

I can tell you, Dage DYBJ and I did exchanged a series of firings before but we are on talking conditions and we knew each other better. If there is a need to proof our cross firings, I will be glad to show you but the pms will be processed with discreet contents omitted.

Hehe, this one very pnc lea. But good la you all manage to be on talking condition and click well now.

[<<totally>>]

Originally Posted by hurts

要东西决绝终究还是要面对处理，死亡的选择全在于你自己，选择用死亡来逃避是愚蠢的终究还是决绝不了问题反 而还是个很不负债认的行为。

就如你说的终究要面对，可是人已死还要如何面对. 他的问题是没有解决可是他还是可以逃避吖~所以你不可以说终究还是要面对处理. 你的言语用词不正确.

Originally Posted by hurts

这句我不明白。translation please.

What I'm trying to say is the phrase you suggested cannot be make valid as I did indicated a case of exception. In programming language if there is an exception error, you can 'catch' the error and make the program work.

Do you need me to use a mathematics language to prove. I believed I can use Mathematical induction as a form of deductive reasoning. Do you wish to see my induction hypothesis? In chinese language, since what you suggested cannot be made valid for all cases, so I feel I have a need to stop you from adding that line of yours you written in this post.

All the comments that I have came as a neutral party. If I do take sides, the strength of my language will not be so bow.

[hurts]

现在我明白了我的言语用词不正确. 让我修改一下

逃避不是个决绝的办法，逃避是个很不负责认的行为。只有积极面对，承认错误，改正错误才是个决 绝的办法 make sure you never commit the same mistake again and learn from your mistake... Mm..

[<<totally>>]

Originally Posted by hurts

判官则的角度来分析应该是俗语全部吧？

I have to say a judge point of view is bias. For it has to follow a set of rules and regulations. So is it everything?

I think I 'got' you. Why did I suggest the 2 questions? That is what I have learned when I was having the cross firing sessions with DYBJ. I thought I have seen 'everything' of the situation, however what he suggested to me never occur in my mind as a possibility. So I innovated my theory of looking at things.

Originally Posted by hurts

Hehe, this one very pnc lea. But good la you all manage to be on talking condition and click well now.

All I can say is if at the expenses of a private argument can really open you up, both DYBJ and myself should not mind given the fact that editing is done. Why am I keeping it, it is to serve as a remainder for myself and be thankful of the things I have learned from a fellow bro. But who knows that it has another usage. Nobody know we ever had cross firing, I saying it for your sake in order to prove my stand as neutral and to counter your comment on the 'por'.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by hurts

逃避只是战时的决绝办法到总就还是要去面对

U see, when one discusses, i dun wanna use debate here, many of their thoughts and emotions are expressed most vividly to one's ability based on their very own understanding of things and how it should be in their own perception.

This is where, understanding of one's inner mind workings are revealed.
That said, when these are clearly illustrated out, you can see how apply their way of thinking and thus, from their mental state, knowledge, wisdom they reveal, understandings of the world we all dwell in, you will roughly get an idea of what segment they belong in society, how they fit, where they belong.
U may say it's stereotyping, yes it is.
In all our environments, we interact with many people from all walks of life.
But by interacting, we know where we stand, and also, we know where they stand and belong.

This is gonna be a long one, been a very long time since I wrote something this long, but my only hope & wish is, those who read it, understand it, can gain a better insight of the world around us, how it should be view, the way it should be viewed, not the way we want to or wish to view it, thus the application of my term earlier：
黑是黑
白是白
你要把黑看成白
这是你的选者能力和自由
可是
黑还是黑
白也还是白

The notion of:
逃避只是战时的决绝办法到总就还是要去面对
As seen from dear sis's hurts eyes, is valid.
Yes, from her point of view, but it left an open ended conclusion.
Also, if give more opportunity to evade the situation on a more prolonged basis than to confront and cross this so called LIFE's HURDLE.
Here is where wisdom is born or destroyed.
By facing a hurdle and crossing it, one gains wisdom and it they ever face it again, they'll be more than ever ready and will cross it like a piece of cake.
One who practices escapism will always, resort to the same action and conclusion everytime such a situation is met or impending.
Life doesn't stop there, many many more will come, escape one, escape 2 very soon, they will still be where they were when they started out and life will get more and more difficult to face everyday.
Most if not all such people, belong to the COMPLEX category people.
Thus the term, mental maturity.
Without learning and overcoming our difficulties, how can we, do we ever learn and its from learning, that we achieve mental maturity and wisdom.

Example:
I am so lost, so hurt, I gave everything to her and she left me.
I am so devastated.
Out of 10 replies, you will see at least 3-5 that will tell him:
Get a new pussy or fuck more pussies till you forget about her.
Is that wisdom?
Imagine a person saying that, what is he or she portraying?
An empty shell.
Escaping from the fact that this just happened and you can fuck ur way till you forget?
If one can do that, i only hv one question.
Do you have a conscience?
Amazing isn't it?
U read it in almost every new thread in Matters Of The Heart.
But if one learn from what he did wrong, they can be:
1) He was too possessive
2) He was too controlling
3) By doing so much and giving in to everything to him was love but gave her insecurity instead
4) He was blind cos he chose her maybe cos she had big boobs, big ass, chio but he forgot about her characteristics all displayed in many threads in this section of the forum
By facing them, instead of whining, or blaming her non stop, he can improve in his next relationship and also, this time, mark my words, his selection process will have a longer checklist than earlier.
Y so?
Cos he faced it n learnt from it.
If he whined or fucked more pussies to get over the last incident, what do you think he gained?
The answer is obvious >> Temporary sextisfaction cos when he goes home, he again will be tormented by emotional distress which results in not zero but infact, negative.

Here's another example:

Originally Posted by hurts

now today, is a fresh new start, I've quoted and reply you because you challenge me to.

It's only an example not personal attack
In ur eyes, it's acceptable, but in reality, it's finding an excuse to do and achieve what you wanted to and set out to achieve
So again, the term
黑是黑
白是白
你要把黑看成白
这是你的选者能力和自由
可是
黑还是黑
白也还是白
So if you look at my siggy which I always use, isn't it obvious that you already
The 4 Golden Rules in life:
1) 不要欺骗自己
2) 不要出卖自己
3) 不要背叛自己
4) 不要对不起自己
They are all linked, u do one, you already did them all.

Originally Posted by hurts

要东西决绝终究还是要面对处理，死亡的选择全在于你自己，选择用死亡来逃避是愚蠢的终究还是决绝不了问题反 而还是个很不负债认的行为。

Your reply to this is totally off context, as bro totally was trying to explain, not in literal as per 死亡, but as a form of escape but you decided to apply to face on an infinite date, so his notion meant an excuse to justify escapism just like the example i used of ur post of an excuse that it's a new day so everything said yesterday has passed.
So again, if we apply this
The 4 Golden Rules in life:
1) 不要欺骗自己
2) 不要出卖自己
3) 不要背叛自己
4) 不要对不起自己
U will see it has happened

Originally Posted by hurts

勇敢面对的人是能在社会上生存的人也是个成功的例子。因为他们敢去面对掺绔的事实接受失败，把失败改正成功 。

Yes, these people, 9 out of 10 are all successful people.
Why, because they learn and cross barriers they face in life, so their paths are always smoother for the battles they faced, earn them wisdom that can be carried like armour everytime they walk into or face another battle ahead.
These are people whom the complex will shun upon, tale bear at, spew lies at.
It happens all around us everyday.
Just like when that TS said he drove a "S" class, so be it.
But look at how many whacked him for saying what car he drove?
Is there a crime to drive a "S" class?
I only can say, i bet everyone of those who whacked him couldn't even afford an "E" class and by that, you already know what segment of society these people come from.

Truth is painful, it hurts when they see people do better, live better lives than them.
The right way for anyone to correct this, is to look at themselves and how they can improve themselves to on day, do as well as or even better.
Who are those who always 埋怨 about this and that?
No secret, under achievers and 110% sour grapes!
But then, this is where the tern looking thru their lens come to play.
If u looked from their eyes n think from their mind, it makes sense.
But then again
黑是黑
白是白
你要把黑看成白
这是你的选者能力和自由
可是
黑还是黑
白也还是白
So by their actions, instead of doing the right thing to improve their personal well being, they decided to be a sour plum, aren't they doing
The 4 Golden Rules in life:
1) 不要欺骗自己
2) 不要出卖自己
3) 不要背叛自己
4) 不要对不起自己

Thus, also part of my siggy
The Choices We Make, Dictate The Life We Lead!!!
That's why, there will always be leaders and followers.
From all these, I hope there will be a deeper understanding of ur own internal workings

Now u understand better how one's psychological state can n will affect their sociological

[hurts]

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

I have to say a judge point of view is bias. For it has to follow a set of rules and regulations. So is it everything?

I thought I have seen 'everything' of the situation, however what he suggested to me never occur in my mind as a possibility. So I innovated my theory of looking at things. both DYBJ and myself should not mind given the fact that editing is done. Why am I keeping it, it is to serve as a remainder for myself and be thankful of the things I have learned from a fellow bro. But who knows that it has another usage.

You got me really anticipated now, I really want to see what have enlighten you so much in between the private argument you had with do_you_bj, what another side you see and what is the side of him that you never see, and I want to see if I could see "everything"like what you seen.

if you don't mind could you please ask the permission from mr do_you_bj. This concern the both of you, you may agree to show it to me but he might not.

I will take it as a case study, first case study ever since I graduated so long.

Originally Posted by <<totally>>

I saying it for your sake in order to prove my stand as neutral and to counter your comment on the 'por'.

Mmmm. When I see "everything" from the pm I will then take back the word "por" I commented. I'm sorry if it offended the both of you.

[<<totally>>]

Originally Posted by Ichigo_Kurosaki

I guess you are right cos I don't really know Dage DO_YOU_BJ very well, only this 1-2 months, often see him in threads

I will try to see using his lens and perhaps learn a thing or 2 from Dage

Bro IK, I'm just relating my personal experiences with Bro DYBJ as I did exchanged hands before. It's not about right or wrong but the matter of time to know Dage DYBJ earlier or later. Hehe~

Originally Posted by Ichigo_Kurosaki

人生一世，如草生一秋。是匆匆而麻烦的短暂。活得糊涂的人，容易幸福。活得清醒的人，容易烦恼 。
難得糊塗: 聰明難、糊塗尤難、由聰明轉入糊塗更難，放一著、退一步、當下心安，非圖後來福報也。

Bro IK, 好一句"人生一世，如草生一秋" 来自《增广贤文》. ”惧法朝朝乐，期公日日忧。人生一世，草生一春“. 我也想分享一下，因为太长的缘故，有兴趣的可以到这看. 非本人文章可是感触一致.
It is my pleasure to know another master.

[hurts]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

U see, when one discusses, i dun wanna use debate here, many of their thoughts and emotions are expressed most vividly to one's ability based on their very own understanding of things and how it should be in their own perception.

This is where, understanding of one's inner mind workings are revealed.
That said, when these are clearly illustrated out, you can see how apply their way of thinking and thus, from their mental state, knowledge, wisdom they reveal, understandings of the world we all dwell in, you will roughly get an idea of what segment they belong in society, how they fit, where they belong.
U may say it's stereotyping, yes it is.
In all our environments, we interact with many people from all walks of life.
But by interacting, we know where we stand, and also, we know where they stand and belong.

This is gonna be a long one, been a very long time since I wrote something this long, but my only hope & wish is, those who read it, understand it, can gain a better insight of the world around us, how it should be view, the way it should be viewed, not the way we want to or wish to view it, thus the application of my term earlier：
黑是黑
白是白
你要把黑看成白
这是你的选者能力和自由
可是
黑还是黑
白也还是白

The notion of:
逃避只是战时的决绝办法到总就还是要去面对
As seen from dear sis's hurts eyes, is valid.
Yes, from her point of view, but it left an open ended conclusion.
Also, if give more opportunity to evade the situation on a more prolonged basis than to confront and cross this so called LIFE's HURDLE.
Here is where wisdom is born or destroyed.
By facing a hurdle and crossing it, one gains wisdom and it they ever face it again, they'll be more than ever ready and will cross it like a piece of cake.
One who practices escapism will always, resort to the same action and conclusion everytime such a situation is met or impending.
Life doesn't stop there, many many more will come, escape one, escape 2 very soon, they will still be where they were when they started out and life will get more and more difficult to face everyday.
Most if not all such people, belong to the COMPLEX category people.
Thus the term, mental maturity.
Without learning and overcoming our difficulties, how can we, do we ever learn and its from learning, that we achieve mental maturity and wisdom.

Example:
I am so lost, so hurt, I gave everything to her and she left me.
I am so devastated.
Out of 10 replies, you will see at least 3-5 that will tell him:
Get a new pussy or fuck more pussies till you forget about her.
Is that wisdom?
Imagine a person saying that, what is he or she portraying?
An empty shell.
Escaping from the fact that this just happened and you can fuck ur way till you forget?
If one can do that, i only hv one question.
Do you have a conscience?
Amazing isn't it?
U read it in almost every new thread in Matters Of The Heart.
But if one learn from what he did wrong, they can be:
1) He was too possessive
2) He was too controlling
3) By doing so much and giving in to everything to him was love but gave her insecurity instead
4) He was blind cos he chose her maybe cos she had big boobs, big ass, chio but he forgot about her characteristics all displayed in many threads in this section of the forum
By facing them, instead of whining, or blaming her non stop, he can improve in his next relationship and also, this time, mark my words, his selection process will have a longer checklist than earlier.
Y so?
Cos he faced it n learnt from it.
If he whined or fucked more pussies to get over the last incident, what do you think he gained?
The answer is obvious >> Temporary sextisfaction cos when he goes home, he again will be tormented by emotional distress which results in not zero but infact, negative.

Here's another example:

It's only an example not personal attack
In ur eyes, it's acceptable, but in reality, it's finding an excuse to do and achieve what you wanted to and set out to achieve
So again, the term
黑是黑
白是白
你要把黑看成白
这是你的选者能力和自由
可是
黑还是黑
白也还是白
So if you look at my siggy which I always use, isn't it obvious that you already
The 4 Golden Rules in life:
1) 不要欺骗自己
2) 不要出卖自己
3) 不要背叛自己
4) 不要对不起自己
They are all linked, u do one, you already did them all.


Your reply to this is totally off context, as bro totally was trying to explain, not in literal as per 死亡, but as a form of escape but you decided to apply to face on an infinite date, so his notion meant an excuse to justify escapism just like the example i used of ur post of an excuse that it's a new day so everything said yesterday has passed.
So again, if we apply this
The 4 Golden Rules in life:
1) 不要欺骗自己
2) 不要出卖自己
3) 不要背叛自己
4) 不要对不起自己
U will see it has happened



Yes, these people, 9 out of 10 are all successful people.
Why, because they learn and cross barriers they face in life, so their paths are always smoother for the battles they faced, earn them wisdom that can be carried like armour everytime they walk into or face another battle ahead.
These are people whom the complex will shun upon, tale bear at, spew lies at.
It happens all around us everyday.
Just like when that TS said he drove a "S" class, so be it.
But look at how many whacked him for saying what car he drove?
Is there a crime to drive a "S" class?
I only can say, i bet everyone of those who whacked him couldn't even afford an "E" class and by that, you already know what segment of society these people come from.

Truth is painful, it hurts when they see people do better, live better lives than them.
The right way for anyone to correct this, is to look at themselves and how they can improve themselves to on day, do as well as or even better.
Who are those who always 埋怨 about this and that?
No secret, under achievers and 110% sour grapes!
But then, this is where the tern looking thru their lens come to play.
If u looked from their eyes n think from their mind, it makes sense.
But then again
黑是黑
白是白
你要把黑看成白
这是你的选者能力和自由
可是
黑还是黑
白也还是白
So by their actions, instead of doing the right thing to improve their personal well being, they decided to be a sour plum, aren't they doing
The 4 Golden Rules in life:
1) 不要欺骗自己
2) 不要出卖自己
3) 不要背叛自己
4) 不要对不起自己

Thus, also part of my siggy
The Choices We Make, Dictate The Life We Lead!!!
That's why, there will always be leaders and followers.
From all these, I hope there will be a deeper understanding of ur own internal workings

Now u understand better how one's psychological state can n will affect their sociological

I really spend my time reading this meaningful post twice, its the best post I read and each and every paragraph I read strongly imprint on me. I've seen through what you are trying to bring a cross. you've clearly analyse the both side of viewing things it really make me see it clearer but end of the day 黑永远是黑白永远是白. I don't need to look through the pm anymore. This post is clear enough.

I'll apply the 4 golden rules in your siggy, keep it in mind as a constant reminder if I break any 1 of them means I've break 4 of them. It links, no matter how I try arranging it still link.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by hurts

I really spend my time reading this meaningful post twice, its the best post I read and each and every paragraph I read strongly imprint on me. I've seen through what you are trying to bring a cross. you've clearly analyse the both side of viewing things it really make me see it clearer but end of the day 黑永远是黑白永远是白. I don't need to look through the pm anymore. This post is clear enough.

I'll apply the 4 golden rules in your siggy, keep it in mind as a constant reminder if I break any 1 of them means I've break 4 of them. It links, no matter how I try arranging it still link.

Yes my dear, I hope you got the essence of this lengthy post n it was written with all sincerity.
This is what i will term, the path to mental awakening.
A clear mind is a dangerous mind and also, a very powerful mind that people will fear or respect.
The price for such a mind is, there will be no room for in between
Glad it made the intended impact on u

[hurts]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Yes my dear, I hope you got the essence of this lengthy post n it was written with all sincerity.
This is what i will term, the path to mental awakening.
A clear mind is a dangerous mind and also, a very powerful mind that people will fear or respect.
The price for such a mind is, there will be no room for in between
Glad it made the intended impact on u

Yes and thanks, I can feel real sincerity when I read this post. Anyway good night to you and bro totally. However, I will like to say today is a brand new start, do everything right once and things will be smooth today. wishing both big bro having a smooth and wonderful day. Something I would want to add on to everyone that is reading this "I'm not ladyrain"!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by hurts

"I'm not ladyrain"!

This is termed 有完没完
And for the last time, i repeat again, it wasn't me who made that statement vomit blood

[hurts]

Ouch ouch ...

[hurts]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

This is termed 有完没完
And for the last time, i repeat again, it wasn't me who made that statement vomit blood

yes I know it isn't you that made the statement, now before I sleep I would want to clarify the fact that I'm not ladyrain . Gam xia

That is for EVERY READER IN THIS FORUM, esp to csiteam1 that make the statement.

[<<totally>>]

Originally Posted by hurts

You got me really anticipated now, When I see "everything" from the pm I will then take back the word "por" I commented. I'm sorry if it offended the both of you.

Your everything is definitely not acceptable for I did mentioned with editing done. I do not even need to ask Bro DYBJ and I can rejected. So if you choose not to believe, without 'everything' then no choice but to let things remain this way.


I do sensed that you might think that the cross firings were something I cooked up, thus I decided to show it in another manner. What you get to see is more than enough to prove our cross firings a couple of weeks ago. I just let you see that we did exchanged quite some mails before coming to a conclusion.






The 'por' do not matter, for I did say I see thru your lens. If you take back the 'por' , it is only a bonus and be seen as a handshake of friendly gesture to me.

The word sorry is "too much" for me to accept as I merely did nothing but to type a few words.

[<<totally>>]

Bro DYBJ, paiseh once again for I did not wait but to show the cross firings that happened in secret. I raised my bets to the max as what you once said something like that to me：“ Wa bro, must play till so big meh, showhand by giving a screen shot."