AV is targeting on the FLs in this Forum

[Cheonging101]

Anyway, 1st of all, definitely got AV posing as bros here. That, or some OKTs- who are jealous of the popular FLs getting too much attention at ridiculously low pricing- created accounts, wrote fake FRs, grabbed contacts from us and handed them over to the AV.

Anyway, saw this Wikipedia thing on Prostitution... Sibei cute, this sentence "The bars in Duckston Hill also offer sexual services."

I wonder who wrote that article... Really bo standard...

Originally Posted by TanChinKu

Did you check if the OKT side got kanna or not?

So far, only Freelancers got caught. OKTs and the girls under them all safe. Really make me suspect if OKTs and AV got any linkage or not... Suspect only hor! Although we all know that civil servants also human but our garment thinks, and wants us to think, otherwise.

[aturbo]

Hi Bros,

with or without the "call contract" the AV can still arrest the FL...just that with it it is easier for them to make the arrest. no mention of $$$ doesnt mean no offense committed.

Gals hanging around GL would have deemed to have broken immigration laws therefore they will be brought back to cantonment and then to immigration dept to have their visas revoked.

AVs have long been using the fishing strategy for the past many years. ie. sending out several male AV officers to hook streetwalkers and then bringing them back to the hotel rooms to have them arrested so this is nothing new. As for FLs in the forum, I believe this maybe the 1st time. Since they have the "fishing operation" in progress they might as well call a few of the sbf Fls to unknowingly show up (make sense?) kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Some advice or tell tale signs you might like to advise your gals which are:

1. Room already booked in advanced so no need for them to register at the check-in counter and no transaction exchanged for the room.

2. Refusal to go to other hotels and insist on a particular one.

My 2 cents

[Hong Qigong]

Originally Posted by Cupnoodle

http://thesbf.shop/3533475-post556.html

From the victim of that AV operation in Geylang Lor 20 : 13 street walker, 13 caught in the room, 8 FL from SBF. Total of 34 gals were arrested and sent to Bedok station. Majority of them got deported out of SG. There were at least two room used by the AV, one for the bait and another for the storage of catch. FLs from SBF were call up to the bait room, and once convicted, they were kept in another room. AV are quite versed with individual FL thread in SBF. The AV guys keep calling FL from the two pages of FL name list with contact! Their name will be highlighted when caught so that AV know the score...

Wow they sound very organised. Looks like these AV fellows have network greater than those from my begger sect.... ho ho ho

[pineapple_99]

Originally Posted by Hong Qigong

Wow they sound very organised. Looks like these AV fellows have network greater than those from my begger sect.... ho ho ho

maybe we should give out the numbers of the AV so bros here can be more careful.

but on second thoughts, the AV should not be so bo liao and inefficient to use sbf fl numbers to call one by one which i find it rather ineffective and time wasting.

if our home affair really use this low hand methods i really have doubts in our nation security.AV have good records of keeping our sillypore clean(so far) and they should be more genius in cleaning up silliypore.

if not this news lead to our famous sin ming or wan bao, AV will be famous for a while. i dun think they will want their reputation down the drain branding them inefficient and waste tax payers money.(not forgetting they book hotel also use our hard earn taxpayers money)

just my 1 cents worth opinion.without prejudice.

[pineapple_99]

Prostitution is not illegal in Singapore

The government recognised that many women come into Singapore on social visit passes with the intention to work, voluntarily, as sex workers. But Ho stressed that unless they posed a nuisance to the public by brazenly soliciting on the streets, no action would be taken.( so if they dun stand at street then they should be fine.so why AV need to call them and fish?)

Ho's statement alluded to a mental shortcut that I have personally seen: an automatic association between prostitution and trafficking. Some people make that connection, even those who otherwise have quite liberal ideas about sex. Probably they see commercial sex work as something tawdry and humiliating. They can't imagine themselves doing something like that, and then assume that others feel the same way. It's as if one says, "Since I can't bring myself to do this, if she is really doing this then it must surely be against her will."

[TanChinKu]

Originally Posted by Cheonging101

So far, only Freelancers got caught. OKTs and the girls under them all safe. Really make me suspect if OKTs and AV got any linkage or not... Suspect only hor! Although we all know that civil servants also human but our garment thinks, and wants us to think, otherwise.

Oh... that means they are in the same cahoot? Hmmm.. now I be making some enquires.

[didisong2]

Originally Posted by Cheonging101

Anyway, 1st of all, definitely got AV posing as bros here. That, or some OKTs- who are jealous of the popular FLs getting too much attention at ridiculously low pricing- created accounts, wrote fake FRs, grabbed contacts from us and handed them over to the AV.

Anyway, saw this Wikipedia thing on Prostitution... Sibei cute, this sentence "The bars in Duckston Hill also offer sexual services."

I wonder who wrote that article... Really bo standard...



So far, only Freelancers got caught. OKTs and the girls under them all safe. Really make me suspect if OKTs and AV got any linkage or not... Suspect only hor! Although we all know that civil servants also human but our garment thinks, and wants us to think, otherwise.

bro, you are outdated....before this geylang lor 20 incident, there are already a few AV raids on the OKT's gals. You got to read more on the SBF...Thais gals and PRC gals was nabbed in their hotels during those few raids. they even got some of the runners and okts.

[style.whist]

Originally Posted by aturbo

Some advice or tell tale signs you might like to advise your gals which are:

1. Room already booked in advanced so no need for them to register at the check-in counter and no transaction exchanged for the room.

2. Refusal to go to other hotels and insist on a particular one.

problem with this is that this is the modus operandi of many bros here; for example I always pre-book the room and sms room number, and I always insist on certain better transit hotels

Originally Posted by pineapple_99

maybe we should give out the numbers of the AV so bros here can be more careful.

well av can easily change numbers, but then again this is a good idea. speaking if which, I have 1 number with me ...

Originally Posted by pineapple_99

i dun think they will want their reputation down the drain branding them inefficient and waste tax payers money.(not forgetting they book hotel also use our hard earn taxpayers money)

this is nothing compared to GIC's screw up with Lehman ....

[pirahna]

Originally Posted by Wooden_Handle

I think the AV thinks they above the LAW in this issue once it started to raid transit hotels. In other countries, police raid in any private property (that is Hotel 81) must have special permission by a judge and written documents.

That would be a search warrant. However, in S'pore a police with the rank of ASP and above is a walking warrant. So no documents needed.

[style.whist]

Originally Posted by RegularJoe

personally, i find it very odd to have to discuss about the service fee with the FL during the fuck session...afterall, we all know what the damage is from this SBF...

so, there's no reason for anyone to be talking to the FL about $$ before the session...

so, let's advice our FLs what they can do to prevent themselves from being trapped...in any case, i am sure whatever we write here, AV can read it...so it wont be some big time secret...but a matter of "teaching" our girls how not to fall into the AV trap..

here goes...the girls must NOT do this

a) do not discuss money with client, especially when FL and client have not started physical with each other
b) even during physical, should not need to discuss too, as client should know damage from SBF...weird to have to talk $$ again right...
c) shd the question of $$ come up...FL should just say "what are you talking about? I am insulted" and walk away...

now, we need to understand the reason for the AV to ask the question "how much?" and the need for an answer... this is call Contract, which needs an "offer", an "acceptance" for a promise of a "consideration" (which is the $$ payment) ....any of this 3 items missing, there's no contract established...


to be more precise..this is how a contract is formed..

AV asks : "how much?" ...technically, this is NOT an offer but an "offer to trade"
FL : "$xx"....technically, this is the "consideration" AND made the actual "Offer" (in other words, she has solicited a client)
AV need not answer...becos, AV will charge the FL under "illegal solicitation" but if he says "ok, agree " then it is an "Acceptance" and hence a Contract, which is illegal in this instance, is created...

ok, so, now we know why the FL should never answer the "how much?" question, in the first place at all...

d) job done...client pays...you would think that there's now a case...BUT AV is NOT allowed to FUCK or even touch the FL...

so, usually, once the client strips and touch FL....it is quite safe that chap is not AV...

a caveat....however, i am not a lawyer or legal professional....so, please do not take my words as gospel truth....without first making your own assessment...

PS : by the way, as a "good" FR posting habit...i think we all really do not need to state which hotel...it does not add any quality to the FR but only causes more headaches for everyone...

ok bros, based on regularjoe's post and with some other input from other posts, I have drafted a SMS template in Chinese and forwarded it to some FLs. I have asked them to forward it to their sisters. It contains many useful pointers. Obviously I can't share it with bros here (it's a Chinese SMS) and it would be too unsafe for everyone to forward a SMS to your number. So I leave it to the FLs and their network to distribute it.

If you chance upon a FL and upon talking to her she tells you about this SMS, please ask her to forward you the SMS so you have a copy of it, and hence can forward to other FLs. I hope this works. I think this is fair and square, a perfectly legal way to give some advice to the FLs.

[funtime]

Originally Posted by TanChinKu

Oh... that means they are in the same cahoot? Hmmm.. now I be making some enquires.

Possibly .... given the fact that so many OKTs are still around after 5 years and are providing incall services. AV can easily raid them but dunno why dont want.

[RegularJoe]

thanks bro style for upping my points...hahaha... you nice chap with that chinese sms stuff...good lah...then we can continue to have our ECA....sui !!!

[ricky69]

To my underdtanding, the AV basically targeting regardless whether streetwalkers or FL in this forum. Many PRC WL working in the legal house went back to China as complaining few business after coming here paying a high agent fees. Their price are not cheap like $100 and $150. Many of us may not afforable compare to FL for only $70, $60 or even $50 only.
As many WL left and the bosses of the legal house wanted to register for new but was rejected by AV. The AV understanding this will not help and first they got to cramp down the FL issue before they release new application. FL.
Look like more raids expecting coming weeks.

[Hot&Spicy]

Anyway 1 tip for the FL u can tell them, Try to meet up with the cust and book a new room,hence u dont ever know what inside the room like the bros here say they hide in the toilet
This will only reduce the risk but it not 100% safe,cause they can alway change method of approaching FLs and use differ methods
Also bros wont kanna FLs areoplane or wait for 10-30min in hotel for nothing.Also if it dinosaur bros also can reject on site instead of hotel+reject fee.
Maybe there will be prankster but still better then a AV

[style.whist]

Originally Posted by Hot&Spicy

Anyway 1 tip for the FL u can tell them, Try to meet up with the cust and book a new room,hence u dont ever know what inside the room like the bros here say they hide in the toilet

good idea but provided the hotel staff don't buck up with AV sia