I shall take note of the very good advice by Bro WB too.
Thanks bro WB for this great thread.
Have a nice week ahead.
Bro, hv a great weekend.
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Originally Posted by fujian
Bro WB
Reading your thread gives me excellent in-depth knowledge of relationship and understanding more about my ownself.
I have plenty to learn from you and experts, gurus, etc.
Below are excellent meaningful words that can be the key to open the girls door locks.
What does every chio woman want n need from a MAN?
1) She needs to be respected by his man as a special n unique individual.
2) She needs to hv intimate, emotional communication n bonding w/ her man.
3) She needs an exciting man to make her feel beautiful, sexy, sensual, feminine...
4) She needs hot n passionate sex w/ her man. She wants to be seduced, enticed, teased n satisfied over n over again. She wants to experience new ways n new adventures n she wants to hv her sexual fantasies fulfilled...
I strongly believed I will be much better after reading.
Thanks for comprehensive topics in your thread.
Bro, tks.
And a man w/ strong masculine character traits.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fujian
Another precious knowledge based post.
Bear in mind that money don't buy success.
Thanks to bro WB again.
Bro, tks.
I now believe a man should use 80/20 rule w/ his girls. Be 80% tough and dominant and 20% nice and caring...
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenWater
Fully agreed, money cannot buy success.
Big thanks to bro WB for this great thread.
Bro, tks.
Money can't capture a girl's heart. Actually, it's a hindrance. I hv written about this before.
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Originally Posted by macking
Bro WB
Happy New Year - oops supposingly in our forum below.
Was reading with keen interest and stumbled upon below. Then made a search and found the story of "bigwigs" who face jail time. Did another check and only served 6 months jail time granted early release. His career is finished in this tiny red dot.
Miraculously the other one acquitted but still equally bad name.
What bro WB stated correctly must possessed self-mastery. Why worry there is no gal so long you have the masculine traits.
Thanks and cheers.
Bro, tks.
These two bigwigs suffered from severe scarcity mindset. Very sad.
Healthy, heterosexual girls are highly attracted to men w/ awesome self mastery and strong masculine character traits.
Quote:
Originally Posted by macking
Bro WB
Classic example above.
Don't be too hard up and just ignre gal after making your offer.
Not easy to do but must do.
Thanks n Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Yes, ignore the girl completely after you hv stated your intention or said your magic words. Let her contact you and start chasing you...
Quote:
Originally Posted by MohdSalah
Happy New Year too!
Great thread by bro WB, hope to learn more things here.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fujian
This bro posted a great forum. Think if not wrong Bro WB called him Mr Chairman.
Read and you understood why so many foreigners came to our little country to earn moolah.
Bro, tks.
The post was a reply to bro G written in early 2012. I believe bro DYBJ is around 48-49 now? He "retired" from the night scene and immigrated to another country. I did learn a lot from him in 2009-2012. But he stopped improving because he stopped learning. Lack of self-awareness.
I did the exact opposite. I spent decades in Gotham City and now I'm back in this little red dot. It's the safest place in the world to keep chio SYTs. I'm still reading, researching, learning, searching, connecting, practicing, dreaming, theorizing, experimenting, discussing, debating, meditating, visualizing...I'm relentless.
I like to repeat my offer to bro Don Juan and to ALL samsters for merely revealing "super chio SYTs" in person to me. No need to intro to me. I just want to know what I have been missing.
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Originally Posted by beijingmei
Bro WB great advice.
After reading thru all the great exchanges understand quite a fair bit.
This is an integral process to hooking gals. Learning and practising is a must.
Hope to pick up more tips and be a better person.
Thank you to shifus here.
Cheers.
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Originally Posted by beijingmei
Bro WB
Great that you started another thread. However seem like the support in this thread is amazing.
Let's share more musings and stories of mackings.
Cheers.
Bro, tks for ur posts.
It's not where you start, it's where you finish that counts.
Nver stop improving and never retire.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ask4bj
Bro WB
“坦白地说,亲爱的,我现在一点也不在乎（你的死活" - I don't really give a damn if you are alive?
Very interesting quote and meaningful.
This proves that you achieved shifu level.
Bro Big B reply was a great forum.
Bro WB
Tour reply to him was another masterpiece.
Agreed with you that no matter how a man will not be able to conquer some girls because of bazi conflict.
Life goes on so long he had fun.
To him is the woman loss.
Cheers.
Bro, thank you!
I'm not a sifu, just a very diligent, persistent and relentless learner.
Most men hv scarcity mindset. They believe a pussy is always a price to be won. It's an achievement. There are men who hv spent 50-200k SGD on old and ugly singers (to me anyway), without seeing their pussies.
A man must hv abundance mindset. He should behave as if 100 very cute, high-quality SYTs of his type are calling him and dying to make love to him, every day.
Cheers to all samsters,
Bro WB
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“知彼知己, 百战不殆。"
得失随缘，心无增减。活在当下， 分秒感恩。
I accept whatever is happening to me at this moment. I'm relaxed, self-assured, happy, thankful, and at peace NOW.
More on my double BY: The older JR has rejected my terms, but the younger VO has hinted that she would accept my offer as she finds me trustworthy n she feels safe w/ me...
Separately, a few days ago I reestablished ctc w/ a Fujian gal XYZ who agreed to be BY-ed in Dec of 2009. The deal was not consummated cuz she insisted on getting paid once a month, whereas I said half monthly or else. Shortly thereafter, she went back to PRC for CNY, but was unable to return to SG, most likely due to her prior arrest for working at LV. She was a chio, fair n tall (170) SYT w/ a very sexy figure n nice long legs. See my post on her: http://thesbf.shop/showthre...133505&page=48
The reason I mentioned her is that I found something on her QQ which is quite illuminating n insightful:
One of my best kakis is Bro Guru who is a master of ST. I hv learnt a great deal from observing him n consulting w/ him.
Yesterday, I accepted his invitation to cheong at CD at 430PM. I met 2 gals, both young MILFs in their mid 20s, one agreed to ST n the other said No. An initial No means more money n more effort.
I left early for dinner n Guru took one of the gals for ST, his 2nd ST yesterday. We were going to join several bros at LV SH later.
After dinner, as I was driving to LV, I picked up a chio gal along Sophia Rd who was on her way to CI 3rd fl at TAM complex. She was also in her mid 20s w/ very sexy body, but not my type as her upper arms r slightly large. No doubt many bros will find her very attractive n a great bonk.
At LV, we had a great time w/ 4 other bros including the legendary Bro RB. I had a slim n chio 19 yo gal w/ perfect height (170) who is a medical student in PRC. I've qualified her n will take her out to dinner. I asked her abt 3 attributes she is proud of. A more shallow gal might say good looks, good figure n intelligence. I like her answers: 我很温柔， 善良， 孝顺。I may propose BY to her. BTW, Guru took another chio gal for ST. He is truly amazing!
At this time, I like to quote an Ang Moh expert on the complex issues of confidence, attraction, money n body language:
If pop culture teaches us anything, it’s that every woman is
unique, complex, and complicated. How is it possible to create
one system that will give you the power to attract all of them?
Sure, all women are different in some ways, but when it
comes to what women find attractive in a man, they’re a lot
more similar than you might think. Ask as many women as
you want, and the one thing they’ll all agree on is that they
love men with confidence. It’s a MASSIVE misconception that
men are confident because they are attractive – in fact, it’s
the other way around. Men are attractive because they are
confident.
But if confidence is the number one quality that women find
attractive in men, why is it that so many guys still don’t
understand what confidence really is? Most people only think
of confidence as a collection of shallow clichés they learned
from their (well-intentioned, but misinformed) mothers: “Be
yourself!” “Don’t be afraid to be who you are!” That advice
was fine when you were a kid (or if you’re like me, even then
I didn’t get it), but at this stage of your life it just doesn’t
cut it. So what is confidence and why do women find it
attractive? And the million dollar question, “How do you get
it???”
Remember our conversation about money from the last
chapter? Let me refresh your memory: it’s a commonly held
belief that women are attracted to men with money. The
reason women seem to fall for wealthy men is that humans
work on what is called a “slippery slope mentality,” which
means that our thought processes typically follow an “If this,
then that” pattern. When a woman sees a man with money,
she might automatically think “Hm…this could be the man for
me. I can have whatever I want. I will be treated well.” But
subconsciously, there’s a lot more going on than the simple
“I can get free stuff” thought process. After all, there are
lots of guys out there who would treat her well – a bum could
be the most loving and attentive boyfriend she’s ever had! –
but she’s probably not going to be attracted to them because
there are other factors at play in these situations.
Women understand that having money is indicative of other
desirable qualities that make a man valuable, including
confidence. Think back to what we went over earlier: if you have money, you probably had to work for it. If you earned
that much money working, you probably hold a powerful
position in which many people depend on you. Women
typically find the idea that a man being capable of performing
under extreme amounts of pressure to be highly attractive.
Women also like men in leadership positions because it
signifies that people follow them, trust them, and place
value on in their opinions and ideas. A man like that is able
to make other people feel valuable simply because they are
with them. Confidence, essentially, is the possession of the
ability to increase the value of others around you. That’s why
guys who don’t have money but do demonstrate this quality
are still able to attract beautiful, self-assured women.
So how do you exude this quality
when you meet a woman? Before we
talk about that, we have to examine
what’s going on in a woman’s head
when she first encounters you and
decides how attractive you are.
How does she evaluate you? How
is she able to read your personality
the way you’re reading this book?
There’s one simple thing that we
can all read naturally on the surface of everyone we meet:
body language. I won’t go into too much detail here because
body language is such an important topic that I’ve dedicated
an entire chapter to it later on, so for now just know that
humans read body language instantly and make countless assessments based on the information they gather from doing
so.
Why do we put so much faith in the messages of body language?
Isn’t it something that could easily be faked? Actually, it’s
not. Body language lives largely in your subconscious mind,
which means that you’re not really aware of the messages
it’s sending. Your subconscious mind is also home to your
emotions, so whatever you’re feeling at any given moment
tends to show automatically in your body language. Very
few people are able to learn to completely and effectively
control their body language, so it’s almost always an accurate,
trustworthy source of information about someone.
This brings up yet another important question: if body language
is controlled by emotions, what are emotions controlled by?
And if you figure out what is in charge of your emotions,
can you override it and direct them consciously and control
your emotions? Wouldn’t it be great if you had the power
to make sure that you were never nervous, never flustered,
never angry? If you could always be happy, confident, and
in control? Of course it would! And believe it or not, it is
possible. In order to do that, though, you’re going to have to
learn to hack into your brain and make it work for you.
The things that control your
emotions are your beliefs. If you
believe you’re confident, you
will be. If you believe you’re in
control, you are. If you believe
you’re worth something, if you believe you have high-value, others will believe it too. If
you don’t believe you have high value, your body language
will project negative messages instead. And because your
body language is controlled by your emotions and your
emotions are controlled by your beliefs, women read your
body language to assess what you believe, so make sure your
beliefs aren’t limiting your success........................................... .
I’m not going to pretend that redefining and reinventing your
belief system is an easy task, because for most people it
isn’t, but it’s one of the most important things you’ll ever
do. In order to be a true badass with women, every man
must get to the point where he can control his emotions to
be positive so his body language naturally falls in line with
those emotions.
The interesting thing is that women don’t necessarily read
your body language and immediately decide whether or
not they’re attracted to you. Don’t get me wrong – it does
happen quickly, but women usually wait to see your reaction
to something before making a true assessment of you. If
they can see you in a situation in which you’re being tested
in some way and they can watch your body language in that
situation, they then know for sure that you’re acting from a
direct link to your emotions, which are direct links to your
beliefs, which show them whether or not you think you're
truly valuable. The four women in the walking-down-the street
example became attracted to you based on the body
language they read from your reaction to their silence and
laughter, not your initial body language.
It's up to you to decide to have the powerful and positive belief
system that will make you attractive to women. If you don't
make a committed effort to acquire them, it won't matter
what else you learn. You could read this book a million times
and you'd still have trouble. It's not until you decide to have
confident beliefs about yourself that you will be attractive
to women. Women typically tend to be more perceptive
than men, and better at detecting lies, so they’ll see right
through you if you’re faking it. It is infinitely more effective
to create a new belief system for yourself.
.......................................
Cheers!
Bro WB
Impressive with bro WB forum above.
So many nice topics discussed and very rich content.
Always must be relentless pursuit of getting gals.
Lovely motto and mojo.
Agreed with you that our body language is crucial and the lesser we speak the best. Vice -versa female body language too tells us plenty.
Hope to learn more here.
Cheers.
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Originally Posted by warbird
My personal motto:
I'm improving myself, improving others n improving everything around me, constantly n relentlessly, in every way, every hr every day.
I hereby present my "Flow Chart" for attraction n success in every area of life.
Your Positive Belief System n Self Mastery ---> Positive Emotions ---> Pervasive Confidence ---> Positive Body Language n Actions (Regardless of What Happens n Under The Most Stressful Situations) ---> Attraction (n Success in Life)
Still worry abt ur looks, height, weight, age, status, etc when approaching a very chio gal of ur dream?
Remember this: You're very attractive to beautiful women cuz You're very confident.
Another guru talks abt the importance of body language:
An estimated 67% to 93% of human communication
(according to university researchers) is non-verbal,
and your body language reveals your internal emotional
state. Whether someone's parents just died, or whether
they just got promoted to CEO... you can tell by
observing their body language.
So, as a man who tries to pick up and seduce women,
you should be mindful of what you're communicating
non-verbally.
Body language consists of the following:
- Your movements. They should be nonchalant, as if
you're so fabulously successful that there's rarely a
reason for you to rush nor try to impress anybody.
Move through the world doing what you want and
assuming that others will follow.
- The displacement of your body. Your arms and legs
should be spread out. Don't be afraid to take up space.
- Your voice. It should have a calm, soothing, and
commanding effect. Don't speak too fast or strain
your voice.
- Your face. Keep your facial muscles relaxed. Never
tense your jaw, and only rarely should you frown or
wrinkle your brow.
- Your shoulders. Keep them relaxed like they'd be
if you just got a massage. Don't raise them up like
a nervous person.
I would even go as far as to say that you body language
is more important than anything you say, because if
your body language doesn't match what you say, then
you won't succeed with women.
You see, if you tell a woman stories that convey your
confidence, but at the same time you slump over and
fold your arms, then you come across as fake.
I've picked up women before merely through the use of
my body language. For example, a couple months ago
I was at a coffee shop that I frequent, lounging on the
couch, arms spread out, with my feet up on the table.
The mindset I had was that I felt so comfortable that it
was as if I were in my home lounging on my own couch.
It was as if I owned the coffee shop.
The net result was that a girl sitting near me put down
her book and started engaging me in random small talk.
(Whenever an attractive girl you don't know starts a
random conversation with you, you should ALWAYS
assume that she's attracted to you. This is because
women generally won't risk the whole male-female
dynamic, especially with a stranger, unless they feel
attraction.)
The conversation went on for awhile, I got her number,
called her that night, and a few days later we met and
after several hours went to her place, where I spent the
night. (We finally had sex in the morning.)
The bottom line though is that she became initially
attracted to me and approached me because of my
body language.
Now, of course body language isn't enough. You also
must have an internal alpha male mindset that's consistent
with your body language.
But make no mistake about it... if your body language
conveys confidence, then your mood will also shift to
become more confident. And have you ever noticed
how when you walk with a spring in your step, you
feel more upbeat?
Conversely, when you cast your eyes down and drag
your feet, you feel depressed. So your mindset also
follows the body language that you adopt.
So, in conclusion, be an alpha male with your mindset
and your body language. Be in a woman's personal
space and be sexual and interested in her, but at the
same time don't be needy or desperate for her attention.
Just be comfortable and enjoy yourself.
And when your body language conveys that, it means you'll
later be comfortable and enjoying yourself... with the woman.
Originally Posted by warbird;6920669
IMHO, a man's eye n facial expressions, voice tone n body language reflect his inner confidence, masculinity n self mastery, which r the most important determinants of his attractiveness to ALL women. PERIOD.
His social status, money, looks, height, weight, age, ethnicity, etc r of secondary importance...
There r many, many BIG differences between men n women.
A female sex guru just sent me an email on one of the differences:
[SIZE="5"
Hello Bro Warbird,
I want you to imagine a woman who can't keep her hands off of you,
who's eager to touch you & kiss you, who clings to your every word
and move. She enjoys rubbing her warm body against yours, even in
public places. She strokes your hair constantly, always has her arm
around you, and can hardly step away from you for a second.
Sounds pretty good, huh?
Now imagine this: A woman is with a man who can't keep his hands
off of her, who's eager to touch her & kiss her, who clings to her
every word and move. He enjoys rubbing his warm body against hers,
even in public places. He strokes her hair constantly, always has
his arm around her, and can hardly step away from her for a second.
Pathetic! He's obviously clingy, desperate, needy and possibly even
controlling!
You see, this is what men so often forget in dating and in their
interactions with women: What might be a turn on and a fantasy for
him- could easily be an attraction killer for her.
Why? Well, using the example above, the male is automatically
turned on when he's been sexually accepted and is "approved" by the
female. This is biology and evolution. However, because women have
had to protect themselves from rape, getting pregnant at a bad or
hard time, and have always had to worry about carrying & protecting
young offspring, a man who's overly clingy, too physical, or
aggressive in his touch & affection at the wrong time, comes across
as a threat.
And when a woman feels "threatened", which this day in time may be
a feeling of simple annoyance to her, she wants to get out of
there- she wants to escape.
This is also where some men get confused (especially politicians,
so it seems) and send women a nude or "naughty" picture of
themselves. The man would LOVE IT if the woman sent such a picture
of herself to him. But, unfortunately, the woman doesn't find this
to be a turn on or so exiting, and she quickly laughs at him, shows
her friends (who also get a good laugh out of it)... and possibly
even shares it with the media or police.
When interacting with women, it's very important for a man to step
away from his "male brain" and understand how women view various
actions. Because what might be wonderfully exciting for you, might
make her head for the hills...................
The woman on your side,
Ms Guru
[/SIZE]
It seems most men, including some famous Ang Moh politicians, still dun get it, hahaha.
Another example: We men love to watch explicit porn, but most women r completely turned off unless it's merely a part of a romantic story, filmed artistically.
Now I learned plenty of ways to tackle gals. I was very shy when young and totally ignorant. I wished I had read this thread much earlier and plenty to learn.
To this ang moh guru bonding is simple.
Just agree with the gal and things get done.
How I wish this is magic
Don't get me wrong because it may work.
Bye.
Quote:
Originally Posted by warbird
I like to share a msg on "Three “Bonding” Steps to Her Bedroom…" from yet another Ang Moh mentor:
Hi Bro Warbird,
Tired of feeling as if you don't know what to say to women?
Tired of watching OTHER men go home with the women you wish you
were taking home?
I would be!
I've been out doing research for you again, talking to prime,
beautiful, thoughtful women about what they REALLY want from men -
and just as important - what's been turning them off recently.
What are they TIRED of... and what YOU can do to LASSOO THEIR
ATTENTION and lead it where you want to go?
Want to hear one of their biggest complaints and how to avoid it?
Then listen up...
You've probably heard women complain that men don't "listen."
We don't. For a few reasons. We often can't follow their logic.
Or we don't want to try that hard. But usually, it's because we
are pretty convinced we have the answer to their problems before
they even finish what they are saying.
Which may or may not be true.
But truth has limited relevance here. What matters, when it comes
to enlightened seduction is FEELING. How does she FEEL about you?
What does she FEEL in your presence? From your body? From your
words.
Want a short-cut to getting her feeling strangely "bonded" to you?
I want to give you a 3 Step Magic Formula for evoking amazing
feelings of LOVE and APPRECIATION from any woman - specifically as
a way to cure yourself of the annoying "premature problem solving"
issue so many men have,
Ready?
When a woman starts telling you about something important,
something emotional, whether about work, family, friends or
otherwise, employ these 3 steps in this order:
Bonding Step 1: Mirror her words.
This means you don't ADD anything, you don't analyze, you don't
solve. You just show her that you actually heard her words and
weren't thinking about LeBron, Giselle, your quarterly reports or
wondering about the shape or color of her areolae.
So if she said, "Sorry I'm not very talkative. I had a hard day
today at work today. My boss is such an a-hole." You say:
"Sounds like you had a tough day."
Bonding Step 2: Validate her feelings.
Whatever your opinion, whatever your thoughts or observations - put
a lid on it! Step two of creating a BOND with her is to validate
that her feelings are justified. Which is a way of "accepting" her
as is, something few of us rarely get from anyone!
So if she says, "My boss just yells at everyone like their fools,
but he knows less than anyone." You say, "You have every right to
be mad at that idiot. You know more than him and he acts like he's
king of the world."
Bonding Step 3. Empathize.
Notice this is the first time "you" came into the picture here.
You have just laid the groundwork for her to feel heard (already a
miracle, in her eyes) and validated (a double miracle!" Only now
to do you up the ante by letting her know that you "feel her pain."
So if she says, "I'm just so tired of working so hard and not being
appreciated for all I bring," only now can you bring your sorry ass
into the conversation and add, "I'm really sorry you're going
through that. It must feel awful. It makes me feel like I'm losing
all my motivation just listening to you describe it."
Yes! Exactly! She will exclaim, as she grabs your knee - thrilled
to be in the presence of such a Prince of a Man, who not only hears
her, accepts her without judgment but who also FEELS what she FEELS.
That, my friend is a 3-Step Shortcut to bonding with any woman.
Short-cutting communications success with woman doesn't mean clever
quips and soaring assholery.
Communications is a step-by-step process of building trust, humor,
authority, inspiration and rapport..........................................
I congratulate you on a very successful thread here.
I will follow guru advice to maintain contact. Gals that aren't available now can get available within weeks, months or years.
Many regards
Remember your tips.
Quote:
Originally Posted by warbird
I always think long term when it comes to investing n chio pussies.
Several gals who previously had repeatedly rejected me n who wont even want to hv lunch w/ me, hv eventually become my mistresses. One noteworthy example is my 1st ever mistress who is still w/ me.
IMHO, in investing n in getting chio pussies, one needs to think long term.
A guru recently sent me a msg on 'Keep in Touch' in which he extols the virtue of long term thinking.
Hey Bro Warbird,
Most guys think short term. They think that because a woman they
like starts dating a guy or, gasp, gets a boyfriend, or even a
husband that she's gone forever.
Nothing can be farther from the truth. Women who appear to be
unavailable suddenly become available, and vice versa. Nothing is
ever set in stone except for relationships that are ruined by men.
I've had several male friends throw fits of jealousy in the past
when a woman they were interested in politely told them she'd
started seeing someone, had a boyfriend, etc.
Months, even years later, when the boyfriend in the moment (and
husbands) turned out not to be Prince Charming, these women were
not at all interested in these guys because of how they acted in
the moment.
It was sad because had these guys been cool gracious, and stayed in
touch, something interesting would have happened. There would have
been a point where they appeared to be more attractive than the
former Prince Charming, and when she dumped the boyfriend, she
would have been quite interested in him.
Here's what you have to understand about women and attraction:
time and circumstance changes everything. Most guys are morons
about women and eventually wind up screwing up what they bumbled
into.
If you are cool, if you stay in touch, if you at least appear to
be "happy for her" (even though you are probably not), when Prince
Charming screws it up (and he always does), you'll be the first guy
she gets in touch with.
Patience is a virtue in all areas, but especially so in attraction.
Now, this does not, of course, mean you "wait" for her while not
seeing other women. You live your life, see other women, and take
advantage of opportunity (any opportunity) as it arises.
One of two things will happen. Odds are she will eventually come
free and be interested in you, but if not, your chances of
attracting another, better woman in the interim are good.
Most men are caught up in the short term or feelings in the moment
with women, never thinking about the possibilities down the road.
That's why they wind up missing out when opportunity arises once
again.
So be a long term thinker. Set up things for the future. Be
patient. And when opportunity comes your way once again, seize it.
On with the fun,
Mr. Guru
He is right.
Even if ur dream gal has rejected u n/or has fallen for another man, her pussy is not gone forever. Relaxed. Be as calm as ice, be happy for her, continue to be friendly n stay in touch. Your behaviour n attitude would appear extremely masculine...n when her "Prince Charming" inevitably screws up, she will make overtures to u, hahaha.
Believe me, eating n fxking a chio pussy which was completely beyond ur reach in the past, is exceptionally delicious n very shiok indeed, hahaha.
Same, I was very shy too. Luckily managed to learn some tips from this thread.
Thanks very much to Bro WB.
Cheers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by getyourtip
Bro WB
Now I learned plenty of ways to tackle gals. I was very shy when young and totally ignorant. I wished I had read this thread much earlier and plenty to learn.
29-09-2018, 11:18 AM
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