Fetish/Role Play/BDSM in HC

[Hardtobeat]

Originally Posted by Repent-less

. . . I had tried once with Mistress Rina alone, and in my opinion she didn't even understand what is SM. . .

NOW you tell me !!! Next time post !! By the way Bro just in case you don't already know, if you do a couple of more posts you will be out of "moderation" - min is 5 posts to non-newbie-lesson forums.

Then as long as you have 15 pnts you can help others. (I got dinged, so I'm short - you can practice giving an "up" to to me when you are un-moderated !!). Then I'll be able to return the favor.

And yes - Rina was waste of time and $$ - I almost just stopped and "let's just do the massage and see you later". Lessons learned I suppose.

However I consoled myself with a trip to Paradise HC 5th Fl Far East Plaza - Stella was "stellar" - no SM, but a great time.

Good luck ! HTB

[Repent-less]

Originally Posted by Hardtobeat

NOW you tell me !!! Next time post !! HTB

Sorry Bro, I felt embarassed to do the FR - to tell other people that I had tried her. Was too desperate for good SM play.

[ydgduo]

Originally Posted by Repent-less

Sorry Bro, I felt embarassed to do the FR - to tell other people that I had tried her. Was too desperate for good SM play.

there are lots of con like her in the world, stick to SM house, they have some minimum standard. In singapore where there are no SM, so we have to stick to normal sex in geylang, where is the best in the world for pro.

I have given up having some good S&M in Singapore. Nearest is thailand if you like thai gals, and best is Tokyo Japan. There is a situation in western SM which is complex, there are two type, one type are by dominatrix which does not let you touch them sexually. The other type which have some sexual component are similar to Tokyo Japan. So, western S&M is hit and miss, depend on the dominatrix. If you think western S&M is like meninpain, highly likely that you will be disappointed. In fact post if you know there is a western sm house which do meninpain. that is such a bullshit site.

[DonCJ]

Sorry to disillusion you (again), but Men In Pain is part of kink.com and they are purely a video operation in San Francisco, they expanded from hogtied.com, and they are NOT affiliated with ANY SM House.

Do not confuse what happens in porn videos with what happens in real BDSM play.

Furthermore, you vastly oversimplify the SM world. Neither western SM Houses nor independent pro Dommes in the West are monolithic in regard to their policies. "No sex" is a legal stance, and the rule is often proven in the breach. The Scene is UK and Europe is more sexual in general than in USA, but again, there are exceptions. Ahdnin Australia/New Zealand, other ethics apply. This is also true in Thailand. I know you think Thai women are not worth your time, so you say over and over, but, fortunately most people do not agree with you.

[ydgduo]

must be my face and attitude, they never breach the rule for me. I am so sad.
even the other people who visited la siora got more sexual favour out than me. Shit i am so unlucky.

[DonCJ]

Tell us what you mean by sexual favors.

Here we regard oral worship of the Domme by the sub as routine part of session. Some subs opt against this as a hard limit but they are few. The Mistresses never suck cock and the Mistresses never get fucked. Subs are asked before session if they will want to come, and how many times in course of session of whatever duration is (3,6,12,24 hours up to 2 weeks.) The answers vary a lot. Some want to come 6 times in 6 hours (and can do it.) Some don't want to come at all. More common is to want to come only once at end of session. Or if a longer session maybe once halfway through and then again at end.

In my opinion, no bona fide Mistress offers penetrative sex. If she does she is a prostitute posing as a Mistress, of which unfortunately there are all to many all over. I don't know what the Mistresses at La Siora do but I hope they leave the getting fucked and the cocksuching to the female subs. That is what the female subs are for.

So please clarify what you mean by sexual favors. Enquiring minds want to know!

[ydgduo]

Originally Posted by DonCJ

Tell us what you mean by sexual favors.
Here we regard oral worship of the Domme by the sub as routine part of session.

yeah you bet, oral worship. pussy, breast and arse (on her(. that why i meant by sexual favour.

i get none in NYC, i get none in Europe, i got none in Japan too, except 1 only after 3 session with same mistress.

some guy here claim they got in first visit, damn ! handsome guy get more out of a session.

There are some in NYC and Europe dun even do facesitting. One in NYC dun even allow me to kiss her feet. In Europe, i met one which do watersport only with my eye cover, so that i cannot see her pussy. I pass that one.

I keep meeting mistress which view S&M as non sexual activities. There are lots of those in Europe. I met so many of those, that to me S&M is non sexual anymore. If you dun believe me, ask Paul.

Nothing against your gals, but i just prefer gals with white creamy soft skin. Very beautiful face and body. Tall and big booby type of mistress.



that why when i see meninpain, the first thing i think is, BS. it will never happen.

[DonCJ]

I agree with you that some western Dommes seem to think that nonsexual means more than nonpenetrative but frankly it's a stupid attitude. In USA particularly NYC there is a police crackdown on the MS Houses for more than a year, this has resulted in closure of Nutcracker (gone), Hidden Chamber (gone) and at least temporary closure of Rapture. Doubtless in the last year the NYC Dommes have been very wary of what they do.

La Siora also had police problems in 2008.

But I do notknow why Europe is catching this extremely unfortunate trend. I know that in Holland the trend is opposite. Club Doma is resisting going sexual but others like SM Palace are very sexual. I know the owners as they both come to have fun at CJ several times a year. SM Palace is near Endhoven. Club Doma is in Den Haag (The Hague).

Japanese prices are way too high if you aren't even going to get some flavor to save so you can lick your lips later.

[ydgduo]

It is like if you look like tom cruise in mission impossible, maybe the mistress like you, you can get what you ask for.
but if you look like tom cruise in tropical thunder, the mistress say NO.
mistress decide on the spot what they allow or not. and my experience of sm in europe, non sexual S&M is very common.

[DonCJ]

I would say 85-90% of subs want facesitting (and not through panties) and want to worship pussy, ass or both. 75% want to be pissed in or on, and 40% want "kaviar" again, some to eat and some to just wear it. A small percentage are interested in "red sauce" and an even smaller number want "roman" which the Ladies here to not do. But oral worship, that's practically vanilla and just gets kinked up by the Mistress on top and a little light smothering. Usually combined with nipple torture, or electricity.

Our former Mistress April was as you described, crazy for the handome subs and cold to the older and not so handsome ones. We all made fun of her for that as it is highly unprofessional. None of the other Mistresses are like that and anyway now that April is history, no one here is. The sub could look like Uncle Fester (and some have) and would get treated right. It's the pictures of HM the King that count. The King is always handsome. That's rule #1. Rule#2 is, When is doubt, apply Rule #1.

[ydgduo]

[QUOTE=DonCJ
Our former Mistress April was as you described, crazy for the handome subs and cold to the older and not so handsome ones.
anyway now that April is history, no one here is[/QUOTE]

OMG, your best looking mistress gone???
did she jump ship or quit S&M altogether.
yeah, i always look for the good looking mistress everywhere, Japan, EU and USA, and i always get Virtually nothing. except the non sexual activity.

[ydgduo]

Hong kong have some too.
do not look like they are very skill in art of S&M
do not think they are as good as thai sm house, which have skill and training.
but then again, better than singapore which have nothing at all.

so
try it and tell me if it is OK.
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due to the economic crisis, my business trip to around the world to taste S&M seem to be coming to an end. I am just sitting in office and waiting for the CHOP. No S&M for me for a while.

[DonCJ]

Honk Kong had a place called Fetish Fashion but the govt ran it out of business. What remains in HK is not worth talking about. Beijing's man in HK is a prude. You know, the guy with bow tie.

Anyway HK was very expensive and very British oriented SM which means lots of caning and little else.

April may have been good looking but she was no great shakes as a Mistress. You really cannot go by looks alone. As far as I know she is upcountry for good.

[ydgduo]

better than nothing in singapore.
sure they may not be skill. sure they probably pro.
but little is better than nothing, sometime.
yes my pursue of beautiful mistress may be the reason that i got less from them.

beautiful woman have gene inside their head that cause them to cheat more and repel ugly man.

[ydgduo]

Originally Posted by DonCJ

at least temporary closure of Rapture. Doubtless in the last year the NYC Dommes have been very wary of what they do.

hey doncj, what is the new rapture website??? phone number???
i was so disappointed with my debacle trip to NYC last year, i book everything, hotel and airtickets. Flew over and cannot contact rapture nyc, ask p box, and they said they were arrested. I wonder if i should spend some money to NYC again, there is plant closure (to cut cost) meaning i have some time, should i go to NYC or Tokyo??? I am still thinking. What is temp in NYC in end of Feb???
Would it be freezing cold?