MIA FARANG (Foreigner's Wife)

[cyrus]

Originally Posted by fish76

Bro, u mean a house in Thailand or in S'pore? Well I am seeing a ex WL, did it because of family like many other gals. I dun care about what happened and we are now trying to see if she can adapt to life here. I can't find a job in Bkk despite sending like 30 CVs........According to a recruitment agency, there are too many ang mohs that want to work there..........and by the way, I'm 28 and she's 25.

I'm not too sure but finding a job in BKK and earn Thai Baht ... for Sillyporean .. silly .. unless you are required by your office to station there lah.

[siamcutey]

I didn't know my comments were not taken with a pinch of salt.

Maybe I should put a disclaimer.
A Pure Coincidence if what I said happens to be anyone in here.

SC

[free]

Originally Posted by cyrus

I'm not too sure but finding a job in BKK and earn Thai Baht ... for Sillyporean .. silly .. unless you are required by your office to station there lah.

Agree.This is one track I am working on and the possibility is high. The other is of course to start your own biz (tough). The final one I am exploring has to do with the skills I have and there are companies in Thailand that may be prepared to engage me. These range from feeign companies (SG inclluded) as well as a couple of the larger Thai companies. In a way I benefitted from the FTA which is forcing many of the previously protected Thai companies to improve themselves in order to compete.

Maybe bros can also explore these possiblities

[cyrus]

Originally Posted by free

Agree.This is one track I am working on and the possibility is high. The other is of course to start your own biz (tough). The final one I am exploring has to do with the skills I have and there are companies in Thailand that may be prepared to engage me. These range from feeign companies (SG inclluded) as well as a couple of the larger Thai companies. In a way I benefitted from the FTA which is forcing many of the previously protected Thai companies to improve themselves in order to compete.

Maybe bros can also explore these possiblities

In fact everything is tough ... but the enthusiasm, perserverence and other factors will see you through, tio boh?? In general, Sillyporean are kia-soo, kia-see, kia lau lee. Always expecting lau goh's team to step in and provide financial assistance. KNN. Coming back to the topic, bro free, I believe you in the IT right? Good for you to have the know-how that these local co. can engage you leh. Me in finance .. pai-tan-chia.

[free]

Originally Posted by cyrus

In fact everything is tough ... but the enthusiasm, perserverence and other factors will see you through, tio boh??

I agree 90%. Gone thru enough in life to know that the above are critical today;s world. Not the only factors, but pre-requisites. Networking is also very important and often gives you an advantage when all else are equal. And COMPETENCE is also the key today. Being good is not enough today, for the good and faithful get retrenched. It is not even enough to be very good. Just to stay in the game, one has to be excellent in what one does. And to win, one's got to be outstanding. Learnt this from Anthony Robbins, and it is reality in today's world.

In general, Sillyporean are kia-soo, kia-see, kia lau lee. Always expecting lau goh's team to step in and provide financial assistance. KNN. Coming back to the topic, bro free, I believe you in the IT right? Good for you to have the know-how that these local co. can engage you leh. Me in finance .. pai-tan-chia.

True, Thailand not the place for Finance ppl, at least not yet. Reason why I intend to move up is that after all these years of trying to do my part for my country, I have had enough. Done somethings that put SG on the world map, but so what? U know what, quite a few of us in the industry were able to forsee the China problem (investments going there and not coming here) many years ago and told the relevant ppl so. In 1996, I was already planning for the company I was in to move to China (Putong), But the "scholars" up there tot they knew better, couldn;t care less and think we were nuts, cos we got only 1 piece of paper or even dun have any. Our country never got prepared for what is to come, so when it finally came, all kena blur. MNCs shipped out. I was even responsible for one case where I put a system in place in China, train the ppl and it worked so well (match quality/lead time here, but super low cost) that HQ decided to shut down the plant here. Decide to leave cos didn't want to go China. Mei Meis dun attract me leh.

Worse, our SMEs didn't wake up cos they were sheltered, crippled and lame, not able to think for themselves cos they either didn;t want to (depend on zheng hu), dun know how to, and the zheng hu got all the "paper-based" institutions (many a waste of time) to "help" but led them nowhere. If that is not enough, they may not be allowed to do what they want cos it is not orthordox or is in a gray area not defined explicitly in their official B&W book, blah blah. Analogous to if u dun see an U-turn sign, cannot u-turn, while in other places (LOS included), one can u-turn unless u see a sign that say cannot. How to do thing like that?

Meanwhile, costs shoots sky high. I "saw" these even earlier on when I was in Peurto Rico, but those guys would not bother. Now we are suffering as a country - of course I mean mostly the general heartlanders. But there are exceptions where middle incomers got really hit too. Today they give us a new name "technopreneur". Things are slightly better with this new title, but not much really. A lot of lip service. Look at our creative Mr. Sim. They treat him like god, roll out the red carpet for him and asked him to come & share/speak. Yet in the end they still dun listen cos what he said (perfectly correct in my opinion) is not what they want to hear so he sort of pack up and go to China to do his thingy. What can small fries like me do here?

Seen enough. Might as well go to somewhere where I can contribute, be happy and have a higher quality of life. The losses I make if I sell my home here today can buy 2-3 landed properties up there, but and that is already in the works.

BTW, my area of IT is rather specialised. One can call it Engineering IT. So happens that LOS can use or even need my skills for the forseeable future, esp the big Engineering companies who aspire to be world class. Thinking of doing work that involves imparting these skills to the engineering professionals there - done a small project funded by the Thai govt already. Several companies in mother land has already benefited with the work I have done for them, including some GLCs. Today, these success stories becomes a stepping stone & case studies for me. Glad I worked like a dog in the past & strived to be the best in my field. Today even though I am not a farang (only a kon-chin dtaang-chart), I can compete with farangs any time (usually win over them) in the area of my work, so I do have more opportunities. But I want to increase my opportunities (be outstanding) by working hard to learn Pasar Thai (speak/read/write). Guess what, from my own experience with our little one, my written thai is at the same level as a 5 yr old thai kid in kindergarten, . So we learn together, kekeke.

Having said that, I recognize LOS is a different ballgame and I have a lot to learn from the lau chiau bizmen and professionals, esp those in manufacturing (driver of LOS economy) & those already living there and doing it right. But that, I mean a good career/biz and a happy & settled family, like I hope to have with my Rain. And I am also happy to share what I know with others who think they can benefit. If we SGreans who want to go up or are already up, don't help each other, who will?

BTW, this thread should be name MIA DTAANG CHART (Foreigner's Wife) cos no angmos here at all. Haha

[cyrus]

Originally Posted by free

True, Thailand not the place for Finance ppl, at least not yet. Reason why I intend to move up is that after all these years of trying to do my part for my country, I have had enough. Done somethings that put SG on the world map, but so what? U know what, quite a few of us in the industry were able to forsee the China problem (investments going there and not coming here) many years ago and told the relevant ppl so. In 1996, I was already planning for the company I was in to move to China (Putong), But the "scholars" up there tot they knew better, couldn;t care less and think we were nuts, cos we got only 1 piece of paper or even dun have any. Our country never got prepared for what is to come, so when it finally came, almostblur. MNCs shipped out while SMEs didn't wake up cos they were sheltered, not able to think for themselves cos they either didn;t want to (depend on zheng hu) or not allowed to cos what they want to do is not orthordox or is in a gray area cos not in their official B&W book, blah blah.

Seen enough. Might as well go to somewhere where I can contribute, be happy and have a higher quality of life. The losses I make if I sell my home here today can buy 2-3 landed properties up there, but and that is already in the works.

Having said that, I recognize LOS is a different ballgame and I have a lot to learn from the lau chiau bizmen and professionals, esp those in manufacturing (driver of LOS economy) & those already living there and doing it right. But that, I mean a good career/biz and a happy & settled family, like I hope to have with my Rain. And I am also happy to share what I know with others who think they can benefit. If we SGreans who want to go up or are already up, don't help each other, who will?

Precisely why I'm planning to move up LOS, when everyone wants to move to down under or other ang moh place. Why pay so much to be a 2nd class citizen and being looked down by racist? Doing business is the same everywhere .. coz there's no right or wrong only have to think faster than others .. and shrewd (not back stabbing lah). I'm all hears to any bros here who's looking into LOS. Will likely go look see in Cambodia with a friends too.

[free]

Originally Posted by cyrus

Precisely why I'm planning to move up LOS, when everyone wants to move to down under or other ang moh place. Why pay so much to be a 2nd class citizen and being looked down by racist? Doing business is the same everywhere .. coz there's no right or wrong only have to think faster than others .. and shrewd (not back stabbing lah). I'm all hears to any bros here who's looking into LOS. Will likely go look see in Cambodia with a friends too.

Currently hatching something that ties India, Thailand, China, maybe Vietnam and Myanmar together, with LOS as the base of course. Establishing the network in these countries now. If any bros interested & think they can contribute, can pm me.

Actually I co-own a pub in BKK, but selling my equity since Rain and I not into pubs (dun drink/smoke) so might as well plough the cash into our retail shop. Actually the shop is meant for me to serve as starting base for other things to come. For her, it is also her way of catching her own fish. This one dun like to ask me for a fish everyday. Haha, I am trying to marry my fisherwoman

[cyrus]

Originally Posted by free

Currently hatching something that ties India, Thailand, China, maybe Vietnam and Myanmar together, with LOS as the base of course. Establishing the network in these countries now. If any bros interested & think they can contribute, can pm me.

Actually I co-own a pub in BKK, but selling my equity since Rain and I not into pubs (dun drink/smoke) so might as well plough the cash into our retail shop. Actually the shop is meant for me to serve as starting base for other things to come. For her, it is also her way of catching her own fish. This one dun like to ask me for a fish everyday. Haha, I am trying to marry my fisherwoman

Well, I'm not very into pubs. Can have kopi session soon to discuss leh.

[free]

Originally Posted by cyrus

Well, I'm not very into pubs. Can have kopi session soon to discuss leh.

In case anyone misunderstand, I am not trying to sell my equity here. Cos already got offer on the table from customers of the pub. That's why I thought might as well sell out since I dun like to go and she also dun like to go.

More interest in biz of a regional nature using LOS as base, or anything not centering around pubs or liquors.

[cyrus]

Originally Posted by free

In case anyone misunderstand, I am not trying to sell my equity here. Cos already got offer on the table from customers of the pub. That's why I thought might as well sell out since I dun like to go and she also dun like to go.

More interest in biz of a regional nature using LOS as base, or anything not centering around pubs or liquors.

Bro, like I say, not at all interested in such biz. But you are right about using LOS as the regional base, this is also what I'm more interested to talk about over kopi.

[cyrus]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

How about having kopi in the pub?

Kopi with whiskey ... I saw one russian guy drank before... can try out... Bro thaivisitor .. and free .. in SG now?

[free]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

How about having kopi in the pub?

Wah lau, even diet coke I got to go myself and buy a couple of cans from 7/11 then put the extra in the fridge. Want kopi somemore? But if the price is right can always arrange

[korb]

this is a good thread,just in time for me to find out some details.as my girl coming down oct to visit my parent just to know what i should do to ensure everything go smootly when going thru the airport immigrant.i ask my other thai frens they say no problem with them when going thru the airport custom but that when they came with their parent.my girl told me recently tlod me her fren was stop in the custom and ask to leave but his husband(expat)took out doc. to prove she is his legal wive then the custom let her in to sin.my girl know already say if like that nextime who want to come to sg ,every girl sespect of a pros/wl.
i got anything to proof as we still not rom yet,got to see my parent first then can followup pharse 2 .so what if she got problem in the airport any one have this experience before? btw my girl is is first time in sg and not a wl and she coming alone to stay at my house.that means everything on me so she no need any money.

[free]

Originally Posted by korb

this is a good thread,just in time for me to find out some details.as my girl coming down oct to visit my parent just to know what i should do to ensure everything go smootly when going thru the airport immigrant.i ask my other thai frens they say no problem with them when going thru the airport custom but that when they came with their parent.my girl told me recently tlod me her fren was stop in the custom and ask to leave but his husband(expat)took out doc. to prove she is his legal wive then the custom let her in to sin.my girl know already say if like that nextime who want to come to sg ,every girl sespect of a pros/wl.
i got anything to proof as we still not rom yet,got to see my parent first then can followup pharse 2 .so what if she got problem in the airport any one have this experience before? btw my girl is is first time in sg and not a wl and she coming alone to stay at my house.that means everything on me so she no need any money.

You have 2 options. One is the show money option as suggested by siamboy. This is to indicate that they are genuine tourists. Better yet, use a tour agency in Thailand to book hotel here. (Not aplicable in your case)

Other option is you be the sponsor and provide a letter for her to show to the immigration that she will be under your care while she is here. This letter will have to contain your personal particulars (name, NRIC, address + a photocopy of IC is even better) etc and you will be responsible for her return. This is the option I prefer to use. I will definitely wait for her at the arrival hall. If needed, she can call me and pass her hp to the immigration office to talk to me if she is stopped. Better yet, fly up and come down with her. Then guaranteed no problem.

[korb]

thanks khun free and siamboy, i will definitely be at the airport to pick her up. eh can ask thai embassy to write letter? but do they entertain us?nabeh give her my atm card and i tranfer fund to the account if they want to see she got money or not.actually lastime not so problematic but recently got many china wl come to sg so dun know the ica will tight up their policy or not.
oh how come some tg apply social visa,i thought thai citizen no need visa if stay not more than 30 days.

i think hor it also depend on the custom officer,some sipeh kualan like my girl told me custom reject her fren from entering sg when she come with her husband who is a expat working and living here.