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Old 23-03-2004, 11:37 AM
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exactly love and money is 2 different issue.

love will come out from money, but money don't come out of love.

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Old 23-03-2004, 02:53 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: "Family first" culture

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1 last thing. What about those gals that are not borned prettier or more beautiful? Sadly they do not have the qualities to be an FL to support their siblings to studies. But, they still try to support their siblings to higher studies too.

The girls are just making use of their body, face and youth to make the most out of it. Don't use, its a waste right?

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I totally agree with u on this pointer...I cant imagine those "Langa Lorry" face becoming a prostitude...So must they go for plastic surgery to sell their body?

Did ever spoke to a Malaysian MP WL..Her reason for selling her body is actually to retire early to enjoy life
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Re: Re: Re: Re: "Family first" culture

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Excuse me guys,



And imagine that when someone in singapore quote that his dowry price is 30K SGD, people will say wah the female side, "Lion open Big Mouth". Correct? Not to even talk about 70K SGD.

But now we are talking about 700K to the Thais as dowry and you people are saying not even thinking twice of this amount? Is it considered selling the daughter or giving 700K to the family as a form of gratitude. You guys go and think.

If today in singapore, every family is asking for 70K sgd dowry, I think marriage rate will be very very low. The guys will not be able to get married.

Giving dowry is necessary, but not to the extent of being taken advantage of.

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I immediately tell my friend when he told me about the 700,000 baht dowry..."Wah Lao..her cheebye made of diamond ah!!!"
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As a fellow cheongster myself, it always good to keep your reality in check everytime. This not only applies to Thai culture, but it applies to all WL around the world. Just that Thai girls are the best in showing more care and concern among them all. That is the reason why men around the world are so enchanted by them.
Tat one I agree..Tat type of feeling "Sibeh Song"
I cannot find Sg gals so caring & concern leh
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Old 24-03-2004, 01:34 AM
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Re: Re: Forking out $ for marriage

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Putting anythings else aside, especially if she is out to con or not, which may beyond your or my level to judge at this moment, 70,000b could build a castle (depends where is her hometown), why do you need to use money to prove your love and sincerity? Of course, unless she eyeing nothing else but your money.

Money never prove sincerity of love, but just proving you have a deep gold mine that she can live on.
Some are not only eyeing the money. But also the singapore PR and citizenship. Not to forget that in any divorce situations later on, they are entitled to 1/2 of the man's assets.

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Old 24-03-2004, 02:22 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: "Family first" culture

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Excuse me guys,

We are now talking about Thai money which is 700K baht. Equivalent to 30+K SGD.
But today we talk from their currency point of view.

700K is about 70K to what we singaporeans think. Just like you eat roadside chicken rice at 20-25baht which is like what we singaporeans eat in kopitiam at $2-$2.50 for a plate of chicken rice.

Do you guys pay a dowry of $70K if you marry a sgp girl? I am not saying whether it is right or wrong to pay that amount, but I can say is that the family is taking advantage of the situation.

If today both marrying parties are of a higher society class stature, paying a high dowry will look good on both families. Our normal middle sgp family marry off the daughter don't even take so much for dowry.

And imagine that when someone in singapore quote that his dowry price is 30K SGD, people will say wah the female side, "Lion open Big Mouth". Correct? Not to even talk about 70K SGD.

But now we are talking about 700K to the Thais as dowry and you people are saying not even thinking twice of this amount? Is it considered selling the daughter or giving 700K to the family as a form of gratitude. You guys go and think.

If today in singapore, every family is asking for 70K sgd dowry, I think marriage rate will be very very low. The guys will not be able to get married.

Giving dowry is necessary, but not to the extent of being taken advantage of.

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What, in your view, would be an acceptable dowry? (Let's limit the scope here to Thailand please) ( in Sing$)
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Old 24-03-2004, 02:33 AM
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Tat one I agree..Tat type of feeling "Sibeh Song"
I cannot find Sg gals so caring & concern leh
Probably there are Sg girls who are the caring type also. But maybe not so many as compared to some other nationalities.

I have been thinking a lot about this, and I've been going through a number of posts here. I have come to think that if a girl truly likes u (whether she is WL or non-WL, whether she is Sg or non-Sg girl), she would be caring and concerned about u, and as Siamcutey said, she would not lie or be uncontactable. I would even go so far as to say matters of religion would not be a barrier. But if a girl doesn't like u, it would be very obvious (she can't lie or put up an act forever), and she can come up with any justification (no matter how silly) to dump u.

On another point, I recall a friend telling me that a relationship takes two hands to clap, it cannot be a one-sided affair. You cannot be the one showing concern all the time.

I am no expert in Boy-girl relationships.

Are my conclusions/hypotheses correct? Anyone wants to comment?

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Old 24-03-2004, 02:37 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: "Family first" culture

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What, in your view, would be an acceptable dowry? (Let's limit the scope here to Thailand please) ( in Sing$)
In singapore, get the dowry prices you hear. Add one 0 behind and that is the how it should be.

Do not do currency exchange.

Example lets say you get $8888SGD for dowry in singapore, then in thailand should be around 88880 thai baht for a marriage lor.

Something like this. Not to far fetched like 700K baht. If its the rich marrying the rich, of course paying more represents their status.

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a little off topic here

Anyway, very tired of my current job already.......thinking of maybe writing something along the lines of Stephen Leather's Private Dancer, but a local version......will have time to do so only after I quit though.....and have the dubious honour of joining the ranks of the Singapore unemployed hahhaa......

Maybe can call it "A Singaporean Love story"....or " Geylang love" or something....or " A Singaporean's Public Dancer"......


Any bros wanna give me some encouragement on this ?

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Re: Re: Forking out $ for marriage

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Putting anythings else aside, especially if she is out to con or not, which may beyond your or my level to judge at this moment, 70,000b could build a castle (depends where is her hometown), why do you need to use money to prove your love and sincerity? Of course, unless she eyeing nothing else but your money.

Money never prove sincerity of love, but just proving you have a deep gold mine that she can live on.
Very sensible words indeed bro......as always, I find DrDevil's views a good reality-check......

Thanks for your perspective. The value of a sensible perspective is priceless.

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Re: Re: Re: Forking out $ for marriage

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Some are not only eyeing the money. But also the singapore PR and citizenship. Not to forget that in any divorce situations later on, they are entitled to 1/2 of the man's assets.

Scary.
provided if both reached till that stage, but in anyhow she and her family is happily spending the 70k buildong their "castle" liao. Having said that, I am seen couple (WL with Msia guy) married without any dowry but you still escape of feeding her family, the question is how demanding is her family and how far she willing to go all out for you.
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Re: Re: Re: Forking out $ for marriage

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Very sensible words indeed bro......as always, I find DrDevil's views a good reality-check......

Thanks for your perspective. The value of a sensible perspective is priceless.

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Sometimes no matter how careful we are. Once in a while we'll thread back the sad fuck path every now and then. Myself included. Ain't no saint.

Always have to hammer my own head. Think with big head and not with the heart or small head. Must know when to pull back to reality.
the more careful you are, the harder you will fall when you meet the right one when the time is right. No man is saint, even saint may not able resist their tempation and seduction. Play the game along using their rules, when you turn the table around, you can always see things clearer from both perspective.
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Thanks for encouragement :)

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Would love to hear your 'stories'.
Thanks for your encouragement Yomun,

really appreciate it

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Probably there are Sg girls who are the caring type also. But maybe not so many as compared to some other nationalities.

I have been thinking a lot about this, and I've been going through a number of posts here. I have come to think that if a girl truly likes u (whether she is WL or non-WL, whether she is Sg or non-Sg girl), she would be caring and concerned about u, and as Siamcutey said, she would not lie or be uncontactable. I would even go so far as to say matters of religion would not be a barrier. But if a girl doesn't like u, it would be very obvious (she can't lie or put up an act forever), and she can come up with any justification (no matter how silly) to dump u.

On another point, I recall a friend telling me that a relationship takes two hands to clap, it cannot be a one-sided affair. You cannot be the one showing concern all the time.

I am no expert in Boy-girl relationships.

Are my conclusions/hypotheses correct? Anyone wants to comment?

Darkstorm
As what I have said in the GL thread. If the girl is head over heels about you, she will do anything to be with you. Little demands will be made and any extra things you do for her will make her happier.
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