hahaha...I know who you are talking about....he thinks he can make you happy by singing you a song and thats the 1st time I hear any manager sings in a ktv....really shines on the wrong shoes...kekeke!
hahhahhaha ... then he better go and take up singing course before he do that again ....
These two i raised both hands to support! Those CCB 'Professional Drinkers" usually come and waste your drinks by playing dice with the bro. Tiu!They can easily down half bottle or more in a short span! As for the 'Doll" vendor, they are my biggest enemy in the KTV! KNN, we paid 1k or more for the gal already and somemore we got to pay extra 1-200 for a stupid cheapo teddy bear which cost 30dollar or more to produce to impress the gal. 买你妹啊！I usually instruct the DJ to put up a signage at the door that none of these nonsenses come into the room!
Very good very good... this round go up with you feel v taken care off. Must also take a photo of the signage when it is up.
Hope that I don't come off as if I "Know-it-all" as I KNOW that most of your are experienced KTV goers and most probably do NOT need my suggestions - and I offer this list basically for those who are NOT that familiar.
SEAN
V informative, I find this a v useful post. Thks for the write-up..
These two i raised both hands to support! Those CCB 'Professional Drinkers" usually come and waste your drinks by playing dice with the bro. Tiu!They can easily down half bottle or more in a short span! As for the 'Doll" vendor, they are my biggest enemy in the KTV! KNN, we paid 1k or more for the gal already and somemore we got to pay extra 1-200 for a stupid cheapo teddy bear which cost 30dollar or more to produce to impress the gal. 买你妹啊！I usually instruct the DJ to put up a signage at the door that none of these nonsenses come into the room!
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me also like to add this ...
There r only FAKE chivas liquors in CP KTV ...
totally support ... those CCB managers always come in and pretend like they know us very well and waste our drinks ...
in 818 party ... there was this CCB YH manager who turn up the volume of the sound system and started singing that sound like someone "concert" here ...
immediately i don give face and turn off the sound system ...
if it's not 818 and taikor FGG face .... i'll fxxx that manager upside down and kick him out of the room ...
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hahaha...I know who you are talking about....he thinks he can make you happy by singing you a song and thats the 1st time I hear any manager sings in a ktv....really shines on the wrong shoes...kekeke!
These are the most worst thing i hate ...... that's why i have a rather BIG issue in OUYA when some brother bought in that 'big shot' from OUYA and follow with him 5-6 big clothes guy ..... I dont care who they are , as long as i am paying the bills , i have the say in my room ......I fxxk them off my room and he is not happy but i dont bother !
Hope that I don't come off as if I "Know-it-all" as I KNOW that most of your are experienced KTV goers and most probably do NOT need my suggestions - and I offer this list basically for those who are NOT that familiar.
I also certainly do not want give the impression that I'm a cheap-skate but one of the things that always galls me when out KTV'ing is how the various managers/mommies etc,( and they've even got "professional drinkers") are always there to jack up the bill/cost to us. I don't mind spending money, but I really hate being made a sucker of by anyone.
Anyway, the Yanda seems to be moderating these days, and it may be a great time to start to set some rules with the DJ/mommie/manager - and I would suggest that you do so PRIOR to actually starting the night - to make sure that you do not get a nasty surprise at the end of the evening.
Anyway, herewith some of the things that you may want to establish before partying:
- What exactly is the price of the particular liquor to be consumed AND mixers.
- Is there going to be 10 or 15% "Service charge" to be added to bill
- What discounts from the total bill WILL be calculated - i.e. Pay in HK$ same amount as RMB, or 15% off on bills paid RMB. (FH used to do this to attract HKG clients)
- Any speciall offers like B.O.G.O. or B2G1 etc and for which particular brand of drinks, or "special Packages" where they will throw in things like a free room night or Short term room, or a package including certain number of beer and snack etc. CP KTV's often offer these "Special packages" when business is slow (mostly via Hong Kong publications/web sites etc) - and I'd imagine that with the recent Yanda, things are perhaps not all that busy yet. But you do need to ACTUALLY ASK as they for sure are NOT going to tell you about these special deals when you are already at the KTV!
- What are the 'freebies' to be given by the DJ, by the mommie/manager - free food, liquor?
- Price of the "mandatory consumables" (i.e. fruit platter, nuts, dried foods etc that's automatically placed in the room at the start of the evening)
- Are the gals REALLY obliged by management to consume certain item/drinks? And if so, what are these and how much do they cost?
- One person MUST sign off on any orders for whatever item (more than one guy have the right to order and you'll end up being over-provisioned)
- NO outsiders, mommies, managers, friends of sitting gals coming into room uninvited and partaking of your liquor - giving us face supposedly (total B.S. - The whole purpose of this is to rack up the bar bill; some KTV's even have "professional drinkers - whose ONLY duty is to go in rooms and drink drink and drink!!)
- No "vendors" of dolls, food, pop-corn, cigarettes etc coming into our room to peddle their wares - with the sitting Gals in cahoot - to pad the bill.
- How much exactly is the "minimum charge" for the particular KTV room you're going to occupy, and if such amount applies ONLY to liquor or also food ordered etc.
- Timely reminders as to the amount of the bill already racked up - i.e. when minimum surpassed, every RMB 300 thereafter etc. (The DJ in most KTV's should be able to pull up the amount already racked up on the KTV system/computer on demand)
- NO half empty glasses/bottles cleared and dumped.
- All empty containers saved for inspection/counting at end of nite.
- And if you're really particular, to outline what are the charges for things like tissues - for YES, definitely tissues are routinely charged - so - make sure you/your gals don't spill drinks - and insist that the DJ also have towels to clean up the table (free??)
- How many DJ's REALLY required for each room and exact price for @DJ - and if there's gonna be "cleaning charges" tacked on or not. (such cleaning charge is USUALLY only requested by a DJ who you're sweet on or who you want to take out with you - that instead of you waiting for her to clean up the room, you will graciously give her the RMB 50 - 100 to give to a cleaning lady to do it)
- And last, if you've unopened bottles left at end of evening - do get a "storage card" for use the next time you come back (within 1 month usually) and if you're leaving CP soon - then leave these cards with one of your friends who's still going to be there!! "Orphaned left-over bottles" are what the DJ's use to "Treat" their regular clients - that's how common an occurrence it is for guys to leave leftover bottles without getting a storage card.
But of course the above only covers the KTV bill - whilst the bigger expense would be the Gal costs; but that is a whole separate discussion ain't it? LOL!!
SEAN
Great write up ! Good info for many brother to check and follow ......
But dont you think is rather stress by checking on these and that ?
I so far had not check on item to item on bills , my mummy will check and cfm before handling it to me ..... will only go thru the bills next morning when i wake up , cos she know if she screw it ...... i will change mummy .
That's maybe why my bills are always not cheap , I am another "big water fish'' but is ok cos i am there to DESTRESS and not add STRESS .
These are the most worst thing i hate ...... that's why i have a rather BIG issue in OUYA when some brother bought in that 'big shot' from OUYA and follow with him 5-6 big clothes guy ..... I dont care who they are , as long as i am paying the bills , i have the say in my room ......I fxxk them off my room and he is not happy but i dont bother !
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Vertu did us Singapore proud in CP! Salute him!
Vertu u did the right thing indeed and help save face for us.
Too many indiots, how lian chaps, assholes, dumbs, balls carriers spoil the market there and spoil our Singapore reputation there.
prcsytlover, adidas, fei goh goh u know how siat suay u guys have been there now?
But dont you think is rather stress by checking on these and that ?
Yes, I DO have to agree that having to do all this IS a stress for the guy actually doing the checking of the bill etc. That's the reason why for the most part, I've now refused to be the one to "arrange" KTV nights and prefer for others to be the "leader." Or else, I just use an agent with specific instructions to him that I expect for him to be there to control the costs etc.
But even this is hard as the Agent DO get a percentage cut of the total bill and of course, the higher the bill is, the higher his cut! Sigh...!
But I do still "jump in" when I notice things like the DJ throwing away drinks, some bro or another being "soft-hearted" as far as dolls, candies, these "professional drinkers" and uninvited people coming in to supposedly "give face" coming in, stupid food and drink orders by girls etc is concerned; you allow one girl such leeway, its like a highly virulent disease and right away, the rest of the girls starts to act up.
And many thanks for "Upping" my points - appreciate it and I will definitely reciprocate as soon as I can. THANKS!
I so far had not check on item to item on bills , my mummy will check and cfm before handling it to me ..... will only go thru the bills next morning when i wake up , cos she know if she screw it ...... i will change mummy .
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Yes, I found that this does work - sort of - but you do need to actually train the Mommy as to your expectations, what you will/will not accept etc.
I've found that in China, that being supposedly a "good Client" is NOT what we'd expect to happen in the Western world; time and time again, "Chinese Economics" rears its ugly head and business owners, mommies. managers etc instead thinks "Hey, the guy likes me/my offering/my services so much that he comes back time and time again - he needs me and thus its OK for me to screw him a bit!!"
Yup - they actually start to think that we as a client needs them more than they need us! Strange but true and I've observed this multiple times in the many years I've been doing business in China etc. And this nonsense was all the more acute prior to the Yanda when business was so good that OY/YH KTV rooms was practically being "auctioned off" to the highest bidder some week-ends.
And this nonsense was all the more acute prior to the Yanda when business was so good that OY/YH KTV rooms was practically being "auctioned off" to the highest bidder some week-ends.
SEAN
and thats exactly why I think this yanda is doing more good than harm to us customers.....
totally support ... those CCB managers always come in and pretend like they know us very well and waste our drinks ...
in 818 party ... there was this CCB YH manager who turn up the volume of the sound system and started singing that sound like someone "concert" here ...
immediately i don give face and turn off the sound system ...
if it's not 818 and taikor FGG face .... i'll fxxx that manager upside down and kick him out of the room ...
whichever ktv u patronise, it's good to have a close manager that you know
mummy has less control over the gals
A manager can do things that a mummy can't
There are gals who threaten us before in cp saying they have secrect society links (know XLG), an influential manager will be able to help to mitigate the problem. Although this type of problem is rare but it did happen to us before.
Yes, I found that this does work - sort of - but you do need to actually train the Mommy as to your expectations, what you will/will not accept etc.
I've found that in China, that being supposedly a "good Client" is NOT what we'd expect to happen in the Western world; time and time again, "Chinese Economics" rears its ugly head and business owners, mommies. managers etc instead thinks "Hey, the guy likes me/my offering/my services so much that he comes back time and time again - he needs me and thus its OK for me to screw him a bit!!"
Yup - they actually start to think that we as a client needs them more than they need us! Strange but true and I've observed this multiple times in the many years I've been doing business in China etc. And this nonsense was all the more acute prior to the Yanda when business was so good that OY/YH KTV rooms was practically being "auctioned off" to the highest bidder some week-ends.
SEAN
Yes very true even in business.
One effective to counter that is openly let them know we are having alternate sources and make them understand that you will give more of your business to those that comply to your instructions.
Just have to keep these China men "on their toes". Be it business partners, mummies, managers, MMs, drivers etc......Otherwise very soon they will "climb all over" us.
whichever ktv u patronise, it's good to have a close manager that you know
mummy has less control over the gals
A manager can do things that a mummy can't
There are gals who threaten us before in cp saying they have secrect society links (know XLG), an influential manager will be able to help to mitigate the problem. Although this type of problem is rare but it did happen to us before.
We have close manager in YH, OY and Peninsula
Than tell the gals see who 'water'come in first lor .... Dont bother those XLG , all they want is money .... no balls !
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taikor ... can bring me to destress in ur party or not ??
since u r "big water fish'' and take care of the bill ... i will not be STRESS ...
totally agreed .... else how we can just walk into PZL and get a room anytime ...
My way of destress you might not take it leh ...... In average my every trip at least will make 1 gals cry or fine .....
31-08-2012, 09:43 AM
