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[Exciter101]

Look at the stats, seriously it is against him now.
Giving ball possession easily and bad tackles.
How much time does he need to prove himself?
Mascherano is the one we need to keep.
If you compare Momo and Mascherano, who is better?
That is an answer which a Pool fan can answer easily.
Cut the loss and get better players.

[Xgenre]

http://www.anfieldroad.com/news/2007...tml/#more-2692

I think it's possible that Rafa gets sacked. He keeps asking for money to buy players. Yet he benches these players or rotates them. Plus his team draw games or play boring football when he does so.

[ANDYSIAO14]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

http://www.anfieldroad.com/news/2007...tml/#more-2692

I like the way these two men respond to the article above...

ive cut and paste here..logical ?

zahar // Nov 25, 2007 at 1:45 pm
If Rafa goes, the owners will lose even more than any amount Rafa is asking for during this transfer window. won’t be now, but definitely by summer. All the spanish (speaking) players will leave, therefore the americans will have to look into replacing reina, arbeloa, alonso, torres, mascherano, lucas, and the others. Then, there is the 6mil reported buyout of the manager’s contract. Players have come to Liverpool on the strength of one man’s reputation and ability, and a lot won’t stay when the person they came to work for is gone. Europe is not monogenous like in America. something the owners have to come to grips with. i.e. the nationality of the manager is an important factor for which players will come with him. sacking the best manager this club has had in recent memory, to be replaced by who exactly?

Not to forget that new manager will need new players to compensate for the ones leaving, then further wait for that elusive title as new players need time to bed into the side.

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John Silva // Nov 25, 2007 at 10:21 pm
The only information we have comes from claims made by the owners, Benitez, and outsiders. There is absolutely no actual proof that Hicks and Gillett want to sack Benitez, but sadly this has not stopped the majority of people with an internet connection acting as if there is. What is sadder is the anti-American bigotry on this page, from using the pejorative ‘yank’ onwards. What is clearly true, and is shameful, is the public petulance displayed by both sides. On the plus side, performances are improving. I think Benitez, Hicks and the supporters should all calm down, show more respect to each other, and react to actual events, rather than speculative hearsay.



what say you....

[rahl]

Rather than continue to panic about the manager or bash our players, I thought it was really funny Rafa's response to the Yankee owners telling him to just coach the players. And Rafa of course repeated the phrase 10 times or so in 2 separate interviews to the press. There's a petulant boy in the Spaniard!

And of course in the video clip which was posted, Rafa is mentioned to have been in his tracksuit in the Newcastle game (?) instead of the usual tie and suit. Of course being the model 'coach' rather than manager. Who says Rafa is dry and boring?

[wolfclan]

I certainly hope the owners know what they are doing, Rafa has indeed a tough reputation, he shows it during his time in Valencia, when the owner mess with him, he walk away.

Or maybe its just some rumours that is doing their rounds. Just hope it wont be a Chelsea situation replayed at Anfield.

[rahl]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

http://www.anfieldroad.com/news/2007...tml/#more-2692

I think it's possible that Rafa gets sacked. He keeps asking for money to buy players. Yet he benches these players or rotates them. Plus his team draw games or play boring football when he does so.

Apparently you haven't read what Rafa said about money and transfers.

[sex crusader]

I think Rafa will continue to stay.Lets not forget that Alex Ferguson was having problem with the American owner as well when they took over MU.I have to agree that he has to sell inorder to buy. Stanley Park Stadium cost a bomb.

[wolfclan]

Originally Posted by KingEros

8 million pounds is definitely a lot of money to you & me, but let's look at it this way ... assuming we secure the services of Mascherano for the long term, after pocketing the 8 million pounds, who do you intend to buy as cover for Mascherano?

No answers? Arhhh ... pocketing that 8 million pounds is not that irresistably good a business deal after all, no?[/COLOR]

well true, maybe i was just looking at the 8mil pounds haha. Hopefully Momo will play better, just like in the second half of the newcastle, he was much more composed. Well just hope this is going to be our season.

cheers bro.

[KingEros]

Originally Posted by Cummon

It doesn't make sense.

Of course it doesn't ...
1) those 4 people are nobodies in football paid to drag airtime on SkySports
2) whatever underground connections with Anfield claimed by them, this tabloid reporter name is totally new to me
3) if you were the money men, would you sack Rafa but hire Mourinho ... who just got sacked by Abramovich becoz he was constantly bitching about Shevchenko & Ballack not being in his marketing list, in the first place?
4) the only factor which could be true is Rafa making this whole thing up ... so that he can still leave Anfield with his reputation & credibility intact - but wait a minute, which other club manager across Europe has made 2 Champions League finals, winning one? Nobody in continental Europe really care if he had won the BPL before, do they? So, what does he need to protect?

In my humble opinion, this is all trash-talk by Englishmen against the foreign talents who have broken their iron ricebowls ... even after not making the finals of Euro 08, the country cannot recognise in unison that they dun have any Englishman good enough to lead this English team, that they have to consider another foreigner to lead them to glory (if there ever will be)!!

But mark my words, IF the day come for the Yanks to sack Rafa ... that will be the day I quit supporting LFC too. Dun see no point in worshipping a club now in the control of dim-witted moneymen.

[wolfclan]

Originally Posted by sex crusader

I think Rafa will continue to stay.Lets not forget that Alex Ferguson was having problem with the American owner as well when they took over MU.I have to agree that he has to sell inorder to buy. Stanley Park Stadium cost a bomb.

In a way, we need the new stadium, so rather then wait till we are really out of the race, guess its better to bite the bullet now, then later rite? Of course, hopefully we wont be in the newcastle situation, big stadium, passion fans, but then team is not going anywhere......

[SKILLFULL LICK]

Liverpool co-Chairmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks have today released the following statement.

"Despite speculation in today's newspapers, there is nothing new to say.

"We had a good win yesterday and have got some very important games coming up starting with Porto on Wednesday, followed by Bolton and Reading, before Marseille and Manchester United in a few weeks.

"Both of us, together with Chief Executive Rick Parry, plan to meet with Rafa when we come over mid December to make decisions on the team's requirements at that time."


im not fans of rafa,but sacking him is the last thing i wanna see..Both parties should sit down and talk things out,besides every game looks very crucial from now on.

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by rahl

Apparently you haven't read what Rafa said about money and transfers.

I understand he's talking abt free transfers, not buying players outright. But free transfers do tend to want more wages, since the club had saved on the transfer fee. More wages may be an issue to 2 stingy, ignorant owners.

The main problem is that after asking for new players, Rafa benches them for rotation, even when the team play sucks. If you are the American owner, you will wonder why after spending so much money, these players aren't fully utilised. Babbel and Benyaoun starts more games on the bench than on the pitch.

Originally Posted by KingEros

2) whatever underground connections with Anfield claimed by them, this tabloid reporter name is totally new to me

He has been writing quite a lot of articles on Liverpool. Been reading this articles on many occasions on www.anfieldroad.com. He doesn't write trash or give wild opinions.

From Soccernet: Reds row escalates as owners hit back at Rafa

Liverpool's American owners have again pointed out that they do not intend to discuss future transfer targets with manager Rafael Benitez until mid-December.


Co-owner Tom Hicks last week told Benitez to 'quit talking' and concentrate on coaching after the Spaniard publicly revealed frustrations at a lack of progress in planning for January recruitment.


Yet Benitez again alluded to his desire to make headway well in advance of the opening of the transfer window after Saturday's victory at Newcastle and suggested Hicks and partner George Gillett did not understand the football transfer market.

Hicks and Gillett, however, seem equally defiant and say they will not be discussing future funding until they next travel to Liverpool for the Premier League clash with Manchester United on December 16.

A statement posted on the club's official website, www.liverpoolfc.tv, on Sunday evening read: 'Despite speculation in today's newspapers, there is nothing new to say.

'We had a good win yesterday and have got some very important games coming up starting with Porto on Wednesday, followed by Bolton and Reading, before Marseille and Manchester United in a few weeks.

'Both of us, together with chief executive Rick Parry, plan to meet with Rafa when we come over mid December to make decisions on the team's requirements at that time.'

Reports have claimed that Benitez's relationship with Hicks and Gillett has broken down and that he could soon be set to leave Anfield.

Benitez called on the pair to back him with funding in the summer and they responded, allowing the club to recruit the likes of Fernando Torres, Ryan Babel and Yossi Benayoun at a combined cost of around £45million.

Former Valencia boss Benitez has been in charge at Anfield since 2004 and has twice guided the club to the Champions League final, winning it in 2005. They also won the FA Cup in 2006 but the club's wait for a first title since 1990 continues.

They are currently six points behind Barclays Premier League leaders Arsenal and face a crucial Champions League group game against Porto on Wednesday, when defeat could end their hopes of reaching the last 16.

[rahl]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

He has been writing quite a lot of articles on Liverpool. Been reading this articles on many occasions on www.anfieldroad.com. He doesn't write trash or give wild opinions.

Bro, don't you realise that all those people - fans, media and enemies - who dislike Rafa or hate Liverpool are having a go at it now that there is something they can stir up against the club?

All these posts on SB don't say anything about Liverpool or what is really happening out there between the manager and owners; it says a whole lot about the fans.

Is there nothing more about supporting Liverpool other than over-scrutinising and over-analysing every bit of information and misinformation out there in the press and Net?

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by rahl

Bro, don't you realise that all those people - fans, media and enemies - who dislike Rafa or hate Liverpool are having a go at it now that there is something they can stir up against the club?

Is there nothing more about supporting Liverpool other than over-scrutinising and over-analysing every bit of information and misinformation out there in the press and Net?

Bro, Rafa himself voiced his dis-satisfaction at the pre and post match interviews. We didn't hear from someone close to him or some enemy/fan/media that he is unhappy. We hear it straight off from his mouth. The replies from the owners are official replies, not made up by some reporter. So how is it possible to dismiss the news as gossip? This rift isn't gossip.

As a liverpool supporter, shouldn't we be concerned that the manager is having difficulty with the owners? Look at Jose. He did well as a manager yet got sacked for being at odds with the owner. Shouldn't we be concerned that 2 jokers who dun understand the transfer window bought our club? Shouldn't we be concerned that the americans are far and slow to react to the needs of the club?

[coolfire69]

Sorry... Double-post...