The Edge Of Reason - Part 1

[knowntender]

Originally Posted by Krungthep Lover

I'm not worried about her making a fuss, but rather her not-too-friendly looking friend who was waiting for her.

As for the pic, I'll like to keep it to myself for now, I hope you understand.

KT Lover, the battle is to make her not-too-friendly friend to be friendly to you.

Let's say you took your tilac and her friend to the seafood place in Ratchada and showed some jai dee gesture along the way. Barring lesbian stuff between your tilac and her friend ( way too many surprise in Thailand...better well prepared ), her friend was likely to find an excuse to leave after the meal, and you could have your tilac for the night.

In case any oddity came up in the restaurant like her friend showed jealousy or signaled your tilac not to go with you, then you were really in a tough battle.

I know you may see such set-up to be too idealistic. But think about it...these are P4P ladies....you showed yourself generous and trustworthy.. your tilac wanted to stay with you... no lesbian complication. So what else could stop you ?

The threesome thing that I mentioned earlier was only a slim possibily. You don't want it anyhow.

This is probably a better approach in your future pursuit.



Knowntender

[Krungthep Lover]

Originally Posted by chuwit

Your chances will go up for a 'date' if you had given a decent tip.



You have to understand MP girls are not obliged to entertain you outside their working hours. Besides she only met you once.

By doing what you did. You are making her to lose face in front of her friend. I am not too sure how much you understand about Thai culture. I feel your gesture was uncalled for. Certain matters cannot be rushed. Imagine your occupation is a fisherman. The more nets you cast the more catch you will receive. On bad days you don't even have a single catch. No worries. Laid back and chill. What is yours will be eventually yours.

OK, will try your suggestion about the tip. I usually give some depeneding on how good the service was. However, this time round I thought better not as I didn't want to send the wrong signals. Maybe I should have offerred and see how she reacts to it. Point taken.

And another thing, no one knew what was happening except the 2 of us. I did not raise my voice or anything. In fact, everything was done pretty quietly. She can choose not to tell her friend if she wanted. Like I said, maybe I was a little too harsh doing what I did and I regretted it afterwards. I'll apologise when I see or speak to her again.

[Krungthep Lover]

Originally Posted by knowntender

KT Lover, the battle is to make her not-too-friendly friend to be friendly to you.

Let's say you took your tilac and her friend to the seafood place in Ratchada and showed some jai dee gesture along the way. Barring lesbian stuff between your tilac and her friend ( way too many surprise in Thailand...better well prepared ), her friend was likely to find an excuse to leave after the meal, and you could have your tilac for the night.

In case any oddity came up in the restaurant like her friend showed jealousy or signaled your tilac not to go with you, then you were really in a tough battle.

I know you may see such set-up to be too idealistic. But think about it...these are P4P ladies....you showed yourself generous and trustworthy.. your tilac wanted to stay with you... no lesbian complication. So what else could stop you ?

The threesome thing that I mentioned earlier was only a slim possibily. You don't want it anyhow.

This is probably a better approach in your future pursuit.



Knowntender

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'm likely to continue to pursue this gal the next time I'm in BKK. I've been toying with the idea of flanking the issue and paying for a session with her friend to see if I can discover "what lies beneath". Getting friendly with her friend as well is another option, but I don't want to appear like a ladies' man. From my years cheonging in Thailand, I have noticed that thai gals are pretty protective and get jealous easily. I really have to toe a very fine line if I were to do anything with her friend. Any advice?

[Krungthep Lover]

Originally Posted by knowntender

KT Lover, the battle is to make her not-too-friendly friend to be friendly to you.

Let's say you took your tilac and her friend to the seafood place in Ratchada and showed some jai dee gesture along the way. Barring lesbian stuff between your tilac and her friend ( way too many surprise in Thailand...better well prepared ), her friend was likely to find an excuse to leave after the meal, and you could have your tilac for the night.

In case any oddity came up in the restaurant like her friend showed jealousy or signaled your tilac not to go with you, then you were really in a tough battle.

I know you may see such set-up to be too idealistic. But think about it...these are P4P ladies....you showed yourself generous and trustworthy.. your tilac wanted to stay with you... no lesbian complication. So what else could stop you ?

The threesome thing that I mentioned earlier was only a slim possibily. You don't want it anyhow.

This is probably a better approach in your future pursuit.



Knowntender

By the way, you mentioned Chuwit said something on this topic, what was it?

[knowntender]

Originally Posted by Krungthep Lover

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'm likely to continue to pursue this gal the next time I'm in BKK. I've been toying with the idea of flanking the issue and paying for a session with her friend to see if I can discover "what lies beneath". Getting friendly with her friend as well is another option, but I don't want to appear like a ladies' man. From my years cheonging in Thailand, I have noticed that thai gals are pretty protective and get jealous easily. I really have to toe a very fine line if I were to do anything with her friend. Any advice?

If I were in your position, I will attempt getting friendly with her friend.

When I have time, I will write something about taking out MP girls and note on Chuwit's good comment. I suppose you don't mind me writng this subject in your thread here.

[Maitong Kit Mak]

Originally Posted by Krungthep Lover

By the way, you mentioned Chuwit said something on this topic, what was it?

Hi KT Lover,

Good FR from u ! 1 thing I do notice about Thai gals are that they are very "Jian4" in a way. Meaning that if u treat them nice, they won't give a shit or they won't treasure u at all, they won't necessary appreciate what u had done etc....BUT if u play along with them and learn the Thai guys way of treating the gals, like simply treat them like dirt of nothing even thou u love them etc...Just don't show them easily u love them(Eg, sometimes they call,just don't pick up the phone OR don't bother to call them too often OR if they call, just said u r busy and call back later etc), let them play the guessing game or let them fell that they need to do a lot more to get ur love etc.....that way, they will treat u truly...maybe, thou it depends.

These are some experience I had gather from some brudders and my past years of chionging in Thailand...Hope that helps...Any brudders out there disagee?

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by Maitong Kit Mak

Hi KT Lover,
These are some experience I had gather from some brudders and my past years of chionging in Thailand...Hope that helps...Any brudders out there disagee?

The guru speaks again. So when are you gonna land your ass in LOS again?

What you had said may be true to a certain extent but one must remember, we are there to seek companionship, fun and enjoyment, may be be too keen to spend to much time on mind games. We are there to play, not to stay. Also, most Singaporean guys had too much respect for the opposite sex and being a gentleman we are, we might not bear to bring the beast in us on her.

[Maitong Kit Mak]

Originally Posted by OceanEleven

The guru speaks again. So when are you gonna land your ass in LOS again?

What you had said may be true to a certain extent but one must remember, we are there to seek companionship, fun and enjoyment, may be be too keen to spend to much time on mind games. We are there to play, not to stay. Also, most Singaporean guys had too much respect for the opposite sex and being a gentleman we are, we might not bear to bring the beast in us on her.

Hi Brudder,

I guess u r rite as well...Really depends on ones mentality, for fun or into mind games...hehehe! Yeah, I guess as well most of them had too much respect for the opposite sex...sometimes we just got to tighten our heart...thou I know some brudders is able to...u should know who...seems like he's got the beast/devil mixture in him...potentially.

Btw, I may be going to Taiwan & Bkk in late Apr..hope to see u there

[kururunfa]

Thanks so much for sharing.

Your experience brought back a bitter sweet memory for me. I went through a similar situation with a girl from hi-class, except she did join me at my hotel after work. She too was new to the aap naam scene, and was quite green in many respect.

But in the end, have to agree with chwit's comments. They are working girl out to make money. Your chances would have probably been greater if you had given a tip after the first encounter.

just my 2 cents.

[Krungthep Lover]

Originally Posted by knowntender

If I were in your position, I will attempt getting friendly with her friend.

When I have time, I will write something about taking out MP girls and note on Chuwit's good comment. I suppose you don't mind me writng this subject in your thread here.

To what extent should I go with her friend? I was thinking about "calling" her for her services at Utopia, then work on being friendly with her during the session.

You're welcome to use this thread. I'll wait patiently for your Chuwit related story.

[rave999]

Originally Posted by Maitong Kit Mak

Hi KT Lover,

BUT if u play along with them and learn the Thai guys way of treating the gals, like simply treat them like dirt of nothing even thou u love them etc...Just don't show them easily u love them(Eg, sometimes they call,just don't pick up the phone OR don't bother to call them too often OR if they call, just said u r busy and call back later etc), let them play the guessing game or let them fell that they need to do a lot more to get ur love etc.....that way, they will treat u truly...maybe, thou it depends.

These are some experience I had gather from some brudders and my past years of chionging in Thailand...Hope that helps...Any brudders out there disagee?

Bro MKM,

Agreed with this point and that's what landed me the current girl I am "stuck" with... When I butterfly with other ladies and she sms I'll reply back that I'm at Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy and then I'll switch off my handphone. That'll keep her in suspence alright! When I return back to the hotel, then I switch on the HP......guess what, missed sms started flowing in..

Dun let her have the impression that she is very "important" to you!

[Maitong Kit Mak]

Originally Posted by rave999

Bro MKM,

Agreed with this point and that's what landed me the current girl I am "stuck" with... When I butterfly with other ladies and she sms I'll reply back that I'm at Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy and then I'll switch off my handphone. That'll keep her in suspence alright! When I return back to the hotel, then I switch on the HP......guess what, missed sms started flowing in..

Dun let her have the impression that she is very "important" to you!

Brudder Rave, EXACTLY!!! Well Played!So do u plan to stick with this lady for good or depends? I guess there's really some ppl (Like us) who now really prefers to play games rather then the "Get it or fuck it" atitude...

It's really challenging in some ways...heheehhe!

[free]

Originally Posted by Maitong Kit Mak

1 thing I do notice about Thai gals are that they are very "Jian4" in a way. Meaning that if u treat them nice, they won't give a shit or they won't treasure u at all, they won't necessary appreciate what u had done etc....BUT if u play along with them and learn the Thai guys way of treating the gals, like simply treat them like dirt of nothing even thou u love them etc...Just don't show them easily u love them(Eg, sometimes they call,just don't pick up the phone OR don't bother to call them too often OR if they call, just said u r busy and call back later etc), let them play the guessing game or let them fell that they need to do a lot more to get ur love etc.....that way, they will treat u truly...maybe, thou it depends.

These are some experience I had gather from some brudders and my past years of chionging in Thailand...Hope that helps...Any brudders out there disagee?

I think it really depends on what path you are taking and which "pond" u choose to "swim" in. Sometimes pull back on the "attention" part I agree, though not on purpose but was really buzy (often in a meeting or similar), and it works a bit. But treat them like dirt?". Maybe my experience has been totally different. They chose me largely coz I dun behave like the "thai guys" u talk about.

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by free

But treat them like dirt?". Maybe my experience has been totally different. They chose me largely coz I dun behave like the "thai guys" u talk about.

From what I've known the gals are brought up in a manner where man has the say, not the gals, gals are simply housewife that's all. I still think it is better to be who we are, dont really like the idea of fakeing something or acting in another manner, I mean I am who I am, may they be friends, WLs, FLs etc, I will treat them the same way I wanted to be treated. of course if later on I got played out, then I must be ready to face the fact as well.

[ryanlim]

Originally Posted by Krungthep Lover

By the way, you mentioned Chuwit said something on this topic, what was it?

Chuwit's post : Post #14