MIA FARANG (Foreigner's Wife)

[free]

Originally Posted by MrDevil

bro free, not sure if you have explored if there are any IDD card that offer call back service where you could call oversea via their call back. This should save you on your mobile bill, especially if you are using your mobile to call most of the time. It will be even cheaper if you setup a Net-Telephony on your tirak home. You can buy it from Sim Lim for about $200 for a pair where if both pair calling is totally free of charge. You dont need it to work with a pc, just connect the unit with the phone and line. To call mobile, there is a small charge, close to net-phone charge. Forgotten the name of the shop, it should be at 3rd storey where the shop display lots of net-telephony equipments. Will share with you the full info when I got back to Spore in 2 weeks time. I think this is worth all the savings on the phone bill. This way, both of you could talk non-stop. hehehehee

I must applaud you and other bros for spending so much time and sharing so much valuable experiences, thoughts and info to have a balance view in tirak and long distance relationship. It's pointless for one to instill only negative perspective and generalise everyone within the same category, it's not going to wake anyone up as every situation is unique. Perhaps by sharing more factual info and experiences can help those in need to serve as a reference on how they could strengthen their position and walk smoother in their journey. Well afterall, none is earning anything for spending their time to share.

Thanks, I WILL explore. But have to be after I come back cos me working like shit till Sunday with 1.5hr to spare from the end of the class I am teaching to my flight Or maybe do it while I am there if possible.

Talking about factual experience, I got a false alarm today. On looking back, I had been inevitably affected by much of the warnings I read in SB and it kind of put me on guard. As usual we were having our after-lunch-talk. She told me her mum had gone ahead to seek the monk's advice to select the opening date for our shop (WEEK 1 August), cos the shop is almost ready. She asked me if I mind, or if I prefer to be there to check out the monk, she will tell her mum to wait for me first, and get a new date. I told her it is OK - might as well open for biz earlier since it is ready. But I will have to miss the 1st 2 days cos I got to teach a class back here, if she is OK go ahead. She is, cos several of her friends will be there to help. The next thing she said gave me a shock - that I dun need to come up as her girlfriends will be around and she will be very busy and also her friends might find my presence awkward (haven;t met all of them yet - only her close ones for now). Though I was upset, I did not show it. I definitely wanted to be there during the 1st week. ALL the alarm bells started ringing in my mind! Now that the shop is almost done, does it mean that I am not needed/wanted anymore?

To buy myself some time, I told her I am busy and we can talk when I come on Sunday night. Left things at that and was pretty moody for the day. Later we talked again as I was making my way back from work (we have the habit calling each other after we finished doing a major task). She tells me that she has been thinking all afternoon about our lunch conversation, and was not comfortable with me not coming 1st week August for the opening week and she would miss me terribly and would very much love my presence - unless I am too busy. And our boy definitely would like me to be around for his birthday too. Replied I would love to be there. Unless she doesn;t want me there. Plus of course I want to be with little Icecream for his birthday. She said she really wants me to be there with her, cos she wants me to see the shop in operation and give her comments, as well as meet ALL her friends. She said she had already told them we are going to get married next year, and she is poom jai (proud) to introduce me to them. I teased her now that I have lost 9kg, can show off a bit liao, kekeke. Also, she really wants the 3 of us to spend time as a family on our little one's birthday (sounds familiar? haha). Asked her why this noon, she asked me not to go. She said she was just thinking loudly about the options in her mind and does not want to impose on me and insist that I come up, even though she would like me to. She was also concerned she would be too busy to take care of me. But she realised I am more impt to her than her frds and I will come before them. I replied that I will help out or at most, work on my notebook at the shop, since there is a table/counter. Also told her there is always Pantip Plaza for me. [On hindsight, I realised that her behaviour was as normal as can be]

So what is the moral of the story? If I had not known her better, I may have suspected (or worse, accuse ) her of trying to do all sorts of things, and that I am no longer important to her now that my usefulness is gone. And create a fuss that will definitely hurt her and pushed her away, instead of drawing her nearer. Told her what went thru my mind, cos of the negative stuff I hear around me all the time. She understands and reminded me that there is also another side to the coin - TGs get cheated too. Glad I tried not to make any hasty conclusions and just wait for events to unfold. Ultimately my trust in her was confirmed yet once again. Thank goodness I had learnt from my previous experience when I was more hasty,

[cyrus]

Hey guys,

if its only to call one another ... you can use Skype .. its very good .. can even work through firewall. very good clarity.

http://www.skype.com/

[free]

We often hear talks of TGs having fun with another Puchai & at the same time having a chat with their sponsor. It is true. I know cos I have been there myself. .Only this time, the sponsor is a Thai and the puchai "under the sheets" was none other than myself She is only 23. young, fair, pretty with a hot bod, but dependent on her "Pi" for her high standard of living - to the tune of 50k baht a month. Decided that night I will NOT afford this kind of puying, but since I am "caught". might as well "finish the job"

Here's the story:

Remember not too long ago, 4/5 March to be exact (before I met my tirak and we started dating each other), there was one chio thai bird who came down to my regular BKK pub to meet me cos I happened to be there (after my breakup) and gave her a call. She said she will come just to accompany me, and when saw her black halter top with plunging neckline, I knew she had more than keeping me company in her mind. She later confessed she had always fancied me - maybe cos I was a challenge to her as I never jao chuu'ed while I was with my ex, while I had fancied her since the 1st time I saw her at Changi airport when she arrived - could have easily drawn 1st blood that night, but never did (as I had retired from bonking). She was not free to stay & spend a lot of time with me that night cos her Pi {sponsor} was coming to her condo, but promised to see me again the next night, as he will be away. And she did come again to meet with me. The activities for the next 36 hrs were something I had not experienced for long time (no details needed here, kekeke). End of the day, I did not have to pay her for the time we spent together. Just dinner at MK and bought her 5CDs and a lipstick. Sure I paid for the drinks we had at Rad's and the chinese tea we had at a cheapo karaoke she brought me to (she wanted to sing her heart out). Total < 5k Baht.

But what strikes me most that while we were "under the sheets", her Pi called and scolded her for switching off her hp the night before (when we were dancing at a pub, Rad). Earlier she was tipsy and had decided to off her hp in case he called and she didn't want him to know she had been drinking with me or worse with another guy. I normally dun drink but how to refuse her offer to share drinks from the same glass, since I was single again? She put her finger to her lips and I knew what to do - just keep quiet. What else can I do, as I am already there? After the call, where she gave all sorts of stories to placate him, it was all systems go again. Today I still talk to her occasionally, but u can imagine that was the last time I dated her, as I met my tirak immediately the next night. I have to say the difference between my tirak and her are night and day. This gal played solid KC with me and gave me anything I wanted & many times at that, over the whole night and next morning till late afternoon (no real breakfast/lunch even), when we went to the restaurant in the hotel for early dinner, and go shopping. Guess I was her conquest - the guy she couldn't entice when I was previously attached. I guess she was tired of her Sponsor and tot maybe I would wanna pick up the tab? For me, I was just out for well, pure sex after 1 yr of celibacy.

On the contrary, the woman I want to marry today has yet to play KC with me after 6 months of serious dating! Winning her love/trust was hard work, but worth every ounce of effort. Just dun know how to explain it. I am a much happier man today cos I know I am building a long term r/s - hopefully to last.

[free]

Originally Posted by cyrus

Hey guys,

if its only to call one another ... you can use Skype .. its very good .. can even work through firewall. very good clarity.

http://www.skype.com/

My tirak cannot lah, at least not for now. She see PC already bpuat hua, cos memories of her previous accounts job. Must simulate regular phone. Things may change when we go to new place with proper line. If Webcam can work for 56k modem, even if jerky, skype is on

[free]

Originally Posted by cyrus

Hey guys,

if its only to call one another ... you can use Skype .. its very good .. can even work through firewall. very good clarity.

http://www.skype.com/

FYI, Skype works well even when I used a 56k modem access in Chiangrai to talk to someone in office. Better then hp even, except for the slight delay.

[MrDevil]

Originally Posted by cyrus

Hey guys,

if its only to call one another ... you can use Skype .. its very good .. can even work through firewall. very good clarity.

http://www.skype.com/

Skype will need to operate via a pc, there are a dozen more similiar service.

[serembanmen]

U ar right!!

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by MrDevil

Perhaps by sharing more factual info and experiences can help those in need to serve as a reference on how they could strengthen their position and walk smoother in their journey. Well afterall, none is earning anything for spending their time to share.

But a pity, what we see often on the net is not factual and should be taken with a pinch of salt. Some stories on net were made up to make the cinderella story look beautiful and touching.

True that none is earning anything for spending their time to share, but you wouldn't know they have a face to earn

hahaha
SC

[free]

what we see often on the net is not factual and should be taken with a pinch of salt
I supposed what u have posted in your stories are also included, or are they an exception?

Well, in my story, old prince ugly and his pretty & young cinderella did beak up after 1 year due to reasons that are common in normal BGRs, for reasons different from what some predicted (not everything that occured must happen in the same bitter manner).

Yet moving along the same line with the same mentality, he's found a matured and even more beautiful Snow White, and LDTR Book 2 began, wiser and even better. Still good friends with Cinderella, cos no reason to make enemies, as decision to split was mutual

[BkkPattaya]

Juat share a little something which you guys may already know off.
Found this prepaid phonecard salled "Sawatdee", $10 stored value gets me 61 mins on a thai handphone.
Golden Mile selling $8.5
Geylang $8
Bedok $9
Only one fixed value, no other denominations.
So far I have used abt 25 cards and no problems with connection or clarity to date. Hope this helps the budget conscious.

[free]

Originally Posted by BkkPattaya

Juat share a little something which you guys may already know off.
Found this prepaid phonecard salled "Sawatdee", $10 stored value gets me 61 mins on a thai handphone.
Golden Mile selling $8.5
Geylang $8
Bedok $9
Only one fixed value, no other denominations.
So far I have used abt 25 cards and no problems with connection or clarity to date. Hope this helps the budget conscious.

Thanks brother. I suppose your area is around BKK? Had tried Sawatdee to call ChiangRai and it was bad. Hello Card much better. If BKK is it, I will definitely go and buy one and try. Why dun they have it in bigger denominations? A lot of hassle to reprogram hp each time.

[BkkPattaya]

Originally Posted by free

Thanks brother. I suppose your area is around BKK? Had tried Sawatdee to call ChiangRai and it was bad. Hello Card much better. If BKK is it, I will definitely go and buy one and try. Why dun they have it in bigger denominations? A lot of hassle to reprogram hp each time.

I used the card for 2 areas, kanchanaburi and pattaya. I have a friend who used it for BKK, so far no complain.

[B.Bollocks]

Originally Posted by fish76

Bro, u mean a house in Thailand or in S'pore? Well I am seeing a ex WL, did it because of family like many other gals. I dun care about what happened and we are now trying to see if she can adapt to life here. I can't find a job in Bkk despite sending like 30 CVs........According to a recruitment agency, there are too many ang mohs that want to work there..........and by the way, I'm 28 and she's 25.

bro, i salute u...u have an open mind....

[MrDevil]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

But a pity, what we see often on the net is not factual and should be taken with a pinch of salt. Some stories on net were made up to make the cinderella story look beautiful and touching.

True that none is earning anything for spending their time to share, but you wouldn't know they have a face to earn :cool:

hahaha
SC

Originally Posted by free

what we see often on the net is not factual and should be taken with a pinch of salt
I supposed what u have posted in your stories are also included, or are they an exception? :rolleyes:

Well, in my story, old prince ugly and his pretty & young cinderella did beak up after 1 year due to reasons that are common in normal BGRs, for reasons different from what some predicted (not everything that occured must happen in the same bitter manner).

Yet moving along the same line with the same mentality, he's found a matured and even more beautiful Snow White, and LDTR Book 2 began, wiser and even better. Still good friends with Cinderella, cos no reason to make enemies, as decision to split was mutual :)

None could predict the future or guaranteed a relationship (with any nationalities) will be fruitfull after sweat of labor. End of the day, if one has tried his best and did nothing to regret, I believe he will be able to stand up again standing taller and walk another journey smoother.

Experience or stories, regardless if factual or beautify, are all fall upon the receipient to digest and absorb. Some points could be useful to serve as reference but each situation and person is unique asothers which may not be completely applicable.

Just as I am posting this, I myself at a cross junction to decide if I should abandon the journey that has just started or just act as another passerby or persist to continue even foreseeing more stones and holes ahead than expected. Would I rely on anyone experience or story to decide?

[free]

Originally Posted by MrDevil

None could predict the future or guaranteed a relationship (with any nationalities) will be fruitfull after sweat of labor. End of the day, if one has tried his best and did nothing to regret, I believe he will be able to stand up again standing taller and walk another journey smoother.

Experience or stories, regardless if factual or beautify, are all fall upon the receipient to digest and absorb. Some points could be useful to serve as reference but each situation and person is unique asothers which may not be completely applicable.

Just as I am posting this, I myself at a cross junction to decide if I should abandon the journey that has just started or just act as another passerby or persist to continue even foreseeing more stones and holes ahead than expected. Would I rely on anyone experience or story to decide?

I feel blessed that I am not in your boat. Ja Bpai Saai, ruu Kwaa? Dtrong Bpai Gor Dai? (To go left or right? Straight ahead also can?) It is tough - something that I honestly dun think I can deal with. I can only guess if there is acceptance on the end that is needed, I will carry on. But should I eventually have to leave that end behind, I think I will do my part to help preserve that beautiful end - ensure that the drastic changes that had been made out of faith in you can continue to persevere.

Well, I share out of a sincere heart to help some who may be in the same boat (or stepping in) to see the other options/possibilties available. While some may treat what I write as beautified fiction or whatever they might call it, it is not my problem nor concern. They should simply ignore my stories if it irks them that much. To each his own. For I walk my life's walk independently and I do not need to seek the approval of others, be they fellow pilgrims (or fallen ones?) or just bystanders. However, when others offer pearls of wisdom, I will consider and if they makes sense, embrace them.

My life journey still goes on, and whether I finally reach where I hope to go, only I will reap the rewards or suffer the consequences. I had fallen once and I am not too proud to see/admit the mistakes we both made, but it does not mean I will fail again - at least not in the same way. Key thing is I had learnt from my previous experience as to what works and what dun, and don't repeat my mistakes, and I know that she has too, or it would be tough to still be good friends. For sure, the single biggest glaring thing that was wrong with my earlier experience was totally eliminated with the maturity or older age of the woman I now chose (actually more the experience she had), and it is showing by the rate of real progress we had made over the last 6 months. It is good to have a tirak who have not given me reasons to even suspect that there may be another party lurking around the corner. What sweet Peace of Mind. Something I had thought will be impossible with TGs, but then how many TGs do I know then? Now that I am experiencing it, I count my blessings and say "YES!"