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Old 13-10-2009, 12:36 PM
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Re: is it worth it?

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i will sms her again for simple greetings and she will reply also( which i think most fls cant be bothered)and i did ask some of my friends(also horny bastards) what i should do and i am very worried tat i get kced...
Great sex stops after you have cummed.
SMS-ing is just a tool, in fact some of them mass sms. So please do not think that replying an sms is a love letter, its just another "Dear Joe" kinda standard reply symbolising perhaps courtesy because she might want you to RTF.

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my friends recommend me to book another fl and see how thing goes, but amazingly, i turn back last minute and cancel the appointment at the very last minute. some of my friends tell me tat i will grow tired after fucking her a few more times and ask me to rtf her since i not interested in other fls at the moment

but the one thing i am most worried about is that i really 感情用事 and fall into the kc trap which i carefully avoided so many years? the thought of it really scares me, but the memorable moments spent with her is urging me on.
some friends of mine also told me to pay her a certain amount of money and bonk her a month on a weekly basis of few times so that i will be bored with her and i will go back to my old ways..
Its up to yourself to cut the strings and I guess you just have to find your own excuse to move on.

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Old 13-10-2009, 01:13 PM
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Re: is it worth it?

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Good luck bro, you will need lots of it, cos you are a goner. RIP.
thanks for your blessings bro, but not necessarily will be gone. thats y i m still here, actually stronger than last time cos of a sentence she told me.

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No worries bro, since you have made your decision & not seek our advice, then go ahead as planned.
You only lived once, even you made the wrong move, you still lived once.

Regret or not is not up for us to decide for you

Hoping to hear more updates from you, can make into a sotry book liao
i am not a good writer bro, but this r/s will not end cos she is a good bonk, but seriously, after this, i know that i wont fall into the trap of self kc or kc anymore, looking for her will be only for the feelings she can give me which others cant.

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Life is short but wonderful cos it's really unpredictable...

Like a gift box of chocolates... never knows what u really gonna get.

U may regret later if u proceed, but u may also later regret if u don't.

I wonder if this make some sense...
your statement makes sense bro, just like me... i took friends words and plunge in, then managed to come out also now...no problem about that, it just lies in your will and how you treat this r/s..

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Nobody is really poor. Your emotions is worth a lot. Suffering from KC is destructive to your productive life. Turn it around, even if you have tons of money, it is nothing to you when you are a walking zombie. Or worse, when you cannot buy her love anymore.
thanks for your opinion again bro collins, took your words and managed to keep my feelings for my family, now talking to her is just sweet talking,no truth in it at all...

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Bro is it kc? Not trying to advise you, cos I'm not in the position to do it. You sound very confident, but remember this, the dynamics of the relationship with your girl will be always changing. The only constant here is it is never going to be static. I'm not sure, how you will end up. Hopefully, you do know exactly what you are doing.
sure i know bro,no worries about that and thanks for your concern..i read your story too, i was a moment like you, becoming sentmental, but suddenly her words struck me and i am awaken.

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Hi bros, I was in the same shoe before, finally we "officially" separately few days ago after together for more than 3 years! Reason I found out that have have sex with many man when I was overseas, even in Singapore but not with her! You m,ay ask how I found out? Just to share with you check every corner of the house, found a box of caps (big box) and left only few pieces! She admitted bcos she need more money! @#$#@#$**&

Final conculsion: All PRC women are going for money only! Eventually you waste more time, more money and may even get aids!

Chinese says "Hao Duo Si An", don't becos of one tree and lost the entire forest!

Like what the bros says you already know what to do and now its time for your to implement it! Good luck bros!
not to say prcs, actually everyone is for money, be it guys or gals.. no matter what the race or nationality is... now i just take it as a good bonk and feelings is actually not there anymore, maybe its just a moment of impulse,

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Great sex stops after you have cummed.
SMS-ing is just a tool, in fact some of them mass sms. So please do not think that replying an sms is a love letter, its just another "Dear Joe" kinda standard reply symbolising perhaps courtesy because she might want you to RTF.


Its up to yourself to cut the strings and I guess you just have to find your own excuse to move on.

All guys enjoy a great session but at the end of the day, make it a session only.
totally agreed with you that all replies from fls is just pure mindset of entertaining the customer in the hope that will rtf again.. saw it with my own eyes, smile to her, heart uncomfortable, bonk her vigorously, paid up, left the hotel and here i am, another experience.. but sometimes will still miss the feeling she gave and sms her for simple greetings and she will reply too, but i know that its just pure customer r/s already.. but seriously, bonking her is so damn gd!!! thanks to all the bros here who gave their opinion, i am fine!!!
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Re: is it worth it?

based on your several quotes on most bros message - its indeed shows you have fallen & not able to climb out the trap anymore.

Finding excuses to cover yourself in this kind situation is the last thing ..

You know you are just lying yourself, so just continue with what you are doing - no worries ..its not against the law anyway - you may find happiness lying to yourself - Just like me - Because Geminians always lies to everyone
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Re: is it worth it?

Braddah, fellow SG man to fellow SG man, are you are businessman or a philantropist? Assume cannot be both unless you are on the Forbes list. Now if you expect to spend unlimited amoounts with no return other than feel good factors which you will not remorse then you are a philanthropist to the gal. If you are a businessman and you think of your outlay as an investment, do you know what you are getting? What is your objective if you even know. Braddah, you need to ask yourself what is going on?
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totally agreed with you that all replies from fls is just pure mindset of entertaining the customer in the hope that will rtf again.. saw it with my own eyes, smile to her, heart uncomfortable, bonk her vigorously, paid up, left the hotel and here i am, another experience.. but sometimes will still miss the feeling she gave and sms her for simple greetings and she will reply too, but i know that its just pure customer r/s already.. but seriously, bonking her is so damn gd!!!
thanks to all the bros here who gave their opinion, i am fine!!!
If you are willing to play the game then be prepared for a roller coaster ride.
If not, just be a prick....... finished the business, clean up and go back to the underwear

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Re: is it worth it?

Well TS, it seems like you have gotten out of the hole that you were partially in. Good for you. Don't look back, cut off ties and move on bro. Soon you may not even remember her name.

By the way, I am curious, what is the sentence that you said she said to you?
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Re: is it worth it?

bro u r lucky to find a terrific paid bonk. me want also dont have. just RTF her if u need to satisfy yr lust can liao, dont need to think much more. rem she is also giving great sex to other customers too, not to you only. so just treat it like a movie session, enjoy the entertainment for the price paid, go back hm a happy man and carry on with yr normal life the day after.
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Old 14-10-2009, 12:47 PM
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Re: is it worth it?

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..its not against the law anyway - you may find happiness lying to yourself -
seriously bro, i cant understand why you cant accept the fact that somebody is able to pull out of the trap

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Now if you expect to spend unlimited amoounts with no return other than feel good factors which you will not remorse then you are a philanthropist to the gal. If you are a businessman and you think of your outlay as an investment, do you know what you are getting? What is your objective if you even know. Braddah, you need to ask yourself what is going on?
what i want is the feel that she can give me.. i wont be true to her too and vice versa, will just be like a bonking session with a bit of kc involved, and fyi, i dont throw $$$ away cos i dun have much too just regular bonk. looking for her is for emotional bonk with feelings( if u guys know what i mean)and i enjoyed it much more than bonking fls who will give you all those fake moans and kc skills,

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If you are willing to play the game then be prepared for a roller coaster ride.
If not, just be a prick..Have fun yeah?
thanks bro, i can only be a half prick at the moment, dun wanna lose so fast the feelings that she can give me at the moment and ended up like commercial sex again....and indeed i enjoy..

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By the way, I am curious, what is the sentence that you said she said to you?
she told me that i cant be emotionally attached cos i have a family, and she cant too cos she is in this line...but we will be there for emotional help for each other when we need it, but we must never ever step over the line..then she told me that since we cant be lovers, then just be bro and sis, sounds confusing ha?? then thinking that she is using reversal psychology, i laughed and told her what i feel... she was angry that i never believed her and she told me all her true particulars( i saw the documents) and said that if i dont believe her, then i might as well call up the relevant departments to catch her and send her back.

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bro u r lucky to find a terrific paid bonk. me want also dont have.just RTF her if u need to satisfy yr lust can liao, dont need to think much more. rem she is also giving great sex to other customers too, not to you only. so just treat it like a movie session, enjoy the entertainment for the price paid, go back hm a happy man and carry on with yr normal life the day after.
thanks for that, i must admit it is really good bonking her
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Old 14-10-2009, 02:45 PM
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she told me that i cant be emotionally attached cos i have a family, and she cant too cos she is in this line...but we will be there for emotional help for each other when we need it, but we must never ever step over the line..then she told me that since we cant be lovers, then just be bro and sis, sounds confusing ha?? then thinking that she is using reversal psychology, i laughed and told her what i feel... she was angry that i never believed her and she told me all her true particulars( i saw the documents) and said that if i dont believe her, then i might as well call up the relevant departments to catch her and send her back.

Oh I see, its THAT sentence. Aw shucks man! That is such a rehearsed line. I've heard it before myself. What took the cake is that after hearing those lines from a WL, I chance upon the exact same lines floating around on the internet, vertabim! That WL just did a cut and paste on me man. Hahaha. Fortunately it was one ear in, one ear out for me.

There is some element of truth in what she said, even though the lines are well rehearsed... don't ever cross the line. Don't say she never warn you about it.

A WL once told me that she will not allow herself to develop feelings for me because if that ever happens, the person who would be hurt the most would be herself. Whether or not this is part of her KC tactics, you can't help but see the truth in that statement. No matter how much they are fond of you, they will harden their hearts and see the relationship as a mere commercial transaction.

While you may say that you have pulled yourself out of the pit, frankly my gut feel is that you are not completely out of it yet. So long as you continue to see her and fuck her, it will be impossible to get her out of your system. Like you said, your bonking is with kc involved. Sounds risky man. You will never know when a spark may come and ignite a flame that you cannot put out.

My parting comments to you bro is to know objectives and recognise your risks. If you fail to have a complete and objective risk analysis, you may not know what kind of shit you are getting yourself into. And if you do not know what are your objectives, you will just float along the path of least resistance which normally means the path towards a rather painful end.

Good luck bro. Like I said in an earlier post, you need it.
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A WL once told me that she will not allow herself to develop feelings for me because if that ever happens, the person who would be hurt the most would be herself. Whether or not this is part of her KC tactics, you can't help but see the truth in that statement. No matter how much they are fond of you, they will harden their hearts and see the relationship as a mere commercial transaction. While you may say that you have pulled yourself out of the pit, frankly my gut feel is that you are not completely out of it yet. So long as you continue to see her and fuck her, it will be impossible to get her out of your system. Like you said, your bonking is with kc involved.
bro, thanks for your words, they are actually told to me before by the fl herself, thats y its a very confusing situation also now, you may say that i am not fully out yet, but all i know is that i will not drop further in..
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Re: is it worth it?

and also i will need advise from bros here on this few scenarios and see what i did is correct or wrong..

scenario 1, she told me herself that we cant be emotionally attached cos i am married, and she cant be emotionally involved with anybody cos its the rules of her trade, and no matter how much she like the guy, she will have to forsake her right for feelings.

scenario 2, she know i dun believe her, thus she took out her student pass and let me know all her true particulars(which i believe any fl in her right mind will not do cos its very dangerous for fls to do that if i am not wrong) i myself never even once let fls know my real name and my particulars too for basic self protection.

scenario 3, offered her an amount of money to book her on a regular basis( not under market price,in fact its the same damage as i look for her seperately) and she rejected, gave me a simple answer, whenever you want to see me, i will be there. this part is damn confusing, which fl in her correct mind will turn this type of offer away?

scenario 4, since she said that we cant be lovers, then she would really like us to be brother and sister r/s so that she can have me as her 精神支柱. maybe i really meet a super kc queen with extraordinary tactics cos most of the tricks will not work on me.

so bros who are reading, pls kindly give your pointers, i really confused by all the moves that she made.
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and also i will need advise from bros here on this few scenarios and see what i did is correct or wrong..

Should be ".. and I will also need ADVICE from brothers here.....".

"Advise" is a verb.
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Re: is it worth it?

TS, you got a high hand on your plate.

So what if you know her true particulars? It merely means that you know her name, passport number and the fact that she is on student's pass. Half the girls at the KTV joints are on student's pass. If ICA really wants to clamp down on these girls, the KTV joints will be out of business overnight.

Seems like she is stringing you along bro. Consider this; if her rates are $150 per bonk, and you offer her $1,000 per month to bonk her on a regular basis, that means her income from you is fixed at $1,000. If you bonk her twice a week, over a 4 week period, the amount you pay would be $1,200. Immediately she would have lost $200 in income.

Even if you pay her more than what you would have paid for regular sessions, there are the other intangibles. There is someone to call for comfort on days when she feels down. There is someone to be her tour guide, or buy her nice meals on her days off.

If she is really good at this game, being on a student's pass means that she will be here for an extended period of time, she may even move on to the next phase and have you pay for her rental and other expenses once you are hooked.

Finally, men being men like challenges. If she is too easy to get, the fear is that you may be bored with her after a while. Saying things like she will not develop a relationship with you, that you are like brother and sister will give it the impression of your trying to attain the forbidden fruit. Main objective is to keep you interested for a prolonged period of time.

If she really regard your relationship as like brother and sister, why the heck are you fucking her? Incest? Get real man. If she sees you like a brother, she will not allow you to fuck her unless she's a real pervert.
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Re: is it worth it?

Bro slider, when was it that we last heard the 'she said...she told me...is it really like that...but she also said....' kinda speech before?

Bro is it kc, such statements are never meant to make sense simply becos it is supposed to confuse you. Put it this way, whether she say these stuff or not, your relationship remains largely the same. No change. It only makes you confuse becos there is no continuity FOR YOU. You can't even understand what she wants, you become reactive. You wait for her kill liao.

Look at those statements, they all refer to the continuation of the relationship with some form of 'commitment'. Whether the commitment is in monetary (as in how much) or in formality/namesake (as in who I am and who you are), it all answer to the question, 'if we are together, how is our relationship gonna be like?'

First of all, the basic fact is, you have no continuity with her. Yet you seek it. She serve no commitment to you, yet in truth you also want it. SO she gave you half a commitment, then you topple liao. She of cos knows what you want, yet maintain it in such a way she can still do whatever she deem right and you are made to be the understanding half. Fine balance, done so right.

If you are not KC-ed, you WILL NEVER seek commitment. Even when she said all these, you WILL NOT get confused.

Now you tell me, are you out or are you in? Dun be put on the fence, confusion is a pain in the butt.
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Bro slider, when was it that we last heard the 'she said...she told me...is it really like that...but she also said....' kinda speech before?
Let's see.... hmmm... I think we heard these statements from 99.99% of the bros who kanna KCed big time but refuse to acknowledge it?

TS is in trouble but he doesn't know it yet. We can only do so much bro, we can only do so much.

The rest must depend on his 造化。
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