Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

[edkoh2000]

Originally posted by siamcutey
Ok, let me tell you 1 thing.

Nowadays Thai girls see Singapore Red IC as a good thing. Even better than the Prada and Guccis.

Though economy in Singapore is not doing well, but Singapore to them is a Paradise. A place where big money is made due to currency exchange. No matter how strong Thai Economy and the Baht is against Sin Dollars, it will still be around $1SGD against 20+ baht.
If you take a look in Golden Mile, you will actually see a lot of SG PRs, Citizens who are formally Thais. Many of them are separated or divorced from their relationship with SG Men. I am not condemning them, but the numbers seem alarming.

Thai girls in Thailand, they knew 1 thing. They knew if they marry a foreigner (or Singaporean) as we put it in this scenario, the life they have will at least be better than marrying a Thai Man. Once they get married, they can start to apply for the PR status. I mean that is what many foreign men are doing in Thailand as well. If this Thai girl become your wife in sg, gets her PR and suddenly you see a 180% change in character, she can throw you anytime. Separation, divorce, and 1 more thing is she as your wife, she is entitled to alimony if not half of your assets and fortune.

Am I exaggerating? Maybe you can just think it over clearly to see whether the points are made over here.

Definition of Pii Chai is you do not even need to fork out a single baht or cent to help her. She loves the Pii Chai the most.

A True Story from a Past Forumer who is my Friend as well.

He has an Ex-Thai Girlfriend who married a Japanese Man in Japan. Even bored him a child, but she has that kind of "visit incentives" to go back hometown in Thailand. She even said she still loves my friend dearly and would relish some happy times once she is "out of the clutches" of the Jap Man. So does that made my friend the Pii Chai? My friend said enough is enough. He wouldn't want to do something behind that guy's back cos it is bad karma. But to the Thai people, what is Karma to them? They go temple, devout buddhists, but still lie through their teeth. This is their culture.

If this girl can lie once, can lie twice, she can lie a 3rd, 4th, 5th and more.

On whether she is able to meet her Pii Chai twice a year or not, that is not the issue. Cos on and off, along the way, people can think of 101 excuses to get an opportunity.

No one will know what will happen in the future, but you must ask yourself 1 question. If your girl play stunt on you, will you be able to counter back?

PS: we are not Pii Chai or Sponsor Experts. We are sharing real life stories and happenings. These are things which the schools don't teach

SC

No wonder you are chairman. Talk with more sense and more humble but still very negative.

Everyone wants a better life including you and me. If thegirl married you partly because of money, is it really a crime. Important thing is they stay faithful to you and be contended with the lifestyle you give.

While most of you can come here and condemn all of them, have you look at yourself in the mirror?

Yes they lie and cheat but so do we?

Yes they could turn bitchy and play tricks on you but did you treat them right in the first place?

Are they not humans? Will they not be touched and learn to love you? Ofcourse they wont if they find you are inhumane to them.

Funny I also got a true story. A Malaysian friend of mine also married a Thai working girl. Paid a dowry of $450k baht to help the girl build the family house. After that he got not much savings left. The girl uprooted and live with him in Malaysia. After the marriage, he only gave the girl a monthly pocketmoney of $5k baht. The girl stay faithful to him, goes back to Thailand only once a year and always call from the home. While she is in Malaysia, seldom goes out and if do almost always with his sister and mom. She never calls anyone except her family members using his house phone which numbers can be traced. This had been going on for 5 years now.

Ofcourse no one knows the future and you can continue to spread horror stories.

[edkoh2000]

Originally posted by siamcutey
Since you said there is very few pure love in this world, then why bother getting into 1? Wouldn't that be contradictory? Being single isn't the end of the world. If the purpose of finding a woman is to make a person's life be a complete cycle at the expense of happiness, I think its useless. Being single can do lots of things too. Though it is not as good as being attached, but hey, it isn't end of the world.

The Singaporean culture is very very much different from the Thai culture. In singapore, if a girl don't like u, she will tell you that. In thailand, if the girl don't like u, she can still continue to be with u if you have money. (Not saying everyone, but try doing a survey, the percentage of thai girls doing this is way much higher than a sgp girl)

When you bring a Thai Girl to Singapore, she slowly changes to become like a SGP girl. And of course, the appetite for money might be higher.

SC

Not everyone is lucky enough to find pure love but even if we do...being humans we usually mess it up anyway.

Yes...being single may not be a bad thing. I never mentioned it is.

Not having so called pure love does not mean you be disillusion about love.

Take more responsibility as a man and have lower expectation, with compromise and patience, many couples stay happily married till they are old. Some do not even know our meaning of pure love.

PS: are you sure Singapore girls tell you in your face...you have not met the ones who put on oscar award acting.

[edkoh2000]

Originally posted by yomun
You think I don't know what's the difference between supporting and sponsoring?

Your first post suggest you don't know. Still nevermind, if now you know it is great!

So you would agree with me if your wife is not working, giving her a mere $400 a month for pocket money and to send some home to her parents is not too much to ask.

[Sundaytimes]

Originally posted by yomun
You think become Pii Chai very shiok is it? Will get controlled you know?

It's just another job to them till the 'contract' is terminated.

If I were to sponsor a girl I'll hire a siam kia (old man) full time to watch over my 'property'. His job is to report to me any unusual movements. Sponsors out there take note. Haha.

being pii chai sure beats being sponser. Many reasons to support this statement. At this point i can't see a 'healthy' (SG point of view) relationship working out.

Living in suspicious is one of the last thing that i want do.

[edkoh2000]

At the end of the day...I was free tonight so come here and disturb disturb a bit.

From the start, I always think that some of you are too negative and there is simply too much stereo-typing and degrading terms but its ok...this is your thread and its your life. You can go on living with a hurtful heart.

While it is good to warn newbies, try not to kill their good loving hearts and make them paranoid for nothing. For even if 1000 are potential banana skin, one of them with a good loving heart might still find the odd one to share a happy life with.

I do agree the path is dangerous and have many traps. It is good to learn their language and culture to understand them. In the beginning especially, bound to have lots of mind games. However the ultimate winner is still the one with a loving forgiving heart.

[edkoh2000]

Originally posted by yomun
Since when did anyone here condemn all TGs? We're talking about the Thai 'culture'.

Yes very few pure love that will involve no money at all. But that's not the point. Very naturally local girls expect more as most of them are living quite comfortably already. Girls from poorer countries of course want a better life. They take it one step at a time to achieve their ambitions. It doesn't matter whether they're WLs or not.

It is GREAT to HEAR NO ONE here CONDEMN ALL TG.

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by edkoh2000
No wonder you are chairman. Talk with more sense and more humble but still very negative.

Everyone wants a better life including you and me. If thegirl married you partly because of money, it is not really a crime. Important thing is they stay faithful to you and be contended with the lifestyle you give.

While most of you can come here and condemn all of them, have you look at yourself in the mirror?

Yes they lie and cheat but so do we?

Yes they could turn bitchy and play tricks on you but did you treat them right in the first place?

Are they not humans? Will they not be touched and learn to love you? Ofcourse they wont if they find you are inhumane to them.

Funny I also got a true story. A Malaysian friend of mine also married a Thai working girl. Paid a dowry of $450k baht to help the girl build the family house. After that he got not much savings left. The girl uprooted and live with him in Malaysia. After the marriage, he only gave the girl a monthly pocketmoney of $5k baht. The girl stay faithful to him, goes back to Thailand only once a year and always call from the home. While she is in Malaysia, seldom goes out and if do almost always with his sister and mom. She never calls anyone except her family members using his house phone which numbers can be traced. This had been going on for 5 years now.

Ofcourse no one knows the future and you can continue to spread horror stories.

PS: are you sure Singapore girls tell you in your face...you have not met the ones who put on oscar award acting.

hahaha, no point being such a chairman when cannot earn money from it.

Yes, I agree on the fact that everyone is looking for a better life. But try asking yourself, you can do the 1st by giving her the money, but will she be faithful, that is another question. And that answer no one will know except herself.

The cycle is always here, you may say we are condemning, but never once did I say that you are "giving them a helping hand". My sharings relates to real life, people can compare and see with their own eyes. But if your sharings can relate to real life and make people see, why not?

Since you said we lie and cheat, thats why they lie and cheat. I accept this. Why not? Who's getting serious? And seriously when did I not treat them right? And up till today, I never use inhumane manner or sadistic underhand methods to get back at a Thai girl too. 1 thing for sure, I don't con girl's money.

Like I always say, its up to individual to choose what kind of route they want. I don't need to account for anything if my words turn out true and the guy got conned big time. It's not my money. They can choose to believe or not up to them

Just like now you are driving on a accident prone road. I put up the accident prone sign to warn others. Others can take note and drive more carefully. They can also choose to avoid this road. There will also be others who continuing using it. It's up to individual to choose. If today by my so-called horror stories, can manipulate a person's future, I think I am becoming a phenomenon.

In order to understand a Thai Girl, you must first understand what kind of background they are from, what kind of family they have. What kind of friends they mix with.

Family and Friends is the most important. Because these 2 factors influence them more than 1000 reasons you can give them. The WLs will talk among themselves what customer came today, how many sessions they do, what opportunities overseas. But the decent ones have a whole different topic among themselves. Certainly they wouldn't talk about how many sessions they did today.

What is stated in my postings is all my points, views. People take it and compare with their own scenarios. If its true, they r at least warned. And all are big adults able to see whether what I am saying is true. 1 more thing is, your story ain't fake, but would you dare to say that these things are not happening in Thailand?

So since it ain't fake, why not share it? And where did the condemnation part appear in?

PS: Since Singapore girl like that, Thai girl also like that, why bother getting a girl?

SC

[Sundaytimes]

Originally posted by edkoh2000
It is GREAT to HEAR NO ONE here CONDEMN ALL TG.

Why not use 'assume' rather 'condemn'.

[siamcutey]

Originally posted by edkoh2000
At the end of the day...I was free tonight so come here and disturb disturb a bit.

From the start, I always think that some of you are too negative and there is simply too much stereo-typing and degrading terms but its ok...this is your thread and its your life. You can go on living with a hurtful heart.

While it is good to warn newbies, try not to kill their good loving hearts and make them paranoid for nothing. For even if 1000 are potential banana skin, one of them with a good loving heart might still find the odd one to share a happy life with.

I do agree the path is dangerous and have many traps. It is good to learn their language and culture to understand them. In the beginning especially, bound to have lots of mind games. However the ultimate winner is still the one with a loving forgiving heart.

Sad to say, you may think we are negative. But I tell you its the TRUTH. Don't tell me you disagree with me that the incidents are TRUTH? Just that the TRUTH to you is negative, doesn't mean we have to paint a positive message to relay the picture.

As for stereo-typing and degrading, do you go out often and mix around with girls of the trade. I admit I do. We can talk almost anything under the moon. Their tactics, schemes, lovers. What's wrong with relaying it here? The girls are good friends to me, but will never be my love cos I know the ways they use to con men.

And if I find that 1000 are potential banana skin, I will just avoid the path and maybe find another place with less banana skins.

The Ultimate Winner will not be the one with a loving forgiving heart. He will be the one who is using his eyes to see things rather than using his one-eye monster below in his pants.

SC

[edkoh2000]

Originally posted by siamcutey
Yes, I agree on the fact that everyone is looking for a better life. But try asking yourself, you can do the 1st by giving her the money, but will she be faithful, that is another question. And that answer no one will know except herself.

Yes...this part will take time to find out. I am just saying that thought their culture might be similar but each girl should still be treated as an individual.

Originally posted by siamcutey

Since you said we lie and cheat, thats why they lie and cheat. I accept this. Why not? Who's getting serious? And seriously when did I not treat them right? And up till today, I never use inhumane manner or sadistic underhand methods to get back at a Thai girl too. 1 thing for sure, I don't con girl's money.

Actually the comment was general, not pointing directly at you since I also don't know you. But guys who cheat these Thai girls will know who they are. Most of the sponser treat the girls like goods then ofcourse the goods usually have no feelings for them but see them only as a carrot. I cannot comment on much but my Malaysian friend that I know, he has never treated his wife like goods though the wife once worked as one.

Originally posted by siamcutey

Just like now you are driving on a accident prone road. I put up the accident prone sign to warn others. Others can take note and drive more carefully. They can also choose to avoid this road. There will also be others who continuing using it. It's up to individual to choose. If today by my so-called horror stories, can manipulate a person's future, I think I am becoming a phenomenon.

You might be surprised. SC and gang is becoming very popular and some see you very UP! Haaaaa...

Originally posted by siamcutey

In order to understand a Thai Girl, you must first understand what kind of background they are from, what kind of family they have. What kind of friends they mix with.

Family and Friends is the most important. Because these 2 factors influence them more than 1000 reasons you can give them. The WLs will talk among themselves what customer came today, how many sessions they do, what opportunities overseas. But the decent ones have a whole different topic among themselves. Certainly they wouldn't talk about how many sessions they did today.

PS: Since Singapore girl like that, Thai girl also like that, why bother getting a girl?

Yes yes...this part I agree with you. Since many of them seldom read, they usually only listen and usually to those they trust.

You are not suggesting we go for ladyboys or turn gay...are you?

[edkoh2000]

Originally posted by yomun
Wow thanks for the enlightenment! Maybe you can give me more tips on Thai 'culture'. Haha.

I never claim to be an expert on Thai culture.

I am just glad you understand giving money does not 100% equate being a "sponser" as by your definition and being a "sponser" does not 100% equate having no real love.

[Sundaytimes]

Originally posted by edkoh2000


You might be surprised. SC and gang is becoming very popular and some see you very UP! Haaaaa...


You are not suggesting we go for ladyboys or turn gay...are you?

Tomorrow you shall will see the 30% of the samsters turning into gays.

[edkoh2000]

Originally posted by yomun
At the end of the day this thread speaks the truth on many matters. If you don't want to hear the truth why bother to read this thread? Ok ok this thread is full of lies. Does this make you feel better? Everytime there'll be some individuals who are unsure of their directions in life who come in here and justify their reasons and so on and so forth. Just because they can't handle the truth. WHERE are they now?

hahaha...

Truth is very much your perception of reality. When 1000 people speaks the same perception among themselves, they start to advocate it as gospel truth.

Funny as it may seem to you...actually I do agree on some things said in this thread. I also see some of the tricks myself in REAL life played by these Thai girls.

And if you notice, I did some earlier posting and never run away. I am still here and will be here for sometime though I am not a regular.

As I mentioned before also, tonight I am free waiting for 111111 game to start so come here and disturb disturb.

My point is this.

None of us know every Thai girl. None of us know every Thai WL. Though many share similiar culture and even tricks. It does not mean ALL will behave this way.

When a guy meets a Thai lady and think he falls in love with her, see the lady as an individual before starting to label them.

I see many negative things here presented as GOSPEL TRUTH. So I speak some variety hoping to balance it a little.

If like you say, NO one here condemn ALL THAI girls then I am very happy to hear that we agree one some things.

And if you cannot handle a variation of opinions, you can don't reply me as well.

[edkoh2000]

Originally posted by yomun
I'll let you find out for yourself and then you come here and share it with us. Ok?

How do you know I have not ?

If a person is not open minded, 1000 true stories will not open his mind.

By the way, thought you are already enlightened.

[siamcutey]

To edkoh2000,

This thread starting to get quoty.(My definition of quote by quote)

Whether people want to see me up or no up, up to them. None of my business too. But if they want, they can try giving me money if they see me so up.
People like me enjoy typing, others enjoy reading. That's the beauty of this forum. We can post what we want, minus the abusing, vulgarities.

Frankly, I tell you, I am not one to write what people love to read. People love to watch movies like titanic, tear jerkers. But I prefer to write about the TRUTH. Tear jerkers are readily available, while such true happenings don't get to be shown. Why? Because seriously, a lot of people can't handle the truth when they are shown with it. Until today, I can tell you a lot of people are shock when they read the Private Dancer. Those who are in the Thailand Scene or experience similar scenarios will know to the extent how true the story is.

As for going for ladyboys and gays, I think its going way out of the topic for that.

Let's be rationale and think hard. I am sure in your scenario, there will be someone in your picture. So you can just think of all the happenings that happen before in your love life and try to reason out. Like u said, every case is different, so only you yourself can see how true it is. I can't see it, cos I am not in your shoes and not going out with the girl.

If a girl lies to you once, twice and many times even, do you think she can be trusted? Yes, you can forgive a person, but I am sure you will not forget. So trust is only 50% in the picture.

Getting into a relationship is when both parties are trying hard to make the other happy. If only one is trying to make it work, whats the point to carry on. It takes 2 hands to clap.

Marriage is a big investment and probably for life even. You make a good one, you get your rewards. You make a bad choice, you might have to live with the loss. It's all about reducing risks to the lowest. And it all depends on how big a risk taker you would want to be.

SC