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Really depends bro. Sorry,my reply is going to come long,cos whether OKT in a certain joint is good or bad are rather judgmental from different views and how one looks at it.
When Penang governor puts up a law to restrict foreign workers/talents from being a chef/cook in their state's traditional food delicacies,who benefit most? And who suffers? The one who benefits most are the customers who eats the food,and the one who suffered most are the boss who employs the foreign workers. Similar theory applies. When an OKT in a joint is discipline and strict with their working girls,who benefits? And who suffers? I have made a comparison with joints with similar size base on their quantity (joints with 30+ girls) of girls like Happy Massage 8,Bunga Massage,New Berry and Indah2 with Gold Bird. I have heard of Happy Massage 8 runaway girls,i have heard of New Berry runaway girls,i have heard of Bunga's runaway girls,even Indah2 has their fair share of runaways...but none from Gold Bird thru out 2014 to mid 2015,hehehe... (let me know if anyone found any tho) Happy Massage 8 has a very very good mami and a fairly ok Papi,Mami was praised by almost all girls working there. But average girls booking is only 2-3 customers per week.They are the MOST expensive joints with poorest discipline girls. Bunga Massage Mami,the white hair old lady who used to be from Happy Massage 8 and the Chinese speaking lady. Both mamis also earn praise from their girls,average customers each girl has is about 4 per week. But lets not forget more than 30% of Bunga's girls are previously from Gold Bird. Chinese Mami was quite strict but still look after the welfare of the girls whereas old lady white hair mami was rather a motherly figure. Bunga Massage is the 2nd most expensive bigger sized booking joint i knew in Batam. New Berry Papis,i think there are 2-3 main ones. A joint i hear that girls are bribing the 2 main papis for business. Still there are a fair share of good girls who can hold their own ground of regulars but papis are rather not-so-discipline except for that ah teck Chinese guy who is a little better than the rest (dare to scold girls type). Average customers for their girls a week is between 4 to 5 per week,thats why some girls can sometime heck care their customers...lol. Indah2,OKT was a total pushover by the girls (thats what i heard). Girls dont respect the OKT. Most girls (prettier one) there dont rely on their OKTs to help them for business. Thats why there are often as much runaway girls there as in Happy Massage 8. Prettier girls there catches their customer at Newton disco/Pacific or wechat at a lower price priced by their OKTs tho. Gold Bird? Hehehe...almost every girls there will have an average of 6-7 bookings per week. The girls complains are mainly,very tiring...OKT very strict,staff benefits no good etc etc. OKTs in Gold Bird are totally not into customer service becos they seems to be very confident to have their girls booked out at least 6 times a week. They are the only joint who dares to double the booking price during CNY over the last 3 years and i am almost sure they are going to do the same next year,hehehe...so are the OKTs in Gold Bird good or bad. That would depends on which angle you are looking at. I would say good for the customers as most girls has a minimum standard there already but bad for the girls. And i am after all a customer,hehehe... (the word "minimum standard" use here DO NOT equates to good service) If there is any booking joints that the girls complain that OKT/Boss are no good,i will definitely visit it and book a girl there,hehehe...becos i know what a high-handed discipline OKT can bring about what kind of girls. Remember i say before,i only have one dick,i can only visit limited girls/joints but when i help others....blah blah blah...and my rewards are, i get the updated information and reports back to me,hehehe...
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Summary for my 17th Batam trip will likely be out next week,have only start writing since yesterday,hehehe...4D3N is a long trip. A little too long perhaps. Just hope the summary wont take up 15 posts which is 1 page of this thread...lol
Last trip was better than this trip. As usual,its my curse...... ....but next 18th trip...hehehe...100% i am sure will be better than my 17th trip...lol. Quite a few taxi drivers/Ojeks didnt know where is Gold Bird when i 1st tell them (even show them the name card),but when i mention Sedona,they knows.Its always good to know both names (Sedona and Gold Bird),hehehe...I wonder if Sedona means Gold Bird in Indonesia Bahasa language...lol. Sorry,i am just curious here.... Quote:
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One of the okt in MM also not bad.. name robert. he recommended me to take one rp 1m girl instead of the rp 1.3 girl because of the service wise.. Was also very patient when we took so long sitting there to decide which girl to take, never hurry us at all just sitting beside us answering our questions.
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hi thk you nono for the info
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None as far as I know. China gals massage will put the shop massage business out of business. They are rarely found in KTVs as well. And their prices are just too ex. Not worth it. You can always find them in Singapore at a fraction of the price.
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Hi, if i go batam at their first day of Puasa. Is it ok? Is it safe to go during Puasa time?
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Been reading thru this forum and really find batam so interesting! Any senior bros or chiongsters willing/going to plan a trip anytime soon please pm me! Will split the cost accordingly. Thanks in advance!
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It is safe to go, only no entertainments only.
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Hehehehe...this is going to be interesting. Maybe,can try organising a 15 men group trip in future. 1 men down (not feeling well or late) ,14 men gets delayed.Just imagine 15 men storm inside a booking joint,1 indian chief spoils the market,the rest all die...lol.All 15 men step into MM w/o entering Indah2 (MM's neighbour),the OKT there sure go crazy...lol. 15 men + 15 girls getting each a seat in a restaurant/Coffeeshop/food court is gonna be like playing musical chair. 15 men getting into 3-4 vehicles also going to be have a sardine feel or if there is another more 15 girls,6-8 vehicles will be needed. Book a Mini-Van/Bus to accommodate 15 men,gonna cost quite a bit unless can ask mini-bus driver to give 15 men for FREE ride becos nearly all 15 men gonna book girls anyway. Possible? I also dont know...and then 15 men go money changer will guarantee best rates if they join me (becos i bargain real hard),hehehe... 15 men inside KTV playing hide and seek with 15 girls....lol....sounds like a crazy party. And i am looking at 15 men and 15 girls go watch a movie together at Nagoya Hill Mall,and shopping....sure to attract a lot of attention. Not forgetting the noise 15 men and 15 girls can generate.
Now back to reality,if i were to lead the 15 men group,each of this 15 men knock on my room door just once a day or call me in my room just one time a day. I dont think i can take it...lol. So,this 15 men idea is definitely off my hook for now.... (unless i can one day find 15 considerate bros with similar frequency with me) Quote:
MM is a good joint only for 1st timer in my opinion becos MM is still relatively new.Robert the OKT is trying to build customer base. So if newbies/1st timer join me on my group trip,i will take them there. He will recommend all his good girl to 1st timer in hope they will return. Be forewarn tho (i considered myself quite a regular in MM with some frens),i have seen a few times the girl i booked for 700k-800k before in this joint that in a blink of an eye,was resold to another customer at 1m to 1.3m the next day when i was there.This i see it with my own eyes and this action of his tells me a story. If you are in MM,always bargain down the price,make him promise the girl you choose dont run off before 7am (to be fair) and get his name card upon payment. MM is a joint with a 3 bonk rules and most girls are likely to run after 3 rounds/bonks. Personal opinion here...there is no such thing as a good OKT and i always keep in mind that OKTs in any joints and taxi drivers were never reliable people,hehehe... my booking were merely transactions to them. Every joints from every OKT has different characteristic in handling things and the girls look at them differently as compared to us. And i observe them closely. Above as just some small results after my experiment.
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Makes sense.. I'll definitely take note Thank you !
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