Divorce...

[Greendevil]

TS, btw, when you neg with your spouse on the terms, if she cant come to an reasonable agreement amicably, then make sure her demand goes as unreasonable as possible. cos eventually it will be a fight regardless she is asking for 10million or 100 million. the number of court attendance wont be more but it work to your favor when her demand goes more and more ridiculous and unrealistic. encourage to demand for 1 billion and you see what the judge will say to her.:>

[guess67]

Originally Posted by Greendevil

your lawyer so screw up huh, only fight $1 for you. should ask one lump sum follow by $1.

No lah, initially i told my lawyer i no need his $ but my lawyer still tell me to put the $1 there

[Greendevil]

ok. but note that the $1 benefits is only valid until you got married again, cos the law @@ that you are that man liability liao. LOL

[assster]

thanks all for the info and PM.

Lastly, i wanna know how they determine my assets? I have some offshore funds and properties i never told her about.. but i paid taxes on them, will they be able to trace?

[assster]

Originally Posted by Greendevil

TS, let me ans your quesiton and provide you some other info:

1. There no such thing as marriage less than 5 yr cannot divorce. There are 2 phase to a divorce. first phase is to submit to court to determine if you meet the criteria to divorce which there are 4 conditions. As long any one of the condition is been met, you can divorce.Pahse 2 is settle your $$ and kids problem. in your case, if she agree for divorce, you can go use the unreasonable behaviour. the four condition ares Adultery, 'Unreasonable Behaviour', Desertion, separation for 3 years.

2. HDB will buy back at market price. but no urgency, usual divorce, fastest will take 4-6 months to complete the whole process, assumming both agree to the condition. so by the time your shit over, which again you have 6 months to sell the flat, i.e. you add up together may just meet the 5 yrs criteria to sell in open market. as for the splitting of the asset, that depend case to case. if you not divorce under adultry and as mention you are the one paying for it, that mean approx 1% of the asset goes to her for every one year of marriage but minimum figure start with 5% or so for ladies. Please do check again , i believe during the initial downpayment, both your CPF are wipe out, so it mean so own x % of the flat. And you use x + 1% x year of marriage, that how much she will get. if you have kids, the whole formula change again depend on the custody.

3. if she never ask, dont backside itchy give. even a $1 per month alimony will kill you one day. under woman act, after divroce, if there is a $1 alimony, that mean you are still responsible for her well being to a certain extent. and if she get into accident and become handicapped, loss her ability to generate income, she can use this $1 to apply to court to ask you provide maintenance to meet her living needs, subject to your income ability and liability then.

PM me if you got other question

For part 2, u mentioned if not under adultery, what if it is? whats the diff?

[Greendevil]

divorce split into two phase. first phase is to check if your application is eligible i.e. meet any of the four conditions mention, desertion, adultry, separation more than 3 year and unreasonable behaviour. most ppl applied using the unreasonable behavior. both parties must come to an agreement on the phase 1. E.g. you may file under unreasonable behaviour but your spouse contest that and accuse you having an adultry. in this case, you two got to "fight off" first to prove this point of adultry. another e.g. you file under unreasonable behavior, and she disagree (basically dont want to divorce or been difficult). similarly, you have to prove your point on unreasonable behavior.

once clear phase 1, i.e. you two are technically divorce, then come phase 2. usually it happen 2-3 month after phase 1. Phase 2 is where you talk abt money and children. Even both of you has come to an agreement amicably, both your lawyers/rep will still have to book for an court session to provide the documents to the judge for approval.

The whole process may take 4-6 months assume it a smooth sailing, again subject to family court session availablity and queue. some people may drag for months to year just disputing phase 1, adultry. Then many months on phase 2. that is why you may hear stories of ppl divorce case drag for years, despite he may be just an average Joe. Do take note to maximise each court session as (1) it cost $$ for the court session, you have to pay for the session as well as your lawyer time (2) after one court session, you got tot book the next one and like mention, the next session may only available 1-3 months. lastly, whatever you seen on drama or movie abt lawyers is movie. in reality, the lawyer not going to do the CSI work for you unless you are seriously paying him/her a hefty sum and neither your case is a criminal case. the lawyer has many other client to serve as well and some paying much more than you. so always maximise the court session, feed your lawyer well in advance on the court session on the information and stuff you want him to present. else you are only just wasting your time, money and on the receiving end of your spouse's lawyer firing.

[guess67]

Originally Posted by Greendevil

ok. but note that the $1 benefits is only valid until you got married again, cos the law @@ that you are that man liability liao. LOL

Tyvm for your advice

[MILFrocks]

I have gone through a divorce without kids. Married for about 4 years. I was earning about 2.5 times more than her. Judge ruled that 4 years was not considered long and considering that her salary of about 3-4k was sufficient, I did not have to pay monthly maintenance, despite her demanding for 2k a month. In fact, she was so demanding that my lawyer told me that the judge commented that she was asking for too much.

As for my flat, I bought over her share as I was already 35 (the minimum age for a single to buy over a flat as an individual).

It is better for the other party to initiate the divorce if you want to save cost. the person initiating it usually have to pay more. If both of you are agreeable to divorce, let her initiate. She will write all kinds of nasty things as her ground for divorce. My advice is to ignore them and just accept the grounds. Some people are so upset about this that they waste money arguing on the grounds. Since both parties want to split, then just accept the grounds. Not worth arguing over the reasons since they will not be made public anyway. Don't waste money arguing for such stuff. Better to spend time and money on determining how to plsit the assets.

PM me if you want more advice or have queries.

[joncheong]

Originally Posted by MILFrocks

I have gone through a divorce without kids. Married for about 4 years. I was earning about 2.5 times more than her. Judge ruled that 4 years was not considered long and considering that her salary of about 3-4k was sufficient, I did not have to pay monthly maintenance, despite her demanding for 2k a month. In fact, she was so demanding that my lawyer told me that the judge commented that she was asking for too much.

As for my flat, I bought over her share as I was already 35 (the minimum age for a single to buy over a flat as an individual).

It is better for the other party to initiate the divorce if you want to save cost. the person initiating it usually have to pay more. If both of you are agreeable to divorce, let her initiate. She will write all kinds of nasty things as her ground for divorce. My advice is to ignore them and just accept the grounds. Some people are so upset about this that they waste money arguing on the grounds. Since both parties want to split, then just accept the grounds. Not worth arguing over the reasons since they will not be made public anyway. Don't waste money arguing for such stuff. Better to spend time and money on determining how to plsit the assets.

PM me if you want more advice or have queries.

that's some good advice you have there!

[4getful]

Originally Posted by MILFrocks

It is better for the other party to initiate the divorce if you want to save cost. the person initiating it usually have to pay more.

There is the reason why marriage & babies have drop over the years. It will keep dropping and become extinct, maybe many decades later where we will not live old enough to witness it. Not only locally but in other places as well. WC is meant to protect women either they are married or not married. But some female nowadays are more educated, even more educated than many men. Now, they not only want protection but also becoming greedy and some treat marriage as a form of getting out of poverty, insurance and better life. It feels no shame to extend out the hand for free money. Love comes with condition, marriage nowadays seldom work. Mentioned so much about wc, so it means no different in who initiate the divorce as the payment can be draft to be paid by the male side. Adultery has nothing to do with the division of asset and payment. It only helps expedite the procedure as both can no longer stay tgt. But the mood of the judge when passing down the verdict does play a part in the asset division and alimony to ex wife and child, if any. Remember, once a man sign the paper, he has no say but to pay.

[Greendevil]

Originally Posted by MILFrocks

I have gone through a divorce without kids. Married for about 4 years. I was earning about 2.5 times more than her. Judge ruled that 4 years was not considered long and considering that her salary of about 3-4k was sufficient, I did not have to pay monthly maintenance, despite her demanding for 2k a month. In fact, she was so demanding that my lawyer told me that the judge commented that she was asking for too much.

As for my flat, I bought over her share as I was already 35 (the minimum age for a single to buy over a flat as an individual).

It is better for the other party to initiate the divorce if you want to save cost. the person initiating it usually have to pay more. If both of you are agreeable to divorce, let her initiate. She will write all kinds of nasty things as her ground for divorce. My advice is to ignore them and just accept the grounds. Some people are so upset about this that they waste money arguing on the grounds. Since both parties want to split, then just accept the grounds. Not worth arguing over the reasons since they will not be made public anyway. Don't waste money arguing for such stuff. Better to spend time and money on determining how to plsit the assets.

PM me if you want more advice or have queries.

Bro, i do agree that it will be meaningless to fight on the gorund of divorce in the case when both parties is earning almost equally or the woman is earning more. TS's case is he earning few times more than his wife, so if the ground of divorce is audltry, there a good chance he will need to pay alimony no matter the amount is big or small.

[Ngengheng]

Nowadays divorce is so common. Everywhere also hear this...life is so simple and yet is people makes it complicating.

[hugs]

Till now, both marriage and divorce still give me goosebumps. If there is one thing i regret in my life, is marriage plus divorce. The lovemaking hmmmm nah no regrets and i am totally in love with the baby we made. I wish I knew of sperm bank decades ago or is there none back then? I'm bias. I only want the baby cos the marriage was a disappointed and a lifetime of regrets.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by hugs

I only want the baby cos the marriage was a disappointed and a lifetime of regrets.

That's what most women want. The man is merely a tool to be manipulated till impregnation is complete.

Once the deed is done and a woman's maternal instincts are taken care, the man is disposed of.

[MILFrocks]

Originally Posted by Greendevil

Bro, i do agree that it will be meaningless to fight on the gorund of divorce in the case when both parties is earning almost equally or the woman is earning more. TS's case is he earning few times more than his wife, so if the ground of divorce is audltry, there a good chance he will need to pay alimony no matter the amount is big or small.

I would like to clarify one thing based on my experience. The grounds for the divorce (e.g. which party is at fault) is NOT relevant to the division of assets. It does not necessarily mean that if the guy commits adultery, he is more likely be made to pay monthly maintenance. The deciding factor is whether the woman is able to maintain her current quality of living after the divorce. For example, in an extreme case, if a guy commits adultery against his wife who is much richer than him, it is highly unlikely that they guy would be made to pay maintenance.