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Many bros here always have a mind set that the gals in Geylang must be earning tons of money. But have you even considered how many customers they have to serve each day to earn that amount of money? The Thai working gals have the worst, with 20mins per session working between 2pm and 5am each day, they will have to serve around 45 customers for 15 hours per day if it's an ang pai. Most of them have to work 7 days a week without rest. Now put yourself in their position, can you take it? Don't forget that they are only earning S$20 per session regardless of how many the OKT quoted the customer, because foreign customers will usually be charged a higher rate.

Most of them, by the time their contract ends, will look at least 10 years older than their actual age, some look even worse.
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Many bros here always have a mind set that the gals in Geylang must be earning tons of money. But have you even considered how many customers they have to serve each day to earn that amount of money? The Thai working gals have the worst, with 20mins per session working between 2pm and 5am each day, they will have to serve around 45 customers for 15 hours per day if it's an ang pai. Most of them have to work 7 days a week without rest. Now put yourself in their position, can you take it? Don't forget that they are only earning S$20 per session regardless of how many the OKT quoted the customer, because foreign customers will usually be charged a higher rate.

Most of them, by the time their contract ends, will look at least 10 years older than their actual age, some look even worse.
Sorry Bro,

In the past, I think like you. But no longer are the days where these thai girls are forced into this trade. They chose the path willingly. At the end of the day, when they serve finish the so-called 45 customers (if there still is in this kind of days), they will be compensated with money whom they chose more than their health.

So if you ask me to put myself in their shoes, what you see is only the surface where they serve customers, but how come you never think that how many hi-fis, gold chains, bracelets, they have kept and pawned at the end of the day?

And 1 more thing, is if they don't like the job, during the AV interview, they can request they want to go home.

Generally why thai girls come to Singapore? Because they are told that they have to serve 20 customers a day and in getting $20 per shot and $400 a day, that is good money to them. That is the reason why they come. Remember, the reason of working in GL only supplement 20% of their income. The rest of the income comes from gifts, presents, and "Sponsors"

By the time their contract ends, they will go to another country to continue their tour of duty or they will come back to one of the MPs in thailand and ply their trade. They wouldn't care whether they look old. They just want to make the most out of it while they are young and still have the looks. To them its called maximising their "career lifespan".


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Small comments but not wanting to start more threads..

Today I visited Orchard Towers at around 3pm. No gals there , just few body massage places.

Tat space quite small actually, I had tot it was like Far East Plaza or sumthing.. how come its regarded as hot spot? Area soo small how to operate hmm..wonder even if the body massage place had individual rooms . To b sure issit the 1 bside Delphi Orchard, or opposite Forum S.C.? Newb here
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Sorry Bro SC.

I do agree with you on the part that they might not be forced into this trade. However, many of them regreted a few months after they started working and most of the time, the cause to some of them who choose to leave after one year instead of completing the two-year contract. And the reason that they have to complete at least one year is because the OKT wants them to achieve a certain quota of income before they are allowed to leave. And the exploitation of this girls by the OKT to overcharge most of the foreigners while returning the girls only SGD20.00 for each of the sessions that are most annoying.



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Sorry Bro,

In the past, I think like you. But no longer are the days where these thai girls are forced into this trade. They chose the path willingly. At the end of the day, when they serve finish the so-called 45 customers (if there still is in this kind of days), they will be compensated with money whom they chose more than their health.

So if you ask me to put myself in their shoes, what you see is only the surface where they serve customers, but how come you never think that how many hi-fis, gold chains, bracelets, they have kept and pawned at the end of the day?

And 1 more thing, is if they don't like the job, during the AV interview, they can request they want to go home.

Generally why thai girls come to Singapore? Because they are told that they have to serve 20 customers a day and in getting $20 per shot and $400 a day, that is good money to them. That is the reason why they come. Remember, the reason of working in GL only supplement 20% of their income. The rest of the income comes from gifts, presents, and "Sponsors"

By the time their contract ends, they will go to another country to continue their tour of duty or they will come back to one of the MPs in thailand and ply their trade. They wouldn't care whether they look old. They just want to make the most out of it while they are young and still have the looks. To them its called maximising their "career lifespan".


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Old 26-12-2003, 10:55 PM
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Sorry Bro SC.

I do agree with you on the part that they might not be forced into this trade. However, many of them regreted a few months after they started working and most of the time, the cause to some of them who choose to leave after one year instead of completing the two-year contract. And the reason that they have to complete at least one year is because the OKT wants them to achieve a certain quota of income before they are allowed to leave. And the exploitation of this girls by the OKT to overcharge most of the foreigners while returning the girls only SGD20.00 for each of the sessions that are most annoying.
Yup many of them regretted a few months later. But when they come home to thailand, you still see them going back the flesh trade and some of them even go HK, Aust, England, or other overseas. I thought they were saying regret?

Some left after 1 year, because they are promised better money elsewhere. Japan, England, so many.

And you only see on the surface that what the Thai Girls tell you is that they might take only $20 when the foreigner is charged $80. But why don't you go ask the OKT? If the girl is not happy, she can report to AV during her Interview. Thai girls will only say that this who and who take my money, but you should ask them how much money they borrow from their boss, how much lies they try to con the boss to lend them money etc, then you will understand that things are not so simple on the surface. Even if the OKT take their money, its between them and the OKT.

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Old 27-12-2003, 12:21 AM
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Actually none of the Thai Girls told me about these, especially the part about the money. It is my observation throughout the years there. I really doubt that the boss could get cheaped by the girls since they are very experience in handling these. In fact, it could be the other way around, the boss cheaping the girls instead based on the girls' lack of knowledge of the situation here.



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Yup many of them regretted a few months later. But when they come home to thailand, you still see them going back the flesh trade and some of them even go HK, Aust, England, or other overseas. I thought they were saying regret?

Some left after 1 year, because they are promised better money elsewhere. Japan, England, so many.

And you only see on the surface that what the Thai Girls tell you is that they might take only $20 when the foreigner is charged $80. But why don't you go ask the OKT? If the girl is not happy, she can report to AV during her Interview. Thai girls will only say that this who and who take my money, but you should ask them how much money they borrow from their boss, how much lies they try to con the boss to lend them money etc, then you will understand that things are not so simple on the surface. Even if the OKT take their money, its between them and the OKT.

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fall in love with what you do, dun fall in love with $money$

this job is mixing business with pleasure.
you got pleasure and $money$

the best job in the world
The msg 'fall in love with what you do, dun fall in love with $money$' make me laugh like fuck seah... i m very impressed wif ur creativity...

I had always tink the guy in tis advertisement is talking total cock....
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Actually none of the Thai Girls told me about these, especially the part about the money. It is my observation throughout the years there. I really doubt that the boss could get cheaped by the girls since they are very experience in handling these. In fact, it could be the other way around, the boss cheaping the girls instead based on the girls' lack of knowledge of the situation here.
There are cases where bosses cheaped the girls. But then if you really get to know this bosses, 1 thing you can say is that some of them will try to help the girls if it is within their means.

Example a girl when just come GL will say the family need money in province cos someone in family got accident. Of course, the boss is not stupid. This lie already say too many times until sometimes you know what to anticipate next when someone says it. If the boss doesn't raise a helping hand, it might be in his conscience if it is deemed true. Since it is only a small amount of money and he could help, why not? But then, if all girls come to him with the same reason, you think what should he do? These girls have nothing for collateral terms, because if they have, they wouldn't use such reasons. So how to get back the money, of course through what they worked.

Sometimes you might wonder what the girls do with the money. Some might even be used for other reasons such as giving their Pii Chai's in Hometown. If you think Pii Chai means Brother in Thailand, it is actually. But then Pii Chai also means "Kept Men" in thailand. Nothing to be surprised actually. Some might even incur huge gambling debts due to playing cards with their colleagues after working hours in GL.

They are chum, but there is nothing we can do. The motive of the cheongster from day 1 go GL is not to listen to their sad story or even see what is happening around them. The motive is to have commercial sex. Sometimes life is just like this. We just got to accept it. There are many more sad stories happening in 3rd world countries. At least 1 thing we do know, the girls in GL will not go hungry.

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The msg 'fall in love with what you do, dun fall in love with $money$' make me laugh like fuck seah... i m very impressed wif ur creativity...

I had always tink the guy in tis advertisement is talking total cock....

hey bro,

isn't it a talk cock, sing song, play ping-pong forum?
wat do think when i'm talking abt it?
you can take it literally or take with a double-meaning,
have you ever encounter a chick enjoying it with you?
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Thank you very much, bro SC, for the info. Can't help to notice that you have always got negative feedbacks of the working GL girls and usually highlights the good deeds done by the bosses. Just wondering if it is due to any bad encounters with any of the girls or got cheated?

Read some of your previous threads and a few about you wanting to settle down with one of the ex-GL Thai ladies too.


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There are cases where bosses cheaped the girls. But then if you really get to know this bosses, 1 thing you can say is that some of them will try to help the girls if it is within their means.

Example a girl when just come GL will say the family need money in province cos someone in family got accident. Of course, the boss is not stupid. This lie already say too many times until sometimes you know what to anticipate next when someone says it. If the boss doesn't raise a helping hand, it might be in his conscience if it is deemed true. Since it is only a small amount of money and he could help, why not? But then, if all girls come to him with the same reason, you think what should he do? These girls have nothing for collateral terms, because if they have, they wouldn't use such reasons. So how to get back the money, of course through what they worked.

Sometimes you might wonder what the girls do with the money. Some might even be used for other reasons such as giving their Pii Chai's in Hometown. If you think Pii Chai means Brother in Thailand, it is actually. But then Pii Chai also means "Kept Men" in thailand. Nothing to be surprised actually. Some might even incur huge gambling debts due to playing cards with their colleagues after working hours in GL.

They are chum, but there is nothing we can do. The motive of the cheongster from day 1 go GL is not to listen to their sad story or even see what is happening around them. The motive is to have commercial sex. Sometimes life is just like this. We just got to accept it. There are many more sad stories happening in 3rd world countries. At least 1 thing we do know, the girls in GL will not go hungry.

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Thank you very much, bro SC, for the info. Can't help to notice that you have always got negative feedbacks of the working GL girls and usually highlights the good deeds done by the bosses. Just wondering if it is due to any bad encounters with any of the girls or got cheated?

Read some of your previous threads and a few about you wanting to settle down with one of the ex-GL Thai ladies too.
Ordinaryguy123, the way you put your words seems to be trying put Bro SC down that he is blinded by his negative experiences. I would only say, it might be true but then again, words of Bro SC do have their truth.
Maybe, you have been the lucky few ones who never got into any of the negative experiences, that's why you dun feel anything, instead you feel sorry for them.
IMHO, in commercial sex, one should not feel anything for them except the pleasure from your dick!!! which is of utmost importance. Who care, whether they are being forced into the trade or they joined the trade willingly. Whatever stories they told you or your any observations can be lies and acts of deceit.
Even if they are the truth, what can you do about it ??
Organise a demostration about it, come on la, if that will work, AWARE would have done it long ago. You can also become a priest and go around in geylang to persuade people not to go visit prostitutes so that when there is no demand of sex, no more sextrade in Singapore!!!
In the case of Angmo and japanese customers, where OKTs usually ask for more $$ from them, yet the girls only get $20, I believe angmo and japanese is like bonus for the OKTs. Nothing much. Cause, it is still the same, a dick to the girls, and they have run it down for it to ejaculate and tata job done within 25mins!!! $20 paid to the girl for the job done.
If you are running a business on your own, and let say u have difficult customer, and you are charging the customer more. Would you pay your workers more for that particular month ??? Nope, it is still the same thing, job done in 1 month, 1 month salary, unless have OTs. Try not to think that their work is sex, look it as a job only. Same thing, the girls only treat this as a job, laying kum cheng traps for Brothers is like working extras and OTs to get extra pay!!!
I am only a 24yr old guy, not bery much experience into this field, only 5 yrs experience into it. But then, I did have a bad experience and alas!!, I see THE LIGHT!!! but with the help of experiences of this forum.

I hope this thread will not go on anymore, cause, it is kindda un-exciting.
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why?

I wonder y also...for money they can downgrade themself to the level of dogs..haha lick pple suck cocks........all sort of horny ass goes for their service and they wun reject them....from fat bastard , old faggots to smelly banglas......or even disable pple with a limp..they suck and lick their cocks in exchange for moni......let them pump thier pussy in all manners......put urself in their shoe and think.......for moni they can do that....i could nv understand.........juz my 2 cents...not haopy with it dun reply.
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Thank you very much, bro SC, for the info. Can't help to notice that you have always got negative feedbacks of the working GL girls and usually highlights the good deeds done by the bosses. Just wondering if it is due to any bad encounters with any of the girls or got cheated?

Read some of your previous threads and a few about you wanting to settle down with one of the ex-GL Thai ladies too.
hahaha, actually you just need to compare whether the Thai girls talk more sense or I lay it with facts. Frankly thats the point where the truth hurts. In the past I also think of them as poor things, but then we will be the poor thing if we choose to believe in what they say.

I even have friends who say they have the money and if their money can change their lifes, they would deem themselves as doing a good deed. It's because with this kind of mindset, thats why the thai ladies always think of us foreigners as Chai Tao.

You need to really breathe eat n drink the same thing as them to understand what they are really thinking at times. Then you will know whether the view point is negative or positive.

Its time that adds on to the learning, but frankly if given a chance to walk down the path again, I will rather not do it cos it just shows you more sickening truth in life. Life should be happy.

hahaha
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