My life experience in Changi Prison (Cluster B)

[Hundred Plus]

To add on to what bro HokkienPeng has mentioned above, 24 strokes is the maximum strokes that will be taken by the inmate regardless of the total number of stroke in all the charges against him. For example : if the sentence passed down is 1st charge : 10 years 24 strokes and 2nd charge : 8 years 12 strokes, only the jail term is add on (if the judge says sentence runs consecutively), number of strokes remain at maximum of 24.

[Hundred Plus]

Originally Posted by lion81

i was taken to drc to visit b4 during my sec days,and we were shown how they perform caning on a cushion by a muscular officer....

here how it goes ,
the officer will stand abt a distance den he will slowly move forward while swinging his cane in a pattern abt 4-5 time before the final swing reaches ur buttock....they are gathering strength onto the cane with every swing,so imagine how pain the it is when it hit ur buttock

giv me 1 stroke i think i will faint liao....dont think anyone can tak 24 at one go...

Then you are wrong. I have got friends who survive through the 24 strokes at 1 go and they are still kicking alive till now.

[bonkudear]

Originally Posted by Hundred Plus

Then you are wrong. I have got friends who survive through the 24 strokes at 1 go and they are still kicking alive till now.

24 strokes at 1 go? Serious bro? I always thought that the caning cannot be given at 1 go. Maybe space out over a few days and each day 3 or 4 strokes.

[HokkienPeng]

Originally Posted by lion81

i was taken to drc to visit b4 during my sec days,and we were shown how they perform caning on a cushion by a muscular officer....

here how it goes ,
the officer will stand abt a distance den he will slowly move forward while swinging his cane in a pattern abt 4-5 time before the final swing reaches ur buttock....they are gathering strength onto the cane with every swing,so imagine how pain it is when it FINALLY hit ur buttock

giv me 1 stroke i think i will faint liao....dont think anyone can tak 24 at one go...

They are SPEAR. The commandos of prison. They are trained to combat any prison riots.

[hellmurderer]

Originally Posted by Hundred Plus

Then you are wrong. I have got friends who survive through the 24 strokes at 1 go and they are still kicking alive till now.

Gosh... Did you see how their skin looks like after they heal? Must be wicked sick!

[Hundred Plus]

Originally Posted by bonkudear

24 strokes at 1 go? Serious bro? I always thought that the caning cannot be given at 1 go. Maybe space out over a few days and each day 3 or 4 strokes.

Nope. All at 1 go unless the inmate half way through the rotan fainted out. But must be certified by the doctor present that the caning cannot continue, then the balance strokes will have to be done on another day.

[Schenker]

Originally Posted by HokkienPeng

Bro chin. You asked questions that will never happen.

Let me explain briefly. If sentence is with rottan, die did will kena rottan unless over the age limit and/or health condition does not allows when verify by doctor.

If sentenced to 24 years, one cannot ask to convert to rottan. This is because the charges are designed to have rottan for more severe offense like fighting, vandalism, rape etc.

Ad for caning, the max is 24 and usually have to take it at one go. Padding is from the lower spine to upper thigh and the buttocks are exposed for rottan. Usually no stoping of rottan unless the inmate faints or vomit blood but that is rare.

As for conversion of caning, the courts decide, no one else have that authority.

Citing from CPC:

Sections 325 to 332 of the Criminal Procedure Code lay down the procedures governing caning, including:

A convicted male criminal who is between the ages of 18 and 50 and has been certified medically fit by a medical officer may be subjected to judicial caning.

He will receive a maximum of 24 strokes of the cane on any one occasion, irrespective of the total number of offences committed.

If the offender is under 18 he may receive up to 10 strokes of the cane, but a lighter rattan cane will be used in this case. Boys under the age of 16 may be sentenced to caning only by the High Court and not by district or juvenile courts.

The convict will not be caned if he has been sentenced to death.
The rattan cane shall not exceed half an inch (1.27 cm) in diameter and 1.2 metres in length.

Any male criminal, whether sentenced to caning or not, may also be caned in prison if he breaks prison rules.

Minimum strokes of cane is usually from three to six strokes, and the Singapore Criminal Procedure Code lays down that 24 strokes is the maximum that can be ordered.

Singaporean law allows caning to be ordered for over 30 offences, including hostage-taking, robbery, gang robbery with murder, drug use, vandalism, and rioting. Caning is also a mandatory punishment for certain offences such as rape, drug trafficking, illegal money-lending, and for visiting foreigners who overstay their visa by more than 90 days, a measure designed to deter illegal immigrant workers.

[Schenker]

Very interesting to note about Robbery charge in Singapore.

Robbery – The penalty for robbery is imprisonment for not less than two years and not more than ten years, and caning of not less than six strokes; if the robbery is committed after 7:00 p.m. and before 7:00 a.m, the offender shall be punished with imprisonment of not less than three years and not more than 14 years, and also caning with not less than 12 strokes.

[MU fans]

Originally Posted by Schenker

Bro, since you have a impending charge, I will like to share with you something. Please do note the following before you decide to admit your charges, dispute your charges (claim trial), or your Counsel to tender in the mitigation during claim trial.



Citing from Justice Steven Chong:



Please discuss with your Counsel carefully what are the best route for you, PG at PTC stage or claim trial at a scheduled hearing. Use your cards well.

For more information, read this subcourt link:
http://app.subcourts.gov.sg/criminal...d=64541#faq8-2

Bro thank for yr advice i going to see another old lawyer abt 60+ on mon to get his advice

[MU fans]

Originally Posted by Hundred Plus

I have seen similar cases inside. I think the max you get is 1 year. After potong left with 8 mths. 1st timer, if never owe income tax or bank money you will be put on tagging after serving half of your sentence. I 3rd timer, last release on Oct 09. First 2 time short sentence and 1 time long sentence. Lucky both before 1995 so the long sentence I entitle to tagging. Sentence 23 mths, sit 9 months in QRP (work as laundry staff) a fucked up place and transfer to selarang for a few weeks and went out on tagging for 6 mths.

Bro this is my 3rd time go jail 1st is abt 20 yrs ago 2nd time is during 2009 total was 6wk+3wk(fine) i was at queentowm for 3wk bal on tagging but this time don't know can have tagging but i heard somebody told me u sit half of yr sentence the bal will b on tagging is this truth

[Hundred Plus]

Originally Posted by MU fans

Bro this is my 3rd time go jail 1st is abt 20 yrs ago 2nd time is during 2009 total was 6wk+3wk(fine) i was at queentowm for 3wk bal on tagging but this time don't know can have tagging but i heard somebody told me u sit half of yr sentence the bal will b on tagging is this truth

Since you have went out for tagging before then I think pretty hard for u to have tagging again. Moreover you have a "fast relapse" since your last release from jail is less than 3 years. As far as I knw, i have only come across 1 fellow who has got tagging for the second time but his last release from jail is more than 10 years ago. Chances are pretty slim for you but it will all depends on the SOP and the interview committee whether they willing to let u go for programme. By the way, is your last 2 offence similar or same as the one you are facing charges now? If you are repeat offender of similar case the chances will be almost close to zero.

[Hundred Plus]

Originally Posted by Schenker

Very interesting to note about Robbery charge in Singapore.

Robbery – The penalty for robbery is imprisonment for not less than two years and not more than ten years, and caning of not less than six strokes; if the robbery is committed after 7:00 p.m. and before 7:00 a.m, the offender shall be punished with imprisonment of not less than three years and not more than 14 years, and also caning with not less than 12 strokes.

Similarly for house breaking case. If the offence is committed during night, offender's sentence will comes with caning but if is during day time, no caning unless the offender hurt the victim with weapon. Rioting cases too, with weapon will have caning sentence. My 2nd time in jail was because of rioting but no weapon involved so no caning.

Rioting – The offence of rioting is committed whenever force or violence is used by an unlawful assembly or by any member thereof, in prosecution of the common object of the assembly. The punishment for rioting is imprisonment of up to five years and caning, or imprisonment of up to seven years and caning if a person is found rioting while armed with a deadly weapon.

[Gara]

Originally Posted by MU fans

Bro this is my 3rd time go jail 1st is abt 20 yrs ago 2nd time is during 2009 total was 6wk+3wk(fine) i was at queentowm for 3wk bal on tagging but this time don't know can have tagging but i heard somebody told me u sit half of yr sentence the bal will b on tagging is this truth

Bro,.. although its ya 3rd time now.. I think you will still able to go for tagging if you got family support.. Mostly is half of ya sentences..

[ChinKooi]

Originally Posted by Ram_2592

I was also an ex offender. Went twice to prison. It was stupid mistakes... ... Now I am on my way to complete my Masters. ...

Care to tell us what was your mistake ? Thanks

[Hundred Plus]

Originally Posted by Gara

Bro,.. although its ya 3rd time now.. I think you will still able to go for tagging if you got family support.. Mostly is half of ya sentences..

I beg to differ. Even with family support, prison emphasize on "first timer" only. If Bro MU fans is not on similar cases or not classified under "Fast Relapse" category then maybe he got chance. Trust me, family support for repeat offenders or fast relapse cases doesn't play a part or rather not relevant.