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[ahtecklim]

Originally Posted by vbkk

Would like to clarify on this current trend on paying upfront first.



Mamasan often will intervene and help negotiate for the girl. I would not vouch for all Mamasan kind intention but it's normally for the well being of the coyote/agogo girl. Whether the Mamasan gets a cut/comm it's normally settled between the girl and Mamasan. If u feel it's too pricey, u could find another girl at a lower price.

This is where I cannot agree with you. The newer girls are always taken advantage by the mamasans. As usual there are good apples and bad apples. Good mamasans will watch from afar but not interfere while the scam mamasans will usually negotiate for the highest prices possible so as to secure her cut.

One must remember that after you have paid the barfine , what you and the girl do is none of the bar's business so if mamasan negotiate , that means she is pimping?

I see mamasan approach me with 'the card' or to negotiate , I cancel everything.

[vbkk]

Originally Posted by ahtecklim

This is where I cannot agree with you. The newer girls are always taken advantage by the mamasans. As usual there are good apples and bad apples. Good mamasans will watch from afar but not interfere while the scam mamasans will usually negotiate for the highest prices possible so as to secure her cut.

One must remember that after you have paid the barfine , what you and the girl do is none of the bar's business so if mamasan negotiate , that means she is pimping?

I see mamasan approach me with 'the card' or to negotiate , I cancel everything.

I'm not sure about other bars but in my bar and most bars that I'm familiar with,Mamasans help the newer girls to negotiate because the girls themselves either are new or unable to cut the deal due to language barrier. The older veteran girls do not need anyone to help them secure the deals since they have been doing this probably daily. And normally the custom is to tip 50-200 baht at most to the Mamasan/waitress who helped secure the deal.

I have seen Mamasans negotiate for lower price for customers when older girls try to secure absurd prices. So there's good and bad as well.

Anyway the topic was why there was a need to pay upfront as for fear of instances whereby customer after doing the deed and running off. Bear in mind the cases I mentioned are true and are happening around us. Just my thoughts anyway. I also agree that sometimes customers feel cheated paying in advance and getting lousy service/ no service from the girl since payment has been made. Well personally I feel regardless u pay upfront or not, if the attitude/service of the girl u picked is of such calibre, it makes only slight difference.

[xiaodikou]

Originally Posted by vbkk

I'm not sure about other bars but in my bar and most bars that I'm familiar with,Mamasans help the newer girls to negotiate because the girls themselves either are new or unable to cut the deal due to language barrier. The older veteran girls do not need anyone to help them secure the deals since they have been doing this probably daily. And normally the custom is to tip 50-200 baht at most to the Mamasan/waitress who helped secure the deal.

I have seen Mamasans negotiate for lower price for customers when older girls try to secure absurd prices. So there's good and bad as well.

Anyway the topic was why there was a need to pay upfront as for fear of instances whereby customer after doing the deed and running off. Bear in mind the cases I mentioned are true and are happening around us. Just my thoughts anyway. I also agree that sometimes customers feel cheated paying in advance and getting lousy service/ no service from the girl since payment has been made. Well personally I feel regardless u pay upfront or not, if the attitude/service of the girl u picked is of such calibre, it makes only slight difference.

Interesting... That's news to me to know MMS actually will nego a lower price for customers.
So how it will pay out between them? Good know this. Cheers.

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by vbkk

I'm not sure about other bars but in my bar and most bars that I'm familiar with,...

Very interesting/great information.

Do you/are you also able to step in and help your bar patrons negotiate?

SEAJ

[SEAsiaJoe]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Do you/are you also able to step in and help your bar patrons negotiate?

Thought SEAJ the underage girl pimp is the best in bargaining? Why don't you go help and negotiate? You are a pimp after all.

Who says you cain't bargain KTV gals???!!

LOL
SEAsiaJoe

[vbkk]

Originally Posted by xiaodikou

Interesting... That's news to me to know MMS actually will nego a lower price for customers.
So how it will pay out between them? Good know this. Cheers.

Yup, not all but some that I know who have been with the bar for years. Not lower price than the market rate but for example 5k rate for LT but girl asking for 7k LT. Mamasan ain't going to let a single girl spoil the reputation of the bar because of one individual. Girls get chided for asking above market rate than the others in the bar. Or sometimes when the night is slow and girls ain't barfined out, Mamasan will try push for cheaper rates but of cos with approval nod from the girls themselves. Mamasan overall can exercise much control over the hassle of prices and faster although some customers find it irritating and overbearing. Girls normally will tip the Mamasan 100-200baht if there's a mutual agreement that everytime she tries to secure a ST/LT with her customer. That is why Mamasan sometimes tends to be overly excited when she sees a potential tip from the girl when she is seated with a customer.

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Very interesting/great information.

Do you/are you also able to step in and help your bar patrons negotiate?

SEAJ

I'm seldom at the bar. Maybe with your gracing to my bar I will be there for u.

Originally Posted by SEAsiaJoe

Thought SEAJ the underage girl pimp is the best in bargaining? Why don't you go help and negotiate? You are a pimp after all.

Who says you cain't bargain KTV gals???!!

LOL
SEAsiaJoe

My bar got no underage girls. Too bad.

[SEAsiaJoe]

Originally Posted by vbkk

My bar got no underage girls. Too bad.

Hoot! Hoot!

China market must be very slow for SEAJ. Now he is opening up Thai market.

LOL
SEAsiaJoe

[vbkk]

Originally Posted by SEAsiaJoe

Hoot! Hoot!

China market must be very slow for SEAJ. Now he is opening up Thai market.

LOL
SEAsiaJoe

Probably will see him as fat old papasan at some dogdy bars trying to get some of his underage girls to go with customers. Lol

[SEAsiaJoe]

Originally Posted by vbkk

Probably will see him as fat old papasan at some dogdy bars trying to get some of his underage girls to go with customers. Lol

SEAJ the underage girl pimp confirm best papasan in BKK because his taste same as those old pedophile farangs!

Originally Posted by 88088

I thought Sg? Pimping those milfs at desker road?

He do regional sales mah.

SEAJ = South East Asia Janitor

After customer fuck finish. He pick up used condoms (kio lan jiao long), wash, dry and recycle.

LOL
SEAsiaJoe

[SEAsiaJoe]

Originally Posted by 88088

He got rape nearly every where he go.

No choice SEAJ the underage girl pimp is into BDSM. He asking for it.

LMFAO
SEAsiaJoe

[vbkk]

Any news on whether patpong or cowboy was open last night?

[vbkk]

Originally Posted by 88088

They opened at 12am? Hear say many of them take this chance to go short holiday. So I think even they open, got lesser girl than norm?

Yup many of my coyotes went back home since Monday. lol. Some bars at cowboy were closed on Wednesday. Eve of holiday. Doubt any bars were open the past two nights. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Jiraiya]

Hi all senior bros, is nana place open tonight? Heard last 2 nights they are close..
Anyone to advise me.. Thank u

[TonyCheong2]

Originally Posted by Jiraiya

Hi all senior bros, is nana place open tonight? Heard last 2 nights they are close..

Open lah but could be lesser girls as per vbkk's analysis.

If you don't have any good catch at Nana Plaza you might want to try fishing outside Nana Hotel carpark or stroll down to Thermae Cafe for FLs.
Be careful of ladyboys molesting and pickpocket you along Sukhumvit Road.

Good luck!

[vbkk]

Originally Posted by Jiraiya

Hi all senior bros, is nana place open tonight? Heard last 2 nights they are close..
Anyone to advise me.. Thank u

Bars resumed operation tonight.

Originally Posted by TonyCheong2

Open lah but could be lesser girls as per vbkk's analysis.

If you don't have any good catch at Nana Plaza you might want to try fishing outside Nana Hotel carpark or stroll down to Thermae Cafe for FLs.
Be careful of ladyboys molesting and pickpocket you along Sukhumvit Road.

Good luck!

I could be wrong at times regarding bars too. Patpong was not opened during the past two days. Probably insider news from other bro was a little misleading. Must be pay not enough kopi $ for the police kaptain.