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Even Batam Man also put his HP in his pocket .. the rest of us must follow suit
Well, its a matter of common sense. Nobody is perfect and having worked in indonesia and cheong longer than me, he has my respect! LONG LIVE INDONESIA!!!
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(1) The incident that occurred at Ozon not really "suay" as you put it bluntly. We dont deal with strangers (that i considered stupid). Here we are talking about a cowok (workpermit holder) working with a sillyporean company. Two to three times a week this cowok would man the ferry from sillypore to batu ampar. My friend work in WTC and used to help this cowok (financially) and knew him @1 1/2 years. He trusted him and who would expect the latter to back-stab my friend! The last time we heard from other masters, that fucker fled to T Pinang (Slightly safer than batam in terms of security). He abused our trust!

(2) The 2nd incident that happened at sekupang was pure ignorant (not suay). How are we to know that those fuckers bribed the porters and have access to the ferry and they actually robbed us in BROAD DAYLIGHT! Would you (if you are in my position) expect to be "ambushed" that way? Those fucking indonesian chinese passengers never even came to our assistance! After the incident, CCB can tell us " ae pai, ai seo siem ". KNN, once bitten twice shy. Some more want 2nd time?

Lets say i start the ball rolling by sharing my unpleasant experience with brudders here so that they be careful when they are in batam. Just a small contribution to this thread........
Bro, no need to be so down cos Batam still got its charm .. if not why so many ppl still flock there? hahaha

Okie, here is my share of own encounter:

Got to know the previous Executive Chef Of Island View cos I stay there quite often. One morning, he approached me saying that he can get his personal driver to drive me to view some cina gals who has decent job in the day and can work as part time FL.. he quoted me Rp250,000. I just smile smile ..
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Old 23-12-2004, 08:53 PM
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Re: Hotels in Batam

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Ok I have to agree with you that sometimes in Indonesia, things like that might happened to you if you are at the wrong place at the wrong time.
But for all your previous (negative) cases, I think you are just plain sway man...
I don't encountered serious con cases over at batu, balai or Tp. If I am plain suay (as you claimed), I would have share my experiences with samsters here. Minor cases like being shortchanged by the "farmers" are quite common be it at eating places, taxi etc. Over at the above three places, i could walk alone even at nite with no feeling of uneasiness. No stares or "farmers" pestering you (though at times we have holligan drivers at the jetty gate at TP) when you walk along the road at nite. But i cant say the same for batam.

In fact, this afternoon i just came back from batam. Wow, complete change compared to 4yrs back. Batam Centre much better than batu ampar. Ok, slight improvement at the jetty. No more those touts at the ctr. But at Nagoya, still have some "farmers" giving you that kind of unfriendly stares. I already immune to it! PLANET HOLIDAY...thumbs up man! The casino...SUPERB! Heard prices of petrol going up soon at batam. Be prepared to cough out more for your tpt....
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Bro, no need to be so down cos Batam still got its charm .. if not why so many ppl still flock there? hahaha

Okie, here is my share of own encounter:

Got to know the previous Executive Chef Of Island View cos I stay there quite often. One morning, he approached me saying that he can get his personal driver to drive me to view some cina gals who has decent job in the day and can work as part time FL.. he quoted me Rp250,000. I just smile smile ..
Guess you know what I am thinking too.
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I don't encountered serious con cases over at batu, balai or Tp. If I am plain suay (as you claimed), I would have share my experiences with samsters here. Minor cases like being shortchanged by the "farmers" are quite common be it at eating places, taxi etc. Over at the above three places, i could walk alone even at nite with no feeling of uneasiness. No stares or "farmers" pestering you (though at times we have holligan drivers at the jetty gate at TP) when you walk along the road at nite. But i cant say the same for batam.

In fact, this afternoon i just came back from batam. Wow, complete change compared to 4yrs back. Batam Centre much better than batu ampar. Ok, slight improvement at the jetty. No more those touts at the ctr. But at Nagoya, still have some "farmers" giving you that kind of unfriendly stares. I already immune to it! PLANET HOLIDAY...thumbs up man! The casino...SUPERB! Heard prices of petrol going up soon at batam. Be prepared to cough out more for your tpt....


Ok Ok bro, sorry I salah, you not sway, but just being a little bit unlucky nia...
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[QUOTE= Those fucking indonesian chinese passengers never even came to our assistance! After the incident, CCB can tell us " ae pai, ai seo siem ". KNN, once bitten twice shy. Some more want 2nd time?

"Suay"? Lightning strike twice at the same spot? Vely unlikely for me, touch wood. I am very sure I am not the only victim of being at the wrong place and at the wrong time. Lets say i start the ball rolling by sharing my unpleasant experience with brudders here so that they be careful when they are in batam. Just a small contribution to this thread........ [/QUOTE]

Chinese indo dont help u becos they dont want trouble also. Typical of chinese everywhere. Ah Q sprit.

If they see you rich they jealous, see you poor, look down on you. See you got trouble, stand aside to watch, kana bully, hope others will stand for them.

I hope these words dont offend anyone, but it is a simple truth if you care to ope your eyes to see. Not all like that, but I encountered a lot liao
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Chinese indo dont help u becos they dont want trouble also. Typical of chinese everywhere. Ah Q sprit.

If they see you rich they jealous, see you poor, look down on you. See you got trouble, stand aside to watch, kana bully, hope others will stand for them.

I hope these words dont offend anyone, but it is a simple truth if you care to ope your eyes to see. Not all like that, but I encountered a lot liao
I believe such mentality is quite universal but I agree that such is more intensed in Batam or Indo probably due to the past suppression of cina ethnic group by the SuHaT* regime ... the minority fear still reside in most cinas
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I imply what you mentioned is correct and we must follow your good guide .. lidat say got salah meh?
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I believe such mentality is quite universal but I agree that such is more intensed in Batam or Indo probably due to the past suppression of cina ethnic group by the SuHaT* regime ... the minority fear still reside in most cinas


If they see you rich they jealous, see you poor, look down on you.
Sad to say, but I'll politely say that 50% of all Chinese all over the world are like that.
Chinese can be considered as the most kiasu people around
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Chinese indo dont help u becos they dont want trouble also. Typical of chinese everywhere. Ah Q sprit.

If they see you rich they jealous, see you poor, look down on you. See you got trouble, stand aside to watch, kana bully, hope others will stand for them.

I hope these words dont offend anyone, but it is a simple truth if you care to ope your eyes to see. Not all like that, but I encountered a lot liao
I cant agree with you more! Thats why I still stand by my statement never trust those "farmers" 100%! Especially if it involves business venture, make sure it goes thru' legal channel. As for entertainment or lobang to cheong, those indonesian "farmers" (whether they are chinese, jawa, batak, padang etc...) just needed to be tipped & you will be comfortably taken care of. I believe another decade or two, their government and their people mentality would still remain unchanged i.e. bribery, corruption, nepotism, frauds.....would still be permanent features in this country of thousands pathetic island!
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Bro, thats their way of life eh.

From a different perspective, we sort of have a comparative advantage (or take advantage ??) when we hop over since their certain aspects of living standards/public administrations is 'not so good' by Sg standards.

I would consider myself very fortunate to live, work and stay in Sinkapor.

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