Shanghai "In Conversation" Views, News & Reviews

[just4fun]

Originally Posted by shanghaitan

Kudos to you bro! Keep up the good work! And don't hesitate to drop by Shanghai and join in the "festivities" happening all around town all year round! There are regular gatherings of bros here led by the great Bro SGP69 and gang (Ultraman, WhamBamTYM, Maverick, Junior_cannibal.. just to name a few... )

Cheerio~!
BLAND

Thanks...Our fellow suzhou kakis are also looking forward to join the shanghai club...So happening as alway

[ChinaAlleWay]

Originally Posted by shanghaitan

Hi Bro ChinaAlleWay,
I've seen a few "Adult" shops in Shanghai but have not checked out what they sell... the last time I went into one was in another province.. but being a small town, maybe the "range" is not as comprehensive? Not too sure.. please provide more info..

Cheerio~!
BLAND...

over here is kinda like those forking small shops....
hmmm... i know nuts about Shanghai !!!! haha..
can Argue with them about the prices thou... maybe half price ?

Take care & more WAter !!!

Horny Thursday !!! LOL

[ciakpachineng]

Originally Posted by just4fun

July 14, 2005
3,800 cancel monthly donations

Damn swee...this really makes my day. Been waiting for such scams to get what they deserve. And the best part is this Durai guy brought it on himself...he must have been so overconfident and complacent that public has complete trust in him that he goes after SPH for such small minor report on gold taps. If he just let that pass, he could carry on his lavish lifestyle. Reminds one of the serial killer who is so confident that he openly leaves clue so that others can catch him.

Anyway, tks bro just4fun for the updates...

[just4fun]

July 15, 2005
NKF CEO and board quit

Interim chairman expected by weekend and a new board to be constituted quickly
By Bertha Henson
SUPERVISING EDITOR (HOME)

THEIR faces grim, National Kidney Foundation chief T.T. Durai and board chairman Richard Yong emerged from the Health Ministry building at 3.30pm yesterday.

They were hustled into cars, declining to say what had transpired during their meeting earlier with Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan.

This was what happened.

They had gone to consult Mr Khaw on what they should do in the wake of public outrage over the way the NKF rewarded its chief and misled people into thinking it needed more money.

They were told 'the status quo would not do'.

They asked if the board should make way for new leaders. Mr Khaw's reply: 'That would certainly be very helpful.' That phrase marked the end of a 37-year association between Mr Durai and Singapore's largest charity.

At 6.30pm, Mr Khaw announced the resignation of Mr Durai and the entire NKF board at a press conference attended by Mr Durai, Mr Yong and NKF board vice-chairman Alwyn Lim.

Asked about his future, the NKF CEO of 13 years told reporters that his 'paramount interest' now was to help Mr Khaw in the transition stage.

Businessman Piragasam Singaravelu, 45, whom the NKF sued for libel in December 1998, described the en masse resignation last night as the 'best news for Singaporeans, especially those who donated to NKF'.

Right up to yesterday morning, it had looked as though Mr Durai, 57, intended to ride out the controversy that began with NKF's lawsuit against The Straits Times over expensive toilet fittings - and ended with disclosures it had paid its CEO $1.8 million over three years, allowed him first class air travel and maintained his private car.

Calls for Mr Durai's resignation escalated with close to 40,000 signatures put on an online petition, and more than 6,800 donors cancelling their monthly contributions to the charity in two days.

The NKF Cancer Show on Channel U last night made no attempt to solicit donations from the viewing public, in line with the suspension of canvassing activities.

Mr Khaw hopes to find an interim chairman by the weekend and get a board constituted quickly to review NKF's practices, serve kidney patients and restore public confidence in the institution.

Among the board's tasks: To determine if the NKF reserves, now standing at $260 million, would last 40 years as in the 'rosy picture' painted in the media, or the NKF's 'tragic' three years.

Despite the 'unfortunate turn of events', Mr Khaw issued the reminder that the NKF had done much good over the years, with Singapore's dialysis care among the best in the world.

The NKF had transformed itself into such an effective fund-raiser that it was he who had asked Mr Durai to branch into serving cancer patients as well, he disclosed.

Although some might argue that 'some of the techniques may be a little bit outside OB markers', he said he was in favour of more 'NKFs' with professionals running their fund-raising operations.

With one big caveat.

Because the 'stakeholders' are donors, they need to know as much as possible about the finances and practices of those out for the charity dollar.

'As I always maintain, donation is voluntary. So it is self-regulating in that sense because if you are so opaque, secretive or whatever, who would donate to you? But the more transparent you are, I think you win greater public trust,' he said.

The larger issue, however, is whether Singaporeans are ready for charities to be run like corporations with key performance indicators and employment contracts.

He asked: 'Should VWOs be uncontroversial and remain amateurish, old-style, collect little... or is there not a place in Singapore for a different kind of VWO?'

But what was clear: he himself would continue donating to the NKF because patients would benefit. The question of whether too much money had been collected could always be settled by channelling the money to other causes.

He made a plea to the public not to delve into 'history', but to restore the NKF by building on its strengths. 'I am determined to help... NKF... emerge from this incident even stronger so that patients continue to be served.'

Last night's announcement of an interim committee replacing the current board was welcomed all round. Those contacted want the committee to go through NKF books with 'a fine-tooth comb', as insurance adviser Robert Young, 53, put it.

Said Mr Brandon Lee, 33, a businessman: 'We also want the Government to put in measures to make sure such things don't happen again.'

Mr Johari Marzuki, 46, father of four and an NKF patient for 15 years has only one item on his wish list: 'I hope people don't react emotionally and cancel their donations. There are so many lives that depend on it.'

[just4fun]

July 15, 2005
Mrs Goh Chok Tong steps down as charity's patron

THE wife of Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong has resigned as patron of the National Kidney Foundation .

She said her decision was triggered by the NKF Board's resignation to let a new board be appointed to recover public confidence in the organisation. 'To give the NKF a fresh start, I have also decided to relinquish my position as patron,' she said in a three-paragraph statement.

Mrs Goh, who had said she was fully behind Mr Durai after he dropped the NKF suit against The Straits Times on Tuesday, noted NKF's noble mission in helping people with failed kidneys for more than 30 years. She added: 'This has been a sad and unfortunate episode.'

She hoped that Singaporeans would continue to support NKF's efforts. 'As patron, my concern has been to help the patients and their families. I am deeply grateful to Singaporeans for supporting NKF through the years,' she said.

Her statement was issued within an hour of Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan's announcement that NKF board members and chief executive T.T. Durai were stepping down. Mr Khaw had expressed the hope that she would stay on to help him in the NKF, but 'it's really a decision she has to make herself'.

He also took pains to explain that a patron has no board or management responsibilities.

He himself is a patron of some temples. 'They always invite us because they think, and it is true, (we are a) useful public symbol to help them in fund-raising.' Then with a laugh, he made a confession: 'I really don't know what they are doing and so on, although... I attend some of their functions. I hope they are doing the right thing.'

[shanghaitan]

Originally Posted by ChinaAlleWay

can Argue with them about the prices thou... maybe half price ?

Hi Bro ChinaAlleWay,
I didn't know that prices are negotiable!! Hmm... half price?? Wow!! Any bros with such experiences? Please enlighten those who are feeling looking to try out something new to "spice up" their sex lifes...

Cheerio~!
BLAND

[shengge]

Originally Posted by shanghaitan

Anyone knows where "adult" toys can be bought? Any type in particular has been tried and tested? What are the "effects"? Some bros will have GFs who are into Kinky stuff.. any nice contributions for this thread?

Dear Bro Shanghaitan,
If there is any of your lady friends need a toy, I have one offer for rental...
Money backs guarantee.

[SGPshanghai69]

Originally Posted by shengge

Dear Bro Shanghaitan,
If there is any of your lady friends need a toy, I can offer mine for rental...
Money backs guarantee.

Well said bro!!!
Adults shops are around town literally everywhere insight pal.....the most prominent shop is just outside Peace Hotel...
Cheerios...

[shengge]

Originally Posted by SGPshanghai69

Adults shops are around town literally everywhere insight pal.....the most prominent shop is just outside Peace Hotel...

Dear Big Bro of Shanghai,
Again you have shown your rich knowledge about Shanghai.
Glad to see that under your organization, COO, over Shanghai there is a common group of bros meeting once a while, and the group is growing. Also very happy to see that you guys are enjoying yourselves very much. Thanks!

Well, it is TGIF, another party night for you guys. Have fun!

SG

[SGPshanghai69]

Originally Posted by shengge

Dear Big Bro of Shanghai,
Again you have shown your rich knowledge about Shanghai.
Glad to see that under your organization, COO, over Shanghai there is a common group of bros meeting once a while, and the group is growing. Also very happy to see that you guys are enjoying yourselves very much. Thanks!

Well, it is TGIF, another party night for you guys. Have fun!

SG

Bro Shengge,
Thanks for the compliments. Nothing to it as I believed many bros knew about that shop locality as it's on the busiest street, infront of the most renown hotel in Shanghai city though....

Indeed we bros had a few great gatherings lately but not to my effort though but rather to everyone's effort in participating in it.

Just had a little makan session at Bro WhambamTYM's house together with Bro Caffeine on Sunday. Cooked up a little 'storm' i.e. curry chicken, sweet & spicy pork ribs, Sambal Balachan 'La-la' cockles, Balachan Kangkong.....yummy! Had a relaxing night there chatting away, watching DVDs.

Preferred more on such makan sessions though....fills one's tummy & also served the purpose on catching up as well....most of all, less harm on both health & pocket.

Till then, cheerios to all bros....
Best regards,

[shanghaitan]

Originally Posted by SGPshanghai69

Indeed we bros had a few great gatherings lately but not to my effort though but rather to everyone's effort in participating in it.

Well done Big Bro SGP69!
Let me assure you that the work of an organizer is no less important, if not more, than the participants'.. for without an organizer, there will be no gatherings to talk about.. KUDOS TO BIG BRO SGP69 (A big round of applause please!)

Good to see you back in full action and living the life that you are born to live! Best wishes in all your future endeavours and lead the bros to Light!

Cheerio~!
BLAND...

[SGPshanghai69]

Originally Posted by shanghaitan

Well done Big Bro SGP69!
Let me assure you that the work of an organizer is no less important, if not more, than the participants'.. for without an organizer, there will be no gatherings to talk about.. KUDOS TO BIG BRO SGP69 (A big round of applause please!)

Good to see you back in full action and living the life that you are born to live! Best wishes in all your future endeavours and lead the bros to Light!

Cheerio~!
BLAND...

Dear Bro Shanghaitan,
Greetings & a great thank you for your kinds words on me.
Merely arranging fellow bros once or twice to meet up together
for a meal or drinks that's all, nothing to it. No need for big words or big thank you....
Moreover, there also bros like Maverick 72, WhamBamTYM, Junior_Cannibal, etc. do also organised gatherings or meeting up many atimes with fellow bros as well.
It's always feel great to meet up with fellow bros here to chat about all things be domestic or about one's work...

Do join us if u can spare the time bro. The bros don't always end up partying but rather at times we all do sit down for a quiet night out ob=ver a simple meal or a couple beers only....

Look forward to seeing u bro....wish u well on all your work endeavours...Last but not least, I'm a Piscean...which says I'm never a leader so don't think I fit the bill on leading the fellow bros here....

[PuTonRen]

Dear Bro SGP,

You are doing great on your returning to the Forum. I am sure many bros appreciate your effort in organising outings, not necessary cheonging sessions, but can be a simple chit-chating session that I myself enjoy a great deal. I hope that you can keep the momentum going, as during my next trip to Shangahai, I would have to count on you to help gathering the brothers for a nice little gathering.

Keep it up to round up friends in Shanghai, and also your new endeavour.

Like they say "Tomorrow will be a better day", if you make it so.

My 2 cent worth

PTR aka UFO

[shanghaitan]

Originally Posted by SGPshanghai69

Do join us if u can spare the time bro...

Thank you BIG BRO for your kind invite.. Much appreciated.. really.. but I'm such a boring person to be around with.. don't want to be a "Party Pooper"..

As long as you guys are having fun, I'm contented..

Cheerio~!
BLAND...

[shanghaitan]

Originally Posted by PuTonRen

Like they say "Tomorrow will be a better day", if you make it so.

My 2 cent worth
PTR aka UFO

Dear Big Big Bro PuTonRen!
Well said! Tomorrow will always be better.. it cannot rain all the time.. right?

My simple philosophy is:
It's just a matter of not commiting the same "mistakes" over and over again.. to make mistakes is human.. to draw experience from mistakes is wise.. to make the same mistakes over and over again is pure stupidity...

Weather the storm and come out stronger.. but stronger not necessarily mean prouder.. and that's what I admire about you my Big Big Bro! So learned yet truly humble and ever so willing to share life's learnings.. so much to learn from you..

Sincerely,
... BLAND...