Maid for Sex

[earth]

Originally Posted by proprimate

It doesn't mean that it has changed my life or wat. It dun mean I've gone straight or wat. It means I would be more wary of my next FL and the amt tat I may be wasting for a dead log and hurry hurry u type of bitch. Hope that answers ur question. Cheers!

You must try the thai ger by the agent here. That is what value for money.


earthy

[proprimate]

Originally Posted by proprimate

Bros,
Click on the link for the post I put up for Yanti and decide for yourself. How much? There is no criteria in that category. It is your sincere gesture, that's all. Here are the bros who are willing to pledge their donations:

Proprimate
JT
Spider J
Panther 74 74
Laodi123456789
Desmond0604
Yingchong33
Sam33 (Pls tell me if u r willing)
Steed4
Tiger38

The list is growing and I hope it grows for a good cause, I promise. Those who do not wan to be named, I put it as eg Samaritan 1 and so on. The how will be made known soon after I discuss with several bros on how to go abt it. Please pass the word around. Cheers!

Thanks Bro Tiger38 for ur support. Cheers!

[proprimate]

Originally Posted by earth

You must try the thai ger by the agent here. That is what value for money.
earthy

Bro, care to share the contact? PM me. Cheers!

[earth]

Originally Posted by proprimate

Bro, care to share the contact? PM me. Cheers!

The late sky,plus Aj, win, Bo , sk , janny and E777 you never hear of?


earthy

[proprimate]

Originally Posted by earth

The late sky,plus Aj, win, Bo , sk , janny and E777 you never hear of?
earthy

Roger that. Cheers!

[coolmanks]

I have nothing against OKT as they provide a useful service and it is only fair that they get pay as well. Strangely very few OKT here will ever admit they are a OKT.

So long as you accepted the money that will make you a pimps or OKT. Even if the money is given to you willingly its make no different at all.

Furthermore even if she willingly give the $, why must you accept her money since as you has written that she is poor and have many mouths to feed whereas you are in a the "comfort zone" in Singapore with CPF saving?

Make no sense to me at all.

When real Indonesian maids came to Singapore they will usually take a loan from the agent to pay for their passage. They will have to work to pay off their loan first. Is it the case here as well? Even though she is not a real maid?

Then her agent must have suffer loses as she did not have the chance to work off her loan.

Is the trust fund mean to help her repay this loan?

BTW TIGER38 I am sure you are going to be ZAP for your post. Please PM me if you need help.

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For ur info, I dun ask, she willingly give me some money as a gesture of a good friend helping her. Not much but enough to bonk another FL, say an $80 PRC, once a month. Fair enough. So its not I wan, but she gave me, comprehendo my fren? Cheers![/QUOTE]

"Plus, she is a divorcee with a son to feed, brothers and sisters, parents to look after. U, my fren, is in the comfort zone of Singapore and may be actually a poorer bastards like all of us. Jus that we dun know it, tat's all. They dun have CPF savings to fall back on when they stop work. care to check the number of unemployed in Indonesia? So that's why I say, u r in the comfort zone. "

So I guess u must be one of those who asked her for a discount and hence the story has to come out that way, in order for u to pay the full amt. Coz if she was to say she own her own, then u will downrite bargain die die for $80 for 2 shots. Well, the woman has to protect herself from scrupulous bros like u. Dun take it too hard, coz mnay bros tried that ruse on her and I said to her to use that method for people like that. But if u r not one of those, then it shouldn't hurt u.

For ur info, I dun ask, she willingly give me some money as a gesture of a good friend helping her. Not much but enough to bonk another FL, say an $80 PRC, once a month. Fair enough. So its not I wan, but she gave me, comprehendo my fren? Cheers![/QUOTE]


Sorry Bro i am not that type of person to ask for discount or take money from FL i have try maid at least 5 time and the school girl also told me the same thing

i am not saying u cannot take money or they cannot give u money but as far as i am i don give a dum as i still thank u for the good contact

just what i think

THANK YOU

BTW TIGER38 I am sure you are going to be ZAP for your post. Please PM me if you need help.

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THANK U BRO

don worry the points mean nothing to me

[proprimate]

Bros,
Click on the link for the post I put up for Yanti and decide for yourself. How much? There is no criteria in that category. It is your sincere gesture, that's all. Here are the bros who are willing to pledge their donations:

Proprimate
JT
Spider J
Panther 74 74
Laodi123456789
Desmond0604
Yingchong33
Sam33
Steed4
mercury3031
desmond0604
lifeless99
cooler08

The list is growing and I hope it grows for a good cause, I promise. Those who do not wan to be named, I put it as eg Samaritan 1 and so on. The how will be made known soon after I discuss with several bros on how to go abt it. Please pass the word around. Cheers!

[proprimate]

coolmanks: I have nothing against OKT as they provide a useful service and it is only fair that they get pay as well. Strangely very few OKT here will ever admit they are a OKT. Would anyone shoot their own toes?

So long as you accepted the money that will make you a pimps or OKT. Even if the money is given to you willingly its make no different at all. Definition: A form of payment is mandatory for each client accepted, if not the gals would be beaten up & given harsh treatment. Then, I must be one of those rite?

Furthermore even if she willingly give the $, why must you accept her money since as you has written that she is poor and have many mouths to feed whereas you are in a the "comfort zone" in Singapore with CPF saving? It is because she has brains and she dun like to feel obligated to people like u. Coz people who dun except other people's favour dun owe anything. I am sure u know this. DO I really need to explain these fundamentals that people can't think as to why? How typical boxed-like thinking we have. Mebe, u stil have long way in life journey bro.

Make no sense to me at all.

When real Indonesian maids came to Singapore they will usually take a loan from the agent to pay for their passage. They will have to work to pay off their loan first. Is it the case here as well? Even though she is not a real maid?

Then her agent must have suffer loses as she did not have the chance to work off her loan. There is no agent, she own her own.

Is the trust fund mean to help her repay this loan? No, she dun pay to any agent because it cost too much and u r tied down. Even under them, no guarantee of ur safety, they just look u get caught and sigh abrt the loss of investment. No this is something like an insurance for loss of income coz cannot work.

Originally Posted by proprimate

So long as you accepted the money that will make you a pimps or OKT. Even if the money is given to you willingly its make no different at all. Definition: A form of payment is mandatory for each client accepted, if not the gals would be beaten up & given harsh treatment. Then, I must be one of those rite?

Bro, I think coolmanks is right in his statement.

According to CJ Yong Pung How’s Judgment in PP v Liew Kim Choo [1997] 3 SLR 699, S146(3) which he called as ‘Deeming Provision’ can be relied by the PP without first clearing S146(1). Hence in other words, it can be relied solely on it own.

CJ states that the offence under s 146(1) constitutes four major elements that must be proved by the PP beyond reasonable doubt:

1st ) the fact that prostitution has taken place;
2nd ) that earnings have been made from that prostitution;
3rd ) that the whole or part of those earnings or the benefit of those earnings have been received by the accused; and
4th ) that the accused received those earnings or their benefit with the knowledge that they were earned through prostitution

The 1st and 2nd Elements are as spelt above and only 3rd and 4th elements worth further detail discussion.

The 3rd Elements - Earnings or benefit thereof must be received by accused
This may be proved by the Accused Person receipt of such earnings, or alternatively that the earnings of prostitution were applied in support of the Accused Person daily living expenses.

CJ also considered the situation where the person charged does not actually receive money but accepts food, clothing and housing provided by the prostitute and paid for out of his or her earnings from prostitution, the issues are more sophisticated. This is because the broad wording of the statute lends itself to the construction that a child or sibling being supported by a prostitute is guilty of the s 146(1) offence. Even more far fetched is the scenario in which the prostitute donates some money each week to the beggar sitting in the corridor of her flat. The beggar is also guilty of the offence, provided he knows the donor to be a prostitute.

The 4th and final element is one of mens rea - Accused’s knowledge
The person receiving the money must know that the money or sustenance he is receiving consists of or is derived from the earnings of prostitution. Thus, a man whose wife prostitutes herself is not guilty of the offence in accepting a gift or meal from his wife unless he knows that she earned the money to purchase the gift or meal from her prostitution.

S146(3)
CJ, in the above case, is of the mind and is prepared to see whether the Accused Person can be convicted on S146(3) alone and he stated that for the deeming provision to take effect, the PP must have proved beyond reasonable doubt that the respondent either

1st) lived with or was habitually in the company of any prostitute or
2nd) exercised control, direction or influence over the movements of any prostitute in such a manner as to show that the respondent aided, abetted or compelled her prostitution with any other person or generally.

CJ read and applied the S146(3) into 2 alternatives for the PP to rely upon.

So in the light of S146(3), I am sorry to say that you are 'deemed' as OKT.

[proprimate]

Originally Posted by handsome_YD

Bro, I think coolmanks is right in his statement.

So in the light of S146(3), I am sorry to say that you are 'deemed' as OKT.

Woah! Bro, thanks for the info. I must say it is an eye opener alrite. Therefore, before I become a scapegoat in this fiasco, I suggest all other bros to be more careful in giving out contacts to newbies from now on. Which means, newbies of today, u r own ur own tsk tsk.

In this case, the IO must be damn tulan wit me and wan me to be in trouble. I guess he would go all the way to prosecute people like me and others to make our Singapore a more 'safer' place to live. Poor small fish like me when there are BIGGER fishes to catch out there who are raking in by the thousandss of dollars and I.........get a few bucks oso kena.

Well, if kena, must engage a good lawyer coz to prove such things is like finding a needle in a haystack. Where is the proof? I get money? Where is the money? Receipts? What receipts? She said? Oh she jealous of me. She prostitute? I din know that. She said she was working for a firm. Come on. U think I stupid or wat?

Now, for this case. When she tried to come in and got caught without any proof that she is gonna sell herself, is a little far fetched. For all u know, she wans to see me here. So wat I am doing is to help her for all the troubles she has been having here. U r giving money, knowing that she is 'nice' and wan to help her. Period. Cheers!

[john teo]

Originally Posted by handsome_YD

So in the light of S146(3), I am sorry to say that you are 'deemed' as OKT.

Brudder. checked all your posting very scary. all abt chapter( a) or chapter so and so. excuse me bro, r u a law enforcement officer hinting to us or what? Its ok to be transparent. we are all adult audience. Really appreciate if you unmask. we are all grateful for enlightening us. of course yr words will be more convincing if we know who you are. no offence. your posting is amazing. thanks for sharing.

[proprimate]

Bros,
Click on the link for the post I put up for Yanti and decide for yourself. How much? There is no criteria in that category. It is your sincere gesture, that's all. Here are the bros who are willing to pledge their donations:

Proprimate
JT
Spider J
Panther 74 74
Laodi123456789
Desmond0604
Yingchong33
Sam33
Steed4
mercury3031
desmond0604
lifeless99
cooler08
Luvurss

The list is growing and I hope it grows for a good cause, I promise. Those who do not wan to be named, I put it as eg Samaritan 1 and so on. The how will be made known soon after I discuss with several bros on how to go abt it. Please pass the word around. Cheers!

[proprimate]

Originally Posted by john teo

Brudder. checked all your posting very scary. all abt chapter( a) or chapter so and so. excuse me bro, r u a law enforcement officer hinting to us or what? Its ok to be transparent. we are all adult audience. Really appreciate if you unmask. we are all grateful for enlightening us. of course yr words will be more convincing if we know who you are. no offence. your posting is amazing. thanks for sharing.

Ya me oso wan to know. Mebe u can help us in our crusade. there must be a clause somewhere 'to help somebody in need' irregardless their profession. Please help us. Cheers!