Caught in raid

[sgpiggybank]

Originally Posted by SGBJ2016

It looks like there was a raid in Jurong West St 41. Came back from overseas, Called my ML, she told the shop is closed today. I have no more details. Anyone knows?

Bro,

I updated in the close social group already. All those ML will not be able to reply you if you message unless you are really close to them. Take note not to sent sensitive message in your msg to them...they need to report to police station regularly and they will detain to check their phone message at the same time.

[mpfire]

Originally Posted by Oldbox

Yes, cooperate is correct but if you were not caught red handed and av ask you if you are here for the extras, what should u say?

One ML told me there was one customer who told the av that he got extras from a ml in the spa, but since nobody was caught red handed during the raid, the spa/ml decided to contest the claim and in fact counter sue that customer. Dunno true or not, but the spa won the case and the customer had to pay damages.

Hahahaha! i only want to laugh when read this.
Spa sue customer for telling AV the truth and customer have to pay the damages....

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by Oldbox

One ML told me there was one customer who told the av that he got extras from a ml in the spa, but since nobody was caught red handed during the raid, the spa/ml decided to contest the claim and in fact counter sue that customer. Dunno true or not, but the spa won the case and the customer had to pay damages.

Guys, for those who wish to know more. Please read up about defamation in Singapore. It is highly unlikely that the spa can prove defamation had taken place. It is also highly unlikely the police will release the person's full personal data to the spa. Without full personal data, how does the spa serve the lawyer letters to this customer? I think this story is bullshit.

https://www.thesingaporelawyer.com/blog/defamation/

There is a legal tactic called lawfare where you threaten to sue someone for a sum of money but you give this person an option to settle for a lower amount if they concede early. Basic scare mongering. That anti-vaxxer has used this tactic in Singapore quite successfully.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sing...-costs-4784361

However, our courts have closed this loophole.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sing...lation-4761786

The basic rule apply. Please be honest to our police should you ever be involved in a raid. No point flouting the law by lying to save a ML who is nobody to you.

If a spa owner wants to play punk with the police, it's easy to get MOM in to check on staff numbers. How are the ghost workers employed within the spa? Are these workers really employed? Those CPF accounts that is topped up monthly to maintain work permit headcount.

[sgpiggybank]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

Guys, for those who wish to know more. Please read up about defamation in Singapore. It is highly unlikely that the spa can prove defamation had taken place. It is also highly unlikely the police will release the person's full personal data to the spa. Without full personal data, how does the spa serve the lawyer letters to this customer? I think this story is bullshit.

https://www.thesingaporelawyer.com/blog/defamation/

There is a legal tactic called lawfare where you threaten to sue someone for a sum of money but you give this person an option to settle for a lower amount if they concede early. Basic scare mongering. That anti-vaxxer has used this tactic in Singapore quite successfully.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sing...-costs-4784361

However, our courts have closed this loophole.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sing...lation-4761786

The basic rule apply. Please be honest to our police should you ever be involved in a raid. No point flouting the law by lying to save a ML who is nobody to you.

If a spa owner wants to play punk with the police, it's easy to get MOM in to check on staff numbers. How are the ghost workers employed within the spa? Are these workers really employed? Those CPF accounts that is topped up monthly to maintain work permit headcount.

99.99% Spa owner uses relatives, old people or get many share holders to get head counts. If want to catch 99.99% Spa all closes. Gov not stupid, as long as you pay CPF is as good as paying GOV protection fees. Many industries do these especially Offshore and construction. Free money for Gov why dun they take. Checking and closing all these kills industries and reduce Gov pocket money. Anything you do in SG, as long as u pay Gov. All are legal.

[kennese2006]

thanks bro, how'd you ID cat 1 and cat 2 then?

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Actually there is no Cat 3. Its just a term '三号店' used frequently in massage industry by the ML and us as customer. You go to spf website, there is only Cat1 and Cat 2 establishments which are regulated by spf.

There there is TCM which fall under the jurisdiction of MOH. This widely termed Cat 3, 三号店.

The One secret Spa that is advertise here, i have not been to as travelling to Serangoon is very inconvenient for me. I know it is a fuck shop. I check biz directory, they are registered as 'beauty services' so massage is illegal if they did not apply to spf. If you do not need to register ic before entry, then its tell tale sign they no apply to spf for massage license. anyway its fuck shop leh... so it is illegal anyway

[tournedos]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Actually there is no Cat 3. Its just a term '三号店' used frequently in massage industry by the ML and us as customer. You go to spf website, there is only Cat1 and Cat 2 establishments which are regulated by spf.

There there is TCM which fall under the jurisdiction of MOH. This widely termed Cat 3, 三号店.

The One secret Spa that is advertise here, i have not been to as travelling to Serangoon is very inconvenient for me. I know it is a fuck shop. I check biz directory, they are registered as 'beauty services' so massage is illegal if they did not apply to spf. If you do not need to register ic before entry, then its tell tale sign they no apply to spf for massage license. anyway its fuck shop leh... so it is illegal anyway

I heard OSS closed alr anyway