Ultimately, the lady still wins because of the RTMs.
It's really a mindfucking game for both parties. Can be fun and exciting mindfucking each other though.
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Originally Posted by Franco_Barsei
Just some random thoughts for those seeking to unlock: at the end of the day, it's still about money.
Thinking that repeated RTMs will make her more comfortable with you so that she can be unlocked gradually is perhaps a bit misguided.
That being said, you're paying for each RTM, so it's money indirectly at work here.
I think some ladies want to stay unlocked, or at most allow themselves to be semi-unlocked, so that some of their customers will keep coming in the hope that more chemistry can lead to the ultimate goal. Even if the guy gives up eventually, the lady will be the winner coz of the RTMs.
Have a good weekend, pals!
True, but if given the same amount or a little top up for more/extra service provided,
The MLs get what they came here for, chiongsters too, gotten what they’re paying for,
I won’t say who wins or lose here as ultimately it’s still transactions between both parties.
Unless service drop over RTMs then we better move on fast before spending more on $$$ on a single ML,
Treat it as paying tuition fee, unless we don’t learn/grow from the experience.
Einstein quote “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
Will return favour when i’m charged Bro.
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Originally Posted by MiG27
Really depends on how much disposable income that Bro has. Some Bros money come easy to them.
These expensive gifts are nothing to them.
If after giving them gifts n get to unlock, why not?
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Originally Posted by ddae44
True enough. End of the day I feel they are not going to be here forever with you.
If they start asking expensive gifts, maybe that’s an alarm, perhaps we might give but think of it, if you don’t give, other guys will give and she end up with another guy.
If still couldn’t get to unlock after gifting?
Shouldn’t be what we chiongsters feel but what they feels plays a part too,I believed there are many married Bros here
and I’m sure none would like to give up their family/marriage for MLs, we’re not going to spend
the rest of our life with them, they know this too.
If they end up with other guys so be it, two can play that game. Move on
If a ML starts asking for expensive gifts, thats the last time she will see me, period.
As for the notion of ‘if I don’t buy for her, she’ll end up with another guy’... Hey, regardless of whether you give her that $5k LV bag, she is still gonna be servicing another bro the next hour isn’t it? She will never truly be yours, so why bother?
If a ML starts asking for expensive gifts, thats the last time she will see me, period.
As for the notion of ‘if I don’t buy for her, she’ll end up with another guy’... Hey, regardless of whether you give her that $5k LV bag, she is still gonna be servicing another bro the next hour isn’t it? She will never truly be yours, so why bother?
If a ML starts asking for expensive gifts, thats the last time she will see me, period.
As for the notion of ‘if I don’t buy for her, she’ll end up with another guy’... Hey, regardless of whether you give her that $5k LV bag, she is still gonna be servicing another bro the next hour isn’t it? She will never truly be yours, so why bother?
Another guy can easily give her a $6k, or even $10k, LV bag, making your $5k gift a pale comparison.
Earlier this year, an ML quoted me $500 for overnight booking.
I did a number of overnights many years back for $300.
What's the market rate nowadays?
$300 yup agreed bro last time and afew nowadays but it it varies to 'different' ML cos some might upsell.
Then again, i don't do this anymore.
Just visit touch and go only.
Visited her though her looks even in the pics not my type, look abit like an ex-colleague and her hairstyle probably. Nice skin though with boobs accurately described by many of the previous MRs. Abit slouched shoulders but nothing too serious.
Well in person she look the same so no surprises, pleasant or unpleasant. Probably affected the session in way it was not so engaging.
Service wise however she was tip top and massage was actually not too bad. Sensual and roaming signal is up there, maybe a tad too much for me but many dudes wouldn't mind.
Very likely to RTM to make up for the lack of services from other MLs.
Thanks bro for the MR. Will update again from my POV after I try her.
How many of you will be willing to buy an expensive gift for ML? Especially they told you what they want eg.handbag, wallet, watch or jewellery
Come a show of hands
A Big No. This is all those bullshit KC game basic entrance fee element. They can see which customers are more priority when it comes to appointments. If you get them a handbag, they will coax you and say only you had this privilege.
These thing will get you on ego making you think you are special RTM is never a fail to them. If your mind are strong for all this game carry on, if not just a normal rtm or move on to other ML will do ...
True enough. End of the day I feel they are not going to be here forever with you.
If they start asking expensive gifts, maybe that’s an alarm, perhaps we might give but think of it, if you don’t give, other guys will give and she end up with another guy. Just feel that the values has been twisted but sadly this line is toxic with their fellow friends always showing off what they got from other guys, making them also yearning for such special treatment
I don't think it is about yearning for special treatment or showing off.
You need to wake up bro. What makes you think even by giving she will not ask from another guy? She is here to work and earn, a little teasing and feeling loved or specially treated is understandable. She needs not work like a slave but that does not mean you need to be a carrot head.
End of the day she is going to go, or get caught and sent back, and never able to step back here into our shores. You can have a little fun but never ever invest your feelings too deep into it. It is all transactional and it MUST be transactional.
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Originally Posted by Franco_Barsei
Yes. But each RTM is still $$$. That's why I said even if she's comfortable with you to allow you to unlock, money is still indirectly involved. Unless one can visit her without paying.
From a mainly HJ-only guy who joined the unlocking game only recently.
Even if one can visit without paying, I think we should never fall into that trap. i was given many chances to not pay, even told to, but I always pay. When you do not pay, you allow feelings to get in the way, and then you are going to mind this and mind that and realise at the end of the day, you cannot afford her. None of them are well to do enough to actually risk coming to singapore to work as an ML. They are here for money, maybe a husband but can you not mind it?
Paying cuts that off. That action means this is all transactional. I can be nice, but end of the day, I am paying for your time, your company and that's it. We can be friends, and to make it less transactional, sometimes i leave the money on the table rather than handing it directly to her. BUT I PAY AND TELL HER IT IS TRANSACTIONAL.
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Originally Posted by sighster
I managed to book the Natalie on a weekday afternoon recently.
Looks is 8/10 with makeup. The cute type
Body is slim with small boobs. Not for boobs lover
Service is very good. Cannot describe with words. Similar to Japanese AV porn that you see. Action starts the moment you enter. Definitely not for massage lovers.
RTM: Definitely
Business must be slow since she ask for FR lol!
She has to grow up and learn. I have not tried her till now. Messaged before, given a slot before and cancelled before, just never tried her before. Maybe will try again one day.
I managed to book the Natalie on a weekday afternoon recently.
Looks is 8/10 with makeup. The cute type
Body is slim with small boobs. Not for boobs lover
Service is very good. Cannot describe with words. Similar to Japanese AV porn that you see. Action starts the moment you enter. Definitely not for massage lovers.
RTM: Definitely
Business must be slow since she ask for FR lol!
She only has herself to blame.
Since counting from last year, I only visited her twice.
But she had cancelled on me at least 5 times since.
All last minute. I reached Liao then sms me.
Fine...
N also counting all those radio silence sms booking I sent to her....
Whatever...but her service is good....no deny.
Only the booking part n the last minute cancellation game she likes to play.
Really a very 'troublesome' one. Lol.
Einstein quote “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
Will return favour when i’m charged Bro.
If still couldn’t get to unlock after gifting?
Shouldn’t be what we chiongsters feel but what they feels plays a part too,I believed there are many married Bros here
and I’m sure none would like to give up their family/marriage for MLs, we’re not going to spend
the rest of our life with them, they know this too.
If they end up with other guys so be it, two can play that game. Move on
Thank you.
Spot on bro, spot on. Agree with your thoughts the most.
The formula isn't always the same (although $$$ works well), if the thoughts of ML are so easy to guess then we won't have such an interesting time.
Psychological game both ways, we have our considerations and they have theirs. Some might have their commitments back home, and different moral thoughts. Like our moral red line that we see sometimes.
Respect and trust also play a part, some will consider that a factor that they need to be comfortable with you before closer interactions. Sometimes she simply is disgusted with a certain customer, you think she will let someone they find disgusting piak them? Yup, you know the answer.
We won't have thousands of pages on this thread itself if things are that straightforward and simple. Think about it.
She has to grow up and learn. I have not tried her till now. Messaged before, given a slot before and cancelled before, just never tried her before. Maybe will try again one day.
She's okay but i would group as those just need try once enough.