True Love Story of a PRC woman and a Experienced Chengster

[hock19]

Originally Posted by jnudes

You are not experienced after all.......she is in love with your money. Which WL doesn't? Now you still want to be with her despite you have one happy family.

Divorce your wife to sort out this matter? Next time most likely she would ask you to kick your wife out like an animal from your home and you going to accept that?

Currently you are in a self-destruct mode. Eventually she will swallow all your wealth and make you a poor man. You are indeed playing a very dangerous game. And I dare to say she must have put some black magic on you too.

By the time you realized everything is too late already...

Totally agreed. And I just want to add one point. If she has feelings for you and is that kind of woman who you wish to be with in future, then she ought to know that she can still work, but not to fuck around with other people.

I have had such relationships and if she is genuine, she would not do what she is doing. Just note also that in Ktv, there are girls who only sit with you and not sleep with you, unless she really is in a relationship with you.

So if she is doing what she is doing, think what she might do later if she is indeed with you.

Wake up!

[K9696]

You said you are in cheong scene for more than 10 yrs...
not surprise.. Chinese says...

上得山多终遇虎.........................

You say you got career, you trade shares..etc...
so you know the game of share...
cut lost, before it is too late.

放手吧，回去看家里的老婆 - 还是她最好！

[porscheclub]

I'm beginning to doubt the TS as he's like writing a story for us to follow only.

[prcbrok]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Going singing drinking groping da bao ST in the nite scene does not make one an experienced cheongster.
An experienced cheongster is one who goes often & knows + understand the modus operandi of the nite scene, not just the joint/joints but also the GROs or singers.
Know how "THEY" make money, how they use reverse psychology, ego boosting words, emotional reverse mental games to make MOST MEN give what would be a straight "NO" if asked for. Then, and only then can u b called experienced.

U were just a number in the pool of sharks that was waiting for ur turn to be bitten.

Things u shud know now:

1) Read back what you wrote but look at it not from ur perspective but from a perspective of someone else reading what another person wrote. You will see ur flaw.
2) The oldest trick in a WLs book to make money is 希望记
If u looked at wat u wrote, the amount of 希望 u mentioned n applied on urself made u a very FAVOURITE candidate of these WLs
3) 可以娶一个鸡做老婆，不可娶一个老婆做鸡
For this case, as long as u cud pay the rent, meaning "HER", she's urs. The minute u cud not afford rent, it's on to the next better player
Since u mentioned ur 40+, u will know this song. The lyrics says everything

4) Even at the end of everything, u ask if anyone has any success or lived like u hv.
Actually, many have but hv disappeared in to oblivion wif no one to pity them or came out of it n became a master of this GAME.

Remember the golden sutra of every WL out there, be it PRC, Viet, Thai, Russian >> 感情记 / 希望记 = more $$$$$$$$$
Remember the golden sutra of a seasoned cheongster >> 感情记 / 希望记 = more free bonks, beating them at their own game. Then & only then, can u qualify as a seasoned cheongster.
As from ur posts, ur still a noobie noob

Last but not least, ur post show a very delusional person, one in deep denial of the REALITY of the situation. Truth hurts my friend, bite the bullet & face the truth.
Walk away & learn from it rather than holding on to water n drown from it

See my signature below on the golden rules & see how much u hv betrayed urself
So now, decision time.
To save urself, or kill urself wif ur own hand!

Bro Do_You_BJ
thank you for your advice. Actually I know all this tricks of theirs and analyze the same as what most of you have said. What I am trying to understand is why she still does not want to let me go, and i hope to swing things around again to be able to lead her out of this. If you recall my 1st few post i mentioned about my friend who first get himself into it, he has successfully converted the girl from KTV to hairdresser. My friend gave her only 3000 RMB a month.

My girl told me if she has no real love for me, she should have stop now. After all, I have given her so much and she know I am currently having some difficulties. She said why would she continue to hurt me. She said her friends advise her to break with me immediately becoz I am getting crazy and might kill her becoz I am too deep in love with her. But she cannot let go, she don't need any money from me. She now make 3 times more than what i given her. All she wanted is I continue the relationship. She said she need someone to genuine care for her.

I am a bit skeptical about this but I can feel the feeling from her is true. I will test by not giving money and see whether this relationship can continue.

I also expect that should someone appear and has the ability to "bao" her at 20K RMB and above per month, she will go for it and I am happy for her. Better than today where she has to earn that amount thru so many people.

Why I didn't blame her.? I asked myself can I commit to marry her? I cannot and what do you want her to do? My monthly allowance to her is only 8000 RMB. They can make 20 to 30 K a month. She has stay with me with that 8K monthly allowance for a year+. When her family has problem and needed the extra money I can't even help her.

I knew there is very small chance that we can be together for long. I cherish whatever time I can be with her and sincerely hope that someone stronger can take her and give her a better life.

The worst that could happen to me is she still scheme to squeeze me dry but I have learnt now to be extra careful with giving her the money. I hope she do have some conscience not to hurt me further, after all I truly love her and treated her very well.

I still believe there is Kan Ching from WL , there must be some success stories out there so I hope brothers out there can share.

Like most men, I always tell myself I can never forgive or accept the girl if she betray me and sleep with someone. I am shocked that I did accept this and continue to accept. So what will make me break away from her?

[prcbrok]

Originally Posted by porscheclub

I'm beginning to doubt the TS as he's like writing a story for us to follow only.

Why do you doubt me? I am sure there are many others who has similar problem like me and I am seeking their advice and what is the ending.

[prcbrok]

Originally Posted by porscheclub

I'm beginning to doubt the TS as he's like writing a story for us to follow only.

The problem with this forum and thread is people post their problem but I have yet to see people post their success stories. I know there are cases although not many, it's like 1 out of 1000 probably. My friend's case is the best. He is lucky as his girl does not have that family problem.

[prcbrok]

Originally Posted by hock19

Totally agreed. And I just want to add one point. If she has feelings for you and is that kind of woman who you wish to be with in future, then she ought to know that she can still work, but not to fuck around with other people.

I have had such relationships and if she is genuine, she would not do what she is doing. Just note also that in Ktv, there are girls who only sit with you and not sleep with you, unless she really is in a relationship with you.

So if she is doing what she is doing, think what she might do later if she is indeed with you.

Wake up!

Yes, she can work in KTV sitting only and don't go out. That level of income will be a lot lesser. One thing I forgot to mentioned is initially she wanted to work as sitting only and supplemented by my 8000 RMB monthly allowance. However I now can't even give the 8000RMB and after that 1st night betrayal which she still denied (recalled the drunken friend event and the question on which lift lobby)I t was the one telling her to go and make that money. I will stop all money and if you still want to continue the relationship, we can. I really regret making that statement.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by porscheclub

I'm beginning to doubt the TS as he's like writing a story for us to follow only.

Tks my good bro for the headsup. Will know its validity very shortly

Originally Posted by prcbrok

Bro Do_You_BJ
thank you for your advice. Actually I know all this tricks of theirs and analyze the same as what most of you have said.

If u know, then how could it be possible that these claims u claimed cud hv happened? Very contradicting u know

Originally Posted by prcbrok

What I am trying to understand is why she still does not want to let me go, and i hope to swing things around again to be able to lead her out of this.

R u sure she doesn't want to let u go? From ur posts, it's u who doesn't want to let go. U call every minute etc remember?

Originally Posted by prcbrok

22nd Aug – Part III tried calling her every minute, 247, 2.48, 2.49, 2.50 am …… until 3.47 and still no response. I felt a little relive as I thought she must have drunk, otherwise the fuck session should finished by 1 hour which statistically not any people achieve that. I continue to dial every minute until am, the phone ring tone indicates the phone is busy. I am confused, is she done now and tried to call her room mates or is she drunk and her buddy is trying to contact her room mate. I continue to call again every minute until next morning 09;30 am

Originally Posted by prcbrok

If you recall my 1st few post i mentioned about my friend who first get himself into it, he has successfully converted the girl from KTV to hairdresser. My friend gave her only 3000 RMB a month.

U sure u 40+? This kinda assumption coming from a 40+ is unbelievable. So, may I say if ur friend becomes a vegetarian or a monk, u can too?

Originally Posted by prcbrok

My girl told me if she has no real love for me, she should have stop now.

Is ur girl smart or r u dumb? Read wat u wrote. She wud hv stopped if she loved u. Tat's wat u claim she wrote. Well, she didn't stop. Wat does tat tell u now??

Originally Posted by prcbrok

After all, I have given her so much and she know I am currently having some difficulties. She said why would she continue to hurt me.

U buy this bull crap??? U sure u know the on goings in the nite scene???

Originally Posted by prcbrok

She said her friends advise her to break with me immediately becoz I am getting crazy and might kill her becoz I am too deep in love with her. But she cannot let go, she don't need any money from me. She now make 3 times more than what i given her. All she wanted is I continue the relationship. She said she need someone to genuine care for her.

This para is too.....way too unbelievable. For someone who claims he knows all abt the nitescene, u can even quote SHE SAY as though they were believable. Amazing

Originally Posted by prcbrok

I am a bit skeptical about this but I can feel the feeling from her is true. I will test by not giving money and see whether this relationship can continue.

Skeptical = Not Sure
Test = 希望

Originally Posted by prcbrok

I also expect that should someone appear and has the ability to "bao" her at 20K RMB and above per month, she will go for it and I am happy for her. Better than today where she has to earn that amount thru so many people.

What noble words, but from wat u wrote so far, it's actually not adding up to ur initial stance

Originally Posted by prcbrok

Why I didn't blame her.? I asked myself can I commit to marry her? I cannot and what do you want her to do? My monthly allowance to her is only 8000 RMB. They can make 20 to 30 K a month. She has stay with me with that 8K monthly allowance for a year+. When her family has problem and needed the extra money I can't even help her.

So if one day u hv monetary probs n ur parents or siblings can't help u, does not even bother to raise a finger to assist, does tat mean it's fine n totally acceptable too? U mean u know the on goings in the nitescene n they all hv probs, father in hospital, mother pregnant by pariah, grandmother need brain transplant, grandfather cannot erect need lanjiao transplant. U mean u know it all & this bull shit u dunno? Sure bo? These are the most commonly used BS by WLs

Originally Posted by prcbrok

I knew there is very small chance that we can be together for long. I cherish whatever time I can be with her and sincerely hope that someone stronger can take her and give her a better life.

This is para full fledged 拥抱希望欺骗自己

Originally Posted by prcbrok

The worst that could happen to me is she still scheme to squeeze me dry but I have learnt now to be extra careful with giving her the money. I hope she do have some conscience(拥抱希望） not to hurt me further, after all I truly love her and treated her very well.

Originally Posted by prcbrok

I still believe there is Kan Ching from WL , there must be some success stories out there so I hope brothers out there can share.

This statement confirms that u r not a full fledged lao jiao cheongster.
A full fledged cheongster believe only in this phrase: 欢场无真情，欢场无真爱

Originally Posted by prcbrok

Like most men, I always tell myself I can never forgive or accept the girl if she betray me and sleep with someone. I am shocked that I did accept this and continue to accept. So what will make me break away from her?

N yet u claim u know the on goings in the nitescene?

Bro porscheclub, I concur, this thread is fake. TS has too may contradicting statements n too many loop holes plus from the way he wrote, at most, someone who just started out to cheong n for sure, is on a budget.
Conclusion : FAKE THREAD

[prcbrok]

I know understand what is the meaning of experience cheongster. Having Cheong 10+ in nite scene and understand all their tactics to avoid putting KC in does not make you a experienced cheongster. At certain stage, when kan Ching kick in, it is not within your control.

The experienced cheongster is one who not only understand all the tactics of the nite scene and has trained to be hard hearted, no Kan Ching and ready to let go anytime.

We are people after all and having had the relation with her for close to 2 years, the Kan Ching is there and likewise I believe WL also has Kan Ching,

The fact that some of you doubt the story is because you or your friend has not gone thru this.

I am a reader of this forum for many years but I did not contribute any post. For this problem of mine I created a new account for the sake of getting different views from you folks.

[saabking]

Originally Posted by prcbrok

Bro Do_You_BJ

My monthly allowance to her is only 8000 RMB. They can make 20 to 30 K a month. She has stay with me with that 8K monthly allowance for a year+. When her family has problem and needed the extra money I can't even help her.

wah..you good huh..can do budget bao - 8K RMB a month? How you find such good bargain??!!..i thought market rates is already 20-30K RMB a month.

[stillgottheblue]

You fuckin, dickhead! You mentioned that you have difficulty paying her monthly allowance, yet you don't want her to work, to be fucked by other men, how's she going to survive?

A whore is a whore, they will not change because she love you or wants to be with you. They are in this trade for the fast money. Either you enjoy the fucking session with her while she still work and get fuck by other men or you get a clean break with her.

There are no lack of KTV women around who will get along with you if you have the financial means.

[porscheclub]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

N yet u claim u know the on goings in the nitescene?

Bro porscheclub, I concur, this thread is fake. TS has too may contradicting statements n too many loop holes plus from the way he wrote, at most, someone who just started out to cheong n for sure, is on a budget.
Conclusion : FAKE THREAD

Ai sey la Bro! I don't have the time to read everything & study his postings but anyone who's been through these will know.

TS is living in dilusion. He doesn't know the rules of engagement in keeping mistresses or having 3rd party GFs. He has a bit of money but not enough & certainly don't know how to manage such women so yes, he's the one not letting go. Painful to lose your $? S$100K is peanuts to some of us & that money could've bought better stock (woman/pussy). There's so much more we can write but well you guys know what I'm talking about.

If you're a player, just dump her & you'll see her crawling back to you. If she doesn't, no big deal. Next! But right now, she's controlling you.

Btw, we have a lot to learn from bro DO_YOU_BJ as he was the one who gave me light me in my dark days

[porscheclub]

Originally Posted by prcbrok

I know understand what is the meaning of experience cheongster. Having Cheong 10+ in nite scene and understand all their tactics to avoid putting KC in does not make you a experienced cheongster. At certain stage, when kan Ching kick in, it is not within your control.

The experienced cheongster is one who not only understand all the tactics of the nite scene and has trained to be hard hearted, no Kan Ching and ready to let go anytime.

We are people after all and having had the relation with her for close to 2 years, the Kan Ching is there and likewise I believe WL also has Kan Ching,

The fact that some of you doubt the story is because you or your friend has not gone thru this.

I am a reader of this forum for many years but I did not contribute any post. For this problem of mine I created a new account for the sake of getting different views from you folks.

You have KC with her but it's quite obvious that she doesn't have it for you. Come on man, you're spying over her like a leech. Why torment yourself over such a relationship & wasting your time? No wonder your fortunes are declining. You don't need monk or sifu, we can tell you right here, right now to let go.

CHOP!

FYI, there's nothing wrong (IMO) to love a WL & if she truly loves you? She'll be working hard in a decent job like anyone else, earning little but truthful or you get her a small business to manage. She'll want to go straight & never touch nightlife again. She'll save money for you & herself instead of digging for more because she loves you and don't want to burden you.

What she's doing is so classic. Her whole family is living in your condo now or maybe rented out some rooms & she's probably even conducting a brothel for extra income. You & her only had transactions based on money so whoever pays more get more attention from her, not love.

[newbieboy]

Uncle (wanted to call you bro but you too senior), you 40 plus, by the sound of your profile you are middle/upper management struggling with 2nd home purchase (probably co-owned with wife) and down 100k already a big hole appear in your finances. You cannot provide for her, she is half your age, everyday 10 dicks stronger than yours probably making or want to make advances on her, so what is it she gets from you? Water flowing don't mean orgasm ok, please refer to bro WB for more details.

Double age relationship, long distance, both parties struggling to make ends meet, you happy together? You think she's happy? I've stayed in many ktv girls apartments both in SG and China, you are a classic idiot they laugh about in their daily beer and watermelon seeds sessions at home.

If my Maths don't fail me, and the 100k you talk about includes the apartment purchase, then you really didn't spend much on her on a monthly basis. Please cut loss and stop contacting her. Blacklist her and find someone new. I've bad many relationships with these girls, they are mostly superficial.

You just go and count the odds of all this shit happening at the same time and tell me in the face you don't believe there's a scriptwriter involved in this. Her 小狼狗 is probably fucking her and draining her money as we speak. I managed to juggle three such relationships on one phone in one country, and I'm only an amateur compared with these girls.

From the first moment she saw you, she know you hook line and sinker already. Rejecting you for sex must have really hit you hard.

Face it uncle, you have no control, and things you can't control, you have to let go. If she really like you, don't say 8k rmb, 5k rmb she will be more than happy to stay at home and wait for your call everyday and cherish it like its birds nest, she will be happy to be a cashier at some shop and work or study part time, looking forward to you going back to her ASAP. Not like this, call don't pick up, ask which hotel lift to take, etc etc. you've been taken for a ride man.

Your big fishes are still locked in fixed assets, she's making one final push to drive you to insanity and liquidate everything, she doesn't care if your family ends up as collateral damage. You don't get off the ride now next year you'll be back with another thread saying sorry I didn't listen to the bros here, ended up divorcing my wife, selling my houses, shares, car, quitting my job and moving to China. Until one fine day my last yuan under her name, and she suddenly disappeared from my life, change number, sold apartment quietly and moved away. Then you find out that the "family" you met were all actors, and now you're pushing 50, no money no house no car, and dick growing ever softer, and have to type this thread from a wangba in some second tier city.

What is true love from a ktv girl? Either she never wanted money from you, or she can be at your beck and call 24/7 if you provide for her. For this case, true love would be asking you to spend money making her visa to come Singapore, where she can stay in a room you arranged for her so she can see you more often, not asking for a condo purchase. You understand or not??

[prcbrok]

Bro Newbieboy and Porscheclub,
What you said is starting to make me wake up. Yes, you are both right, I am the one who cannot let go and she is starting to gain control over me. For the past few days, her online chat with me is lesser and not so responsive and when I am not happy about this, she would get angry and threatened me saying "if you still want to be with me, then don't upset me with this small issues on non responsive chat. If you just let me be my own, then only I will love you deeply". This words couple with the advice from many Bros make me wake up and realise she is a bitch.

Bros, you make me realised that yes, she will squeeze everything out of me. I am scheduled to meet her next week in HK and she wanted me to buy her clothes, cosmetics, etc. As the spend on these are not big amount, it never cross my mind that after all, she can continue to get me to provide these. Now I recalled she wanted me to book the KTV room under her name in Oct when my bigger group come for Golf for a few days.

Her girlfriend called me yesterday and console me saying, "Its hard to take it for the 1st time your GF is sleeping to make money, but you will get used to it. its common in China, I have a husband as well". This is getting worse, they are trying to brainwash me.

Having heard all advice from so many bros and friends, everyone is telling to stop otherwise I will be left with nothing.

I have decided to stop and am adamant to do so, especially the past few nights on her change of attitude. She becomes uncaring and cold.

Since I decided to stop, which option would you suggest?
1. Stop immediately, don't ever contact or see her again.
2. I know this WL is a shit, just played along and fuck and don't give any money (after all she said she don't want any money from me).After 1 or 2 visit she will not want to take leave to accompany me and she will stop seeing me.
3. Stop having the KC with her. However, treat her like any WL, and the next time I visit and I can decide whether to engage her services or others.

I appreciate all the bros here for their advice and you make me wake up to reality.

Hope that I will be a stronger player the next time.