Ever fall in love with a massage girl

[RedFurBull]

Originally Posted by Unseenuser

The ML I met was from Vietnam, she said she is working as a ML because she is not like her other friends who has an education and can work in Vietnam with higher pay as she only get paid $600sgd per month in Vietnam and she told me on the first day that her family is poor and she is doing this so she can send her sister to school and help her family. She said she do not treat me as a customer and value our relationship lolol.

And correct me if I am wrong but I thought if they work in sg they actually need to have education and some qualifications and I’m talking abt ML in general, something like diploma as the minimum. So if that’s the case how did this Vietnam ML said she do not even have an education?

But even though she said she is poor, her Instagram shows quite the opposite, everything is luxurious lifestyle. Fine dining, branded items you name it and it is in her ig. So it really made me question myself, is she as poor as she claims? Because if she is so poor, she would not spend all the money she made here on luxurious lifestyle right? She would rather use the money to help her “poor” family first. It just does not make sense.

But obv I was not stupid enough to just give her money and give the benefit of the doubt that she might be the telling the truth at the start, so was thinking to give it some time to know her to see what she said was real or she is just bullshiting me but after 1 month I realized she is just using me in order to get money from me.

When we agreed to eat for supper, she would suddenly forget about me even though we agreed 1 hour before because her sister suddenly came to the shop and she ate with the sister instead which she took a photo. I felt so disrespected as I waited for her and she only “remembered” me when she look at her phone again and told me she eat supper with the sister. This happens the second time again when she initiated to eat breakfast, and I wake up early and she did not even wake up and said her alarm clock did not ring even though she set the alarm.
2nd time it happens and its consecutively and of course I felt she just disrespecting my time at this point and all she said I was too harsh? Surely I will be quite annoyed if we agreed and I waited for u and u don’t turn up and don’t even update right? For example for the first incident, how can u suddenly forget when we just agreed 1 hour before just because your sister suddenly appear, and I am annoyed not because she is not eating with me but rather I am annoyed she don’t even care to update me because she “forgets” which I start to know I was actually nothing but a cash cow for her, nothing else

So to backtrack abit, I used to be the one trying to initiate in the rs so we can get to know each other better but she always come up with diff excuses and said she don’t want me to initiate because she is tired. So of course I told her ok then, she can initiate then to fit her timing instead. And she agreed and said she initiate too.

When she return back to Singapore after cny, she became so pissed off because I never initiate to meet her. But the first thing she told me was its Chinese new year and u have not given me angbao. And I also became annoyed because I respected her decision that she did not want me to initiate and make her tired but somehow when I followed what she wants she also angry that I did not initiate. So what on earth she wants? Initiate or not initiate? Always having double standards

And the first thing she ask was money again instead of meeting up. Knew this was a no no and ended things quickly but good learning experience.

Never ever go near a Vn lady that’s all I can say
Your story just shows u r the fool being played around by her
Learn not to be too hard up
Ask her to go fuck herself
And you should learn how to treat urself better than to be so easily fooled by someone who obviously dun give a shit about u
A they want is money - u should just give them shit

[pikachu007]

Got VN ML heard that you are not married or attached become very friendly?

Keep saying miss you, use love you emoji etc.

[Fishcer]

Everyone wants to be the special one of the ML, but how many really are? 99% just want make as much money as possible, that's why they are in this line. Some enter thinking just make enough then get out, but you see soo many MILFs still in this line, shows you that the money is too good for them to leave. True, there are some instances whereby the MLs manage to find one to get married and settle down with, but it's like one is a few thousand. Some will totally stop doing ML, but I've seen some who go back into the line after some time, probably cos again the money is too good. I've ever known one who didn't do special then got married. After almost 1 yr, wechat me ask me go support. I joking say very far, and u don't do special. She say just come down, she has learnt new stuff. Imagine if u marry the ML, she after married then start do special, if u find out u can take it bor.

[similang]

as long as u go, she treats u nice then that's it.

dont think too much about when u dont go how she treats the rest.

else if u dont go, how she gonna survive.

they will not be in this trade forever, don't put too much feelings into it.

[Unseenuser]

Are all ML actually poor in real life that is why they work in this job? or is that just the same story they all use but they are actually not poor?

I know they already earn a 3k in basic, and imagine with the extras, they probably can earn 5-6k or even more.. it’s crazy this is probably more than average Singaporean who graduates a diploma or even a uni

And I am actually so curious, across all the massage shops in Singapore, when they are hired by the bosses, are the ML all taught to say the same story and to behave in a particular way? Because I see all ML behave the same , say the same sad story

[wongqy1359]

Originally Posted by Unseenuser

Are all ML actually poor in real life that is why they work in this job? or is that just the same story they all use but they are actually not poor?

I know they already earn a 3k in basic, and imagine with the extras, they probably can earn 5-6k or even more.. it’s crazy this is probably more than average Singaporean who graduates a diploma or even a uni

And I am actually so curious, across all the massage shops in Singapore, when they are hired by the bosses, are the ML all taught to say the same story and to behave in a particular way? Because I see all ML behave the same , say the sad story the same.

They work in this line of work mainly due to money. It usually the same few reasons that they come to SG to work. Need money to support family or kids, in debt, gambling, studying siblings or need money for their business.

And overtime their attitude changed once they earned a certain amount of money. They became more materialistic since they now are able to buy things they couldn’t have before. So a lot of them will end up splurging on fine dining, branded clothes and bag.

I also visited a few ML that says work is hard because they can’t find customers. But I stopped visiting them when I saw their TT or wechat post where they wear branded from head to toe and out partying almost everyday.

[Unseenuser]

Originally Posted by wongqy1359

They work in this line of work mainly due to money. It usually the same few reasons that they come to SG to work. Need money to support family or kids, in debt, gambling, studying siblings or need money for their business.

And overtime their attitude changed once they earned a certain amount of money. They became more materialistic since they now are able to buy things they couldn’t have before. So a lot of them will end up splurging on fine dining, branded clothes and bag.

I also visited a few ML that says work is hard because they can’t find customers. But I stopped visiting them when I saw their TT or wechat post where they wear branded from head to toe and out partying almost everyday.

But the mindset of these ML is very questionable. Because the way they tell their story is as if they are so poor to the extend where they have to do this job and there is no other job that they could do. And initially I believe it because I was thinking who on earth would want to do such a job..so it could only be true that they could be poor and I wanted to help. But when you see their lavish lifestyle as what you mentioned it just make me question is it even true they are poor? Because let’s be real if we are seriously very poor, the first thing in our head is to provide the family to make the family financial security stable first. But to these people the mindset is just questionable and if they are really poor, then it’s so obvious why they are poor since they are always earning and spending everything away lolol. And I tried telling the ML this before but I get criticize lmao.. I guess some ppl are just meant to be poor then and cannot be helped

And because I know she is going to spend on lavish lifestyle rather than help the family I did not even help her in the end, and Vietnamese ml is the best at faking it for some reason , Chinese ml still quite real and honest with u

Anyways quite good I found this place LOL can have so many ppl’s opinions and those more experience to share their story here

[Oldbox]

Bro Unseenuser, actually it’s like that with women in general not just ml, with regards to the initiate or don’t. Women, I think don’t always know what they really want, and if you just follow what they tell you, it will still be wrong half the time. One has to learn through observation about that particular person and lots of trial and error, to improve your percentage of doing the “right” thing.

[PotatoHead123]

Need advice from the experts here. Only started visiting MLs recently and met one which I like and visited her 4 times so far.

Today, on the 4th visit, she told me she needed 70k sgd, and if I can give her 10k sgd. She is not comfortable to let me know why she needed the money. Give, not loan. Alternatively is if i can give her a few k sgd a month....and she can spend more time with me while she is here. She asked me to think about it and let her know. We have a 19 yrs age gap, i am a divorcee.

Is this normal?

I should not under any circumstances say yes I guess. Should I reject and see how she react, or just run far far away...

[Oldbox]

Most ml, I think are like what was mentioned, they got into this line to solve money issues, like debt from failed businesses, from gambling, single mom, divorce, family members sick and need help with medical, etc. Of course, some just want to get rich the easier way.

There is one ml I know with a plan of what to do with the money she is earning now. She has plans to go back China and pivot to a new career, with the money invested for her to attend the necessary courses to get the qualifications required for it. I’m impressed and I hope she is able to succeed but I think she is rare among ml.

[coolmanspooky]

Originally Posted by Unseenuser

Are all ML actually poor in real life that is why they work in this job? or is that just the same story they all use but they are actually not poor?

I know they already earn a 3k in basic, and imagine with the extras, they probably can earn 5-6k or even more.. it’s crazy this is probably more than average Singaporean who graduates a diploma or even a uni

And I am actually so curious, across all the massage shops in Singapore, when they are hired by the bosses, are the ML all taught to say the same story and to behave in a particular way? Because I see all ML behave the same , say the same sad story

I beg to differ...don't think they are earning 3k basic...but even with comms, they will earn more than 10k...for CAT 1 spa, assuming comm is split 50/50 but we know most doesnt split 50/50...assuming 88 for one hour, 5 customers a day...you have (44×5)+(50x5)=470. 2 days off in a month. 470×28=13k+ and I am assuming 5 customers per day and each paying 50 for hj...we know it doesnt work this way now...some joints, they eat, shit and live in spa...so that saves on accomodation

[Unseenuser]

Originally Posted by coolmanspooky

I beg to differ...don't think they are earning 3k basic...but even with comms, they will earn more than 10k...for CAT 1 spa, assuming comm is split 50/50 but we know most doesnt split 50/50...assuming 88 for one hour, 5 customers a day...you have (44×5)+(50x5)=470. 2 days off in a month. 470×28=13k+ and I am assuming 5 customers per day and each paying 50 for hj...we know it doesnt work this way now...some joints, they eat, shit and live in spa...so that saves on accomodation

How about the normal massage parlour shops around the neighbourhood? They also can earn more than 10k a month? That’s insane..

[Tryout888]

Saw an shop ads recruitment before. They demand quota and charge fees etc. Its the boss that earn the most and not the ladies actually, well it may varies from shop to shop.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by coolmanspooky

I beg to differ...don't think they are earning 3k basic...but even with comms, they will earn more than 10k...for CAT 1 spa, assuming comm is split 50/50 but we know most doesnt split 50/50...assuming 88 for one hour, 5 customers a day...you have (44×5)+(50x5)=470. 2 days off in a month. 470×28=13k+ and I am assuming 5 customers per day and each paying 50 for hj...we know it doesnt work this way now...some joints, they eat, shit and live in spa...so that saves on accomodation

concept is about there.
Cat 1 is 20/80, 25/75, 30/70 sharing depending on the sales target. more sales more % upto 30. that is why some ML push 88 to hit 30% target.
some shop set 8k to get 20%, above 10k 30%. some shop set higher.
incentive for hitting target is shop pay levy.

5 customer per can be median figure. some day more, some day less.


yah 3k is minimum spass salary set by govt. its a loop hole explored by all MP. declare 3k as basic. more is allowance.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Tryout888

Saw an shop ads recruitment before. They demand quota and charge fees etc. Its the boss that earn the most and not the ladies actually, well it may varies from shop to shop.

good boss vs bad boss.
spa owner need cover many overhead as well.
lady earn more means boss earn more