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Old 11-11-2012, 07:26 PM
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And we are group in the same catergory as japanese and koreans.
Not only us..... even the PRCs and Taiwanese are in the same group.
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Regardless or GoGo, Beer bar or Discos. When you go hunting, always be prepare to walk away. For me, THB 3000 can get TG anytime, THB2000-THB2500 not too difficult, THB1500 need some effort and finally THB 1000 need some luck. This is all for LT pricing.

I always look at THB 1000 for LT as I strike lottery. This is because most girls ask high for asians. And we are group in the same category as japanese and koreans.
Hi, I'm not Asian, and it may well be that the girls try to get higher prices from Asian people.
Of course, it depends of the season (lower prices in low season), and of the type of place. From my experience (+BF to be added), my estimates are:
- in Beer bars and discos, I would say 80% of the girls accept 1000 LT, and 95% to 99% 1500 LT
- in Gogos, 25% 1500 LT, 50% 2000 LT, 80% 2500 LT, 95% to 99% 3000 LT

Of course, it also depends of the girl. An exceptional girl who is barfined every night by Japanese ATMs at 4000 will not go down to 2000. It also depends on specific locations: you can get 1500 LT in Gogos in Soi Bukhao/Diana area, it is nearly impossible in WS Gogos.

As I wrote before, if a girl only wants to go with you for more than the usual price (after negotiation, of course), it usually means she doesn't really want to go with you. Maybe she doesn't like you, maybe she's in disco to have fun with her friends and is not really interested in having another customer, maybe she expects a favourite customer later....
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Hi, I'm not Asian, and it may well be that the girls try to get higher prices from Asian people.
Of course, it depends of the season (lower prices in low season), and of the type of place. From my experience (+BF to be added), my estimates are:
- in Beer bars and discos, I would say 80% of the girls accept 1000 LT, and 95% to 99% 1500 LT
- in Gogos, 25% 1500 LT, 50% 2000 LT, 80% 2500 LT, 95% to 99% 3000 LT

Of course, it also depends of the girl. An exceptional girl who is barfined every night by Japanese ATMs at 4000 will not go down to 2000. It also depends on specific locations: you can get 1500 LT in Gogos in Soi Bukhao/Diana area, it is nearly impossible in WS Gogos.

As I wrote before, if a girl only wants to go with you for more than the usual price (after negotiation, of course), it usually means she doesn't really want to go with you. Maybe she doesn't like you, maybe she's in disco to have fun with her friends and is not really interested in having another customer, maybe she expects a favourite customer later....

Prices are subjective..... if you are comfortable with the quoted price, just go for it.
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Hi, I'm not Asian, and it may well be that the girls try to get higher prices from Asian people.
Of course, it depends of the season (lower prices in low season), and of the type of place. From my experience (+BF to be added), my estimates are:
- in Beer bars and discos, I would say 80% of the girls accept 1000 LT, and 95% to 99% 1500 LT
- in Gogos, 25% 1500 LT, 50% 2000 LT, 80% 2500 LT, 95% to 99% 3000 LT

Of course, it also depends of the girl. An exceptional girl who is barfined every night by Japanese ATMs at 4000 will not go down to 2000. It also depends on specific locations: you can get 1500 LT in Gogos in Soi Bukhao/Diana area, it is nearly impossible in WS Gogos.

As I wrote before, if a girl only wants to go with you for more than the usual price (after negotiation, of course), it usually means she doesn't really want to go with you. Maybe she doesn't like you, maybe she's in disco to have fun with her friends and is not really interested in having another customer, maybe she expects a favourite customer later....

Well said bro...sums it up way better than me

Price n girl's attitude also subjective to your timing of price negotiation...popping the price question at first chat and after chilling & several drinks/games would varies the price and attitude too...
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Well said bro...sums it up way better than me

Price n girl's attitude also subjective to your timing of price negotiation...popping the price question at first chat and after chilling & several drinks/games would varies the price and attitude too...
I believe so, even if your small bro is calling out to ur big brother to start the bonking action, you cant show ur desperation in front of the puying. Sometimes being nice and taking it slow with a couple of drinks, makan and outing does make a difference in the price..... However, being able to puut(speak) thai is also crucial(damn its so hard to learn, i am freaking watching youtube vids and speaking it daily!!!!)....
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I believe so, even if your small bro is calling out to ur big brother to start the bonking action, you cant show ur desperation in front of the puying. Sometimes being nice and taking it slow with a couple of drinks, makan and outing does make a difference in the price..... However, being able to puut(speak) thai is also crucial(damn its so hard to learn, i am freaking watching youtube vids and speaking it daily!!!!)....
dun really need to try that hard to learn their lang. as you can use gesture and body signs to comunicate, besides they have many "sisters" that are fluent with english anyway..if that fails, theres always their drinking games, live thai bands & disco dancing to break the ice...but the best universal lang. is stil $$$$$
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Prices are subjective..... if you are comfortable with the quoted price, just go for it.
OK, I'll try again. Unlike other countries, in Thailand a girl will not (in most cases) tell you "her" price if you ask how much she wants. The mere fact that you ask "how much" may be interpreted as "this guy doesn"t know the current price, I can charge him more than I usually get.
Example: a girl who usually gets 1000 LT in a disco, is approached by a guy
Case 1: She's never seen the guy around before, he looks like he doesn't know the place, is Asian and seems to have money. He asks "how much?" she will try 2500
Case 2: The guy seems to be familiar with Thailand, is maybe farang, doesn't seem to have much money He asks "How much?", she will try 1500, and go down to 1000 if he doesn't accept
Case 3: She's seen the guy before in the disco, a few girls he apparently knows (they all know each other more or less, so she knows they also go for 1000 LT) say hello to him. She doesn't talk money with him and take the 1000 bath bill in the morning. Eventually if the guy is happy with her he will give something like 200 tip.

It's the same in Beer bars. In gogos they sometimes show you a paper with prices written on it. You can be sure (unless it's a bar patronized by Japanese ATMs), that in 80% of the cases, customers don't pay that price.
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OK, I'll try again. Unlike other countries, in Thailand a girl will not (in most cases) tell you "her" price if you ask how much she wants. The mere fact that you ask "how much" may be interpreted as "this guy doesn"t know the current price, I can charge him more than I usually get.
Example: a girl who usually gets 1000 LT in a disco, is approached by a guy
Case 1: She's never seen the guy around before, he looks like he doesn't know the place, is Asian and seems to have money. He asks "how much?" she will try 2500
Case 2: The guy seems to be familiar with Thailand, is maybe farang, doesn't seem to have much money He asks "How much?", she will try 1500, and go down to 1000 if he doesn't accept
Case 3: She's seen the guy before in the disco, a few girls he apparently knows (they all know each other more or less, so she knows they also go for 1000 LT) say hello to him. She doesn't talk money with him and take the 1000 bath bill in the morning. Eventually if the guy is happy with her he will give something like 200 tip.

It's the same in Beer bars. In gogos they sometimes show you a paper with prices written on it. You can be sure (unless it's a bar patronized by Japanese ATMs), that in 80% of the cases, customers don't pay that price.
Very good explanation..... I learnt something about Patts today.
Thanks.
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OK, I'll try again. Unlike other countries, in Thailand a girl will not (in most cases) tell you "her" price if you ask how much she wants. The mere fact that you ask "how much" may be interpreted as "this guy doesn"t know the current price, I can charge him more than I usually get.
Example: a girl who usually gets 1000 LT in a disco, is approached by a guy
Case 1: She's never seen the guy around before, he looks like he doesn't know the place, is Asian and seems to have money. He asks "how much?" she will try 2500
Case 2: The guy seems to be familiar with Thailand, is maybe farang, doesn't seem to have much money He asks "How much?", she will try 1500, and go down to 1000 if he doesn't accept
Case 3: She's seen the guy before in the disco, a few girls he apparently knows (they all know each other more or less, so she knows they also go for 1000 LT) say hello to him. She doesn't talk money with him and take the 1000 bath bill in the morning. Eventually if the guy is happy with her he will give something like 200 tip.

It's the same in Beer bars. In gogos they sometimes show you a paper with prices written on it. You can be sure (unless it's a bar patronized by Japanese ATMs), that in 80% of the cases, customers don't pay that price.
I am getting the clearer picture now, to reduce the chances of meeting runners/ lowering ur vita M dmg / seeing ur LT converted into a ST, i guess u need to be firm and quote ur lowest price(1500-2000 i think is reasonable for asian), if she saes no, be polite to find an excuse to walk away and not to spend further on her then i guess.... I think sometimes disco hopping is also not bad when you cant find any chick up to ur price u prefer. In WS alone, there is more than 3 discos for u to source lol....
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After reading thru the last 20 pages, I'm convince that I should visit Pattaya early next year

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Just do it. Dun hesitate else u will regret for the rest of your life.
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I am getting the clearer picture now, to reduce the chances of meeting runners/ lowering ur vita M dmg / seeing ur LT converted into a ST, i guess u need to be firm and quote ur lowest price(1500-2000 i think is reasonable for asian), if she saes no, be polite to find an excuse to walk away and not to spend further on her then i guess.... I think sometimes disco hopping is also not bad when you cant find any chick up to ur price u prefer. In WS alone, there is more than 3 discos for u to source lol....
Don't think too much into the price factor. You need to know the market price so not be ripped off and show aren't a newbie. Most gals if know you not newbie won't come out with too many patterns. More important get the gals to think you are nice enough.

I'd come to learn to invest time on chemistry even if it's a few days trip. You see a bar with gals you like, go in have a drink, buy the gal you like a drink. Don't be eager to bf her, build some chemistry. You can bf later or next day or next trip. If you scare she run away exchange fb (do make a seperate fb account), email or numbers.

Disco same same, go there make friends with gals who gives you attention. You may not like her, she may have sister or friend you may like I always failed doing this as I'm "blind" whenever I go disco 555

Walking street disco, you can give it a miss. Most oldies there.
Lucifer not bad can chill, but quality gals like limited.
Marine is after 2am but loud music.
Flexx is black hip hop, unless you are comfortable being the only few non-blacks there, don't go.
Mixx after the last gun down outside, haven't been mentioned much.
Insomnia my favourite but really getting too packed.
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Don't think too much into the price factor. You need to know the market price so not be ripped off and show aren't a newbie. Most gals if know you not newbie won't come out with too many patterns. More important get the gals to think you are nice enough.

I'd come to learn to invest time on chemistry even if it's a few days trip. You see a bar with gals you like, go in have a drink, buy the gal you like a drink. Don't be eager to bf her, build some chemistry. You can bf later or next day or next trip. If you scare she run away exchange fb (do make a seperate fb account), email or numbers.

Disco same same, go there make friends with gals who gives you attention. You may not like her, she may have sister or friend you may like I always failed doing this as I'm "blind" whenever I go disco 555

Walking street disco, you can give it a miss. Most oldies there.
Lucifer not bad can chill, but quality gals like limited.
Marine is after 2am but loud music.
Flexx is black hip hop, unless you are comfortable being the only few non-blacks there, don't go.
Mixx after the last gun down outside, haven't been mentioned much.
Insomnia my favourite but really getting too packed.
Bro, based on your experienced observation in Patts,

you are spot on. Patts have more nicer milfs than syt. IMO, this is the sole reason why i will glue myself to patts than goin to bkk anytime lol( screw syts, service always fucked up in my case, guess milfs like me more as i look like young and narak boy tt can be take care of in my late 20s hahahaha).

WS disco so far is my fav. Small and cozy and loads of milfs for me to pick up, beer cheap somemore, a bottle of singha at 100-120 bht i think wheareas the other discos in WS is selling their beer bottle at minimum of 170-180 bht.

Lucifer is not bad lah likewise for milfs again , will camp there when i go back during low season next year. Mixx is too packed at times but still loved it there coz of DJ domination awesome hits! However, no one talked about Lima Lima(the one next to mixx) yet.

It seems when i go there, there is not much ppl. Insonmia IMO is too overrated and its ridiculous when i wanted to go upstairs, they ask for passport lol(only insom ask me for that wtf...) Reminds me of stupid clubs with strict regulations in sillypore. For goodness sake, i go LOS to avoid sillypore like clubs lol.....

However, i need to clear one doubt when i go down patts again, have to head down to hollywood, which is outside of WS occasionally, i still feel there got good stocks lurking out there lol....

OVerall, Milf Paradise in Patts(i biase lah hahaha) is still my beloved hunting ground and my selfish thought out here will be those who like syts dun come Patts, let me own the place again and again until i am so bored of it(i dun think i will be bored aniwae), for Eternity let mi rule there! LOL.... If you are like a sterotypical MCP like me in this modern era where pursuing chicks you feel is tiring and a waste of time, then come patts find only milfs to serve you and feed you makan when you about to bonk her in your bed in the afterhours of ur discoing time hahahahahaa.... So wad if shes older than me or less attractive at times? If she got the X factor and can make me moan like a sissy bitch in bed, its money's worth man....

Omg, as i am learning thai as a novice now, i tot watching thai lakorn(tio hooked liao, giving my korean dramas a break for this as i was watching them on TV in my hotel during my 18 days in patts previously lol) with chinese subs will help me understand the language better. No man, meng thai ppl puut thai so fast! how the hell can catch up? shite.... nvm slowly will get the hang of their pace in talking....

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Insonmia checked everyone id unless you are regulars there. I normally bring 11B with me since losing it not a big problem unlike passport and ic.

Lima Lima are mostly agency gals. I don't recall FL been mentioned hanging out there.

I guess MILF aren't the typical types most bros go patts to look for 555 But that means there's more for u.

I'm preparing for my Jan short trip. Gonna go solo again from 2 trips in group. Should be fun to see how I fair with more silly stuffs I bring 555

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Bro, based on your experienced observation in Patts,

you are spot on. Patts have more nicer milfs than syt. IMO, this is the sole reason why i will glue myself to patts than goin to bkk anytime lol( screw syts, service always fucked up in my case, guess milfs like me more as i look like young and narak boy tt can be take care of in my late 20s hahahaha).

WS disco so far is my fav. Small and cozy and loads of milfs for me to pick up, beer cheap somemore, a bottle of singha at 100-120 bht i think wheareas the other discos in WS is selling their beer bottle at minimum of 170-180 bht.

Lucifer is not bad lah likewise for milfs again , will camp there when i go back during low season next year. Mixx is too packed at times but still loved it there coz of DJ domination awesome hits! However, no one talked about Lima Lima(the one next to mixx) yet.

It seems when i go there, there is not much ppl. Insonmia IMO is too overrated and its ridiculous when i wanted to go upstairs, they ask for passport lol(only insom ask me for that wtf...) Reminds me of stupid clubs with strict regulations in sillypore. For goodness sake, i go LOS to avoid sillypore like clubs lol.....

However, i need to clear one doubt when i go down patts again, have to head down to hollywood, which is outside of WS occasionally, i still feel there got good stocks lurking out there lol....
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Insonmia checked everyone id unless you are regulars there. I normally bring 11B with me since losing it not a big problem unlike passport and ic.

Lima Lima are mostly agency gals. I don't recall FL been mentioned hanging out there.

I guess MILF aren't the typical types most bros go patts to look for 555 But that means there's more for u.

I'm preparing for my Jan short trip. Gonna go solo again from 2 trips in group. Should be fun to see how I fair with more silly stuffs I bring 555
Gd luck to u bro, goin during high season is a nono for me, gonna aim for low season and be different from stereotypical sillyporeans(no offense). Surely, i believe low season will have better stocks as less competition lol... In Asian context, once again, stereotypically(no offense once again), hardly i witness friends compete with me for milfs hahahah.... Still the hokkien saying i stand by with: Nice to see not nice to eat!...
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