Opening an MP

[afterhours99]

Originally Posted by Fayog

Know a few viet ML, every few months need to search a new place to rent as overhead is too high, can consider this factor.

Thanks bro

[afterhours99]

Originally Posted by Xinkait

I've noticed this too. Ive heard at least of one shop in far west that closed down one month after putting up an online ad, because HDB neighbours complain that the foot traffic of this quiet estate suddenly increase. Very sad.

Another ML I visited frequently once asked me for my opinion on opening a shop in a private estate shophouse. I told her too risky, rich people sometimes got nothing better to do than snoop around and lodge complaints.

My two cents bros..

Very valid points, thanks for taking the time to comment bro

[afterhours99]

Originally Posted by totoman

Operating cost is a major factor plus levy btc btc
Unless u got alot of money to burn for at least 3-6months if there is no enough customer
I also believe u be advertise in SBF right , so u need to add in all these as well

Nah I don’t SBF advertisement is the way to go. Too many weirdos/competitors that may want to do something. Idea is to have MLs bring their existing clientele, working on establishing a network now

[tangerinesex]

As long as you are renting a brick and mortar space you will be in arrears. Upfront you sign away a basic rent for a number of months. Say you get a shop space in a good location for $3k a month (which is impossible in today’s market), and there’s a minimum commitment of 12months. So without even raking in a cent your outlay just on rent alone is $36K for the whole year. Plus utilities at $200 per month conservatively (it will be higher becos it’s commercial space) you have $2.4k. Every year $40k without even factoring income for the ML. this kind of business is lucrative? Think again. How many hj, bj and probably fj must you do before you break even? To be honest, retail in SG is dead. Service sector will be dead next. The smartest ones are still the FL who operate out of their condos or bedrooms.

[Keima]

Originally Posted by afterhours99

Good point! Thanks bro. I notice our men in blue also not so free spot check one. Only if have legit complains they no choice have to investigate

Spot Checks depends on your type of massage license.

Full public view is easy to get, curtain partitions a bit harder.

Rooms come with extra, unannounced spot checks, and if the cops find a used condom wrapper, they’ll rip the place apart and interrogate all staff..

Once in a while the police divisions will do anti-vice sweeps, like they’re in a competition for best unit.

There’s a lot of pros/cons you have to balance.

[afterhours99]

Originally Posted by tangerinesex

As long as you are renting a brick and mortar space you will be in arrears. Upfront you sign away a basic rent for a number of months. Say you get a shop space in a good location for $3k a month (which is impossible in today’s market), and there’s a minimum commitment of 12months. So without even raking in a cent your outlay just on rent alone is $36K for the whole year. Plus utilities at $200 per month conservatively (it will be higher becos it’s commercial space) you have $2.4k. Every year $40k without even factoring income for the ML. this kind of business is lucrative? Think again. How many hj, bj and probably fj must you do before you break even? To be honest, retail in SG is dead. Service sector will be dead next. The smartest ones are still the FL who operate out of their condos or bedrooms.

Don’t want do FJs all that la haha. But thanks for taking the time to comment

[afterhours99]

Originally Posted by Keima

Spot Checks depends on your type of massage license.

Full public view is easy to get, curtain partitions a bit harder.

Rooms come with extra, unannounced spot checks, and if the cops find a used condom wrapper, they’ll rip the place apart and interrogate all staff..

Once in a while the police divisions will do anti-vice sweeps, like they’re in a competition for best unit.

There’s a lot of pros/cons you have to balance.

Mmmm interesting. Considering Cat1 joints instead of curtains and others. First impression looks more legit/clean. Thanks bro

[Keima]

Originally Posted by afterhours99

Mmmm interesting. Considering Cat1 joints instead of curtains and others. First impression looks more legit/clean. Thanks bro

https://www.police.gov.sg/e-Services...shment-Licence

[Peacekeeping]

Want to do dishonest business must go Malaysia do it openly. Open in sg spend so much money still need to hide here and there. Eventually also get caught.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by totoman

Operating cost is a major factor plus levy btc btc

usually levy passed to ML. Some shop will pay the levy as incentive for ML when the ML hit a certain target

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by afterhours99

Mmmm interesting. Considering Cat1 joints instead of curtains and others. First impression looks more legit/clean. Thanks bro

Cat 1 Spa
1) One 2 level unit average 10k per month. 12mth rental minimum?
2) simple reno and setup
3) licensing with several agency
4) Case trust
5) advertisement for employment of local ML
6) time and effort dealing with MOM (employment of Spass)
7) marketing
8) getting a TPK
9) utilities
10) foreign employment levy (if ML hit taget)

many 2 unit Cat1 shops employ upto 12 ML. Maybe a 1 unit Cat1 shop need half the strength and setting a 15k target mthly for ML so a to be at least profitable.
so if all ML hit target, revenue is 90k per month. minus all expense, left how much?

one cat1 shop in the west last time 24hour, now no more 24hour is struggling.
many shop take the risk to operate beyond 1030pm

some established shop stabilised their operation and open 1 or 2 more in order to multiply

[Littlebigbone]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Cat 1 Spa
1) One 2 level unit average 10k per month. 12mth rental minimum?
2) simple reno and setup
3) licensing with several agency
4) Case trust
5) advertisement for employment of local ML
6) time and effort dealing with MOM (employment of Spass)
7) marketing
8) getting a TPK
9) utilities
10) foreign employment levy (if ML hit taget)

many 2 unit Cat1 shops employ upto 12 ML. Maybe a 1 unit Cat1 shop need half the strength and setting a 15k target mthly for ML so a to be at least profitable.
so if all ML hit target, revenue is 90k per month. minus all expense, left how much?

one cat1 shop in the west last time 24hour, now no more 24hour is struggling.
many shop take the risk to operate beyond 1030pm

some established shop stabilised their operation and open 1 or 2 more in order to multiply

Most expensive unseen costs is the foreign talent quota and associated costs. If u hire tiongbu u may need up to 8 to 1. Lesser for vietbu.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Littlebigbone

Most expensive unseen costs is the foreign talent quota and associated costs. If u hire tiongbu u may need up to 8 to 1. Lesser for vietbu.

i thought quota is
3v1 for boleh land
5v1 for PRC
7v1 for others include viet

can't imaging how many local to 'employ' or 'buy 人头' and make minimum cpf contribution for these 'employment' in order to employ the FT.

then there is whole lot of shit regulation to adhere with MOM

[Littlebigbone]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

i thought quota is
3v1 for boleh land
5v1 for PRC
7v1 for others include viet

can't imaging how many local to 'employ' or 'buy 人头' and make minimum cpf contribution for these 'employment' in order to employ the FT.

then there is whole lot of shit regulation to adhere with MOM

This is main reason why entrance r going to $88, and mp has to gimmick it. Pappy policies driving up the entrance for us samters.

[Littlebigbone]

Originally Posted by Littlebigbone

This is main reason why entrance r going to $88, and mp has to gimmick it. Pappy policies driving up the entrance for us samters.

And the tuapekong will transfer the costs to the ml. As soon as ml not meet the monthly quota out they go. Some bosses pay as low as $5-8 to the ml for one hour of massage. Mosts are 20%. In the good old days, before all the pappy quotas, the ml can get 40/60 share.