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Old 09-06-2016, 04:46 AM
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It is true that most of this raid in the past has been PR exercise at best but looking at the pattern of enforcement in recent years under the military govt, it may not be entirely for show. One major point that stick up like a sore thumb is that NATAREE is probably the only outlet in the whole Ratchada stretch that employ many Myammar nationals and this is the reason where the place has over hundreds of very young girls while the other outlets have like a few dozens at any one time and mostly Thais. this fact is also cited in the report "....around 90 per cent of the 121 women found working in the brothel at the time of the raid were Myanmar nationals, primarily ethnic minority women from the two country's border regions....''

this is also the reason the place attracted many Asian foreigners. and it certainly won't escape the attention of the competing arb nam next door that the outlet is the only one ''able or allowed?'' to serve up so many foreigners.

this could be a crackdown more on illegal human trafficking to please the foreign NGOs, which is obsessed with human trafficking, consensual or otherwise, and compounded by extra pressure on the right place at the right time from competing arb nam taking advantage of the situation. We are well aware that the Thai authority will never embark on a full-blown crackdown on prostitution, regardless of what the official position is, unless they want to risk social and economic breakdown.

However, in recent years, the military authority has proven to be more serious in enforcing the closing hours of nightspots, although, it is sporadic and seem to ebb and flow. In recent memory, I don't recall any other similar raid where the outlet location and names are so clearly and sensationally shown in Thai media. In many other past reports involving crime, suicide, accidents etc, individuals and location are reported with no such specifics. this time, they even showed the book listing how much bribes have been paid and to whom, which is too overt not to suggest that this is meant to bring down some people somewhere. correct me if I am wrong...

My take is Nataree could be back in business but with different name and significantly less foreign workers...

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Old 09-06-2016, 04:50 AM
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Re: Bangkok Chiong Scene / Massage / AGoGo / Clubs / Disco

Just nice when i reach Nataree. Saw 1 x 40 seater bus n many soldiers and reporters standing outside nataree. Well i didnt get caught in the fiasco. I end up going to Poseidon with 2 x Ah tiongs who also visited nataree. Paid 3200 for their university student. Afterall Poseidon room n bathtub is still the best. Think can say goodbye to nataree already.
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Old 09-06-2016, 05:11 AM
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"All involved were charged with various offenses related to prostitution and human-trafficking and the massage parlour permanently shutdown."

wow wow, there goes my favourite parlour with the best service around.

but take these news and their statistics with a pinch of salt, God knows where they get their figures and information.

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Old 09-06-2016, 06:18 AM
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Re: Bangkok Chiong Scene / Massage / AGoGo / Clubs / Disco

I think 90% of the girls are foreigners are abit exaggerated. They are just a scapegoat. See mostly Thai girls even during crowded times. The foreigners are obvious, sitting by themselves, but you will hear the Thai girls chit chatting amongst themselves. Hope they are opened by the time I am there at the end of June...if not, any other intro for such MP? Ever since I started chionging BKK, I only go Nataree and a couple of times, Poisedon which I did not really like....haiz.... maybe anyone tried that Mitu since in Suk easy for me to try...
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:18 AM
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I think 90% of the girls are foreigners are abit exaggerated. They are just a scapegoat. See mostly Thai girls even during crowded times. The foreigners are obvious, sitting by themselves, but you will hear the Thai girls chit chatting amongst themselves. Hope they are opened by the time I am there at the end of June...if not, any other intro for such MP? Ever since I started chionging BKK, I only go Nataree and a couple of times, Poisedon which I did not really like....haiz.... maybe anyone tried that Mitu since in Suk easy for me to try...
FYI, if you are judging from the ability to speak Thai, the Myammars can speak Thai, same as the Myammars in Danok.. many of them really are from the tribes staying at the Thai - Myammar border

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shan_people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_people

there is an essential difference in their features from those in the Central and Southern Thailand. some Northern Thais have similar features due to the centuries of inter-racial, tribal marriages.

beside them, there are also the hill tribes, whose citizen status in Thailand are uncertain and they couldn't legally work in any part of Thailand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_tribe_%28Thailand%29

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A 2013 article in Bangkok Post said that "Nearly a million hill peoples and forest dwellers are still treated as outsiders—criminals even, since most live in protected forests. Viewed as national security threats, hundreds of thousands of them are refused citizenship although many are natives to the land"
I thought this is a known fact among seniors here, given how obvious the pool of workers in NATAREE are different in quantity and features compared to the other outlets along the stretch. although, it remain to be seen, whether thats the genuine reason behind the raid.

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Old 09-06-2016, 07:58 PM
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I think 90% of the girls are foreigners are abit exaggerated. They are just a scapegoat. See mostly Thai girls even during crowded times. The foreigners are obvious, sitting by themselves, but you will hear the Thai girls chit chatting amongst themselves. Hope they are opened by the time I am there at the end of June...if not, any other intro for such MP? Ever since I started chionging BKK, I only go Nataree and a couple of times, Poisedon which I did not really like....haiz.... maybe anyone tried that Mitu since in Suk easy for me to try...
Not exaggerated..... possibly true because most Myanmar girls will not tell you they are from Myanmar but will instead say they come from Chiangrai / Maesai / Phayao regions. Also many Myanmese children living near the Thai/Myanmar border actually go to schools in Thailand..... similar to JB children and Singapore schools situation.
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Old 09-06-2016, 08:13 PM
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Re: Bangkok Chiong Scene / Massage / AGoGo / Clubs / Disco

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So ironic because probably half of the officers involved in the raid/arrest are also regulars at Nataree.
That is probably why many gers DID NOT turn up for work when the raid happened. Normally full strength staff turnout is about 300 girls but they only nabbed 121 because many were tipped off about the raid.

My regular Chiangmai gal told me she & her flatmates were told not to go to work that day by her landlord..... who coincidentally oso happen to be a policeman.

Another rumour I heard about this raid is that Nataree management is close to Taksin & his family and a strong supporter of the "Reds".... and many of those names on the books alleged to have received payments are staunch red supporters as well.....

So this raid could be politically motivated as well.
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Old 09-06-2016, 10:06 PM
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Re: Bangkok Chiong Scene / Massage / AGoGo / Clubs / Disco

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I think 90% of the girls are foreigners are abit exaggerated. They are just a scapegoat. See mostly Thai girls even during crowded times. The foreigners are obvious, sitting by themselves, but you will hear the Thai girls chit chatting amongst themselves. Hope they are opened by the time I am there at the end of June...if not, any other intro for such MP? Ever since I started chionging BKK, I only go Nataree and a couple of times, Poisedon which I did not really like....haiz.... maybe anyone tried that Mitu since in Suk easy for me to try...
I'm also surprised the percentage is so high. I always thought majority is thai girls.i did bonk a girl from Myanmar there couple years ago. She showed me pics of her family back home. quite sweet.

Try la Belle. Good facilities. my fave place in terms of comfort. Selection of SYTs not as good as Nataree. But no where else is as good anyway.

Poseidon sucks I agree lol
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Old 09-06-2016, 11:57 PM
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Haiz...

so I am planning to visit Copa Cabana for the first time...its just behind Poseidon right... any recent FRs from there? Been only visiting Nataree until never felt the need to visit elsewhere....
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Old 10-06-2016, 08:53 AM
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Well brothers, Nataree got raided and they found underaged girls!

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...d/2854990.html
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:34 AM
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Well brothers, Nataree got raided and they found underaged girls!

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...d/2854990.html
bro where have u been?
ppl been talking about this since days ago lol
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I mBro, maybe he busy no time to do reading everyday so it ok, I just walk pass Nataree before I went to Emanuelle, well sad to see the place Tio raid, so just less one place to go only, but there have many places to go

Dropby Themae Cafe at 1am... OMG... It so full house than Nataree... I was almost can say side by side from the moment u enter ... Sao mak mak, hunter also many but buyer not many

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bro where have u been?
ppl been talking about this since days ago lol
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Old 10-06-2016, 12:37 PM
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Haiz...

so I am planning to visit Copa Cabana for the first time...its just behind Poseidon right... any recent FRs from there? Been only visiting Nataree until never felt the need to visit elsewhere....
Gals are limited and quality wise better than Poseidon.
There are 3 type of class on the 1stt floor and model class at 2nd floor.
Ask for Heng who speak teochew and english.
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Dropby Themae Cafe at 1am... OMG... It so full house than Nataree... I was almost can say side by side from the moment u enter ... Sao mak mak, hunter also many but buyer not many
Pretty ones already taken, only left the average looking.

Hope you have a nice trip in Bkk and CM.
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Ok, thanks Bro... Just a short trip, as I just go Themae see see look look as there change afew things, as now the light is on can see better even with beer google n they play pretty nice music not from the Jukebox, Bro YY ur jukebox over is finally over no more old school, now at Wetnam...

555

Just read this...

http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/06/0...old-developers

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Pretty ones already taken, only left the average looking.

Hope you have a nice trip in Bkk and CM.
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