My life experience in Changi Prison (Cluster B)

[MU fans]

Bro i going in on 04.10 my lawyer told me is abt 1yrs any advice

[SgHornyDevil]

Originally Posted by MU fans

Bro i going in on 04.10 my lawyer told me is abt 1yrs any advice

what was your crime ?

[Gara]

Originally Posted by joew2005

hi Gara,pls continue.

Sori, these few daes bz working.. Will upload the rotan chapter on this coming wednesday (My off day)..

[Gara]

Originally Posted by MU fans

Bro i going in on 04.10 my lawyer told me is abt 1yrs any advice

Bro, whats ya case? Sometimes lawyer's estimation may not be correct

[MU fans]

I have 2 charges for illegal workers & 48 for os salary my lawyer told me they going to charge me1 for illegal workers & 30 for the salary. Tomorrow going to see another old lawyer see can pp aft cny

[alan0338]

Originally Posted by CPVictim

Dear Bro Gara and rest,

I read your posting and wanted to write to you for some issue to discuss.

I want to know how stiff a sentence I'll get and how can I reduce it?

I picked up a vietnamese girl from a pub in Joo Chiat and proceed to have sex with her. Once inside the room in Geylang, she asked me for money first to which I did not agree. Our deal was cancelled and we went downstairs. A while later she was nabbed by police. I had no information about the girl and I thought she has probably been sent back to Vietnam.

A few days back I got a call from an officer in Cantonment and was asked to give a statement. I told him all the info and did not lie at all.

Need your guidance if you can help.

if she is underaged, then standby for rotan hor

[Gara]

Originally Posted by MU fans

I have 2 charges for illegal workers & 48 for os salary my lawyer told me they going to charge me1 for illegal workers & 30 for the salary. Tomorrow going to see another old lawyer see can pp aft cny

MOM case... Good luck to you!

[Schenker]

Originally Posted by MU fans

I have 2 charges for illegal workers & 48 for os salary my lawyer told me they going to charge me1 for illegal workers & 30 for the salary. Tomorrow going to see another old lawyer see can pp aft cny

Do you have any antecedents?

You have 1 charge for employing illegal worker + 1 TIC & 30 charges + 18 TIC.

For employing of illegal worker, maximum 10k and/or imprisonment for up to one year.

Not sure abt the punishment for O/s salary.

Hope you have a valid migitating factor that can be admitted by the judge. For example, pleaded guilty to the charge against at the first opportunity available. By pleading guilty, you save the Court’s time and public expense, a mitigating factor when determining the nature of the sentence to be imposed.

But be prepared for a hefty fine if the judge set aside the fine in default of imprisonment.

[JChoo]

Looking forward to learn more from bro Gara.

[Gara]

Originally Posted by JChoo

Looking forward to learn more from bro Gara.

Bro, there are many others who know more things than me.. I am only using my free time to writeout what i experienced and learn from prison....Just hope my story can help some other people in different ways as well...

[Gara]

Chapter 5.5: Rotan

Dear Readers, I have not gone through ‘rotan’ stage so whatever I write here is based on hearsay!

In the prison’s world, the most fearful moment for the inmates beside hanging, is ‘Rotan’ (In malay language) which means caning. I was being told that ‘rotan’ session is normally done on every Tuesday and Friday of the week.
A convicted male criminal who is between the ages of 18 and 50 and has been certified medically fit by a medical officer may be subjected to judicial caning, receiving a maximum of 24 strokes of the cane on any one occasion, irrespective of the total number of offences committed. If the offender is under 18 he may receive up to 10 strokes of the cane, but a lighter rattan cane will be used in this case.

The convict will not be caned if he has been sentence to death.

Singaporean law allows caning to be ordered for over 30 offences, including hostage-taking, robbery, gang robbery with murder drug use, vandalism, and rioting. Caning is also a mandatory punishment for certain offences such as rape, drug trafficking, illegal, loansharking activities and for visiting foreigners who overstay their visa by more than 90 days, a measure designed to deter illegal immigrant workers.

A rattan cane four feet (1.2 metres) long and half an inch (1.27 cm) thick is used for prison and judicial canings. The cane is soaked in water beforehand to make it heavier and more flexible.

Caning is in practice always ordered in addition to a jail sentence and never as a punishment by itself. It is administered in an enclosed area in the prison, out of view of the public and other inmates. Those present are limited to the inmate, prison wardens, medical officers, the caning officer and sometimes high-ranking prison officials to witness the punishment.

An inmate sentenced to caning receives no advance warning as to when he will be caned, and is notified only on the day his sentence is to be carried out. In the caning room, the inmate is ordered to strip naked and receives a medical examination by the prison doctor to check whether he is medically fit for caning, by measuring his blood pressure and other physical conditions. If the doctor gives the green light, the inmate then receives his caning, but if he is certified unfit for punishment, he is sent back to the court for his prison term to be increased instead. A prison official confirms with him the number of strokes he is to receive.

The inmate is then led to the A-shaped frame (called a "caning trestle") and his wrists and ankles secured tightly to the frame by strong leather straps in such a way that he assumes a bent-over position on the frame at an angle of close to 90° at the hip, with his posterior protruding. Protective padding is placed on his lower back to protect the vulnerable kidney and lower spine area from any mis-strokes so that only his buttocks are exposed to the cane. The officer administering the caning takes up position beside the frame and delivers the number of strokes specified in the sentence, at intervals of 10 to 15 seconds. He is required to put his full force into each stroke. The strokes are administered all in one caning session, unless the medical officer certifies that the inmate cannot receive any more strokes because of his condition, in which case the rest of the strokes are converted to additional prison time.

After the caning, the inmate is released from the frame and receives medical treatment. Antiseptic lotion is applied and the wounds left to heal. Where a large number of strokes is given, there is long-term scarring of the buttocks.

I was also being told by some of the inmates that the screams of the victims after each stroke of the whip makes one lose all appetite for food. The cane breaks skin and draws blood. Doctors are on hand to administer treatment and to assess if the individual can take more punishment...



Next Chapter: Home Detention First Interview
To Be Continued

[Schenker]

Originally Posted by MU fans

I have 2 charges for illegal workers & 48 for os salary my lawyer told me they going to charge me1 for illegal workers & 30 for the salary. Tomorrow going to see another old lawyer see can pp aft cny

Bro, since you have a impending charge, I will like to share with you something. Please do note the following before you decide to admit your charges, dispute your charges (claim trial), or your Counsel to tender in the mitigation during claim trial.

"The High/Subordinate Courts have constantly held that financial hardship, personal and family circumstances carried no or negligible mitigating value (see Lai Oei Mui Jenny v PP [1993] 3 SLR 305, Abu Syeed Chowdhury v PP [2002] 1 SLR 301). Hardship to the wife and family is the normal and inevitable consequence when the offender is imprisoned. This cannot be one of the factors which can affect what would otherwise be the right sentence."

Citing from Justice Steven Chong:

“TIC (taken into consideration for purposes of sentencing) charges would generally result in an enhanced sentence particularly where the TIC offences and the offences proceeded with are similar in nature as they would show that the offender was recalcitrant.”

Please discuss with your Counsel carefully what are the best route for you, PG at PTC stage or claim trial at a scheduled hearing. Use your cards well.

For more information, read this subcourt link:
http://app.subcourts.gov.sg/criminal...d=64541#faq8-2

[Hundred Plus]

Originally Posted by MU fans

I have 2 charges for illegal workers & 48 for os salary my lawyer told me they going to charge me1 for illegal workers & 30 for the salary. Tomorrow going to see another old lawyer see can pp aft cny

I have seen similar cases inside. I think the max you get is 1 year. After potong left with 8 mths. 1st timer, if never owe income tax or bank money you will be put on tagging after serving half of your sentence. I 3rd timer, last release on Oct 09. First 2 time short sentence and 1 time long sentence. Lucky both before 1995 so the long sentence I entitle to tagging. Sentence 23 mths, sit 9 months in QRP (work as laundry staff) a fucked up place and transfer to selarang for a few weeks and went out on tagging for 6 mths.

[ChinKooi]

Originally Posted by Gara

Chapter 5.5: Rotan

In the prison’s world, the most fearful moment for the inmates beside hanging, is ‘Rotan’ (In malay language) which means caning.

Have you meet inmates who are supposed to be hang soon ? Are they really fierce since there is nothing for them to lose to attempt escape, hold other inmate hostage ... etc

A convicted male criminal who .... receiving a maximum of 24 strokes of the cane on any one occasion, irrespective of the total number of offences committed.

If sentence to 24 strokes, can the officer chose to cane the inmates on two occasion of 12 strokes each ?

Singaporean law allows caning to be ordered for over 30 offences, including hostage-taking, robbery, gang robbery with murder drug use, vandalism, and rioting. Caning is also a mandatory punishment for certain offences such as rape, drug trafficking, illegal, loansharking activities and

Sorry to clariy, Canning for illegal what ? U miss some words or the coma not supposed to be there ?

Protective padding is placed on his lower back to protect the vulnerable kidney and lower spine area from any mis-strokes so that only his buttocks are exposed to the cane.

Any padding to cover the balls and cock in case of mishit ? Cannot imagine if the balls kena rotan ...

The strokes are administered all in one caning session, unless the medical officer certifies that the inmate cannot receive any more strokes because of his condition, in which case the rest of the strokes are converted to additional prison time.

What are the conversion rate ? 1 stroke = 1 year ?

So, cannot be caned in 2 sessions ? What if inmates pretend to be fainted after the 1st stroke so that no more canning can be administered to him ?

On the other hand, can an inmate who is sentence to say 24 years opt to be canned so that his years spent in jail can be reduced.

Thanks

[HokkienPeng]

Bro chin. You asked questions that will never happen.

Let me explain briefly. If sentence is with rottan, die did will kena rottan unless over the age limit and/or health condition does not allows when verify by doctor.

If sentenced to 24 years, one cannot ask to convert to rottan. This is because the charges are designed to have rottan for more severe offense like fighting, vandalism, rape etc.

Ad for caning, the max is 24 and usually have to take it at one go. Padding is from the lower spine to upper thigh and the buttocks are exposed for rottan. Usually no stoping of rottan unless the inmate faints or vomit blood but that is rare.

As for conversion of caning, the courts decide, no one else have that authority.

Hope it answers everything.