Tieng Viet lovers club

[casannova03]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Can let me know the title of those songs that u sing very well in the pub when u goin with me? I wan to listen to them at home

No la where got very well.....haha ok only la...

anyway i dunno which ones you talking about. but i'll just list those i remembered i sung that day...

1.) Ngo Nhu Giac Mo

2.) Em Se La Nguoi Ra di

3.) Boi Vi Anh Yeu Em (Phan Dinh Tung)

...this one by technofreak that i remembered...

4.) Anh Khong Muon Lam Nguoi Thu Ba

...can try download this song too... not bad..

5.) Anh Khong Muon Lam Kho Em (Lam Chan Khang or Kin)
(Lam Chan Khang's version more nice , my feelings..)


Enjoy!

[jackbl]

I am not properly trained on VIET, so i cant explain much to you. I used my experience to translate the sentences...

"With" can be 'voi' and 'cung'....

"nen", i also found from dictionary it is also THEREFORE

if she means cant forget, then she shd use "k the nao quen a duoc".... i dun know why she used "nua"

Sorry, not to say bad about her, I felt sometimes their sentence construction is not as good as what we think they should be.....

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Some time I got too confuse with the language...

[Honey Boon]

This song: Lưới Tình (Minh Tuyết)

nice ..... must listen before go to sleep

[rjrj]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Hi,

I need help for translation. My fren sms this to me on the New Year: "sum hop voi gia dinh tran day niem vui"... I only managed to figure out..."unite with family xxx joy". Anyone knows the meaning of "tran day"???

"tran day" = full

tran day niem vui = full of joy

[jackbl]

Thanks. Where did u find out the meaning? I look into dictionary but cant find. Can u write the words out in vietnamese for me?

Originally Posted by rjrj

"tran day" = full

tran day niem vui = full of joy

[casannova03]

Originally Posted by jackbl

I am not properly trained on VIET, so i cant explain much to you. I used my experience to translate the sentences...

"With" can be 'voi' and 'cung'....

"nen", i also found from dictionary it is also THEREFORE

if she means cant forget, then she shd use "k the nao quen a duoc".... i dun know why she used "nua"

Sorry, not to say bad about her, I felt sometimes their sentence construction is not as good as what we think they should be.....

Maybe i can try and explain with my thoughts on this issue.......

Actually, from what i heard from my wife, there is a varied way with which to use the language. It really depends on the situation,the person you are speaking to, the topic and the mode of communication. It really depends. The same word can be used as another way of putting across another idea in another situation.

For example, using the language in an sms could be different from verbally speaking to the intended party. There is an element of "casual-ness" in an sms which you dun really use when speaking verbally.

Also, it doesn't help that in Vietnamese, the same meaning can be brought across by using a myriad of sentence construction.

So i think it does not have anything to do with language proficiency but rather the different exposure to the usage of the language

In addition, one word in english can be translated in a few ways in vietnamese. This adds to the difficulty of using the language. For example the word "because" can be translated to "boi vi" or simply "vi" depending on the usage. We will tend to use just "vi" in informal settings like in an sms or in a conversation but in written form, we will tend to use "boi vi" so that its more appropriate.

Another example is the word "why". It can be translated as "tai sao", "vi sao" or simply "sao". It depends on how and where you used it in a sentence. I'll just cut and copy from Vdict for the example of different usage below......

Translation: tại sao, vì sao

1.)why was he late?
sao anh ấy đến muộn?

2.)why not?
tại sao không?

3.)that's the reason why
đó là lý do vì sao

4.)not to know why
không biết tại sao



Lastly, i believe that understanding the "vowels indicator" - the little indicators on top or below of the vowels - is very important. For it really tells you the meaning of the intended word in a sentence. (and we dun have them in a SMS so it makes our translation a bit harder)

Sad to say i haven master it! hahaha
So normally i will make translation based on the previous msg sent, the anticipated response and the probable replies.... (I think this method quite effective!)

Hope my thoughts helps!!!

[Reaper]

Lets see if this works.

The above link is to a diagram I just created that shows the "pitch" and "pronounciation" of the 6 tones used in Vietnam

[jackbl]

Good news to bro who wan to matchmake vn gal!!!

越南将设立国际婚介所
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（河内法新电）越南副总理范家谦下令当局制订越南第一家国际婚姻介绍所的计划，计划书最迟在6月以前提呈总 理阮晋勇。
　　范家谦也下令越南驻外大使馆采取措施，“保护越南公民在婚姻的合法权益。”

　　越南政府网站昨天在报道这则新闻时说，这个计划将立法管制婚姻介绍业务，有助于保护越南妇女免受羞辱和 家庭暴力的伤害。

　　非法媒人近年大増，从南部湄公河三角洲诱骗贫困农家的年轻女子参加“相亲”集会，甚至安排上百名越南女 郎让有意娶妻人士挑选，而这些人大多数是到越南进行短期“结婚假期”的韩国和台湾男子。

　　越南警方曾多次突击这类集会。去年11月，警方突击胡志明市一栋出租屋子，逮捕七名韩国男子、两名越南 媒人和161名越南妇女。

　　传媒也曾报道韩国和台湾发生越南妇女被新婚丈夫虐待的事件。

　　韩国和台湾两地的文化传统，都重男轻女，强调嫡子传宗接代。

　　韩国在去年6月取缔利用种族老套或歪曲资料的婚姻介绍所，以纠正虐待外国妻子、离婚和某些自杀案的趋势 。

韩国也展开协助外籍新娘适应韩国生活的计划。

　　韩国当局表示，去年结婚的新人，有11％是异族通婚，而农夫和渔民的新郎占了异族通婚的4 0％。

[jackbl]

Viva old Saigon
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Viva Saigon Food Market serves popular dishes from the three regions - north, central, and south Vietnam - including Hue beef noodles, Vietnamese salads, snails with diced pork and ba ba sweet dessert.


The food market is uniquely designed with alleyways, sign-posted from one to eight, reminiscent of village markets or old Saigon. The food stalls even have antique windows, staircases, old long play records and Pham Duy’s song books, which are hard to find in modern HCMC to help create the old-world feel.

Located in the largest shopping complex in Vietnam, Lotte Mart, District 7, Viva Saigon Food Market is the place to eat and meet on busy shopping days.

Reported by Vinh Bao

[jackbl]

For those in hcmc, its another PARTY you can go on 11th Jan.

Teen party to be held
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The company specializing in activities for teenagers, Yeah1, is to celebrate its 2nd anniversary at HCMC Youth Culture House in district 1 at 6pm January 11. The birthday party ‘Fruit Tea Gala Night’ will gather various local singers, dancers and teen models.


For those who addicted to Vietnamese Teen Pop music, tickets are a must as confirmed teen pop singers and performers include Quang Vinh, Bao Thy, Khong Tu Quynh, Tony, Luong Bang Quang, Wanbi Tuan Anh, Sy Luan, Jenny, Song Yen, Dong Nhi, Toc Tien and La Thang.

Teenagers can express their emotions and show off their dance moves in the Free Battle Event, where everyone can do free break-dance. They can imitate celebrities in ‘30s being celebrity’. They will also have a chance to meet and have photographs with about 110 teen models.

The competition events, which have been set up on the Yeah1 forum, can register to compete for the top prize of VND3 million ($175).




The highlight of the party is the contest, ‘Prince and Princess of the Streets’. Opened to all members of the Yeah1 Forum, girls and boys can enter or vote in the competition for best looking.

The party will be spiced up with the break-dance performance by the HCM City’s leading dance group’ Big South’.

Tickets are free. Conditions to receive tickets are posted on the Yeah1 forum: http://photo.yeah1.com/showthread.php?t=75008.

The birthday party will be broadcast live on the Yeah1 TV Show on STCV4. The main sponsor is Tan Hiep Phat Co.Ltd. with its new brand Fruit Tea

By Truong Son

[jackbl]

AFF Cup winners walk away with big bonuses
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Members of Vietnam’s national football team will receive a total bonus of VND9.3 billion (US$530,670) for winning last year’s AFF Suzuki Cup, football administration announced Wednesday.


The Vietnam Football Federation (VFF) said VND7.6 billion ($434,000) of the total cash would be divided between the team members according to a ranking system.

There are also gifts worth VND370 million which include a car from Suzuki and an LCD television.

VFF said everyone on the team, including players, the Portuguese coach Henrique Calisto, officials and doctors, would be paid according to their contribution and could expect sums of VND300 million, VND200 million, VND150 million or VND100 million.

The remaining VND2.6 billion in cash would be for personal bonuses - VND430 million for Calisto and VND230 million each for players Duong Hong Son, Le Cong Vinh and Nguyen Vu Phong.

Son will walk away with a tidy sum having also won the cup’s Most Valuable Player award of $5,000.

Vietnam won the AFF Suzuki Cup last December after defeating arch-foe Thailand 3-2 on aggregate. VFF and sponsors are providing the bonuses, VFF said.

Reported by Lan Phuong - Quang Tuyen

[jackbl]

Students’ laptops a curse in disguise?
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Many university students convince their parents to buy them expensive laptops for school only to neglect their studies for pornography, online games and chat rooms.


A third-year business student at Ho Chi Minh City’s University of Economics, Le Duy T., convinced his mother to buy him a laptop by saying that he needed it for research.

“Without a laptop, I can’t study!” he told her.

But ever since his mother bought him the computer, T. has spent less time studying and more time chatting, listening to music and downloading and watching films. He stays up most nights until 3 or 4 a.m., glued to the screen without spending a minute on his school assignments.

Huynh Van Ph., a student at the Ho Chi Minh City Information Technology College told his parents he needed a computer for studying as well. “It’s useful to have a laptop,” he says.

“We can access sex websites for free anywhere there’s Wi-Fi,” he says without a hint of irony.

A student at HCMC’s Vocational College No.8, says he saves more than VND500,000 (US$29.58) per month playing games on his computer rather than paying heftier fees at Internet shops like he used to.

Another student at the college, Tuan A., says he plays games all day everyday.

Classmate Thanh T. says “We mainly use computers to play games,” adding that users often find Wi-Fi hotspots so they don’t have to worry about slow connections at Internet cafes.

Truong The S. from the University of Economics says he uses his laptop to “save” him when he runs out of money or loses a football bet.

“I’ve had the laptop for five months, but I’ve only used it a couple of times because it’s usually at the pawnshop,” he says.

Reported by Nguyen Thanh Nam

[jackbl]

HCMC announces five days off for Tet
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The HCM City People’s Committee has announced a five-day holiday for Tet later this month.

All city agencies will be closed from January 25 to 28 but since January 25 falls on a Sunday, the 29th will be a holiday too.

The People's Committee has asked all organizations, households, and others to fly the national flag during Tet.

Tet, the lunar New Year festival, is the most important Vietnamese holiday. It marks the time for family reunions, exchanging gifts and best wishes, and generally welcome a new year with gaiety.
Source: Tuoi Tre – Translated by H.Mien

[KangTuo]

my sms to the gal:

moi ngay a o geylang uong ca phe, a thay ban e lai ngoi choi voi ban a. Nhung e chi o 51 lam va uong bia voi nguoi khach, kg biet di ngoai gap a. A buon wa.


long sms from the gal:

E tu ngay qua day den gio chi biet tien tien a la nguoi dau tien e nghi den o sin nay. Nhung a da lam mat di cam nhan cua e a biet kg? A thay ban a va ban e cung thay vay a gion e kg? E thay ban a nt dien thoai ban a dua ban e di lam di bien con a thi sao. Hom do e kg di lam doi a ca ngay a dua e ra bien dua ngoi a lai doi ve. A co nghi den cam nhan e kg?

Care to interprete?


My reply to her:

A co nghi den cam nhan e. E co biet a tim e 1tuan roi kg? A nt e nhieu nhung e kg tra loi. Hom no a biet e doi a dua e di bien, a cho e doi lau. Hom no di bien a buon vi a lam viec kg dc nen chi di 1ti, a lai e ve nha.

[jackbl]

Enjoy your trip to vn and hope to see u back soon and many sms fr your NEW galsssssssssss.....

Originally Posted by KangTuo

my sms to the gal: