Well....IMHO both reports could very well and easily be correct and is what actually happened.
Alcohol, ladies present, smugness arising from the knowledge that one is supposedly not doing anything wrong and how some guys become instant heroes in ChangPing from the zeroes that they are in real life; combine all or even parts of this, it is quite easy for me to imagine that the first group reported had become abusive to the officials and got the treatment described. Note the words "... They ignored protests and threats of contacting the embassy ....." Protests? Threats? What just because they flash their passports, they expect serious officials to start bowing to them....?!
The second group most probably acted the way that is only to be expected in the face of officialdom - in China or anywhere in the world - and had of course been treated accordingly. And I've speculated in the past that I think this yanda also aims to rehabilitate China's international standing and to rid itself from the quite rapidly developing reputation as a sex destination.
Flash officials your foreign passport? Act superior and belligerent? Maaaan... What a ripe fruit to be made an example of!!
Both reports easily accurate and I for one welcome any kind of report, POV etc - as this to me is the primary usefulness of any forum - the FREE and enthusiastic exchange of such for the benefit of all; instead of any individuals or group of individual assuming supposed authority as the final arbiter of what can or cannot be said on the forum.... And to have a pack of goonish bully boys to discredit anybody who may have, in THEIR opinion, stepped "out of line." And oh yeah, to then also follow it up with their clownish and rabid gang of mass zappers!
You got a different POV? A different experience /understanding of any topic? GREAT! By all means come out with it and discuss it rationally, gentlemanly and with the intention of only enriching the information flow in here - and not just to show your supposedly superior information flow, intellect etc.
Ooops... Have I just raised the ire of some "Taikors" here again? Activated the clarion call to the mass zappers again?? LOL! Come on .... Aren't y'all getting tired of this infantile knee-jerk reaction yet??!!
And my above posting of course also applies to the report by hot1168.
Right away being jumped upon just because of an innocent - and quite useful I may add - report that may (???!!) divert away some body else's rice bowl to a destination that the rest of us may be interested in?
This "flaming" & "argument" is very unhealthy to the forum/thread.
The primary objective for most of us coming into this thread is to know what is happening in terms of news, gossips, info, etc, especially in "hard times" like now.
Let's accept that not all updates are 100% accurate as there are many personal POV in them. Also, any updates provided from our Chinese friends (MMs, mummy, managers. etc) may not be accurate too as they also hearsay from others. For example, when someone "reported" 50% of the MMs have left CP, we really can't be sure how the percentile is being ascertained.
We should just welcome all updates and gauge for ourselves.
If this goes on, no one would wants to contribute for fear of being criticized or distrust.
Looking at the way things are, I, for one, would not want to bother posting any more updates that I may have.
This "flaming" & "argument" is very unhealthy to the forum/thread.
The primary objective for most of us coming into this thread is to know what is happening in terms of news, gossips, info, etc, especially in "hard times" like now.
Let's accept that not all updates are 100% accurate as there are many personal POV in them. Also, any updates provided from our Chinese friends (MMs, mummy, managers. etc) may not be accurate too as they also hearsay from others. For example, when someone "reported" 50% of the MMs have left CP, we really can't be sure how the percentile is being ascertained.
We should just welcome all updates and gauge for ourselves.
If this goes on, no one would wants to contribute for fear of being criticized or distrust.
Looking at the way things are, I, for one, would not want to bother posting any more updates that I may have.
A senior Party leader from Guangdong province vowed on Wednesday to take tougher action against prostitution and crimes linked to the sex trade as the southern economic powerhouse continues its three-month crackdown on prostitution.
"We will continue our investigation into the prostitution industry and strengthen our efforts to tackle the problem," said Hu Chunhua, Party chief of Guangdong. Hu made the remarks at a panel discussion during the annual session of the National People's Congress, which convened in Beijing on Wednesday.
The sweeping crackdown came a day after a China Central Television report on Feb 9 exposed rampant prostitution in massage parlours and hotels in Dongguan, about 100 km from Hong Kong.
As of Feb 28, more than 3,100 entertainment venues across the province have been shut down for their alleged involvement in prostitution. Among the shuttered venues, 2,147 are located in Dongguan, a city known for its large manufacturing and trade sectors but also for its underground casino resorts, bathhouses, massage parlours and backstreet brothels.
"We had already planned a move to crack down on prostitution this year - like the way we fought against drugs last year. The CCTV reports of Dongguan's rampant sex trade forced us to launch the campaign earlier," Hu said.
Hu said police have made 363 arrests across the province and are investigating 30 officials in Dongguan.
"The government was partly responsible for the development of the sex trade in Dongguan so we introduced an accountability system to punish officials who provided protection to illegal sex activities," Hu said.
Yan Xiaokang, Dongguan's deputy mayor and police chief, has been sacked and several police officers in city townships have been punished, Hu said. "Offenders, including organizers, operators and those who gained from the sex trade, will be particularly targeted in the crackdown," Hu added.
Yuan Baocheng, mayor of Dongguan, declined to say on Monday how the crackdown would affect the city's economy. At last year's NPC session, Yuan said the city would not rely on the sex trade, gambling and drugs for its economic growth.
"I have to say that some social problems, such as underground prostitution, the drug trade and gambling, have emerged in Dongguan along with other cities in Guangdong, following decades of rapid economic development," he said.
Media reports have estimated that the sex industry has contributed about one-tenth of the city's revenue.
Dongguan's economy grew by 9.8 per cent year-on-year to 550 billion yuan (S$114 billion) in 2013.
Media reports have also estimated that at least 300,000 people work in the sex industry in Dongguan. China Daily could not confirm the number.
"But we will never rely on such negative factors to drive economic development," Yuan said.
------ KatoeyNewsNetwork
Bro,
I totally agree with both of u. I would recommend in the future all bro read and look carefully at other bro's posting before putting in their own criticisms.
If not as quoted by dominic: "If this goes on, no one would wants to contribute for fear of being criticized or distrust" Looking at the way things are, I, for one, would not want to bother posting any more updates that I may have.
Thanks and hopefully this ends here ... we are here to gather information and have fun, not to flame one another (Advice is always appreciated but .....)
I got this news from a friend and I think I should share it to warn fellow bros here.
Not a vivid poster so I will be short and sharp:
My friends were at the family ktv (Star Party) with a few regular MMs. A few GongAn came in after about half an hour with no warning. The attitude was quite aggressive surprisingly. They ordered the MMs out and demanded IDs from my friends. Despite showing them their Singapore passports, they actually confiscated them and told my friends to sit and wait for the police cars as they will be arrested.
They ignored protests and threats of contacting the embassy and started taking out the plastic handcuffs. After cuffing my friends, they left the room and about 5 mins later, some guy who worked for the ktv came in and told my friends that the GongAn can let them go for 10000 rmb. In the end, they bargained till 5000 rmb and was let off.
My friends left the ktv and later their MMs told them they were also told to pay 500rmb to be let off.
Now they suspect this family ktv is a black shop and will alert the GongAn if foreigners come in with MMs and exhort money from them.
So bros be careful and avoid this ktv, now they have exhortion...
I have heard about similar extortion case which was encountered by my friend's friend and his girlfriend (Not too sure if it is true and pls don't zap me for this. I am just sharing what I heard.) in Huihua Hotel of which 2 policeman went knocking on his hotel door, went through all the verification questions, and demanded for 4000RMB should the couple want to be left alone or otherwise, the police will bring them back to the police station for further questioning. Not wanting to create a issue out of this, 4000RMB was given.
I guess every foreign visitor (Hongkongers inclusive) that goes CP for recreational purposes wants as little trouble as possible. Most important thing to the visitors is enjoyment. The police and the 'police' knows about this and it gives them the opportunity to make some quick money out of this.
I think things like this happens everyday in China in one way or another. If you have to go to HK/SZ/GZ because you can't change your air ticket (just like myself), it doesn't mean that you have to go to CP. Just make additional efforts to contact your previous bonks and arrange to meet them in SZ or GZ. If you don't have any contacts for previous bonks, you can try contacting the mummies or agents. Of course, I wouldn't contact an agent who is too high profile here. God knows, if the agent gets caught, I might be implicated as well. Remember, having an air ticket to HK/SZ/GZ DOES NOT mean that you have to party and stay in CP!
I am heading down to CP tomorrow with my friends. And yes, for the same reasons that many would have here, we cannot cancel our trip. Through my friend's contact (an agent in CP), our 4 nights SZ/GZ trip has been planned. Initially I was quite against this as non of us is familiar with SZ and GZ. However, after reading the email that my friend forwarded to me on the itinerary, I decided to give it a try.
Below is an extract of the itinerary:
Day 1: Arrival in GZ
- Proceed to CP for lunch and mm selection
- Footie, DVD shopping, cut hair, shopping
- Viewing of selected mm and confirmation
- Proceed to SZ, check in hotel and dinner
- Family ktv
Day 2: SZ to CP
- Lunch in CP follow by second selection of mm for our trip to a hotspring villa in GZ (advised by agent if possible, find someone comfortable-ex bonk/kc, as will be spending 2 days at the hot spring villa)
- Proceed to villa in GZ. Was told that this villa has got a private hot spring pool, 7 bedrooms, 1 pool table, 1 MJ table, 1 BBQ pit and 1 private ktv room!
- Dinner in GZ follow by private KTV session in villa and hotspring.
Day 3: GZ
- Lunch (farm setting restaurant)
- Visiting places of interest around the villa. 'Look mountain look sea'/shopping for BBQ food (dinner)/hotspring
- BBQ dinner
- KTV
Day 4: GZ to CP to SZ
- Early lunch in GZ and back to CP to offload the mm and pick new ones
- Footie
- CP to SZ
- Dinner follow by clubbing
Days 5: SZ
- Lunch follow by spa / shopping
- Dinner & home sweet home
Throughout these 5 days, we have requested that the agent to follow us through as we are not familiar with SZ and GZ. We have also make request for the agent to have our BBQ food and our beers prepared.
All in all, we just want to enjoy ourselves and have as little problem/trouble as possible. By moving our party places away from Dongguan, my friends and I felt that we will enjoy oursleves more. We can be sure that the chances of police knocking on our doors (both hotel & ktv) will be reduced to the minimum. I wouldn't want to be singing and hugging a girl while constantly looking at the door worrying that the police might step in.
And of course, if you think that all these police knocking on doors and checking are not real or you believe that you will not be that unlucky or you are mentally prepared for the consequences, I am sure CP welcomes you!
Bro,
I totally agree with both of u. I would recommend in the future all bro read and look carefully at other bro's posting before putting in their own criticisms.
If not as quoted by dominic: "If this goes on, no one would wants to contribute for fear of being criticized or distrust" Looking at the way things are, I, for one, would not want to bother posting any more updates that I may have.
Thanks and hopefully this ends here ... we are here to gather information and have fun, not to flame one another (Advice is always appreciated but .....)
Relax...
Sharing is good mah. Real or not real, depends on personal view loh.
So long u not forcing down ur ideas to others why bother.
We can share all we want, they believe or not, or they think we sabo or not, it's all up to them. Can't control how others think right...
Just like some post hearsay raid, others say they onsite, nothing wrong...so who to believe???
Choose the one u wish to believe loh. Just like what FGG say.
I have heard about similar extortion case which was encountered by my friend's friend and his girlfriend (Not too sure if it is true and pls don't zap me for this. I am just sharing what I heard.) in Huihua Hotel of which 2 policeman went knocking on his hotel door, went through all the verification questions, and demanded for 4000RMB should the couple want to be left alone or otherwise, the police will bring them back to the police station for further questioning. Not wanting to create a issue out of this, 4000RMB was given.
I guess every foreign visitor (Hongkongers inclusive) that goes CP for recreational purposes wants as little trouble as possible. Most important thing to the visitors is enjoyment. The police and the 'police' knows about this and it gives them the opportunity to make some quick money out of this.
I think things like this happens everyday in China in one way or another. If you have to go to HK/SZ/GZ because you can't change your air ticket (just like myself), it doesn't mean that you have to go to CP. Just make additional efforts to contact your previous bonks and arrange to meet them in SZ or GZ. If you don't have any contacts for previous bonks, you can try contacting the mummies or agents. Of course, I wouldn't contact an agent who is too high profile here. God knows, if the agent gets caught, I might be implicated as well. Remember, having an air ticket to HK/SZ/GZ DOES NOT mean that you have to party and stay in CP!
I am heading down to CP tomorrow with my friends. And yes, for the same reasons that many would have here, we cannot cancel our trip. Through my friend's contact (an agent in CP), our 4 nights SZ/GZ trip has been planned. Initially I was quite against this as non of us is familiar with SZ and GZ. However, after reading the email that my friend forwarded to me on the itinerary, I decided to give it a try.
Below is an extract of the itinerary:
Day 1: Arrival in GZ
- Proceed to CP for lunch and mm selection
- Footie, DVD shopping, cut hair, shopping
- Viewing of selected mm and confirmation
- Proceed to SZ, check in hotel and dinner
- Family ktv
Day 2: SZ to CP
- Lunch in CP follow by second selection of mm for our trip to a hotspring villa in GZ (advised by agent if possible, find someone comfortable-ex bonk/kc, as will be spending 2 days at the hot spring villa)
- Proceed to villa in GZ. Was told that this villa has got a private hot spring pool, 7 bedrooms, 1 pool table, 1 MJ table, 1 BBQ pit and 1 private ktv room!
- Dinner in GZ follow by private KTV session in villa and hotspring.
Day 3: GZ
- Lunch (farm setting restaurant)
- Visiting places of interest around the villa. 'Look mountain look sea'/shopping for BBQ food (dinner)/hotspring
- BBQ dinner
- KTV
Day 4: GZ to CP to SZ
- Early lunch in GZ and back to CP to offload the mm and pick new ones
- Footie
- CP to SZ
- Dinner follow by clubbing
Days 5: SZ
- Lunch follow by spa / shopping
- Dinner & home sweet home
Throughout these 5 days, we have requested that the agent to follow us through as we are not familiar with SZ and GZ. We have also make request for the agent to have our BBQ food and our beers prepared.
All in all, we just want to enjoy ourselves and have as little problem/trouble as possible. By moving our party places away from Dongguan, my friends and I felt that we will enjoy oursleves more. We can be sure that the chances of police knocking on our doors (both hotel & ktv) will be reduced to the minimum. I wouldn't want to be singing and hugging a girl while constantly looking at the door worrying that the police might step in.
And of course, if you think that all these police knocking on doors and checking are not real or you believe that you will not be that unlucky or you are mentally prepared for the consequences, I am sure CP welcomes you!
I have heard about similar extortion case which was encountered by my friend's friend and his girlfriend (Not too sure if it is true and pls don't zap me for this. I am just sharing what I heard.) in Huihua Hotel of which 2 policeman went knocking on his hotel door, went through all the verification questions, and demanded for 4000RMB should the couple want to be left alone or otherwise, the police will bring them back to the police station for further questioning. Not wanting to create a issue out of this, 4000RMB was given.
I guess every foreign visitor (Hongkongers inclusive) that goes CP for recreational purposes wants as little trouble as possible. Most important thing to the visitors is enjoyment. The police and the 'police' knows about this and it gives them the opportunity to make some quick money out of this.
I think things like this happens everyday in China in one way or another. If you have to go to HK/SZ/GZ because you can't change your air ticket (just like myself), it doesn't mean that you have to go to CP. Just make additional efforts to contact your previous bonks and arrange to meet them in SZ or GZ. If you don't have any contacts for previous bonks, you can try contacting the mummies or agents. Of course, I wouldn't contact an agent who is too high profile here. God knows, if the agent gets caught, I might be implicated as well. Remember, having an air ticket to HK/SZ/GZ DOES NOT mean that you have to party and stay in CP!
I am heading down to CP tomorrow with my friends. And yes, for the same reasons that many would have here, we cannot cancel our trip. Through my friend's contact (an agent in CP), our 4 nights SZ/GZ trip has been planned. Initially I was quite against this as non of us is familiar with SZ and GZ. However, after reading the email that my friend forwarded to me on the itinerary, I decided to give it a try.
Below is an extract of the itinerary:
Day 1: Arrival in GZ
- Proceed to CP for lunch and mm selection
- Footie, DVD shopping, cut hair, shopping
- Viewing of selected mm and confirmation
- Proceed to SZ, check in hotel and dinner
- Family ktv
Day 2: SZ to CP
- Lunch in CP follow by second selection of mm for our trip to a hotspring villa in GZ (advised by agent if possible, find someone comfortable-ex bonk/kc, as will be spending 2 days at the hot spring villa)
- Proceed to villa in GZ. Was told that this villa has got a private hot spring pool, 7 bedrooms, 1 pool table, 1 MJ table, 1 BBQ pit and 1 private ktv room!
- Dinner in GZ follow by private KTV session in villa and hotspring.
Day 3: GZ
- Lunch (farm setting restaurant)
- Visiting places of interest around the villa. 'Look mountain look sea'/shopping for BBQ food (dinner)/hotspring
- BBQ dinner
- KTV
Day 4: GZ to CP to SZ
- Early lunch in GZ and back to CP to offload the mm and pick new ones
- Footie
- CP to SZ
- Dinner follow by clubbing
Days 5: SZ
- Lunch follow by spa / shopping
- Dinner & home sweet home
Throughout these 5 days, we have requested that the agent to follow us through as we are not familiar with SZ and GZ. We have also make request for the agent to have our BBQ food and our beers prepared.
All in all, we just want to enjoy ourselves and have as little problem/trouble as possible. By moving our party places away from Dongguan, my friends and I felt that we will enjoy oursleves more. We can be sure that the chances of police knocking on our doors (both hotel & ktv) will be reduced to the minimum. I wouldn't want to be singing and hugging a girl while constantly looking at the door worrying that the police might step in.
And of course, if you think that all these police knocking on doors and checking are not real or you believe that you will not be that unlucky or you are mentally prepared for the consequences, I am sure CP welcomes you!
Can any bros pls help to recomend agent that has similar itinerary like this. Thanks in advance. Has already cancel my cp hotel. Will be touching down GZ on 17March.
[QUOTE=lcw16;10611695]I have heard about similar extortion case which was encountered by my friend's friend and his girlfriend (Not too sure if it is true and pls don't zap me for this. I am just sharing what I heard.) in Huihua Hotel of which 2 policeman went knocking on his hotel door, went through all the verification questions, and demanded for 4000RMB should the couple want to be left alone or otherwise, the police will bring them back to the police station for further questioning. Not wanting to create a issue out of this, 4000RMB was given.
Do you need to register your gals in SZ or GZ when you check in?
I have heard about similar extortion case which was encountered by my friend's friend and his girlfriend (Not too sure if it is true and pls don't zap me for this. I am just sharing what I heard.) in Huihua Hotel of which 2 policeman went knocking on his hotel door, went through all the verification questions, and demanded for 4000RMB should the couple want to be left alone or otherwise, the police will bring them back to the police station for further questioning. Not wanting to create a issue out of this, 4000RMB was given.
I guess every foreign visitor (Hongkongers inclusive) that goes CP for recreational purposes wants as little trouble as possible. Most important thing to the visitors is enjoyment. The police and the 'police' knows about this and it gives them the opportunity to make some quick money out of this.
I think things like this happens everyday in China in one way or another. If you have to go to HK/SZ/GZ because you can't change your air ticket (just like myself), it doesn't mean that you have to go to CP. Just make additional efforts to contact your previous bonks and arrange to meet them in SZ or GZ. If you don't have any contacts for previous bonks, you can try contacting the mummies or agents. Of course, I wouldn't contact an agent who is too high profile here. God knows, if the agent gets caught, I might be implicated as well. Remember, having an air ticket to HK/SZ/GZ DOES NOT mean that you have to party and stay in CP!
I am heading down to CP tomorrow with my friends. And yes, for the same reasons that many would have here, we cannot cancel our trip. Through my friend's contact (an agent in CP), our 4 nights SZ/GZ trip has been planned. Initially I was quite against this as non of us is familiar with SZ and GZ. However, after reading the email that my friend forwarded to me on the itinerary, I decided to give it a try.
Below is an extract of the itinerary:
Day 1: Arrival in GZ
- Proceed to CP for lunch and mm selection
- Footie, DVD shopping, cut hair, shopping
- Viewing of selected mm and confirmation
- Proceed to SZ, check in hotel and dinner
- Family ktv
Day 2: SZ to CP
- Lunch in CP follow by second selection of mm for our trip to a hotspring villa in GZ (advised by agent if possible, find someone comfortable-ex bonk/kc, as will be spending 2 days at the hot spring villa)
- Proceed to villa in GZ. Was told that this villa has got a private hot spring pool, 7 bedrooms, 1 pool table, 1 MJ table, 1 BBQ pit and 1 private ktv room!
- Dinner in GZ follow by private KTV session in villa and hotspring.
Day 3: GZ
- Lunch (farm setting restaurant)
- Visiting places of interest around the villa. 'Look mountain look sea'/shopping for BBQ food (dinner)/hotspring
- BBQ dinner
- KTV
Day 4: GZ to CP to SZ
- Early lunch in GZ and back to CP to offload the mm and pick new ones
- Footie
- CP to SZ
- Dinner follow by clubbing
Days 5: SZ
- Lunch follow by spa / shopping
- Dinner & home sweet home
Throughout these 5 days, we have requested that the agent to follow us through as we are not familiar with SZ and GZ. We have also make request for the agent to have our BBQ food and our beers prepared.
All in all, we just want to enjoy ourselves and have as little problem/trouble as possible. By moving our party places away from Dongguan, my friends and I felt that we will enjoy oursleves more. We can be sure that the chances of police knocking on our doors (both hotel & ktv) will be reduced to the minimum. I wouldn't want to be singing and hugging a girl while constantly looking at the door worrying that the police might step in.
And of course, if you think that all these police knocking on doors and checking are not real or you believe that you will not be that unlucky or you are mentally prepared for the consequences, I am sure CP welcomes you!
Wah....a lot of travelling man. By car or by train,
- GZ to CP or back will need 1.5 to 2hrs.
- CP to SZ estimated 45mins.
- Assuming it is at Luohu SZ to GZ via train is another another 2hrs.
- Including misc travelling....a lot of time is gonna wasted on travelling man.
Wah....a lot of travelling man. By car or by train,
- GZ to CP or back will need 1.5 to 2hrs.
- CP to SZ estimated 45mins.
- Assuming it is at Luohu SZ to GZ via train is another another 2hrs.
- Including misc travelling....a lot of time is gonna wasted on travelling man.
Siong ah.
Desperate times call for desperate measures!! I also got a trip planned for end March.. now wondering what to do for 4n/5day trip??? Landing in SZ, but planned for CA/CP outings.
Need some new ideas for itinerary! Maybe hibernate at real hot spring spa..
According to MF management, they plan to reopen late March/early April.
At least now got family KTV / PZL open in CP, just call agent book MM and go have regular fun lo.... family KTV expenditure much cheaper anyway... RMB380 get snacks + 24 beers.
Besides KTV, can also go gokarts etc etc.... but if you decide to visit hot spring, try to choose an authentic one, a lot in hui zhou called hot springs but all artificial, quite boring.
Looking at the interview of this Senior Guangdong official two days ago at Beijing. Its not just DG that there is no way will able to return to the pass glory. The whole of Guangdong will be subject to major vice clampdowns .
06-03-2014, 10:38 AM
Re: Events In CP
