Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)

[aong18]

Hi, first time going to HCM. Anyone could intro any nice bar for soccer and tabao. Other interesting places are welcome too. Will be staying at grandsliver

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by FireShark

Hahaha..... Maybe I will pm him....... but likely can't join him
My BX with me how to join. Go there relax and maybe release some Bird in temple again.

so not sure why you bother to pm if you unlikely can attend...dun waste time lah...

make sure you released the right birdies...dun spray the wrong birdies will do...think I knew where you release these birdies...the problem is when you release these birdies then get caught again and resold to others...this is recycling...oops unless the birds life is up...then the cycle repeats...

[jimfairy]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

make sure you released the right birdies...dun spray the wrong birdies will do...think I knew where you release these birdies...the problem is when you release these birdies then get caught again and resold to others...this is recycling...oops unless the birds life is up...then the cycle repeats...

Hihi, bro H88, the vendors do not need to go catch them, the birds will fly back to them as the birds know they can get foods there haha.. is a cashless n labourless biz...

[TonyCheong]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

make sure you released the right birdies...dun spray the wrong birdies will do...think I knew where you release these birdies...the problem is when you release these birdies then get caught again and resold to others...this is recycling...oops unless the birds life is up...then the cycle repeats...

I just don't get the philosophy of this act.
Yes the act of 放生 (birds, turtles, etc.) is a noble cause if it's done in a very remote area where the chances of the animal being poached again is very unlikely.

But if I know it's going to be "recycled" again then what's the point?
A donation in kind to the temple is more practical.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by jimfairy

Hihi, bro H88, the vendors do not need to go catch them, the birds will fly back to them as the birds know they can get foods there haha.. is a cashless n labourless biz...

haha....fully agreed...

Originally Posted by TonyCheong

I just don't get the philosophy of this act.
Yes the act of 放生 (birds, turtles, etc.) is a noble cause if it's done in a very remote area where the chances of the animal being poached again is very unlikely.

But if I know it's going to be "recycled" again then what's the point?
A donation in kind to the temple is more practical.

well...all these are act of kindness...any innocent ppl will not know that the birdies are recycled...haha....

most of the temples in hcm built ponds to keep all these tortoises...so not sure if this is really 放生...haizzz....

[TonyCheong]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

well...all these are act of kindness...any innocent ppl will not know that the birdies are recycled...haha....

most of the temples in hcm built ponds to keep all these tortoises...so not sure if this is really 放生...haizzz....

Haizzz vicious cycle.

Acts of kindness are carried out in daily life.
Your HCMC charity activities are a very good example.
Contribute money and resources to buy food and distribute to temples.

If one finds solace in buying animals to 放生 then I feel that's superficial.
The money can be put into better use.
No offence to any one.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong

Acts of kindness are carried out in daily life.
Your HCMC charity activities are a very good example.
Contribute money and resources to buy food and distribute to temples.

correction...we bought the food ingredients and distribute to the poor and needies...some temples house the orphanage so we give not cash but food such as biscuits and milk to the children...rice for the temple to cook for orphanages...of course we cannot control who gets to eat the rice...haizzzz....

last Hungry Ghost Festival around late July 2104, we visited the Old Folks Home and donated milk and biscuits including 100K angpow to 30 old folks...and had a 2 hour session chatting with the Old Folks...about 8 of the old folks sang folk songs for us...bro jimfairy was with us and you can ask him...we find these activities more meaningful...

[jimfairy]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

last Hungry Ghost Festival around late July 2104, we visited the Old Folks Home and donated milk and biscuits including 100K angpow to 30 old folks...and had a 2 hour session chatting with the Old Folks...about 8 of the old folks sang folk songs for us...bro jimfairy was with us and you can ask him...we find these activities more meaningful...

Sigh.....saddest part is the kids hospital, so many sick kids in the hospital n make to sleep at the corridors outside the wards due to insufficient of wards n beds.. tears jux come out by itself... haizzzz...
We r really lucky that we dun see this in our country..

[TonyCheong]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

bro jimfairy was with us and you can ask him...we find these activities more meaningful...

Originally Posted by jimfairy

Sigh.....saddest part is the kids hospital, so many sick kids in the hospital n make to sleep at the corridors outside the wards due to insufficient of wards n beds.. tears jux come out by itself... haizzzz...
We r really lucky that we dun see this in our country..

Thumbs up for you guys!

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong

But if I know it's going to be "recycled" again then what's the point?
A donation in kind to the temple is more practical.

The truth about this is "letting go", example, letting go desire.... not physically let something free. It is the same as many do not understand, why we light a candle, 3 joss sticks, a glass of water.

It is better to use money to help ppl than to buy animals n let them free.

[TonyCheong]

Originally Posted by naemlo

The truth about this is "letting go", example, letting go desire.... not physically let something free. It is the same as many do not understand, why we light a candle, 3 joss sticks, a glass of water.

The concept of this I can understand but...

Originally Posted by naemlo

It is better to use money to help ppl than to buy animals n let them free.

By contributing effort, resources and teaching skills to help people directly I feel is more meaningful, productive and efficient.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong

By contributing effort, resources and teaching skills to help people directly I feel is more meaningful, productive and efficient.

good...now we are trying to do this as charity..."Gift of Hope - Scholarship Fund"

identify up to 5 students...students which can study but because family poor cannot afford to let them study...so we sent locals together with us go to visit the family to find out...interview the teachers and then make a decision to help the students with yearly scholarship...we may pay the school fees directly on their behalf...and some monthly pocket money...criteria the student must pass yearly with good results and progressed to next level...the group will fund till students graduate from University...indirectly we are their guardians...plenty of details to work out...because we have not identify any students...we spoke to many local Viets to intro...so far nothing yet...already told my sisters to visit schools to get potential candidates but so far not yet...

we may visit a family in Cai Lay, Tieng Giang...heard from a friend that the student was asked to go to work because family cannot afford...but student wanted to continue study...so hopefully we get our first student soon...

we also talking to a mother from Chau Doc, An Giang, whose daughter is now in Secondary School...we will fund her daughter if she can admit to University...we knew how tough to get into Vn University so is not a give me...

Hope you guys bear with me...some may not like to read all this then pls skip..but still related to Vietnam and HCM...I did mentioned that to us HCM is just not sex but we did many things there now...^^

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

thank you for sharing...my website is updated...haha...nowadays toughie if you dun know where to finds gals...will be expensive for newbies to chiong HCM...haizzzz....

with reference to the above, IMHO, I believe all these will be temporary...some how something will come up and you need to be patience...there are places that are fun but illegal and need local knowledge to find them...

if anyone with loads of cash then the so called D1 places will still be the main places to chiong...Catwalk, Fortune II Ktv, 166 Nguyen Bieu...for FL you can use some of the disco...you may need the Manager to intro who are the FL...prices may be steep but always nego...

if you have some local guys to bring around then that is best...otherwise skip HCM and go elsewhere to chiong...

the above is just my personal opinion...not to upset anyone...pls skip this if you dun like to read...^^

[Happyman007]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

good...now we are trying to do this as charity..."Gift of Hope - Scholarship Fund"

Hope you guys bear with me...some may not like to read all this then pls skip..but still related to Vietnam and HCM...I did mentioned that to us HCM is just not sex but we did many things there now...^^

Good work and hope you have a facebook fan page on this, so can upload photo, create event and gather fund for certain event etc

[thunderbird]

Dear friends,

Can anyone (willing) share some info on HCMC for a newbie...? I am planning to visit HCMC in November, and would be most happy if anyone can provide some info on good KTV and girls..??

Thanks.

Thunderbord