First time at Geylang, can't stop worrying about STD risk

[worried3]

Yesterday I went to Geylang for the first time and had my first commercial sex experience with a PRC WL. We had sex with a condom but it also slipped off (we put another one back on). But I also received and gave unprotected oral sex.

While I enjoyed the experience and would want to go again, I'm so worried about the risk of catching something. Please, can someone give me advice on what I should do? I read online that unprotected BJs are very risky.

Please, no trolls. Would appreciate advice from people who frequent Geylang, and from anyone who's caught STDs before. Is there anything I can do now to reduce the risk of getting STDs? What are the chances of catching STDs from an encounter like mine?

[sammyboyfor]

Yesterday I went to Geylang for the first time and had my first commercial sex experience with a PRC WL. We had sex with a condom but it also slipped off (we put another one back on). But I also received and gave unprotected oral sex.

While I enjoyed the experience and would want to go again, I'm so worried about the risk of catching something. Please, can someone give me advice on what I should do? I read online that unprotected BJs are very risky.

Please, no trolls. Would appreciate advice from people who frequent Geylang, and from anyone who's caught STDs before. Is there anything I can do now to reduce the risk of getting STDs? What are the chances of catching STDs from an encounter like mine?

Any sex act carries a degree of risk regardless of who it is with. Loads of people have caught STDs from girlfriends, one night stands... even wives/husbands given the promiscuous lives that many people lead in this day and age.

However given that fact that Geylang girls are regularly screened the risk they pose has to be a lot lower compared to the general population.

It is impossible to quantify the probability that you have caught something with just a single encounter but it would definitely have to be classed as "low" but not zero.

The only way to tell is to get tested on a regular basis if you're going to indulge in this new "hobby".

There are members here who have been fucking whores for decades and have never caught a thing.

[worried3]

Any sex act carries a degree of risk regardless of who it is with. Loads of people have caught STDs from girlfriends, one night stands... even wives/husbands given the promiscuous lives that many people lead in this day and age.

However given that fact that Geylang girls are regularly screened the risk they pose has to be a lot lower compared to the general population.

It is impossible to quantify the probability that you have caught something with just a single encounter but it would definitely have to be classed as "low" but not zero.

The only way to tell is to get tested on a regular basis if you're going to indulge in this new "hobby".

There are members here who have been fucking whores for decades and have never caught a thing.

Thanks for the reply sammyboy, appreciate it. Do you know if there are any areas in geylang that are considered 'safer' than others? Apart from using protection during FJ, any other things one can do to significantly reduce the risk? Using protection during BJs is something I've never done and I'm worried I might not do it in the heat of the moment. Also I've been reading reviews and have shortlisted some girls that I'm interested in, but not sure if they are considered riskier since they are more popular.

[sammyboyfor]

Thanks for the reply sammyboy, appreciate it. Do you know if there are any areas in geylang that are considered 'safer' than others? Apart from using protection during FJ, any other things one can do to significantly reduce the risk? Using protection during BJs is something I've never done and I'm worried I might not do it in the heat of the moment. Also I've been reading reviews and have shortlisted some girls that I'm interested in, but not sure if they are considered riskier since they are more popular.

It is impossible to quantify the risk according area.

If you want to be as safe as possible just assume that every single sex partner you have could pass you something nasty and so protection for both oral and penetrative sex is necessary.

If you are a bit more gung ho then unprotected oral sex but protected penetrative sex is the next best option. The risk of HIV is very, very low but you run the risk of other common STDs which are treatable and/or not life threatening.

Your current problem is mental not physical. :D As you gain experience you'll start worrying less to the point where a visit to Geylang is just like going for a cup of coffee. :)

[worried3]

The risk of HIV is very, very low but you run the risk of other common STDs which are treatable and/or not life threatening.

Your current problem is mental not physical. :D As you gain experience you'll start worrying less to the point where a visit to Geylang is just like going for a cup of coffee. :)

I understand, thank you so much brother. Do you know how easy it is to get the common STDs if I practice BBBJ?

Also, apart from geylang (which I heard is actually a lot safer than freelancers), do you have any other recommendations for other commercial sex that is good and relatively safer?

P.S. Tysm for setting up this forum where people can share and ask questions!

[sammyboyfor]

I understand, thank you so much brother. Do you know how easy it is to get the common STDs if I practice BBBJ?

Also, apart from geylang (which I heard is actually a lot safer than freelancers), do you have any other recommendations for other commercial sex that is good and relatively safer?

P.S. Tysm for setting up this forum where people can share and ask questions!

The risks associated with unprotected oral sex are discussed in this thread. https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=201333

[worried3]

The risks associated with unprotected oral sex are discussed in this thread. https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=201333

Oh god I caved and did it again.... That few minutes of epic pleasure is totally not worth the loss of my peace of mind... What happens if I spread to other partners? What if I get an incurable disease? It seemed so harmless but the more I read the scarier it gets... I wish there was a thread to sort of trace people who've gotten STIs and the places they visited... or the likelihood of getting certain diseases from BBBJ.

In the heat of the moment I wanted it and I also didn't know how to request for CBJ without killing the mood.

But then I recall the encounter and it was so good, it's whatever I imagined in the past fucking a hot girl... How can something so sweet be so harmful...

[worried3]

The worst part is at the end she said she thinks she ate something wrong and her gut feels discomfort since the previous day... Isn't that a symptom of gonorrhea :"(

[supershaft]

to be extra safe... best if

no french
no bbbj
no cunninglingus
try to pee straight after sex
no sucking on the nipples

[sammyboyfor]

Oh god I caved and did it again.... That few minutes of epic pleasure is totally not worth the loss of my peace of mind... What happens if I spread to other partners? What if I get an incurable disease? It seemed so harmless but the more I read the scarier it gets... I wish there was a thread to sort of trace people who've gotten STIs and the places they visited... or the likelihood of getting certain diseases from BBBJ.

In the heat of the moment I wanted it and I also didn't know how to request for CBJ without killing the mood.

But then I recall the encounter and it was so good, it's whatever I imagined in the past fucking a hot girl... How can something so sweet be so harmful...

We all started off the same way full of anxiety and regret. As the months and years go by the anxiety fades away leaving only good aspects of great sex. :D

[sammyboyfor]

The worst part is at the end she said she thinks she ate something wrong and her gut feels discomfort since the previous day... Isn't that a symptom of gonorrhea :"(

As long as you are sexually active you're invariably going to catch something but most of them are no big deal.

Top of the list is HPV. Pretty much everyone who has been in a sexual relationship will have caught the virus. However you can mitigate the risk because there is a vaccine available which protects against the strains of the virus most likely to cause issues. Check with your doctor.

Other very common infections are Herpes type 1 and 2 but the vast majority of those who harbor the virus have never had any symptoms and life goes on. My partner has Herpes. She gets outbreaks on her lips once or twice a year. I have never had any symptoms in my life and it has never interfered with our relationship.

You're overthinking the whole issue. The stress you're putting yourself through can be even more harmful than any virus. Just relax and enjoy the most primeval form of entertainment that the creator conjured up for us. In the old days that was all that was available once the sun had set. :p

[worried3]

As long as you are sexually active you're invariably going to catch something but most of them are no big deal.

Top of the list is HPV. Pretty much everyone who has been in a sexual relationship will have caught the virus. However you can mitigate the risk because there is a vaccine available which protects against the strains of the virus most likely to cause issues. Check with your doctor.

Other very common infections are Herpes type 1 and 2 but the vast majority of those who harbor the virus have never had any symptoms and life goes on. My partner has Herpes. She gets outbreaks on her lips once or twice a year. I have never had any symptoms in my life and it has never interfered with our relationship.

You're overthinking the whole issue. The stress you're putting yourself through can be even more harmful than any virus. Just relax and enjoy the most primeval form of entertainment that the creator conjured up for us. In the old days that was all that was available once the sun had set. :p

Thanks for sharing. Do you still pay for sex with other women after being committed with your partner? How is she okay with that and how did you approach the conversation?

Also do you remember your first STD? How many encounters did you have prior to getting it and how did you and your partner react to it? You sound like you've had a lot of interesting experiences, would love to hear about it if you're okay with sharing :D

[sammyboyfor]

Thanks for sharing. Do you still pay for sex with other women after being committed with your partner? How is she okay with that and how did you approach the conversation?

Also do you remember your first STD? How many encounters did you have prior to getting it and how did you and your partner react to it? You sound like you've had a lot of interesting experiences, would love to hear about it if you're okay with sharing :D

I may have had HPV and could be infected with HSV1 but since I've never had any symptoms and never tested positive for an STD there is nothing to
remember.

60% of the world's population has the Herpes virus so chances of NOT being infected is less than half.

https://www.who.int/news/item/01-05-2020-massive-proportion-world-population-living-with-herpes-infection

I have not paid for sex since I've been in a relationship. ;)

[Bbtt332023]

Thanks for sharing. Do you still pay for sex with other women after being committed with your partner? How is she okay with that and how did you approach the conversation?

Also do you remember your first STD? How many encounters did you have prior to getting it and how did you and your partner react to it? You sound like you've had a lot of interesting experiences, would love to hear about it if you're okay with sharing :D

Well, he did say his partner has herpes and he have never gotten any symptoms, so can eliminate herpes from his answer. I doubt he has any symptoms from HPV either, it's usually nothing in males (not always, but usually). If you have a partner, try to persuade her to get the vaccine surreptitiously. Can just suggest, it's nothing suspicious as the HPV vaccine is quite common.

That leaves Chlamydia and gonnorhea I guess. These two are treatable and not really permanent. This is usually an issue for those hiding their cheonging life from their partners. Otherwise, if your single and have it, just see doctor, get antibiotics, and stay away from services until you recover. I'm guessing he didn't mention this as your concerns are mostly the incurable ones.

[sammyboyfor]

Massive proportion of world’s population are living with herpes infection

1 May 2020 Departmental news

Reading time: 4 min (1043 words)

Virus causing genital herpes may put millions of people at greater risk of infection with HIV

About half a billion people worldwide are living with genital herpes, and several billion have an oral herpes infection, new estimates show.

Authored by staff at the University of Bristol, World Health Organization (WHO), and Weill Cornell Medical College-Qatar, and published in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization, the new study estimates the global infection prevalence and incidence of herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2 (HSV-1 and HSV-2) in 2016.

“Herpes infection affects millions of people across the globe and can have far-reaching health effects. We need more investment and commitment to develop better treatment and prevention tools for this infection.” says Dr Sami Gottlieb, Medical Officer at WHO and an author of the study.
Prevalence and incidence

An estimated 491.5 million people were living with HSV-2 infection in 2016, equivalent to 13.2% of the world’s population aged 15 to 49 years. HSV-2 is almost exclusively sexually transmitted, causing infection in the genital or anal area (genital herpes).

An estimated 3.7 billion people had HSV-1 infection during the same year – around 66.6% of the world’s population aged 0 to 49. HSV-1 is mainly transmitted by oral to oral contact to cause infection in or around the mouth (oral herpes). However, HSV-1 can also be transmitted to the genital area through oral-genital contact – during oral sex – to cause genital herpes. Most HSV-1 infections were oral; however, between 122 million to 192 million people were estimated to have genital HSV-1 infection, depending on the assumptions used in the estimation model.

Because herpes is a lifelong infection, estimated prevalence increased with age; HSV-2 prevalence was also higher among women and in the WHO African Region.
Health and social impacts

Most people living with herpes, caused by either HSV-1 or 2, are unaware they have the infection.

When symptoms do occur however, oral herpes infection can lead to painful sores around the mouth (“cold sores”). Genital herpes infection can cause recurring, often painful, genital sores, often referred to as genital ulcer disease.

WHO and partners published a study in March 2020 estimating that around 5% of the world’s population (187 million people) suffered from at least one episode of herpes-related genital ulcer disease in 2016 (1). Most of these episodes were due to HSV-2, which can recur frequently over many years.

Recurrent symptoms of genital herpes can lead to stigma and psychological distress, and can have an important impact on quality of life and sexual relationships. However, in time, most people with herpes adjust to living with the infection.

“Genital herpes is a substantial health concern worldwide – beyond the potential pain and discomfort suffered by people living with the infection, the associated social consequences can have a profound effect on sexual and reproductive health” says Dr Ian Askew, Director of the Department of Sexual and Reproductive Health and Research at WHO.
Herpes and HIV

A strong association exists between HSV-2 infection and HIV infection. In 2019, WHO commissioned a modeling study to estimate how much HSV-2 infection might contribute to HIV incidence. The study estimated that almost 30% of new sexually acquired HIV infections in 2016 worldwide were likely attributable to HSV-2 infection (2).

Evidence shows that people with HSV-2 infection are at least three times more likely to become infected with HIV, if exposed. HSV-2 leads to inflammation and small breaks in the genital and anal skin that can make it easier for HIV to cause infection. In addition, people with both HIV and HSV-2 infection are more likely to spread HIV to others.

Women have higher biologic susceptibility to both HSV-2 and HIV. Women living in the WHO Africa Region have the highest HSV-2 prevalence and exposure to HIV – putting them at greatest risk of HIV infection, with negative implications for their health and well-being.

For people living with HIV (or who are living with other conditions that compromise their immune systems) as well as HSV-2, the symptoms of herpes can be more severe and more frequent.
Neonatal herpes

Neonatal herpes can occur when an infant is exposed to HSV in the genital tract during delivery. This is a rare condition, occurring in an estimated 10 out of every 100,000 births globally, but can lead to lasting neurologic disability or death. The risk for neonatal herpes is greatest when a mother acquires HSV infection for the first time in late pregnancy. Women who have genital herpes before they become pregnant are at very low risk of transmitting HSV to their infants.
No cure – better treatment and prevention needed

There is no cure for herpes. At present, antiviral medications, such as acyclovir, famciclovir, and valacyclovir, can help to reduce the severity and frequency of symptoms but cannot cure the infection.

As well as increasing awareness about HSV infection and its symptoms, improved access to antiviral medications and heightened HIV prevention efforts for those with genital HSV symptoms are needed globally.

In addition, development of better treatment and prevention interventions is needed, particularly HSV vaccines. WHO and partners are working to accelerate research to develop new strategies for prevention and control of HSV infections. Such research includes the development of HSV vaccines and topical microbicides. Several candidate vaccines and microbicides are currently being studied.

“A vaccine against HSV infection would not only help to promote and protect the health and well-being of millions of people, particularly women, worldwide – it could also potentially have an impact on slowing the spread of HIV, if developed and provided alongside other HIV prevention strategies” says Dr Meg Doherty, Director of the WHO Department of Global HIV, Hepatitis, and STI Programmes.

[airman]

to be extra safe... best if

no french
no bbbj
no cunninglingus
try to pee straight after sex
no sucking on the nipples

How come sucking on the nipples will have STDs?

[supershaft]

How come sucking on the nipples will have STDs?

eradicate possibility of lactating tits juz in case.. haaa... fool proof way to prevent the risk.:D:D:D

[Autumnsun]

How come sucking on the nipples will have STDs?

In theory, an STI can be transmitted during any of the following sex/ non-sexual acts:
- kissing
- oral-nipple stimulation
- oral sex, including giving head and rimming
intercourse, including anal and vaginal intercourse
- hand sex, including anal fingering, vaginal fingering, vulva stimulation, and hand jobs
- any play involving menstrual blood, blood from another part of the body, or lactation
- breastfeeding or chestfeeding

What we don't know or not studied is the odds of transmission/infection for each activity type. Other factors which as cut or open wound contribute to exposure/risk

May odds be always be in our favour!!

[chickenlittley]

In theory, an STI can be transmitted during any of the following sex/ non-sexual acts:
- kissing
- oral-nipple stimulation
- oral sex, including giving head and rimming
intercourse, including anal and vaginal intercourse
- hand sex, including anal fingering, vaginal fingering, vulva stimulation, and hand jobs
- any play involving menstrual blood, blood from another part of the body, or lactation
- breastfeeding or chestfeeding

What we don't know or not studied is the odds of transmission/infection for each activity type. Other factors which as cut or open wound contribute to exposure/risk

May odds be always be in our favour!!

if come out play.. sure got risk.. so play safe is best..

[zip4671]

In theory, an STI can be transmitted during any of the following sex/ non-sexual acts:
- kissing
- oral-nipple stimulation
- oral sex, including giving head and rimming
intercourse, including anal and vaginal intercourse
- hand sex, including anal fingering, vaginal fingering, vulva stimulation, and hand jobs
- any play involving menstrual blood, blood from another part of the body, or lactation
- breastfeeding or chestfeeding

What we don't know or not studied is the odds of transmission/infection for each activity type. Other factors which as cut or open wound contribute to exposure/risk

May odds be always be in our favour!!

Wow, bro, on the sbf nick showing that you have just registered yr "NICK Autumnsun"

But the delination of yr different types of STI + STD transmission / infection speaks volumes of yr huge experience.

Hope you could share more. Anyway I have upped you mr points since you had upped me earlier.

[Autumnsun]

Wow, bro, on the sbf nick showing that you have just registered.
But the delination of yr different types of STI + STD transmission / infection speaks volumes of yr huge experience.

Hope you could share more. Anyway I have upped you mr points since you had upped me earlier.

I'm not a doctor or nurse, my expertise is medical microbiology. Just trying to help as much as I can. Chiong safe and be responsible.

Odds of transmission via various route is low and uncertain. There ain't enough studies/research to prove it.

Like ppl know the odds of winning 4D/TOTO big prizes is low, but they still buy thinking that they could be the lucky one. On the other hand, there are ppl are take unnecessary risk thinking that they can't be that unlucky. It's fine to chiong, but do take precautions.

May the odds be ever be in your favor :D

[zip4671]

I'm not a doctor or nurse, my expertise is medical microbiology. Just trying to help as much as I can. Chiong safe and be responsible.

Odds of transmission via various route is low and uncertain. There ain't enough studies/research to prove it.

Like ppl know the odds of winning 4D/TOTO big prizes is low, but they still buy thinking that they could be the lucky one. On the other hand, there are ppl are take unnecessary risk thinking that they can't be that unlucky. It's fine to chiong, but do take precautions.

May the odds be ever be in your favor :D

Bro, TQ for fast response as an expert in microbiology is a "par excellence" with any medical doctor - really a brainy guy - I salute you.

Like yr idiomatic phrase "May the odds be ever be in your favor"

Sometimes, I wonder why the powers-to-be don't understand that every men or now even women need sex [even brainy, simple, powerful, weak, etc guys, simple guys, etc] but closed down so many joints as long as underaged population are heavily barred from indulging till they reached the right age to do so ... ??

[HotPossibly]

cheong comfirm have risks one

[Autumnsun]

Sometimes, I wonder why the powers-to-be don't understand that every men or now even women need sex [even brainy, simple, powerful, weak, etc guys, simple guys, etc] but closed down so many joints as long as underaged population are heavily barred from indulging till they reached the right age to do so ... ??

Thanks pal. Licensing, controlling the business & 'protecting' the people

Licensing: govt also need to earn. right license for right work.

control and protection the people: GL is e 'correct' place for FJ. WL are scheduled to test regularly, this prevent outbreaks and disease management going out of control. ML dont get tested for STI except for HIV and a few other diseases, & it is done only when renewing work permit (correct me if i'm wrong). If a infected customer passed e disease to 1 ML, that ML will pass to how many men, & these men go spread to other ML. Things basically spiral out of control with this vicious cycle. To things worst, the infected may be asymptomatic or symptoms and signs will take years to show up for viral blood diseases . This also why MOH has a guideline for lab/doctor to report if anyone is tested positive for a huge list of infectious diseases.

[zip4671]

Thanks pal. Licensing, controlling the business & 'protecting' the people

Licensing: govt also need to earn. right license for right work.

control and protection the people: GL is e 'correct' place for FJ. WL are scheduled to test regularly, this prevent outbreaks and disease management going out of control. ML dont get tested for STI except for HIV and a few other diseases, & it is done only when renewing work permit (correct me if i'm wrong). If a infected customer passed e disease to 1 ML, that ML will pass to how many men, & these men go spread to other ML. Things basically spiral out of control with this vicious cycle. To things worst, the infected may be asymptomatic or symptoms and signs will take years to show up for viral blood diseases . This also why MOH has a guideline for lab/doctor to report if anyone is tested positive for a huge list of infectious diseases.

Thank you for widening the scope of the discussion - only thing where do we post - in which thread, without it being deleted - as a microbiologist is not easy to engage in, in private parctice - not every one has such deep expertise & yet hv the freedom to experience the chionging life ...!! haha!!

[hp2k]

In theory, an STI can be transmitted during any of the following sex/ non-sexual acts:
- kissing
- oral-nipple stimulation
- oral sex, including giving head and rimming
intercourse, including anal and vaginal intercourse
- hand sex, including anal fingering, vaginal fingering, vulva stimulation, and hand jobs
- any play involving menstrual blood, blood from another part of the body, or lactation
- breastfeeding or chestfeeding

What we don't know or not studied is the odds of transmission/infection for each activity type. Other factors which as cut or open wound contribute to exposure/risk

May odds be always be in our favour!!

Other then getting frequently tested and wearing condom for FJ and BJ. Are there anythings we can do to protect ourselves?

[lonelyfish]

Other then getting frequently tested and wearing condom for FJ and BJ. Are there anythings we can do to protect ourselves?

The only way is NOT to go lol. Just stop worrying and relax, protect yourself from HIV and circumcise or take vax for the others if you need them. There are a lot of other things than just STI when you get in contact with the girls.

Catch covid and other common illness from the girls, countless times of sore throat from DFKing the girls, UTI from BBBJ, teeth causing injury during BJ etc lol. Almost all the BJ I had were unprotected. I had my fair share of catching them, but so far nothing yet from the STD list and rawing the girls even when chionging overseas.

[Bbtt332023]

Other then getting frequently tested and wearing condom for FJ and BJ. Are there anythings we can do to protect ourselves?

Frequent testing technically doesn't protect you. It protects others in the scene more, provided you stop when infected with something. Another thing testing does is can alert u to get treated before it turns into something more serious.

[Autumnsun]

zip4671 I'm far from being a microbiologist ( one need to be a doctor who specialised in microbiology to be addressed as so). Microbiology is part of my work

hp2k yeah. Looks that u got good answers from the 2 bros. Just to add on, no french or painting them down there. Really just f and go.

Years back, I did encounter someone in his early 30s who went to GL; he went raw with golden shower. Weeks later he was hospitalised for penile discharge and conjunctivitis. NG was isolated from his gential swab and eye culture. Soon he was tested positive for Chlamydia. I didn't follow up on his case thereafter, hopefully his tests for the 3 bloodborne viruses were ok.

[zip4671]

zip4671 I'm far from being a microbiologist ( one need to be a doctor who specialised in microbiology to be addressed as so). Microbiology is part of my work

hp2k yeah. Looks that u got good answers from the 2 bros. Just to add on, no french or painting them down there. Really just f and go.

Years back, I did encounter someone in his early 30s who went to GL; he went raw with golden shower. Weeks later he was hospitalised for penile discharge and conjunctivitis. NG was isolated from his gential swab and eye culture. Soon he was tested positive for Chlamydia. I didn't follow up on his case thereafter, hopefully his tests for the 3 bloodborne viruses were ok.

Bro, thanks for the conscientious updates.

It's really scary to be hospitalised. I believed tt he must hv developed high fever & must hv visible symptoms.

How to expalin to his OC/gf or FWB or regular partner as well as employer?

[zip4671]

The only way is NOT to go lol. Just stop worrying and relax, protect yourself from HIV and circumcise or take vax for the others if you need them. There are a lot of other things than just STI when you get in contact with the girls.

Catch covid and other common illness from the girls, countless times of sore throat from DFKing the girls, UTI from BBBJ, teeth causing injury during BJ etc lol. Almost all the BJ I had were unprotected. I had my fair share of catching them, but so far nothing yet from the STD list and rawing the girls even when chionging overseas.

Wondering if the bro is servinf NSF, will he be charged for unnecessary endangering his health, etc etc... Only now does DSC don't treat you as like them so stringently.

[lonelyfish]

Bro, thanks for the conscientious updates.

It's really scary to be hospitalised. I believed tt he must hv developed high fever & must hv visible symptoms.

How to expalin to his OC/gf or FWB or regular partner as well as employer?

Explain? Spouse / GF maybe. But what's there to explain to these people "FWB or regular partner as well as employer"? FWB or regular partners may have other partners as well, and employer has nothing to do with personal life.

[lonelyfish]

Wondering if the bro is servinf NSF, will he be charged for unnecessary endangering his health, etc etc... Only now does DSC don't treat you as like them so stringently.

I don't think you can get charged for catching STI or any illness during your personal time while being an NSF. You can just report sick and AttB / MC all the way even if hospitalised. You be amazed with all the kinds of funny illness reported but none of these gets charged.

I heard of some NSF/NS-men got STI during overseas exercises, didn't get charged for catching STDs but because of sneaking out of camp when not allowed to.

[zip4671]

I don't think you can get charged for catching STI or any illness during your personal time while being an NSF. You can just report sick and AttB / MC all the way even if hospitalised. You be amazed with all the kinds of funny illness reported but none of these gets charged.

I heard of some NSF/NS-men got STI during overseas exercises, didn't get charged for catching STDs but because of sneaking out of camp when not allowed to.

Senior bro, you are very ex[erience & thanks for the update.

Surprised tt NSF got the money to enjoy their overseas stint R+R.

My time in the mid-70s only S$90/mth not enuf to support parents even ... !!

[lonelyfish]

Senior bro, you are very ex[erience & thanks for the update.

Surprised tt NSF got the money to enjoy their overseas stint R+R.

My time in the mid-70s only S$90/mth not enuf to support parents even ... !!

I'm not experienced, just trying around as I travel. It's risky, condoms are sometimes not used / available, but fun. The risk factor is sometimes the fun part, if you worry too much, the fun goes away. There's a reason why some people want to keep taking risks. My time is in the 2000s, and you be surprised about the cost / "do you even need to pay" sometimes when overseas.

[zip4671]

I don't think you can get charged for catching STI or any illness during your personal time while being an NSF. You can just report sick and AttB / MC all the way even if hospitalised. You be amazed with all the kinds of funny illness reported but none of these gets charged.

I heard of some NSF/NS-men got STI during overseas exercises, didn't get charged for catching STDs but because of sneaking out of camp when not allowed to.

Thank you for the reponse. Saw one of yr statement "My favourites in GL after 2022: 1669 Momo, 1820 XiaoXue."

Does the numbers refer to the House Nos & Lorongs? Are both PRC or Viet?

[zip4671]

Explain? Spouse / GF maybe. But what's there to explain to these people "FWB or regular partner as well as employer"? FWB or regular partners may have other partners as well, and employer has nothing to do with personal life.

TQ for yr experienced words.

[lonelyfish]

Thank you for the reponse. Saw one of yr statement "My favourites in GL after 2022: 1669 Momo, 1820 XiaoXue."

Does the numbers refer to the House Nos & Lorongs? Are both PRC or Viet?

Yes, and both are PRC. The WL at 1669 has RTC.

TQ for yr experienced words.

I apply these rules to anyone who are not related to me (and even some family members). If you want to head out to enjoy this "hobby", you should also ignore society views.

[91nova]

Yesterday I went to Geylang for the first time and had my first commercial sex experience with a PRC WL. We had sex with a condom but it also slipped off (we put another one back on). But I also received and gave unprotected oral sex.

While I enjoyed the experience and would want to go again, I'm so worried about the risk of catching something. Please, can someone give me advice on what I should do? I read online that unprotected BJs are very risky.

Please, no trolls. Would appreciate advice from people who frequent Geylang, and from anyone who's caught STDs before. Is there anything I can do now to reduce the risk of getting STDs? What are the chances of catching STDs from an encounter like mine?

If you keep worrying, best is the stay at home PCC don't cheong better.

[zip4671]

Yes, and both are PRC. The WL at 1669 has RTC.



I apply these rules to anyone who are not related to me (and even some family members). If you want to head out to enjoy this "hobby", you should also ignore society views.

TQ for the timely words - 2 Qs.

Q1 - who to replace 1669 Momo? as she RTC.

Q2 - TQ as this hobby is real expensive - for 6 months visit if 2x a week could cross S$20K ... If become senior citizen, it's a neccessary hobby to satisfy lonliness ... haha

[lonelyfish]

TQ for the timely words - 2 Qs.

Q1 - who to replace 1669 Momo? as she RTC.

Q2 - TQ as this hobby is real expensive - for 6 months visit if 2x a week could cross S$20K ... If become senior citizen, it's a neccessary hobby to satisfy lonliness ... haha

A1 - Haha, no 2 person are the same. Even if you picked Momo while she was here, you may not have the same experience as me.

A2 - It is not so expensive if you go for very short time and visit those Cat 50/60 houses. But If you keep going to Cat200 for full service and gfe, definitely expensive. I tend to avoid the Cat 50/60 houses, cuz I caught UTI and sore throat from these places more frequently, which is what this thread is all about. Probably easier to catch STIs as well, of course it is still a game of luck. If you chiong overseas, it is even more expensive in the given time and the STI risks may be higher. I've caught those sore throat countless of times from DFK with these girls lol.

Again, if you worry too much, better to just stay home and PCC.

[zip4671]

[QUOTE=lonelyfish;22402649]A1 - Haha, no 2 person are the same. Even if you picked Momo while she was here, you may not have the same experience as me.

A2 - It is not so expensive if you go for very short time and visit those Cat 50/60 houses. But If you keep going to Cat200 for full service and gfe, definitely expensive. I tend to avoid the Cat 50/60 houses, cuz I caught UTI and sore throat from these places more frequently, which is what this thread is all about. Probably easier to catch STIs as well, of course it is still a game of luck. If you chiong overseas, it is even more expensive in the given time and the STI risks may be higher. I've caught those sore throat countless of times from DFK with these girls lol.

Again, if you worry too much, better to just stay home and PCC.

Senior bro, TQ for the very deep & heartfelt sharing from yr very extensive experience.

You hv explain why I'm getting sore throat so often tt I hv to take 2 prescribed sessions of strong antibotics in one month. TQ for sharing, as I love DATY even at the time when I chiong where my rod could not get hard enuf to penetrate BUT surprising some girls could get me hard enuf to penetrate them while lazy one just told me I'm "useless"??

[HonkyTonkyMan]

I heard of some NSF/NS-men got STI during overseas exercises, didn't get charged for catching STDs but because of sneaking out of camp when not allowed to.
I remembered Starlight exercise we were issued condoms to use during R&R...:p

[zip4671]

A1 - Haha, no 2 person are the same. Even if you picked Momo while she was here, you may not have the same experience as me.

A2 - It is not so expensive if you go for very short time and visit those Cat 50/60 houses. But If you keep going to Cat200 for full service and gfe, definitely expensive. I tend to avoid the Cat 50/60 houses, cuz I caught UTI and sore throat from these places more frequently, which is what this thread is all about. Probably easier to catch STIs as well, of course it is still a game of luck. If you chiong overseas, it is even more expensive in the given time and the STI risks may be higher. I've caught those sore throat countless of times from DFK with these girls lol.

Again, if you worry too much, better to just stay home and PCC.

Bro, not everyone can PCC easily as they may need tactile stimulation & well as to overcome loneliness in the senior citizens.

This problem also is becoming real as witnessed by this article in a NUS study published in the Straits Times in May 2023 "Old and lonely after a successful career, and even when living with family".

[lonelyfish]

You hv explain why I'm getting sore throat so often tt I hv to take 2 prescribed sessions of strong antibotics in one month. TQ for sharing, as I love DATY even at the time when I chiong where my rod could not get hard enuf to penetrate BUT surprising some girls could get me hard enuf to penetrate them while lazy one just told me I'm "useless"??

I need frenching / DFK to maintain it hard. So I can't take girls who don't allow kissing. Frenching / DFK means chance to catch sore throat each time haha. I don't really like cunnilingus, but sometimes still did it anyways. Some girls pussy just looked too tasty, another chance to catch funny stuff haha.

Bro, not everyone can PCC easily as they may need tactile stimulation & well as to overcome loneliness in the senior citizens.

This problem also is becoming real as witnessed by this article in a NUS study published in the Straits Times in May 2023 "Old and lonely after a successful career, and even when living with family".

I prefer to visit the girls cuz I need the DFK, I can't do frenching when PCC.

[lonelyfish]

I remembered Starlight exercise we were issued condoms to use during R&R...:p

A lot of times, the condoms are NOT used. Then the men came back with funky stuff haha.

[HonkyTonkyMan]

A lot of times, the condoms are NOT used. Then the men came back with funky stuff haha.

If I recalled correctly, we had to go for blood test after coming back to check for STD and HIV, if detected I understand can be charged...

[chariotholder]

U already at geylang than why still thinking about these troubles myself. Don think too much bro

[galgal89]

Massive proportion of world’s population are living with herpes infection

1 May 2020 Departmental news

Reading time: 4 min (1043 words)

Virus causing genital herpes may put millions of people at greater risk of infection with HIV

About half a billion people worldwide are living with genital herpes, and several billion have an oral herpes infection, new estimates show.

Authored by staff at the University of Bristol, World Health Organization (WHO), and Weill Cornell Medical College-Qatar, and published in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization, the new study estimates the global infection prevalence and incidence of herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2 (HSV-1 and HSV-2) in 2016.

“Herpes infection affects millions of people across the globe and can have far-reaching health effects. We need more investment and commitment to develop better treatment and prevention tools for this infection.” says Dr Sami Gottlieb, Medical Officer at WHO and an author of the study.
Prevalence and incidence

An estimated 491.5 million people were living with HSV-2 infection in 2016, equivalent to 13.2% of the world’s population aged 15 to 49 years. HSV-2 is almost exclusively sexually transmitted, causing infection in the genital or anal area (genital herpes).

An estimated 3.7 billion people had HSV-1 infection during the same year – around 66.6% of the world’s population aged 0 to 49. HSV-1 is mainly transmitted by oral to oral contact to cause infection in or around the mouth (oral herpes). However, HSV-1 can also be transmitted to the genital area through oral-genital contact – during oral sex – to cause genital herpes. Most HSV-1 infections were oral; however, between 122 million to 192 million people were estimated to have genital HSV-1 infection, depending on the assumptions used in the estimation model.

Because herpes is a lifelong infection, estimated prevalence increased with age; HSV-2 prevalence was also higher among women and in the WHO African Region.
Health and social impacts

Most people living with herpes, caused by either HSV-1 or 2, are unaware they have the infection.

When symptoms do occur however, oral herpes infection can lead to painful sores around the mouth (“cold sores”). Genital herpes infection can cause recurring, often painful, genital sores, often referred to as genital ulcer disease.

WHO and partners published a study in March 2020 estimating that around 5% of the world’s population (187 million people) suffered from at least one episode of herpes-related genital ulcer disease in 2016 (1). Most of these episodes were due to HSV-2, which can recur frequently over many years.

Recurrent symptoms of genital herpes can lead to stigma and psychological distress, and can have an important impact on quality of life and sexual relationships. However, in time, most people with herpes adjust to living with the infection.

“Genital herpes is a substantial health concern worldwide – beyond the potential pain and discomfort suffered by people living with the infection, the associated social consequences can have a profound effect on sexual and reproductive health” says Dr Ian Askew, Director of the Department of Sexual and Reproductive Health and Research at WHO.
Herpes and HIV

A strong association exists between HSV-2 infection and HIV infection. In 2019, WHO commissioned a modeling study to estimate how much HSV-2 infection might contribute to HIV incidence. The study estimated that almost 30% of new sexually acquired HIV infections in 2016 worldwide were likely attributable to HSV-2 infection (2).

Evidence shows that people with HSV-2 infection are at least three times more likely to become infected with HIV, if exposed. HSV-2 leads to inflammation and small breaks in the genital and anal skin that can make it easier for HIV to cause infection. In addition, people with both HIV and HSV-2 infection are more likely to spread HIV to others.

Women have higher biologic susceptibility to both HSV-2 and HIV. Women living in the WHO Africa Region have the highest HSV-2 prevalence and exposure to HIV – putting them at greatest risk of HIV infection, with negative implications for their health and well-being.

For people living with HIV (or who are living with other conditions that compromise their immune systems) as well as HSV-2, the symptoms of herpes can be more severe and more frequent.
Neonatal herpes

Neonatal herpes can occur when an infant is exposed to HSV in the genital tract during delivery. This is a rare condition, occurring in an estimated 10 out of every 100,000 births globally, but can lead to lasting neurologic disability or death. The risk for neonatal herpes is greatest when a mother acquires HSV infection for the first time in late pregnancy. Women who have genital herpes before they become pregnant are at very low risk of transmitting HSV to their infants.
No cure – better treatment and prevention needed

There is no cure for herpes. At present, antiviral medications, such as acyclovir, famciclovir, and valacyclovir, can help to reduce the severity and frequency of symptoms but cannot cure the infection.

As well as increasing awareness about HSV infection and its symptoms, improved access to antiviral medications and heightened HIV prevention efforts for those with genital HSV symptoms are needed globally.

In addition, development of better treatment and prevention interventions is needed, particularly HSV vaccines. WHO and partners are working to accelerate research to develop new strategies for prevention and control of HSV infections. Such research includes the development of HSV vaccines and topical microbicides. Several candidate vaccines and microbicides are currently being studied.

“A vaccine against HSV infection would not only help to promote and protect the health and well-being of millions of people, particularly women, worldwide – it could also potentially have an impact on slowing the spread of HIV, if developed and provided alongside other HIV prevention strategies” says Dr Meg Doherty, Director of the WHO Department of Global HIV, Hepatitis, and STI Programmes.

Got it bro..