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mariosuper

29-12-2016, 02:11 AM

Reporting Live at BKK! hahaha
Last night in BKK, run out of money to cheong already, cannot sleep also. so contribute some report here. My friend is a fans of gogobar, so i mainly follow him around for the pass few day. Here is some report of gogobar in cowboy and nana, not sure how useful is it to you guys.

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******* Top 3 fav joint ********
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Fav gogo bar > Billboard (Nana Plaza)
The place is really havoc! Instead of a normal pole dancing stage, it has a carousel stage where there seem to be unlimited amount of girls, they come up and down very seamlessly. Sitting on the carousel bar counter is fun also, when the bar turn, every girl is trying to seduce you, very fun!

Opposite the carousal stage bar is a giant bathtub with 8-10 naked girls dancing, what a sight! But as usual naked girl are 4-5/10 in quality, but still a very nice sight to see. Billboard might not have the most attractive girls, but they win in concept!
Overall girl quality, 6-7/10
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2nd fav bar > Rainbow 5 (Nana Plaza)
This bar probably have the best mix quality of girls. 2 set of dancer, one goes naked. My only issue with this joint is always can’t get a good stage facing seats as it is always crowded. Also almost 70% of the attractive girls here have boobs job which is quite a turn off for me. But have a good quantity of 7-8/10 girls here.

Overall girl quality, 7-8/10
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3rd Place > Baccara (Cowboy)
My friend’s fav joint. We are here almost every day, we either start or end our nights here. The quality of the girls here is probably the best out of the joints we visit in cowboy (except those coyote in arab joint). But problem is all the pretty girls will be taken out VERY FAST, probably before 9pm all the 7-8/10 girls will be gone. The girls here is very aggressive, as in the conversation will usually goes like this

“you buy me drinks?”
“What is your name?”
“Where you come from?”
“You wanna go hotel?”

Yea they are very direct which can be a turn off to me, the attractive girls are not keen to play the fishing games with you. And I had seen those super attractive girls being barfine 3-4 times a night, so they are not keen in going LT with you early in the nights also.

But overall Baccara this is still a nice bar to chill out the nights. It is worth investing in tipping a waitress to ensure you have a good seats if you are planning to use this as a base like us. Your 1 LD for the waitress goes a long way. Sometime we just spend on our drinks (180b) to chill for 1 hours and left, some day we spend the whole night there buying LD for random lady for rabba rabba. 2nd and 3rd floor have naked lady dancing also. Baccara also have the most expensive LD at 200b. the ST (3k) and LT (6k) rate is not for nego also.

Overall girl quality, 7-8/10. Handful of 9 who is super popular.
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******* Worthy mention ********
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Crazy house (Cowboy)
This joint is not on the main street of soi cowboy, it is at the end of the street where you have to turn right, along the small road. Had to pay 100b entry fees to go in. Full naked joint. But quality not there. Got into a lift with naked girls also, got seduce inside which is pretty fun, haha. Overall a very rowdy joint, customer is mostly farang.

Overall girl quality, 5-6/10. Handful of 7
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Shark (Cowboy)
Most of the girls have translucent bra, girls seem to be older in this bar, target audience seem to be more toward farang. Although the girls are older, they is some looker also, milf lover can check this joint out.

Overall girl quality, 6-7/10
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Lighthouse (Cowboy)
Have a handful of syt here, most can speak Chinese, dunno why. Saw a really pretty girl here, but keep going back to a group of Korean customer there, so no chance to talk to her. Becareful of the pushy waitress who keep asking for LD from us. End of the day she padded our bill with 1 extra LD which we found out and highlight to her, but she teh her way out of it. Oh well.
Overall girl quality, 6-7/10
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Dundee (Cowboy)
This is a really small joint, at 1 point we are the only customer and gets all the attention. The only joint with coyote that we visited. The coyote girls is really pretty, but barfine itself cost 3000b which is really crazy.

Overall girl quality, 6-7/10
Coyote 8-9/10
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******* Not recommend ********
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Suzy Wong (Cowboy)
Our encounter with this joint isn’t too pleasant, but can be a hit or miss thingy. the night we visited is really empty, 4-5 grp of customer only, so the mamsan came and sit with us to grumble about poor business, and end up getting 1xLD from us, which normally is ok, we don’t mind tipping the services staff sometime. But after the 1st round of LD, she keep pushing girls to sit with us, and once they sit down, LD follows. Overall very pushy feeling which I don’t like.

Suzy Wong have performance (body paint and sex show) at 9pm or 10pm I think, worth a watch. My recommendation is just go for the performance and leave. This is a full naked joint also, but quality wise not as good a crazy house.

Overall girl quality, 4-5/10
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******* Avoid *************
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Kiss, Sahara, Spice Girls, Deja Vu, Midnight and Rio (Cowboy)
These are the so called Arab joint. They usually have very very pretty coyote outside the joint to attract customer. We didn’t visited any of these joint, as my friend had very bad experience the last time he visited Kiss, heavy bill padding and the cute coyote is can see cannot touch type also. So really no point.

Anymore input of these joint is welcome also.

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******* QUESTION *********
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QUESTION: is titlac and dollhouse arab joint also? i very keen to visit but my friend stop me.

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******* Quick Tips *********
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Lastly here are some of my personal humble tips for gogo bar >>
- Avoid going on Sunday and Monday, most of the better looking (better earning) girls will take a break.
- even if you want to go for LT, nego for ST with the option to extend to LT
- If you like a attractive girls in Baccara just barfine, don’t wait! If you wait it will be gone! I make a mistake of rejecting one 9/10 girl, I cannot get her in the next few nights also. Ouch.
- always check your bills, clear them on and off when it hit a few thousand baht, to allow easy keep track and avoid bill padding. Most of the joint I visited is honest, but one can never be too safe.

Costing at a glance
Customer drink is between 140-180b
Lady Drinks (LD) is between 140-200b
Barfine between 500-700b
ST 2500-3000b (nego)
LT 5000-6000b (nego)

p/s: up my point is you find this post useful :)

TonyCheong2

29-12-2016, 02:31 AM

Oh I was ex BSI banker. That's a first...

I also ex banker.

Orpit boy in bank 5555! :p

vbkk

29-12-2016, 03:34 AM

naemlo

29-12-2016, 03:36 AM

I also ex banker.

Orpit boy in bank 5555! :p

I washed toilet... :eek:

zwli84

29-12-2016, 08:26 AM

Is scratch dog still operating ?

rahkshi007

29-12-2016, 09:06 AM

Here is my FR for christmas trip:

Day1:
Met the girl i knew from social site. The real person look older than in photo. Only manage to DFK, nothing more. Later on Barfined a girl from Bacarra, she got the typical Hi-So look that we found in luxury shopping mall or FB. She said she has BF in Taiwan, so i no futher request Line.

Day 2:
Afternoon after some shopping, decided head to massage.
Alaina - Less than 10 girls, no pretty girl spotted
Lord - Admit that it has the best looking girls, saw one with thai model look, but the price is very high and she looks like over 30+.
ocean - less than 10 girls, no pretty girl.
emannue - Girl quality similar to Lord. there is few not bad looking.
Hi Class - less than 10 girls, the price quoted to me was between 1700baht to 2000baht. saw 2 girls are quite pretty. Picked one that has big boob but older. papasan called Mr.Wang is very helpful. Headed to room and the girl put a lot efford on massage but lack of pressure. Headed to the bed and it was amazing, good ball licked and she knew how to control her vagina muscle , i can feel it squeeze my didi.
Night time headed to nana plaza, headed almost all bar and it was a disappointment. I almost pulled by rude ladyboy into the bar. Overall Rainbow 2 & 5 have the best looking girl but all of them look old and tired. Headed to thermae and picked one young and pretty girl, abit chubby for bar girl standard, but still has the curve. Very talkative and just standard SOP.

Here is the further explore in KL, my first time chiong in KL:

Day 3:
Headed to beach club, saw alot Vietnamese and eastern europe hookers and they are fat and old. This club has alot foreign customer. Picked one Vietnamese which i feel best among all, good bbbj and ball licking, then just standard SOP.

Day 4:
Some shopping in KL. Night time headed to Thai Club & Bristo. Unlike beach club, inside is full of Vietnamese girl and chinese customer. A Vietnamese (girl1) headed to me and asked if she can join me for a drink and i obliged. A while later i saw one very chio girl (girl2) (big eye, sharp nose, fair skin , slim with big natural boob) passed by me. I Invited her to join me for drink but she ignored. Girl1 seems not happy with it but who cares, i am the one who pay for it ! haha. Later i saw her again and invited her again and she come over. While girl2 went for toilet, girl1 told me some of the bad stuff of girl2. Later me and girl2 were quite drunk, girl1 only drink coke and sweet cocktail. Girl1 asked for tips and wanted to leave, so i obliged. A while later i saw her drink with one ah mo. Girl2 and I headed to my room. it was full of GFE and real mourning , i can feel her pxxsy is so wet without lubricant. Keep asking me to hug her with non stop DFK. she also not rush me to pay her.In between i followed her back to her condo to take some stuff, damn, it was prettier than my hotel.. She stayed till next morning and we had another round. She told me she did not come over my table when i invited her because she knew girl1 was not happy.. she also knew girl1 will talk bad about her - girls problem haha..

The End

[/QUOTE] nice review, need to know more [/QUOTE]

Alright here is some of the bonus story which might be boring.

Day 1:
Actually arrived BKK I straight went to Hospital to review my eyelid surgery that did it last month and laser off a black moles on my face. The laser surgeon is a lady doctor around early 30's. Damn, she was so hot and beautiful with a very friendly attitude.She wore hermes gold ear ring. I think i fell in love :p. The beauty definitely up to level for TV commercial. Back to the bacarra story, before I barfined the lady mentioned above, I did a small chat with the waitress, later on she asked me buy her a drink, I did tell her that i will direct tips her instead giving drink but she said she cant accept the tips, it will be absorbed by the bar. it is christmas night, so I happily agree to get her just 1 drink. To my surprice, in return she give me taquilla shots for free. I never knew they have the power to get free drink for customer.

Day 4:
Continue story girl2, Before She follow me back to my room. She asked me want ST or LT, I opted for ST because I have a flight to catch in next morning and also i show her my wallet does not have the money for LT (the LT price she quoted is 2X of ST). So she agreed with ST But eventually she stayed with me overnight. So this in my lesson learned, never opt for LT, because I have a lot bad experience with LT. first is they give excuses and wanted to leave or their attitude suddenly changes 360 and make you kick her out of your room. As mentioned above, I did another round with girl2 in the morning, actually she does not want another round & keep cover her pxxsy with her hand. So here is my steps, after brushed teeth avoid bad breath in the morning, proceed DFK with her, then suck her big boobs to make her starting to feel horny, then her hand slowly not so strong to cover her pxxsy and I proceed my further attack, start to fingering + DFK to make her even more horny, then now she will totally disarmed and want you to fxxk her. We fxxk from bed till to sofa and she mourned really loud, i abit afraid next door will heard... lol

vbkk

29-12-2016, 09:38 AM

Alright here is some of the bonus story which might be boring.

Day 1:
Actually arrived BKK I straight went to Hospital to review my eyelid surgery (did 1 months ago) and laser off a black moles on my eyelid. The laser surgeon is a lady doctor around early 30's. Damn, she was so hot and beautiful with a very friendly attitude. I think i fell in love :p. The beauty definitely up to level for TV commercial. Back to the bacarra story, before I barfined the lady mentioned above, I did a small chat with the waitress, she asked me buy her a drink, I did tell her that i will direct tips her instead giving drink but she said she cant accept the tips, it will be absorbed by the bar. it is christmas night, so I happily agree to get her just 1 drink. To my surprice, in return she give me few taquilla shots for free. I never knew they have the power to get free drink for customer.

Waitresses everywhere are allowed personal tips. Just do remember if u are going to tip her, pass the money directly to her. Do not leave the remaining balance of your change after checking bin on the tray as it will go to " general tips" meaning it will be collected and shared equally among all the existing waiteress for the bar after the whole day's work. Only tips handed directly to the waitress, is allowed to be kept by her individually. If she's caught pocketing the tips on the tray, high chances u will not see her again in the same bar tomorrow. ;):p

Also my advice to most here, comm/incentive of a lady drink for most bars would be ard 60฿ per lady drink for waiteress as well as coyotes/agogo. Unlike coyotes who need to make a certain number of LDs daily to earn their wages, waiteress dun need to. So instead of paying 200฿ Lady drink to a waitress which she will only get 60฿ out of it, u can hand out a 100฿ to her instead. 1/2 the price of a LD, and she gets more. Well, not unless u intend to make the waitress drunk or prefers to hand out LDs, this would be a better method for both the waitress and yourself. ;)

mariosuper

29-12-2016, 10:14 AM

1) Need not pay 100B to enter Crazyhouse Bar. Doormen out to swindle u.
2) There's level 2 coyote(younger) girls at Shark bar. Besides the usual older ones.;)
3) Lighthouse nowadays has alot of problems. So go at your own risk.
4) Arab bars girls can ride/fondle/rubba inside the bar. Just be firm and keep tab of the bills. Lol
5) Tilac and dollhouse are not arab owned joints. :)
6) There are LDs priced higher than 200B other than baccara :D

thanks bro for your input!
shark level 2 like cannot go, the mamasan mention something like "fire". not sure is it because of slow night she wanna smoke us stay downstairs.

mariosuper

29-12-2016, 10:35 AM

vbkk

29-12-2016, 01:09 PM

*edited*
the restaurant is like 20m away when you walk along crazy house. very small shop front, with a small walk way to the back to a dark hall area. come to think of it, there is food price on the menu but no drink price. i believe there is more scam restaurant like this, so if your girl is bringing u for supper, always check the pricing before ordering!

cheong safe bro!

I believe many bros here had also been to this restaurant before. I myself had brought many fellow friends with their LT girls from cowboy to have meals there. So far, never did that experience that. Also never heard of stories like this. Perhaps some other bros can verify/testify as well. ;):confused:

naemlo

29-12-2016, 01:11 PM

KNN RESTAURANT ALSO HAVE LADY DRINKS :mad:

Every day I learn something..... Thais will squeeze till the last drop of brain juice to earn tourists money. Restaurant charges LD, this is day light robbery. :D U should take photos of the restaurant and post online this type of scam.

TonyCheong2

29-12-2016, 03:18 PM

Every day I learn something..... Thais will squeeze till the last drop of brain juice to earn tourists money. Restaurant charges LD, this is day light robbery. :D U should take photos of the restaurant and post online this type of scam.

He entered those "black shops" lah. :D

Best is not any how follow where the ayam bring you to. :p

KNN I damn hate those so called small restaurants near bars or on Sukhumvit.
Price is amost on par with 3 Star hotel cafe.
I'd rather take a taxi to some decent hotel cafe or Huai Khwang market and have my supper. :cool:

anikisan

29-12-2016, 09:12 PM

Nah. Mai gong bo jio hor.

For those who haven't visit agg before and want to see how it is really like but youtube cannot see much, here it is:

http://www.philippinesporn.com/barhopping-at-nana/

btw, this ang moh knn travel around asia and fuck raw with all the girls. not scared aids meh? i seriously think he already an aids carrier then pple like him fuck care anymore.

mariosuper

30-12-2016, 12:42 AM

I believe many bros here had also been to this restaurant before. I myself had brought many fellow friends with their LT girls from cowboy to have meals there. So far, never did that experience that. Also never heard of stories like this. Perhaps some other bros can verify/testify as well. ;):confused:

Every day I learn something..... Thais will squeeze till the last drop of brain juice to earn tourists money. Restaurant charges LD, this is day light robbery. :D U should take photos of the restaurant and post online this type of scam.

didn't notice the name for the restaurant, i kept the copy of the receipt but cannot find it anymore. basically there is 2 receipt, 1 for the food + our drinks, and 1 separate receipt for the LD only.

if you walk along crazy house, it is kinda like the 1st shop you will see, the shop has fish tank infront, very small shop front, had to walk along a narrow passage way to reach the dinning hall, when you go in it kinda dark one.

<< walk along this direction
| scam restaurant | entrance to some building | crazy house |

zwli84

30-12-2016, 12:43 AM

Raw is war !!!!!

erobaka

30-12-2016, 01:09 AM

sharing 1 unhappy incident we have with a girl from Baccara.

one of the night we end early at Baccara, my friend barfine+LT a b-grade girl while im intending to try my luck at thermae. after we left the joint, the girl suggest we have a quick supper as she is hungry, so she bring us to a thai food place near by.

the restaurant is kinda dark, so im abit wary also. but the menu come with pricing label properly, price is like siam area range (consider expensive for a small neighborhood joint). but the girl only order a 3 dish (all spicy!!) for 3 of us, so im thinking total bill wont exceed 600b, so just go along. cos the dish is spicy, so along the way she order like 3 glasses of coke also, we just order 2 bottle water.

when the bill finally came, the bill face down with a big number 1400b written on top! i was kinda shock. then i turn over the bill to inspect the break down. end up each glasses of the coke cost 300b! 3 glasses of coke for the lady is 900b alone! We protested, but the manager came over and explain that it is just lady drink for the girl.

KNN RESTAURANT ALSO HAVE LADY DRINKS :mad: my friend girl just gave an innocent looks saying all the girl come here for supper, so it like not her fault also. it is very obvious that she has a cut in the lady drink when she bring us here, but she keep denying that.

there is other 3 group of gogo girl with customer (all asian looking) around us also, when my friend raise his voice to quarrel with his girl, it kinda raise a red flag to the customer around us, so some thug looking thai man rush out of the kitchen to see also. end up no choice, lan lan pay cause dunwanna create trouble. asked my friend to let go of the girls, since havent pay for the LT yet, so still can do some dmg control.

this is kinda like the only scam we kana in the trip, but luckily the dmg is consider low, just 900b.

*edited*
the restaurant is like 20m away when you walk along crazy house. very small shop front, with a small walk way to the back to a dark hall area. come to think of it, there is food price on the menu but no drink price. i believe there is more scam restaurant like this, so if your girl is bringing u for supper, always check the pricing before ordering!

can you still recall the no. tag from the baccara puying?

so far my experience with supper with my baccara puying (Sonija Kwok hk celebrity look alike) previously is that after my ST with her she suggested to have supper together with her other 2 Baccara very close colleagues as well for some som tam since i took the last time slot to ST with her (2am) and just nice fj session ended (3am) and those 2 other gals already knock off from baccara so i agreed since i didnt tip her for the session also and was also feeling kinda hungry..so why not...btw those 2 gals were already there eating when we arrive...location is at below asoke bts station road stall (main road) there is this waitress who is a ladyboy serving all our food to the table, overall they just order their food (fish, seafood, raw veg, som tam etc) while i just eat abit of som tam (not really a fan of that lol) and my puying help me order some sweet thai roti banana since she know i dun really eat alot from the som tam also... (taste damn nice!!! maybe cos 1st time trying that also) then when we are all set and done with the table of food clearing like 3/4 of it, the bill came to me with a total of 500 baht all-in with drinks (for 4 pax in total) pretty reasonable i guess so i proceed with the payment then send them off to their cab as i think they stay together or quite close to one another...

conclude: i think this stall is pretty decent so if any bros wanna take your puying for a supper, can try there instead to play safe for your wallet etc ~ that eating session overall has that kind of feeling like bringing all 3 of your sisters out for a supper and since it was also my last night in bkk before flying back to sillypore... that sort of left a good memorable exp for me (i do not have a real sister to begin with also) and my next trip will be next feb already book itinerary but just a short and rushing trip though... :D

mariosuper

30-12-2016, 01:15 AM

can you still recall the no. tag from the baccara puying?

so far my experience with supper with my baccara puying (Sonija Kwok hk celebrity look alike) .....

i know which sonjia kwok look alike puying u talking about..hahah
silicon boobs one right?

cant rem the tag of the scam girl, name i pass to a snr bro to investigate already, wait for update ba.

vbkk

30-12-2016, 03:03 AM

He entered those "black shops" lah.

Best is not any how follow where the ayam bring you to.

KNN I damn hate those so called small restaurants near bars or on Sukhumvit.
Price is amost on par with 3 Star hotel cafe.
I'd rather take a taxi to some decent hotel cafe or Huai Khwang market and have my supper. :cool:

This shop had been there for several years for as long as I can remember. Had supper numerous times with many bros and girls from cowboy/baccara there as well. Baccara girls like to bring their customers there for meals as always bump into baccara girls there. But never heard of LDs before though. :p

i know which sonjia kwok look alike puying u talking about..hahah
silicon boobs one right?

cant rem the tag of the scam girl, name i pass to a snr bro to investigate already, wait for update ba.

Some girls share similar names at baccara. Lol. Wah get senior bro to investigate what ?

1KnightinBKK

30-12-2016, 03:24 AM

didn't notice the name for the restaurant, i kept the copy of the receipt but cannot find it anymore. basically there is 2 receipt, 1 for the food + our drinks, and 1 separate receipt for the LD only.

if you walk along crazy house, it is kinda like the 1st shop you will see, the shop has fish tank infront, very small shop front, had to walk along a narrow passage way to reach the dinning hall, when you go in it kinda dark one.

<< walk along this direction
| scam restaurant | entrance to some building | crazy house |

the restaurant is called love scene.. alot of AGGs bring their customers there.. just politely refuse in future and go to other places for supper.. Insanity served good food the girls won't turn down.. there's also a late night jap restaurant around the corner, just ask the girls they will surely know..

67127

erobaka

30-12-2016, 06:55 AM

i know which sonjia kwok look alike puying u talking about..hahah
silicon boobs one right?

cant rem the tag of the scam girl, name i pass to a snr bro to investigate already, wait for update ba.

im not really particular with boobs nor have any fetish with boobs lover kinda but she gave me the most GFE so far in my 4 trips of bkk overall and also i not yet try huai kwang shower houses yet though so yea... seems to have no fate with Nataree liao... :(

mariosuper

30-12-2016, 09:10 AM

the restaurant is called love scene.. alot of AGGs bring their customers there.. just politely refuse in future and go to other places for supper.. Insanity served good food the girls won't turn down.. there's also a late night jap restaurant around the corner, just ask the girls they will surely know..

67127

yes this is the restaurant !! :eek:

This shop had been there for several years for as long as I can remember. Had supper numerous times with many bros and girls from cowboy/baccara there as well. Baccara girls like to bring their customers there for meals as always bump into baccara girls there. But never heard of LDs before though. :p

yea when i was there got other group of agogo girl also, from baccara also, cos some are familiar face to me. my BEST GUESS is, it is up to the girl if they wanna charge LD, as in they have the option to have a normal simply meal, or get the waitress to charge LD. maybe the next time you visit, can subtly ask the waitress or your agogo girls if they have the LD system here.

i mean if our girl have a simple normal meal there, have 1 coke even if got LD we lan lan pay, close 1 eye and move on. But if her objective is to order all spicy dish and have as many drinks as possible, then is out to scam already, cannot accept such attitude.

Some girls share similar names at baccara. Lol. Wah get senior bro to investigate what ?
agree on the similar name also, but cant rem the number tag la.

objective for sharing this post is not to make the girl life difficult, but to warn other bros of such things is happening in the cheong scene, so need to take note. She probably at most earn 150b from the LD, so 3x = 450b, but lost her income of 5000b (bargain price) LT, i think she get her punishment already.

fitjazz

30-12-2016, 09:54 AM

can you still recall the no. tag from the baccara puying?

so far my experience with supper with my baccara puying (Sonija Kwok hk celebrity look alike) previously is that after my ST with her she suggested to have supper together with her other 2 Baccara very close colleagues as well for some som tam since i took the last time slot to ST with her (2am) and just nice fj session ended (3am) and those 2 other gals already knock off from baccara so i agreed since i didnt tip her for the session also and was also feeling kinda hungry..so why not...btw those 2 gals were already there eating when we arrive...location is at below asoke bts station road stall (main road) there is this waitress who is a ladyboy serving all our food to the table, overall they just order their food (fish, seafood, raw veg, som tam etc) while i just eat abit of som tam (not really a fan of that lol) and my puying help me order some sweet thai roti banana since she know i dun really eat alot from the som tam also... (taste damn nice!!! maybe cos 1st time trying that also) then when we are all set and done with the table of food clearing like 3/4 of it, the bill came to me with a total of 500 baht all-in with drinks (for 4 pax in total) pretty reasonable i guess so i proceed with the payment then send them off to their cab as i think they stay together or quite close to one another...

conclude: i think this stall is pretty decent so if any bros wanna take your puying for a supper, can try there instead to play safe for your wallet etc ~ that eating session overall has that kind of feeling like bringing all 3 of your sisters out for a supper and since it was also my last night in bkk before flying back to sillypore... that sort of left a good memorable exp for me (i do not have a real sister to begin with also) and my next trip will be next feb already book itinerary but just a short and rushing trip though... :D

What's the name of this place? Maybe I can try to eat there next time. I usually go to Martin's Kitchen. Love the Duck noodles.

lost99

30-12-2016, 04:13 PM

Restaurant charges LD, this is day light robbery. :D U should take photos of the restaurant and post online this type of scam.

If you bring these lady to the restaurant, and the ladies do not work for the restaurant, how can they charge for LDs?

I don't understand this, there is no employment between the restaurant and the girl, so why do you need to pay extra for LD? Make no sense.

Bringing a lady date to a restaurant, then need to pay extra for her drinks...:confused:

naemlo

30-12-2016, 05:48 PM

If you bring these lady to the restaurant, and the ladies do not work for the restaurant, how can they charge for LDs?

Guess, the ladies have an agreement with the restaurant to bring customers there for meal. The ladies get to have a free meal and earn extra money, why not???? :D

Lucky I dun take supper....

ZanShen

30-12-2016, 06:43 PM

OMG, frequent Barraca often but did not know the WL doing this. Good to know, appreciate your sharing.

norice

30-12-2016, 07:20 PM

Lost99,

Money talks and shit stinks in Thailand!

lost99

30-12-2016, 07:26 PM

Lost99,

Money talks and shit stinks in Thailand!

Norice....

This not just true in Thailand...... shit stinks pretty much everywhere.... just didn't think it was lurking in these hidden places in BKK.

Given my Boxing background, and refusal to fall for bullshit scams like this, i would have caused a ruckus in the restaurant or called the tourist Police. I've walked out of those scam PatPong Rd sex shows before, and all they did to me was call out manager and yell really loud to try intimidate me to pay the inflated bill - but i can tell the difference between those who just talk a big talk, and those really willing to let fists fly! Most of these places just intimidate China Style by being the louder shouter, but very few like me willing to get their fists dirty, and when they realise i am one of those rare breeds they let me walk. Alas i understand this is not the route most SG/Malay guys would use (especially those shy guys with tail up their pussycats)...but thats just me....and this is the reason these WG dare try these scams on East Asian Mongers, and not so much on our Euro/American Counterparts....

BTW, how are you doing in BKK? Hope to see you there next few months and i am doing some research in preparation for my first trip back to LOS in many years...

lost99

30-12-2016, 07:55 PM

Reporting Live at BKK! ....
Also almost 70% of the attractive girls here have boobs job which is quite a turn off for me. But have a good quantity of 7-8/10 girls here.

Used to Cheong BKK years ago, but the increasing incidence of hard plastic silicon boobs forced me look elsewhere, as this also a big turnoff for me :(

But thanks for your report. Up your points. Keen to share info on large natural busty puyings if you do go back.

norice

30-12-2016, 08:21 PM

lost99,

Best advice is to live and learn, it's not worth it to fight or call tourist police over money! One way or the other you're going to lose that amount! I've been coming to Thailand since 1996 and I'm still learning how not to be ripped off or scammed!

We just need to help each other by sharing our knowledge and experience so fellow members can have a great time in Thailand!

I'll be in Angeles City from January 8 through 15!

When you get here, we can meet at Thermae and shoot the breeze over few beers! JUST send me a PM!

Otherwise, happy New Year!

lost99

30-12-2016, 09:19 PM

it's not worth it to fight or call tourist police over money! One way or the other you're going to lose that amount!

I appreciate the advice, but telling a retired ex-fighter not worth it to fight over principle of being overtly and obviously scammed, is like telling someone not to eat or breathe. Just cant do it.

In my cheonging career, i've generally gone the other route, and let the scammer know if they wanna go this route, it's definitely not my first fight and that they are not going to leave unscathed. I've had only one incident escalate into physical pushing, but when i hipp tossed him Muay thai style and they knew i had skills, it ended right there. If you are a poker player, i can tell you that 95% of these places are bluffing, and that they themselves wont risk physical escalation and risk trouble with the police on their end for a small amount. They are just betting that you as a non-local/tourists, won't call their bluff, as most rather pay money to make problems go away. In America we call these people 'pussies' :cool:

Of course, I don't reccomend anyone follow how i do things, unless they have some skills to back it up, but my belief is that these places usually just bluffing that you don't have the balls to do anything (which is typically true, and why Patpong rd is still open and they continue to operate). The reality is these places have more to lose if you cause a scene in front of their customers or call the tourist police.

If you don't believe, watch 2:58 - 6:00 of this video below, where these undercover 'tourists' goto a Patpong sex show scam, and argued their way out of a 6000 baht scam charge down to 1000 baht by being loud and firm, without any pushing or physical escalation. Of course its best to avoid these types of situations alltogether through sharing and information, but if i am somehow forced into these type of situations, my mental makeup refuses to give in weakly and quietly without putting up a fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_BjsulmwdQ

I'll be in Angeles City from January 8 through 15!

When you get here, we can meet at Thermae and shoot the breeze over few beers!

Can't wait to hear about your AC FRs and how Pinay boobies compare to their (silicone) Thai counterparts.... :)

Happy new year to you as well!!

norice

30-12-2016, 09:54 PM

Lost99,

I had several fights and close calls in Southeast Asia but fighting is not worth it! Based on my experience and knowledge, Thais are dirty fighters, they can't fight one on one, it's always multiple Thais against one faring! Now, I believe in Love not war, he he he he he!

Getting a breast enhancement is fairly cheap in Thailand, therefore majority of working girls especially in the gogo bars are very common! Overall, Thai girls are very pretty but flat chested! Moreover, Baccara gogo bar has the highest percentage of boobs enhancements in Bangkok or Pattaya! And in Thailand, silicone capsule/bag is used but in America only saline bag is used and approved by FDA! Silicone boobs are much softer and natural compared to saline boobs but more harmful and higher rejection rate per Dr, Norice, breast specialist!

BBmanX

31-12-2016, 12:36 AM

Hi guys! planning to head to bkk in feb, anyone knows how is the situation at crazy house now? I know they are opened but are they dancing naked in the bar? Anyone?

mariosuper

31-12-2016, 12:49 AM

Hi guys! planning to head to bkk in feb, anyone knows how is the situation at crazy house now? I know they are opened but are they dancing naked in the bar? Anyone?

from my last visit, got naked dancer.

mariosuper

31-12-2016, 12:51 AM

lost99

31-12-2016, 12:56 AM

the interesting thing is there is a makeshift police post just outside baccara, but no point to create a scene, just pay 900b and learn from the lesson. keep the night happy.

i do agree with norice that thermae had the best gems so far :)

Most people here will agree with you, and rather just pay 900bht for something not their fault, and not make a scene. This is exactly the reason why these scams continue to propagate many years even when authorities are just right outside. Keep the night happy 'for now', but later become annoyed and upset that you didn't do anything (and this is why you are reporting it correct?). Its up to you and your moral makeup. I know that i will be more upset later on if i didn't do anything when i had a chance.

1KnightinBKK

31-12-2016, 04:24 AM

Lost99,

Money talks and shit stinks in Thailand!

nothing is impossible in thailand, everyone trying to find extra source of income.. as naemlo pointed out its win win for the girl and the restaurant..

from the years of visiting bkk one thing I've learnt is sometimes you win and most times you learn..

i find that speaking thai and telling them you work in bkk also increases that 亲切感, once you build that bond, they don't see you as a one off tourist and try to rip you off.. but they'll take good care of you in hopes you'll return again..

I've had FLs and AGGs treat me better than GFs and giks who are not in the night life industry..

chok dee krub..

1KnightinBKK

31-12-2016, 04:26 AM

Moreover, Baccara gogo bar has the highest percentage of boobs enhancements in Bangkok or Pattaya! And in Thailand, silicone capsule/bag is used but in America only saline bag is used and approved by FDA! Silicone boobs are much softer and natural compared to saline boobs but more harmful and higher rejection rate per Dr, Norice, breast specialist!

i find the rainbow group at NEP even more silicon, Baccara 2nd floor dancers alot au natural..

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 01:09 PM

Most people here will agree with you, and rather just pay 900bht for something not their fault, and not make a scene. This is exactly the reason why these scams continue to propagate many years even when authorities are just right outside. Keep the night happy 'for now', but later become annoyed and upset that you didn't do anything (and this is why you are reporting it correct?). Its up to you and your moral makeup. I know that i will be more upset later on if i didn't do anything when i had a chance.

Not directing to any one in particular but sometimes I find certain guys are damn funny.

Knowing that kena chop carrot already but when in front of girl don't want to lose face or hao lian so just pay up.
Then the next day can complain or blame group leader, organiser or agent for lousy arrangement. :rolleyes:

This is the reason since many years ago why I stopped meeting strangers and sticking to only usual old kakis or kaki's certified cheongsters. :p

i find that speaking thai and telling them you work in bkk also increases that 亲切感, once you build that bond, they don't see you as a one off tourist and try to rip you off.. but they'll take good care of you in hopes you'll return again..

In Thailand you can be any character you want to be.

I tell puyings I am China man blue collar worker in Foxconn (Shenzhen) as factory line leader.
My moo baan is in Xiamen. :p

Nowadays when Thais see PRC tour groups arrive they will smile extra hard 5555! :D

Siammy

31-12-2016, 02:26 PM

vbkk

31-12-2016, 02:55 PM

In Thailand you can be any character you want to be.

I tell puyings I am China man blue collar worker in Foxconn (Shenzhen) as factory line leader.
My moo baan is in Xiamen.

Nowadays when Thais see PRC tour groups arrive they will smile extra hard 5555!

I think u are very out of touch with thai already. :pMost working thai girls from coyotes to g clubs girls hated PRCs. They are rough, arrogant and disgusting. Even though "some" can pay really "good" money , but girls avoid them and even "stop drinks" after their pattern come out. So it's a misconception Thais will smile hard. Seen many occasions when PRC men enter a bar/club , the girls will avoid eye contact or even lineup for the customers because they are from china.;) umpteen times girls from bars/clubs come over and complain about their PRC customers and refuse to go sit/entertain them.

vbkk

31-12-2016, 03:00 PM

All you can ride

All 3 train systems – BTS, MRT, ARL – are offering unlimited free rides until noon tomorrow. All 3 are running until 2 am tonite.

That means that on the MRT alone, u can check out Chatuchak Market, then the eye candy at Central Lat Phrao shopping mall (note: get off at Phahon Yothin), peruse the assets at the msg parlors at Huai Khwang (be sure not to miss VIP – some SYT gems there sometimes, Hi-Class, Emmanuelle, Merci (no more Nataree, Caesars), hit the bars at Soi Cowboy, move on to Patpong (supposedly Kings Group bars now have loads of SYT dancers) and end up bonking a SYT FL in Chinatown for B500!

Trains will be damn packed! Taxis after midnight at entertainment places probably as usual will not open meter and quote high prices like last year. Always happen during big holidays like new year. Cowboy will probably have celebrations outside the bars until at least 6am in the morning. ;)

ahtecklim

31-12-2016, 03:35 PM

In my cheonging career, i've generally gone the other route, and let the scammer know if they wanna go this route, it's definitely not my first fight and that they are not going to leave unscathed. I've had only one incident escalate into physical pushing, but when i hipp tossed him Muay thai style and they knew i had skills, it ended right there. If you are a poker player, i can tell you that 95% of these places are bluffing, and that they themselves wont risk physical escalation and risk trouble with the police on their end for a small amount. They are just betting that you as a non-local/tourists, won't call their bluff, as most rather pay money to make problems go away. In America we call these people 'pussies' :cool:

Of course, I don't reccomend anyone follow how i do things, unless they have some skills to back it up, but my belief is that these places usually just bluffing that you don't have the balls to do anything (which is typically true, and why Patpong rd is still open and they continue to operate). The reality is these places have more to lose if you cause a scene in front of their customers or call the tourist police.

If you don't believe, watch 2:58 - 6:00 of this video below, where these undercover 'tourists' goto a Patpong sex show scam, and argued their way out of a 6000 baht scam charge down to 1000 baht by being loud and firm, without any pushing or physical escalation. Of course its best to avoid these types of situations alltogether through sharing and information, but if i am somehow forced into these type of situations, my mental makeup refuses to give in weakly and quietly without putting up a fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_BjsulmwdQ

This is the not the best advice you can give someone. I cant tell you the number of times I walked out of a situation just being nice. The power of the smile goes a long way! The hard way doesn't always work , the soft approach is always better.

Yes most of the time they are bluffing but even a smart poker player knows whats at risk and where and when to take that risk.

Its more important to read the situation and react to it than standing firm all the time.

lost99

31-12-2016, 05:17 PM

This is the not the best advice you can give someone. I cant tell you the number of times I walked out of a situation just being nice. The power of the smile goes a long way! The hard way doesn't always work , the soft approach is always better.

Yes most of the time they are bluffing but even a smart poker player knows whats at risk and where and when to take that risk.

Its more important to read the situation and react to it than standing firm all the time.

So what are you saying? If a manger comes to you demanding you pay an inflated 6000baht bill, just smile and take the soft approach and be nice, and it will work? If you look at the video, these guys tried to be nice about it first, but when they were met with hostility they had to match it and argue fierce and hard to get it reduced. The soft approach doesn't always work, its a pussy's way out, and you should stand firm when you have no other choice (but not necessarily all the time, or as a first option).

Smiling and being a soft boiled carrot does not work in these situations when someone is being aggressive, hostile, and trying hard to scam you. Its Women who cry and smile to get out of problems, but it takes a real man to stand up. In fact just smiling and being passive can make you more vulnerable as it shows fear and that you'll likey open your wallet to pay your way out of the problem. In fact look at this video where a Songthiaw driver try to scam a tourist who was trying to act nice...and smiling and acting soft got him nowhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRJPkLCeKsQ

Thai Scammers know that most tourists don't want trouble, and will deliberately look for those that are 'weak' and 'soft' for fear of reprisal and easy targets. I can' tell you the number of situations where people backed down from me once they realised i wasn't a soft chump and they are not getting anything from me. In this situation you can either develop your spine and take control, or act like a carrot, 'Smile' and say 'yes sir' to open your wallet for them to rob you. its your choice - i don't force anyone to take my approach, but there is another option than 'smiling' like a useless carrot.

Of course try to be nice to avoid these kind of situations in the first place, but sometimes we have no choice and trouble finds us because we are always targets, as foreigners in another country. I'm sure Mario above tried to the the soft approach like you and smile, but the manager didn't care and became hostile. In the end his smiling cost him 900baht scam, and he complain about it here afterwards, when he could have stood up to the manager there.

knowntender

31-12-2016, 05:45 PM

I think u are very out of touch with thai already. :pMost working thai girls from coyotes to g clubs girls hated PRCs. They are rough, arrogant and disgusting. Even though "some" can pay really "good" money , but girls avoid them and even "stop drinks" after their pattern come out. So it's a misconception Thais will smile hard. Seen many occasions when PRC men enter a bar/club , the girls will avoid eye contact or even lineup for the customers because they are from china.;) umpteen times girls from bars/clubs come over and complain about their PRC customers and refuse to go sit/entertain them.

Thailand are very sophisticated in responding to the large influx of special sector in tourist industry -- acting smartly in adapting and chasing the tourist $$$. You ever noticed the change of Thai-English-Japanese trilingual signs everywhere to Thai-English-Russian, then Thai-English-Simplified Chinese signs everywhere nowadays ?

There had been much done in setting up in facilities, districts and pastime activities ( read : shopping mak mak ) for PRC guests, primarily for tour group and family tourists. However, there had not been much happening in PRC coming for sex in Thailand. Are they strong force in the P4P here in Thailand ? Honestly I did not notice it. So may be both Bros Tony2 and VBKK had missed something ?

knowntender

31-12-2016, 05:55 PM

It is now just hours to the end of Year 2559 and all Thai will ever remember the moment in October 2559.

Let's cheer for a Happy New Year 2060.
Any counting down in Thailand this evening ?

vbkk

31-12-2016, 05:56 PM

Thailand are very sophisticated in responding to the large influx of special sector in tourist industry -- acting smartly in adapting and chasing the tourist $$$. You ever noticed the change of Thai-English-Japanese trilingual signs everywhere to Thai-English-Russian, then Thai-English-Simplified Chinese signs everywhere nowadays ?

There had been much done in setting up in facilities, districts and pastime activities ( read : shopping mak mak ) for PRC guests, primarily for tour group and family tourists. However, there had not been much happening in PRC coming for sex in Thailand. Are they strong force in the P4P here in Thailand ? Honestly I did not notice it. So may be both Bros Tony2 and VBKK had missed something ?

Yup the country is trying to open up "welcoming" PRCs to spend here but from the high so/average thai/night life people , most dislike the way they behave here. U can generally see the "rolled eyes" look on thai faces ( given the fact thai people often smile ) when a particular PRC behave the way they do like those in SG. PRC guys also patronised g clubs and they often think that with money,they can do anything to the girls like back in their country. More often than not, many requested to "stop drink" with the PRC and prefer to be scolded than to sit with them. So does the coyotes at cowboy and nana. ;)

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 06:32 PM

I think u are very out of touch with thai already. Most working thai girls from coyotes to g clubs girls hated PRCs. They are rough, arrogant and disgusting. Even though "some" can pay really "good" money, but girls avoid them and even "stop drinks" after their pattern come out. So it's a misconception Thais will smile hard. Seen many occasions when PRC men enter a bar/club , the girls will avoid eye contact or even lineup for the customers because they are from china. umpteen times girls from bars/clubs come over and complain about their PRC customers and refuse to go sit/entertain them.

Yes so what if I am out of touch with Thailand?
I have my personal opinions and you have yours which is fine by me. :cool:

Lately you like to troll me huh.
Song boh? :D

When Thai girls converse with ang moh/foreigner they may say they detest certain nationalities and vice versa.
So if Thai nightlife girls tell you they detest PRCs and you believe 100% then it's your perogative lah. :D
If I believe 100% what Thai nightlife girls tell me, I think it's very kum lan. :p

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 06:52 PM

Thailand are very sophisticated in responding to the large influx of special sector in tourist industry -- acting smartly in adapting and chasing the tourist $$$. You ever noticed the change of Thai-English-Japanese trilingual signs everywhere to Thai-English-Russian, then Thai-English-Simplified Chinese signs everywhere nowadays ?

There had been much done in setting up in facilities, districts and pastime activities ( read : shopping mak mak ) for PRC guests, primarily for tour group and family tourists. However, there had not been much happening in PRC coming for sex in Thailand. Are they strong force in the P4P here in Thailand? Honestly I did not notice it. So may be both Bros Tony2 and VBKK had missed something ?

Currently PRC tourists come mostly on tour groups or as free and easy travellers.
But I could be wrong as some people say I'm out of touch with Thailand. :rolleyes:

The Tourism Authority of Thailand can easily refer to tourist arrival statistics.
The PRCs are the top spending group in Thailand currently.
Not as individuals but on the whole.
Per person spending is not high as they come on low cost tour package but the sheer volume makes up a tidy gross spending.

At the moment as for P4P and nightlife venues the PRC group is not that much as compared to farangs and Asians from Asia. :)

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 07:03 PM

Yup the country is trying to open up "welcoming" PRCs to spend here but from the high so/average thai/night life people , most dislike the way they behave here. U can generally see the "rolled eyes" look on thai faces ( given the fact thai people often smile ) when a particular PRC behave the way they do like those in SG. PRC guys also patronised g clubs and they often think that with money,they can do anything to the girls like back in their country. More often than not, many requested to "stop drink" with the PRC and prefer to be scolded than to sit with them. So does the coyotes at cowboy and nana. ;)

Yes please tell all your Thai associates to turn PRC customers away since they dislike PRCs so much especially humsup "China man" blue collar Foxconn (Shenzhen) line leader like me 555! :D

vbkk

31-12-2016, 07:03 PM

Yes so what if I am out of touch with Thailand?
I have my personal opinions and you have yours which is fine by me.

Lately you like to troll me huh.
Song boh?

When Thai girls converse with ang moh/foreigner they may say they detest certain nationalities and vice versa.
So if Thai nightlife girls tell you they detest PRCs and you believe 100% then it's your perogative lah.
If I believe 100% what Thai nightlife girls tell me, I think it's very kum lan.

Out of touch from the scene for so long already so dun mislead other bros here mah.

Troll u for what? Just happens that lately your posts have inaccurate information so I merely post my views on the issue/matter.

555,I dun think I need u to teach me how to understand thai girls since I have been working with them many years already. If u understand them better, u probably would be the one managing them and not me. Sometimes no need for anyone to come tell u or complain to u, as someone who is on the scene Everyday, I have eyes to observe what's the situation is going on here. On contrary, most of those met me knew that I never trust/believe what they said, only unless I verify it through my own. But just like how PRCs are throwing their reputation in every other country, Thailand people has the same sentiments like the rest of people around the world on their behaviour. ;)

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 07:09 PM

Out of touch from the scene for so long already so dun mislead other bros here mah.

Troll u for what? Just happens that lately your posts have inaccurate information so I merely post my views on the issue/matter.

555,I dun think I need u to teach me how to understand thai girls since I have been working with them many years already. If u understand them better, u probably would be the one managing them and not me. Sometimes no need for anyone to come tell u or complain to u, as someone who is on the scene Everyday, I have eyes to observe what's the situation is going on here. On contrary, most of those met me knew that I never trust/believe what they said, only unless I verify it through my own. But just like how PRCs are throwing their reputation in every other country, Thailand people has the same sentiments like the rest of people around the world on their behaviour. ;)

555 ok loh you ownself say ownself song lah. :D

So to all bros my comments are all misleading and out of touch to comment.
Please don't believe in any thing that I say.

Only vbkk is on the ground and has the most reliable knowledge. :p

vbkk

31-12-2016, 07:10 PM

Yes please tell all your Thai associates to turn PRC customers away since they dislike PRCs so much especially humsup blue collar Foxconn (Shenzhen) line leader like me 555!

I have nothing against them. Lol. Why should I do that? Apparently u are not reading it well. It's the girls who felt that they are rough and ungentlemanly. Also there's no need to turn them away. They generally feel the difference when the prettier/better ones refused to give a second look at them. They will automatically check bin and leave. Like how some places do not allow Indians and bangala to enter. Not a surprise a few years down the road, it might happen if things change. Everyone in the forum knows what u work as in China lah. :p

vbkk

31-12-2016, 07:18 PM

555 ok loh you ownself say ownself song lah.

So to all bros my comments are all misleading.
Please don't believe in any thing that I say.

Only vbkk is on the ground and has the most reliable knowledge.

I believe bros here already are smart enough to differentiate who is contributing info here and who does not. Just search our history posts will able to know. I would not say I have the most reliable knowledge here but many do appreciate instead of "silly/Suan" posts they see chucked out by some "contributors". I simply told them just ignore/bypass the posts. It's a open forum. Can't stop if anyone wants to make a fool of themselves. ;)

vbkk

31-12-2016, 07:22 PM

Anyway let's not turn this thread into a discussion on what's right and wrong etiquettes here. I believe most here would prefer to read more FRs and updates on the live scene here than all the unnecessary "Suaning" and quarrels that might be created by some. There's a TCSS thread by the way. More actual updates on the Bangkok nightlife by everyone here would be more welcome than this. ;)

Have a Happy New Year 2017 in China and may your business prosper in the new year!

Countdown to the new year in 5 hours time!

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 07:35 PM

I believe bros here already are smart enough to differentiate who is contributing info here and who does not. Just search our history posts will able to know. I would not say I have the most reliable knowledge here but many do appreciate instead of "silly/Suan" posts they see chucked out by some "contributors". I simply told them just ignore/bypass the posts. It's a open forum. Can't stop if anyone wants to make a fool of themselves. ;)

Like you said bros can use their own judgement on who is contributing or who is talking cock lah!
Who is misleading, who is suaning and who think that they know it all lah. :D

555 so don't search my past postings as all misleading info.
Better yet tell your bros to put me on ignore list so can browse the threads more efficiently. :p
Search for vbkk postings as have the latest and most accurate info on the ground.

I suggest you PM the SBF board of directors to appoint you as Mod since you like to dictate people what to say and what not.

Have a Happy New Year 2017 in Thailand and may your business prosper in the new year! :)

BBmanX

31-12-2016, 07:40 PM

from my last visit, got naked dancer.

Thank you! very much! and happy new year!

vbkk

31-12-2016, 07:45 PM

Like you said bros can use their own judgement on who is contributing or who is talking cock lah!
Who is misleading, who is suaning and who think that they know it all lah.

555 so don't search my past postings as all misleading info.
Better yet tell your bros to put me on ignore list so can browse the threads more efficiently.
Search for vbkk postings as have the latest and most accurate info on the ground.

I suggest you PM the SBF board of directors to appoint you as Mod since you like to dictate people what to say and what not.

Have a Happy New Year 2017 in Thailand and may your business prosper in the new year! :)

U more active here and also other threads. U have more time and commitment to take up the role as a Mod or whatever. Since u reply for the sake of replying to almost every post here daily. I'm better off coming here once in a while to update the scene/views. ;)

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 07:47 PM

U more active here and also other threads. U have more time and commitment to take up the role as a Mod or whatever. Since u reply for the sake of replying to almost every post here daily. I'm better off coming here once in a while to update the scene/views.

You come out and tell people what can post or what cannot post I thought you're newly appointed Thai folder moderator! :eek:

Post more means must be Mod? :confused:
I only have about 2000 posts like that consider active?
Then those have 10,000 plus posts are considered spammers liao loh 555.

I post for song and when I'm free to do so.
Like that you also buay song? :confused:

If any one not happy to read my posts just put me on ignore list.
Simple as that. :)

vbkk

31-12-2016, 08:02 PM

You come out and tell people what can post or what cannot post I thought you're newly appointed Thai folder moderator!

Post more means must be Mod?
I only have about 2000 posts like that consider active?
Then those have 10,000 plus posts are considered spammers liao loh 555.

I post for song and when I'm free to do so.
Like that you also buay song?

If any one not happy to read my posts just put me on ignore list.
Simple as that.

I dun see the rest of the samsters reacting the same way like u do though when I quote their posts. Lol :p

I never tell people what can post or what cannot post. After all, it's a open forum. Everyone can post what they want. Just that more often than not, people will somehow roughly can see the character/personality of a person from the way they post/content. Like many asked why some certain samsters behave this/that way on the forum, I just merely shrugged my shoulders. :)

Everyone has their way of life. U can choose to live the way u want it to be. Going around poking fun at people if u feel happy, by all means continue to do so.I quote your post means I buay song u? I quote many bros here/there on their FRs/info but only 1 reacted the same way as u. Lol.

Dun worry, I believe most samsters here knows what to do when they read a irrelevant post. Just like what we are both generating on this thread. :)

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 08:14 PM

I dun see the rest of the samsters reacting the same way like u do though when I quote their posts. Lol

I never tell people what can post or what cannot post. After all, it's a open forum. Everyone can post what they want. Just that more often than not, people will somehow roughly can see the character/personality of a person from the way they post/content. Like many asked why some certain samsters behave this/that way on the forum, I just merely shrugged my shoulders.

Everyone has their way of life. U can choose to live the way u want it to be. Going around poking fun at people if u feel happy, by all means continue to do so.I quote your post means I buay song u? I quote many bros here/there on their FRs/info but only 1 reacted the same way as u. Lol.

Dun worry, I believe most samsters here knows what to do when they read a irrelevant post. Just like what we are both generating on this thread.

Whatever lah you ownself say ownself song loh. :D

Oh ya like many also asked me before why there're so many busybodies on the forum, I also shrugged my shoulders. :)

Good mah I reply you and you reply me.
More posts = more traffic.
Boss Sammy lagi happy when posters generate more posts and traffic. :D

Wow today you so free can reply me so speedily.
Not busy working ahh or still early 555? :p

anikisan

31-12-2016, 09:04 PM

mariosuper

31-12-2016, 09:09 PM

Of course try to be nice to avoid these kind of situations in the first place, but sometimes we have no choice and trouble finds us because we are always targets, as foreigners in another country. I'm sure Mario above tried to the the soft approach like you and smile, but the manager didn't care and became hostile. In the end his smiling cost him 900baht scam, and he complain about it here afterwards, when he could have stood up to the manager there.

actually from the start till the end the lady manager is very nice and polite, just keep repeating that the 900b is for lady drinks. my friend is the angry one that keep exchange angry words with the gogo girls. while im just chill and wanna see how things unfold.

if im 10 years younger probably will use that stand firm approach, but over the years can say grew wise (or some say grew weak...) if money can settle just use money settle, cheong safe most impt. live to cheong another day~~ :D

until the thug looking kitchen staffs came out (mostly to kpo i think) then i feel better stop my friend before things escalate further, just pay and go, leaving the agogo girl staying behind (to collect her LD fees or watever, but not our problem already).

Again, the purpose of sharing is to highlight that such scam is going on with some of the agogo girl. but not to seek revenge or whatever. we did went back bacarra the next day, but it never cross our mind to make complain or what. we didn't see the girl working that night also.

naemlo

31-12-2016, 10:09 PM

Then those have 10,000 plus posts are considered spammers liao loh 555.

Wow... I am 1 of the biggest talk cock ppl in this forum.... I have more than 20k postings... CB I think I need to get a life.

vbkk

31-12-2016, 10:14 PM

wah. really ah. how bad it is bro?

my last cheonging was in jul this year, and i haven't witness any negative treatment to prcs. maybe except for indian men as a lot of them are very calculative.

Unless u are very observant type or goes into a bar to observe customers and girls interaction instead of ogling at your pick of the night, u probably will not be able to sense it I'm abit peculiar as whenever I'm in bar, I spend most of my time observing the happenings inside the bar. Waiter vs customer / customer vs coyote / customer's interaction among their own friends. Boss/manager/agents interaction Etc. Mainly because I'm not there for the girls for a certain reason. Most won't be doing what I does would probably not interested unless there's some dispute or commotion.

In general not all Indians are calculative or stingy. I have Indian customers spend 10-15k in just 1-2 hours inside the bar as well. Likewise for PRCs. Although they maybe wealthy and can spend, their mannerism is very much hated by many. Loud talking and arrogant. Not all but majority. Lol

Party and countdown for new year 2017! Go out and have fun Bros!

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 10:47 PM

Again, the purpose of sharing is to highlight that such scam is going on with some of the agogo girl. but not to seek revenge or whatever. we did went back bacarra the next day, but it never cross our mind to make complain or what. we didn't see the girl working that night also.

Must be quite dramatic that night. :D

Wow... I am 1 of the biggest talk cock ppl in this forum.... I have more than 20k postings... CB I think I need to get a life.

Yalah still dare to say!
Boss Sammy deep inside know you're helping to generate traffic for SBF forum mak mak 555!

You also not staying in Thailand liao.
Make sure you only post info when you are on the ground ok?
Don't be out of touch and tio chak by people on the ground! :eek:

Haha joking niah.
Don't angry me ok? :D

Happy New Year 2017 na!
Later send one ladyboy with big cock to your room dai mai 555? :p

naemlo

31-12-2016, 10:57 PM

Make sure you only post info when you are on the ground ok?

Was in few AGGs few nights ago... Gers were just ugly except Baccara. :D BTW, I am always on the ground.

TonyCheong2

31-12-2016, 11:01 PM

Was in few AGGs few nights ago... Gers were just ugly except Baccara. :D BTW, I am always on the ground.

Oh I see you keep getting posted here and there.
Macam work for ASEAN.
I also cuntfused where you're located 555! :D

Good lah you're on the ground.
Your info very reliable! :cool:

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Lion_Barbell

01-01-2017, 12:20 AM

lost99,

........and I'm still learning how not to be ripped off or scammed!

I'll be in Angeles City from January 8 through 15!!

When you in AC do not let the girls bring you to the Korean restaurant on Fields Ave opposite to High Society for supper. Bargirls & FLs like to bring their Johns there for a meal before going back to the hotel rooms. They get a commission off the bill from the restaurant. :D

SummerXrain

01-01-2017, 02:22 AM

Guys what about insanity?

tegzy

01-01-2017, 02:39 AM

Doing bkk and pat solo for a week from the 10th of Jan. Wouldn't mind teaming up with anyone else who will be around. PM me please!

knowntender

01-01-2017, 02:52 AM

Was in few AGGs few nights ago... Gers were just ugly except Baccara. :D BTW, I am always on the ground.

Hi Bros,

Happy New Year to you.
I think you still like SYT as time goes by whether drinking whisky or beer.

Knowntender.

naemlo

01-01-2017, 02:54 AM

Hi Bros,

Happy New Year to you.
I think you still like SYT as time goes by whether drinking whisky or beer.

Knowntender.

U are so free when u are out of Thailand... enjoy yourself, hoping to go Pattaya....

knowntender

01-01-2017, 03:15 AM

The Tourism Authority of Thailand can easily refer to tourist arrival statistics.
The PRCs are the top spending group in Thailand currently.
Not as individuals but on the whole.
Per person spending is not high as they come on low cost tour package but the sheer volume makes up a tidy gross spending.

I was in BKK couple of days ago and read some tourism info published on Bangkok Post. This is statistics for tourist dollar figures, international and domestic tourist as a whole and not related to special nationalities and these figures are quoting from tourism officials.

Current tourism revenue for 2016 is around 2.5 trillion B / 70 billion USD, and expected to rise to 2.7 trillion B in the coming year.

There is of course fat profit in tourism business anywhere. I guess there may be 10-20 % profit margin in this industry. BTW, so many new houses in Issan built by the girls and ladyboys using sponsored money had not been accounted in these official figures.

1KnightinBKK

01-01-2017, 05:43 AM

Wow... I am 1 of the biggest talk cock ppl in this forum.... I have more than 20k postings... CB I think I need to get a life.

nowadays sibei eng, hand holding biz slow down ah? told u not to always recommend katoey to our sinkie bros :D:D

norice

01-01-2017, 06:47 AM

Lion_Barbell,

Thanks for the advice on AC!

naemlo

01-01-2017, 01:28 PM

BTW, so many new houses in Issan built by the girls and ladyboys using sponsored money had not been accounted in these official figures.

Where's yours?? I go visit.

nowadays sibei eng, hand holding biz slow down ah? told u not to always recommend katoey to our sinkie bros :D:D

Bo pian, a lot of guys want cheap, want green, want big so a LB is the best. :D

lost99

01-01-2017, 01:43 PM

Anyone ever try the $$$$$$ website for booking outcall?

https://$$$$$$.com/

The prices seem quite reasonable, 3200baht/hr , which is cheaper than getting from Agogo etc...

TonyCheong2

01-01-2017, 05:44 PM

BTW, so many new houses in Issan built by the girls and ladyboys using sponsored money had not been accounted in these official figures.

555 how true! :D

told u not to always recommend katoey to our sinkie bros.

Bo pian, a lot of guys want cheap, want green, want big so a LB is the best. :D

Want cheap and green then only ladyboys with big cocks will give discount.
Cuz they like to pump the "dark side" hole. :eek: :p

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erobaka

02-01-2017, 11:30 AM

Issan is like a very common hometown for those paying working in Bkk same goes for Bandung another common hometown for ceweks working in Jakarta I guess?

erobaka

02-01-2017, 11:35 AM

The dark side hole = arsehole you mean?

erobaka

02-01-2017, 11:39 AM

Anyone ever try the $$$$$$ website for booking outcall?

https://$$$$$$.com/

The prices seem quite reasonable, 3200baht/hr , which is cheaper than getting from Agogo etc...

quite true also by the time you order your drink they order their drink sure over this amount liao.... :eek: will try this during my next bkk trip at early feb ! thanks bro lost99 for sharing

arrowcloud

02-01-2017, 03:02 PM

Just a quick FR on Yin from Addicts. Recently addicts hasn't been reported on here, but it still seems the same. Lots of girls in sexy FA costumes and prices are also steady between the 2-2500 baht range. Picked Yin because she had slightly tanned skin and the best figure among the whole group. She looks slightly latina but is a local from Bangkok.

The next 90 minutes were a slice of heaven. She has probably got the best ass among anyone I've seen in bangkok. She told me later that she regularly squats at gym keeping her perky back there.

Service was fantastic, very attentive and caring. Very typical of addicts.

anikisan

02-01-2017, 06:07 PM

hi bros,

being the bookworm and nerd i am (ok, a cheongster nerd haha), i've started reading this book "patpong sisters" by cleo odzer, phd holder on anthropology, was an american writer, author of books on prostitution in Thailand, the hippie culture of Goa, and cybersex. heard she died of drug overdose while reverting back to her hippie lifestyle in india in her later years.

anyway, for those bros out there, this is a good read to get deeper insights into prostitution and thai culture would find this a really good read. bought this book at kino at siam paragon. i'm sure you can also find it online.

and, for a start, if we would like to just talk about 'prostitution' and 'marriage', then perhaps this is a good starting point:)

“What does it mean, anyway, to sell oneself? People think you sold yourself. But what about all these women around me? Times have changed. Look at all these women setting prices for themselves: a house, a car, an income of so many thousands per year. Okay, it’s a deal. They just call it something else: marriage. Wives sell themselves nightly, their bodies mute and aloof as merchandise. In return they get three meals a day and closets and drawers full of clothes and jewellery. And this isn’t the only way it’s done. Some sell out for power, others for fame. Some sell themselves for a city residence permit in China or a green card in the U.S. Are there any women out there who aren’t selling themselves?”

Geling Yan, The Lost Daughter of Happiness

imho, i agree with the definition of marriage above haha. being in both the dating and mongering scene, i realised that people always want something for themselves in a r/s. men want sex, power, a sense of superiority, a sense of being a man when you take care of your girl, family etc etc and women, of coz they choose their life partners with certain criteria - does it sound familiar (most) of them only go with men for marriage or long term r/s with men with at least a stable financial status? if they are rich, that is a bonus! or some women like their men to be tall, dark and handsome just as men like their women to be proportionate - good breasts, well rounded hips, submissive and beautiful?

like, for eg, i have a friend, who in the beginning seems to keen to find the 'ideal' husband and when after a few years of searching without much success (she is not ugly by any standards and has her fair share of men wooing her btw) who finally settled for a man she just met online - they tied the knot within 9 months! i was astounded because his faith wasn't the same as hers (she had insisted only marrying men of the same faith as part of her requirement). later, when i found out that he is a surgeon, plus the fact that he fails most of her initial checklist (like, to be tall, athletic etc etc) oh boy. that explains everything.

it was a deal after all. remove all the lovely dovely stuff behind this legal arrangement called marriage, it can be summed as:

man meets woman's criteria.
man also ok, so man buys her a diamond ring and promise to take care of her all her life
woman opens her legs for him every night.

food for thought while we surf porn or think about sex lol

erobaka

03-01-2017, 12:28 AM

1KnightinBKK

03-01-2017, 03:55 AM

Bo pian, a lot of guys want cheap, want green, want big so a LB is the best. :D

u r too nice guy la.. if me i ask them go Tesco or Big C find cheap, green and big.. but hole ownself dig

68382

TonyCheong2

03-01-2017, 02:33 PM

u r too nice guy la.. if me i ask them go Tesco or Big C find cheap, green and big.. but hole ownself dig

68382

555 damn funny pic! :D

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lostboyz

03-01-2017, 06:35 PM

Hey guys, how's scratch dog these days? Probably will pop by bkk this fri for 2 nights.

Confusius

04-01-2017, 04:10 AM

Hi guys, new to BKK chiong scene.
I only familiar with s'pore KTVs where anything goes for Viet girls in the KTV room (will not mention name of KTVs here). :-P

Read from thread that Thermae seems to be the better place to find good looking girls for ST / LT but it seems to be a pure select and go place with no action in club.
Other clubs like Baccara also seems the girls are also generally quick in asking for ST.
MP are essentially direct FJ shops.
Seems most places are direct transactions.
(Do correct me if i've wrong understanding).

Some qns hope experience bros here can advise;
1) Any clubs / KTV that has best playability in your opinion (eg. raba you and let you auto roam) to recommend?
2) For Thermae, how to get FL with good service instead of leaving to chance?
3) Any clubs you recommend for LT that girls provide consistent good service with GFE feel (i understand it can be subjective)?

Sorry for the noob qns and thank you in advance for your kind patience and advice. :D

lost99

04-01-2017, 05:18 AM

Hi guys, new to BKK chiong scene... find good looking girls for ST / LT but it seems to be a pure select and go place with no action in club.
Other clubs like Baccara also seems the girls are also generally quick in asking for ST.
MP are essentially direct FJ shops.
Seems most places are direct transactions.

Your questions are confusing because Sex is packaged in many different 'flavors' in BKK, and you do not clarify which type of 'flavor' you want.

1. Thermae is a Freelancer bar, where all the girls are independent, and you just pick a girl directly for ST or LT back at your hotel room. GFE is entirely up to you and the girl and there is no garuntee you will have good chemistry in the room, so you choose carefully based on your interaction and feel in the bar. There is no garuntee. People like Thermae because it is direct, easy, and economical compared to other options (2500ST/5000LT on average).

2. Bacarra is a GoGo Bar, where many girls dance in bikini on stage and you need to pay set Barfine and ST/LT fees to bring the girl back. The girls here tend to be more attractive, and are generally safer since you can complain to the bar if any issues with the girl. The downside is these places are more expensive (500 baht barfine + 3000ST/6000Lt if not mistaken).

3. Neither of these places are KTV joints which you are comparing it to. KTV usually involves a group of guys singing and drinking with Lady Companions (LCs) which you can kiss, grope, and develop GFE, then dabao to your hotel if you are so inclined. KTV is one of the most expensive options and will cost more than Freelance or Gogo when all expenses are tabulated.

4. GFE feel is entirely between you and the girl, and does not really matter whether she comes from a KTV/Gogo bar/Freelance bar/Disco. No place can guarantee better GFE over another since it is very individual and there are too many independent factors. However, you may have a better chance developing GFE at a KTV since you spend more time with the girl before you dabao, but as with everything in this game, no guarantees. I've had good GFE in quick Fuckjob shops, and shitty GFE in KTV before. Again, it totally depends on you and the girl, no matter where she comes from and what you are doing.

5. The better question to ask yourself, is which 'flavor' of sex do you prefer? Freelancer bar, Massage parlor, KtV, GoGo, G-Club, or Disco, and take it from there. If you enjoy KTV, then you should probably do the same thing in BKK. GFE is an abstract concept and you shouldn't make that your guiding criteria, but an ancillary goal when you are cheonging in your preferred style.

vbkk

04-01-2017, 05:37 AM

2. Bacarra is a GoGo Bar, where many girls dance in bikini on stage and you need to pay set Barfine and ST/LT fees to bring the girl back. The girls here tend to be more attractive, and are generally safer since you can complain to the bar if any issues with the girl. The downside is these places are more expensive (500 baht barfine + 3000ST/6000Lt if not mistaken).

Baccara's barfine would be 600฿ + 2 lady drinks ( 200฿ each ) = 1,000฿

Good info there ;)

hayhay

04-01-2017, 12:36 PM

fiddler3343

04-01-2017, 01:03 PM

Hi guys, new to BKK chiong scene.
I only familiar with s'pore KTVs where anything goes for Viet girls in the KTV room (will not mention name of KTVs here). :-P

Some qns hope experience bros here can advise;
1) Any clubs / KTV that has best playability in your opinion (eg. raba you and let you auto roam) to recommend?

Sorry for the noob qns and thank you in advance for your kind patience and advice. :D

Clubs/KTV, I believe G-Clubs would fit the bill.
The Pimp, though the cost is quite high in comparison with Thermae and AGGs.
Though not all girls from the Pimp would go back with you, so you gotta sound off to the MMS to bring in only those that can Tabao into your room for selection.

naemlo

04-01-2017, 04:21 PM

How can you assured that by paying 1000usd one will get good service? :confused:

U can't even believe 100% those posting a FR here so u must try it yourself.

happy456

04-01-2017, 10:46 PM

Hi bros,

Anyone been to BKK during Songkran period before and can give some advice if bar/agao/massage gals are still working or on holiday? As I will be going from 12 to 16 Apr 2017 and need some advice on cheonging during this period. Thanks in advance.

TonyCheong2

04-01-2017, 11:25 PM

U can't even believe 100% those posting a FR here so u must try it yourself.

Other people have coyotes.
Good that you have ladyboys with big cocks on standby for those looking for cheap and green 555! :eek: :D

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Siammy

05-01-2017, 03:13 AM

Crazy House party

The door guys aren’t charging B100 entry anymore, so went in. Place was packed, no seats. Lots of girls, but still no lookers. Got there just when the “show” started on the first floor. Waste of time.

Asked a dancer what the food outside was for. Turned out it was a New Year’s party. The boss gave the girls a gold necklace! But not to all of them.

Got bored so went out to get some victuals. They were BBQing pork and shrimp. There were also kanom jeen and what looked like fried rice. Just like at their anniversary party. The girls were really tucking into the shrimp – platefuls of the stuff – while drinking shots of yadong.

vbkk

05-01-2017, 04:21 AM

Other people have coyotes.
Good that you have ladyboys with big cocks on standby for those looking for cheap and green 555!

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U are one hell of a petty childish person I come across!:eek: Forum exchange views but so petty. Behave like guniang really. :rolleyes:

TonyCheong2

05-01-2017, 04:11 PM

U are one hell of a petty childish person I come across!:eek: Forum exchange views but so petty. Behave like guniang really. :rolleyes:

Hey idiot you want to start shit is it?

I am TCSSing with naemlo got your business is it?
My comments or disclaimer got name you out is it?

Readers have their own eyes to see who is the clown here. :D

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anikisan

05-01-2017, 04:13 PM

To add on, nowadays baccara girls preferred ST rather than LT. At times their ST rate is too ridiculous. :p

Just to add my 2 cents:

I've encountered baccara or other more chio ones from other aggs who are ang pai and don't allow frenching, no fingering, no touch here or there. KNN they only want to lie there and let u put ur cock in. period. but having said that, not a lot of girls are like that la. just what i experienced before though...maybe im not hansum enuff for them?? LOL

Secondly, what i had experienced in baccara bf is even after u buy them some LDs, their bf still auto + 2 LDs!

anikisan

05-01-2017, 04:17 PM

To add on, nowadays baccara girls preferred ST rather than LT. At times their ST rate is too ridiculous. :p

try Meaw from baccara. forgot her tag number leow. she's 22 and easily impressed. her GfE damn high. petite JAV lookalike girl but small boobs (B--). really smooth skin. trimmed pussy. not that tight but not very loose pussy either. she can fuck with you the whole night and yet don't complain. her weak spot is when u treat her like a lady and be gentleman (eg pull out ur chair for her to sit when u jio her down from stage), she will appreciate it very much one coz in this line i think she had seen enough barbarians leow hahaha.

vbkk

05-01-2017, 04:19 PM

Hey idiot you want to start shit is it?

I am TCSSing with naemlo got your business is it?
My comments or disclaimer got name you out is it?

Readers have their own eyes to see who is the clown here.

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

I won't stoop to your level. Waste time only. Lol. Certainly they have their mind to judge. ;):rolleyes:

Yeah by getting your clones to zap me. That shows really how petty u are. As if points really matter.

TonyCheong2

05-01-2017, 04:24 PM

I won't stoop to your level. Waste time only. Lol. Certainly they have their mind to judge.

Yeah by getting your clones to zap me. That shows really how petty u are. As if points really matter.

What a moron!
Cannot even answer if I did name you out and want to start shit.
Then stop replying to my posts and mind your own business! :cool:

If you have too much free time I suggest you go to Pratunam more often and shop for better deals for your coyotes instead of coming to forum and step on my tail. :p

So far I never zap you but I cannot stop other people from doing so.
People here have eyes to see who is the jack ass. :D

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vbkk

05-01-2017, 04:30 PM

What a moron!
Cannot even answer if I did name you out and want to start shit.
Then stop replying to my posts and mind your own business!

If you have too much free time I suggest you go to Pratunam more often and shop for better deals for your coyotes instead of coming to forum and step on my tail.

So far I never zap you but I cannot stop other people from doing so.
People here have eyes to see who is the jack ass.

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Dun be so cyber hero lah. Put time put place when u come Bangkok. Scold me in my face! Dun be so wayang on the forum. ;)

TonyCheong2

05-01-2017, 04:32 PM

Dun be so cyber hero lah. Put time put place when u come Bangkok. Scold me in my face! Dun be so wayang on the forum. ;)

Quote you first in case you edit.
Got time then reply. :D

Wow want to play pai kia (gangster)? :eek:

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vbkk

05-01-2017, 04:35 PM

Quote you first in case you edit.
Got time then reply.

Wow want to play pai kia (gangster)?

All adults here. Wear pants. Not wear skirts. What era already. Need to play pai kia? Only losers will talk big on the forum. ;)

norice

05-01-2017, 08:09 PM

samseng27

05-01-2017, 11:23 PM

Any bros in BKK now. I'm alone and damn bored. meet up and Chong anyone?

lost99

05-01-2017, 11:54 PM

I stop barfining go go girls many years already ever since they rose their bar fine fees. :D

It makes no sense to have additional 2 more drinks on top of the bar fine fees.
So I rather go to Themae where there isn't bar fine fees, and the drinks there is half the price of the go go bars pricing.

After all if the service is good, I can always use the access money that I've saved earlier on for the bar fining fee to tips them.

This makes more sense. I won't pay 1K฿, without doing anything. :p:D

I can't agree more. Barfine concept give no value to customer, but just a mechanism for Gogo Bar's to steal money from customer. The worst part is, you pay the full barfine (which should cover their 'losses' for the night) and they don't make the girls to LT if you want it; most girls just want ST and guys want LT, what is the point of paying barfine + drinks for a ST session (~1000 baht), you can pay around 2000 baht total and better service at a soapy massage without barfine. I think if girl only wants a ST session, then the barfine should be 1/2 the cost, as the barfine already covers the bars losses from her for the evening, yet she is returning to work to make more money for them.

The only thing is, some bros like going to Gogo's to drink and look at girls (without buying Lady Drinks or Barfine), and some Gogo's have better looking girls than Thermae girls, and you can see their bikini bodies before you choose!. When i come i think i would visit Gogo Bar occassionally just to look, but be very reluctant to Barfine unless the girl is of spectacular quality. However, most Baccara girls have plastic surgery and implants already which i hate. My experience at Thermae however is they tend to be more GFE, whereas Gogo girls treat it more as a transaction, and make excuse to leave and go back to work get more customer. Up to you how you like to play.

norice

06-01-2017, 12:07 AM

lost99

06-01-2017, 12:15 AM

55055,

With the money you saved from barfines, Why don't you buy the girls a plate of fried chicken wings? Those cooks working at Thermae make excellent and delicious crispy fried chicken wings! It's very cheap and delicious!

Bro Norice, I"m a vegetarian, but the Ayam' in Indonesia is much tastier than chicken's in Thailand....:D

norice

06-01-2017, 12:17 AM

Lost99,

Lately, maybe due to recession or negative economic situation, Thermae has hundreds of attractive freelancers! I agree that it's a hit or miss in regards to service but appearance wise it's top notch in Thermae!

In Thermae, no bar fines, drinks and food are cheap, no smoking, no ladyboys and waiters are honest and accommodating!

TonyCheong2

06-01-2017, 12:39 AM

Dun be so cyber hero lah. Put time put place when u come Bangkok. Scold me in my face! Dun be so wayang on the forum.

Are you stupid or what?

You pay for my air ticket from Shenzhen to Bangkok then I come loh. :cool:

All adults here. Wear pants. Not wear skirts. What era already. Need to play pai kia? Only losers will talk big on the forum.

Talking about skirts I think this area you've more experience.
555 thought you sourced bikinis for your coyotes in Pratunam before?

Ownself say ownself song again?
Tell people put time and place.
If this is not play pai kai (gangster) then what is it? :confused:

Who is the adult and who is the small boy here 555?

ybkk,

Greetings, from Belle Grand Condo!

You need to stop being argumentative and constantly contradicting other members' opinions! Even your opinions have important messages for members and also grounds for criticisms! Therefore, be more diplomatic when expressing your ideas and opinions!

Khun norice,

You not afraid he flame you again huh? :D

You sure he will dare to meet you?
Later some small boy play Mafia with you. :p

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TonyCheong2

06-01-2017, 12:40 AM

I fully agree that the barfine and ST/LT rates at Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza is a big rip off these days.

Better off hunting for FLs at Thermae Coffee Shop. :)

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lost99

06-01-2017, 01:05 AM

I fully agree that the barfine and ST/LT rates at Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza is a big rip off these days.

Better off hunting for FLs at Thermae Coffee Shop. :)

I was gonna agree with you, until i realise you are out of touch with Thailand :D

For those that do not find any suitable gal at Thermae, cal also goto Insanity, Mixx, Spicy if you enjoy freelance nightclub pickup. I haven't been to these places in some time, but i know most girls here are freelancer, maybe Norice or another bro can comment on recent quality here.

1KnightinBKK

06-01-2017, 03:58 AM

wah atmosphere here getting more sour than my tom yum goong.. peace leh..

norice

06-01-2017, 04:49 AM

lost99,

I don't know becauseI don't patronize those nightclubs! I also quit drinking alcoholic beverages!

TonyCheong2

06-01-2017, 05:32 AM

I was gonna agree with you, until i realise you are out of touch with Thailand :D

For those that do not find any suitable gal at Thermae, cal also goto Insanity, Mixx, Spicy if you enjoy freelance nightclub pickup. I haven't been to these places in some time, but i know most girls here are freelancer, maybe Norice or another bro can comment on recent quality here.

You are also out of touch with Thailand so please don't be like a pot calling the kettle black. :p

555 if you're not on the ground better not comment much if not some people will shoot you down if your opinions differ from his! :eek:

wah atmosphere here getting more sour than my tom yum goong.. peace leh..

Busybody small boy tried to act cocky but buay tahan tio suan so become dulan and start playing pai kia (gangster) 555! :D

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

vbkk

06-01-2017, 06:53 AM

Are you stupid or what?

You pay for my air ticket from Shenzhen to Bangkok then I come loh.

Talking about skirts I think this area you've more experience.
555 thought you sourced bikinis for your coyotes in Pratunam before?

Ownself say ownself song again?
Tell people put time and place.
If this is not play pai kai (gangster) then what is it?

Who is the adult and who is the small boy here 555?

Khun norice,

You not afraid he flame you again huh?

You sure he will dare to meet you?
Later some small boy play Mafia with you.

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

I thought u do come to Bangkok often? Or ever since 2014 u stopped? Agent business not so good so shifted base to china? Heard that agent business in China also not very good also. That's why so free come in to TCSS so much.

U dare come I dare to pay. All witness here. Ticket how much only seriously. :rolleyes:

555, sorry. My job is to go there and pay $$. I have people do the sourcing/selections. Maybe u need to read more carefully. And that was in the past. Nowadays, everything is pretty much in place as have people take care. I dun really need to handle except payments weekly to the coyotes.

Put time put place means gangster? Since u are so unhappy about it, so I was offering a alternative for u to settle the dispute mah. U really think I would whack your arse meh? Easily pay a few thousand baht to the touts/doormen can settle already if I want to. Lol. How old already? Dirty own hands. Forgot u small timer that's why business bad in Bkk and now china.

Funny guy really. One moment Suaning norice and suddenly switch sides. So much for your character. Over promised under deliver packages. Lousy agent. Please do something about your "ISOtravel" or change the name. No standard at all. :o

vbkk

06-01-2017, 07:08 AM

You are also out of touch with Thailand so please don't be like a pot calling the kettle black.

555 if you're not on the ground better not comment much if not some people will shoot you down if your opinions differ from his!

Busybody small boy tried to act cocky but buay tahan tio suan so become dulan and start playing pai kia (gangster) 555!

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

I believe many took it with stride when they posted their views and received positive feedback on their views/posts. I did not see anyone disagreeing when I posted updates/insights on the behind the scene which most are not aware of since I'm very much involved in the nightlife many are partaking. In fact I get points upped for the detailed insights most of the time. I dun go around upping people and hoping to get their points with 2k of TCSS posts. Seriously, does the points can redeem for flight to Bangkok? Points dun mean anything. It's the content of your individual posts that matter. Most of your posts are just Suaning people. That's what most cyberhero prefers to do behind the monitor.

Yup,I'm small boy. Me tio suan? U are the one petty over the whole issue. please dun talk so much waste bandwidth. U seriously do enjoy hiding behind the com like many said, and blast away. As I said, if u are not happy, u are welcome to thrash things out face to face. Dun trigger happy typing away. No time for that. :p

vbkk

06-01-2017, 07:21 AM

ybkk,

Greetings, from Belle Grand Condo!

You need to stop being argumentative and constantly contradicting other members' opinions! Even your opinions have important messages for members and also grounds for criticisms! Therefore, be more diplomatic when expressing your ideas and opinions!

If you want to discuss further, I want to meet you and David David at the Belle Grand food court in person and I'll buy you guys one of the most delicious wonton mee in Bangkok! We can discuss about the forum and living in Bangkok in general. Just PM me and we could meet. I won't be available from January 15 through 22. Have a nice day!

I have yet to see anyone indicating that the insights/updates are misleading or otherwise. Perhaps u could help us by identifying it. Please indicate so that I could learn from it seriously. ;)

I did remembered in the past I did asked if u wanted to meet. U came forward telling me u are only available daily from 1230pm-1300pm for just 30mins at some ridiculous coffee shop nearby. Thanks but No thanks! I seriously do not trust your recommendations on soapys/food. Bro Davvid would probably might want to meet u since u make him made a wasted trip to Catherine previously. Yup we could meet anywhere for drinks/club any day but I believe we are living different lifestyle as we said. U too have a nice day. Will be at pimp next Friday night. Do let me know if u can make it. Or any other days at cowboy/nana. ;)

hayhay

06-01-2017, 09:35 AM

Wow here like Vietnam thread, many arguing

anikisan

06-01-2017, 10:32 AM

norice

06-01-2017, 10:46 AM

Wow here like Vietnam thread, many arguing

ybkk,

No, I don't go to The Pimp! For get it, read my reply again!

The bottom line is try to be "DIPLOMATIC" when replying to other members!

norice

06-01-2017, 11:52 AM

55055,

This is nothing, you should go to Syria!

I'll be visiting HCM on February 5 through 12, staying at The Luxe Hotel! Any argument over that hotel?

lost99

06-01-2017, 12:16 PM

Bros dun fight leow la...we have to be united .....in order to band together to fight the puyings who want to rip us off ah hahaha

I don't consider this 'fighting' just two people arguing different opinions, and perhaps representing different sides of the 'puyings who want to rip us off', this will blow over soon and you can make whatever information you want out of it.

55055 is right, this is nothing compared to the HCMC thread, but that was a case of a psychotic sociopath TomMAlfotter/Mutant Chicken polluting the thread.

I'll be visiting HCM on February 5 through 12, staying at The Luxe Hotel! Any argument over that hotel?

I don't believe Luxe Hotel is girl friendly (if you planning to dabao), usually only 1-2 star HCMC hotels are guest friendly. When i went to HCMC i just booked a room via AirBnB so I didn't need to worry about stupid police checks rules about bringing girls back.

norice

06-01-2017, 01:16 PM

Lost99,

One of forum member stayed there and he said, "it's a girl friendly hotel!"
Honorable mating 36 told me, "the Luxe hotel is girl friendly hotel!" thank goodness.

vbkk

06-01-2017, 01:45 PM

Bros dun fight leow la...we have to be united and share info - good or bad, zhun or not so zhun - in order to band together to fight the puyings who want to rip us off ah hahaha

peace...conquer more quality pussies at reduced costs!!! LOL

I apologised to the bros reading the thread for the excessive redundant lengthy irrelevant posts that I might had created yesterday. For the fact that I would prefer everyone including myself to be able to post info/FRs relevant/related to the Bangkok scene. Anyway, it's really pointless to carry on debating as friends had already told me it would not get anywhere but only wasting precious time/bandwidth. :o what matters really is the quality of the posts created and not quantity. No point degrading myself to such a level. Peace! ;)

TonyCheong2

06-01-2017, 02:59 PM

I thought u do come to Bangkok often? Or ever since 2014 u stopped? Agent business not so good so shifted base to china? Heard that agent business in China also not very good also. That's why so free come in to TCSS so much.

U dare come I dare to pay. All witness here. Ticket how much only seriously. :rolleyes:

555, sorry. My job is to go there and pay $$. I have people do the sourcing/selections. Maybe u need to read more carefully. And that was in the past. Nowadays, everything is pretty much in place as have people take care. I dun really need to handle except payments weekly to the coyotes.

Put time put place means gangster? Since u are so unhappy about it, so I was offering a alternative for u to settle the dispute mah. U really think I would whack your arse meh? Easily pay a few thousand baht to the touts/doormen can settle already if I want to. Lol. How old already? Dirty own hands. Forgot u small timer that's why business bad in Bkk and now china.

Funny guy really. One moment Suaning norice and suddenly switch sides. So much for your character. Over promised under deliver packages. Lousy agent. Please do something about your "ISOtravel" or change the name. No standard at all. :o

So long winded.
Not interested to read your hao lian stories about your job. :p

You are an idiot since when I started my work in Bangkok then shift to China?
Bro lost99 can vouch for that.

Also where you come out with the years I'm active in Bangkok?
When I'm still very active cheonging in Bangkok I think you're still doing push ups in an Army camp.
You must be part of that group of clowns that got flamed by many bros and quietly disappeared.

Why are you talking about agent stuff?
Are you subtly promoting your hao lian big agent business?
Want to promote your own business or any business please pay advertisement fee to SBF first.

Mod please PM vbkk for advertisement fees.
He keep talking about agent stuff so please don't implicate me.
I have nothing to do with his promotion. :D

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

TonyCheong2

06-01-2017, 03:02 PM

I believe many took it with stride when they posted their views and received positive feedback on their views/posts. I did not see anyone disagreeing when I posted updates/insights on the behind the scene which most are not aware of since I'm very much involved in the nightlife many are partaking. In fact I get points upped for the detailed insights most of the time. I dun go around upping people and hoping to get their points with 2k of TCSS posts. Seriously, does the points can redeem for flight to Bangkok? Points dun mean anything. It's the content of your individual posts that matter. Most of your posts are just Suaning people. That's what most cyberhero prefers to do behind the monitor.

Yup,I'm small boy. Me tio suan? U are the one petty over the whole issue. please dun talk so much waste bandwidth. U seriously do enjoy hiding behind the com like many said, and blast away. As I said, if u are not happy, u are welcome to thrash things out face to face. Dun trigger happy typing away. No time for that. :p

Reply your this post briefly in case you say I siam which you are expert in.

Small boy is really small boy.
Talk and behave like a pesky and whiny kid playing football under a HDB void deck.
Keep kicking the ball to the wall then one day the ball bounced back so hard and smash onto his face then started to cry 555! :D

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

TonyCheong2

06-01-2017, 03:08 PM

I apologised to the bros reading the thread for the excessive redundant lengthy irrelevant posts that I might had created yesterday. For the fact that I would prefer everyone including myself to be able to post info/FRs relevant/related to the Bangkok scene. Anyway, it's really pointless to carry on debating as friends had already told me it would not get anywhere but only wasting precious time/bandwidth. :o what matters really is the quality of the posts created and not quantity. No point degrading myself to such a level. Peace! ;)

Dare to flame people but no balls to carry on the shit you started.
Your group of so called friends are the same like you just a bunch of wimps.

Are you their mouthpiece or those so called friends don't actually exist at all.
You just make it sound like you have some support that's all. :D

Just admit you're a blardy pussy 55555! :p

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

hayhay

06-01-2017, 03:14 PM

Bro tonycheong2, he already apologize lah, peace lah, I buy you beer next time we meet. Peace bro bkk thread is a nice thread be in everyone helpful

TonyCheong2

06-01-2017, 03:25 PM

Bro tonycheong2, he already apologize lah, peace lah, I buy you beer next time we meet.

Bro hayhay,

Sorry hor he apologised to others but not me for stepping on my tail. :p

He's the one that started this tirade by naming me out and subsequently escalate furthur by talking about agent stuff and personal matters.
You really believe he is sincere or just a pussy with a cb gossip mouth like a Thai puying? :p

This forum belongs to SBF board of directors and not vbkk to dictate what can be posted or not.
If vbkk is not happy how a public commercial sex forum operates he can choose to leave this forum.
Likewise if he wants to promote his or other people's agent business he can support SBF by contacting Mod to pay advertisement fees. :D

Thanks for the beer offer though. :)

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

vbkk

06-01-2017, 03:27 PM

So long winded.
Not interested to read your hao lian stories about your job.

You are an idiot since when I started my work in Bangkok then shift to China?
Bro lost99 can vouch for that.

Also where you come out with the years I'm active in Bangkok?
When I'm still very active cheonging in Bangkok I think you're still doing push ups in an Army camp.
You must be part of that group of clowns that got flamed by many bros and quietly disappeared.

Want to promote your own business or any business please pay advertisement fee to SBF first.

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

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ISO travel? U indirectly promoting your business by quoting your WeChat on your profile. Speak for yourself instead about paying advertisement fees.

Yup delusional. I have been traveling to Bangkok for the past 13 years. Being new here does not mean new to Bangkok. Being a veteran in the forum does not mean he knows everything. Lol

vbkk

06-01-2017, 03:34 PM

Bro tonycheong2, he already apologize lah, peace lah, I buy you beer next time we meet. Peace bro bkk thread is a nice thread be in everyone helpful

I apologised for the fact I replied to his posts and created redundant irrelevant posts. But not to him. :p

Bro hayhay,

Sorry hor he apologised to others but not me for stepping on my tail.

He's the one that started this tirade by naming me out and subsequently escalate furthur by talking about agent stuff and personal matters.
You really believe he is sincere or just a pussy with a cb gossip mouth like a Thai puying?

Thanks for the beer offer though.

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

Is it a mere concidence that u happen to be using the same WeChat as "$$$$$$$$$$" / "ISOtravel"? :rolleyes:

Did u pay advertisement fees like u always like to quote in your post then?

TonyCheong2

06-01-2017, 03:41 PM

Is it a mere concidence that u happen to be using the same WeChat as "$$$$$$$$$$" / "ISOtravel"? :rolleyes:

Did u pay advertisement fees like u always like to quote in your post then?

To Mod,

I just removed my WeChat ID if it is not allowed in SBF.
This vbkk just want to sabo me.

Please ask him why yourself why he keep promoting other websites? :D

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

vbkk

06-01-2017, 03:41 PM

So long winded.
Not interested to read your hao lian stories about your job.

You are an idiot since when I started my work in Bangkok then shift to China?
Bro lost99 can vouch for that.

Also where you come out with the years I'm active in Bangkok?
When I'm still very active cheonging in Bangkok I think you're still doing push ups in an Army camp.
You must be part of that group of clowns that got flamed by many bros and quietly disappeared.

Why are you talking about agent stuff?
Are you subtly promoting your hao lian big agent business?
Want to promote your own business or any business please pay advertisement fee to SBF first.

Mod please PM vbkk for advertisement fees.
He keep talking about agent stuff so please don't implicate me.
I have nothing to do with his promotion.

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

Quote u as well. Yup I supply coyotes to bars in Bangkok. But I dun supply to individuals/customers. I had never supply any girls to anyone here in this forum. They are free to patronise any bars in Bangkok and please dun embarrass yourself further with lack of knowledge.

Coyote modelling agent - do not earn comm from lady drinks/barfines from customers entering the bar. The bars get the full comm. Go ask your contacts in Bangkok how it works here. ;)

naemlo

06-01-2017, 04:04 PM

Bro tonycheong2, he already apologize lah, peace lah, I buy you beer next time we meet. Peace bro bkk thread is a nice thread be in everyone helpful

If I come n put 1 leg, any free beer for me??? :D

Naka_Timo

06-01-2017, 04:11 PM

To Mod,

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Quote u as well. Yup I supply coyotes to bars in customers entering the bar. The bars get the full comm. Go ask your contacts in Bangkok how it works here. ;)

Bros chillz and peace.....

Make love, and make peace.. not war :p

Allanooi

06-01-2017, 04:12 PM

Got popcorns and candyfloss boh? I quit drinking lol only drink fresh milk:D

hayhay

06-01-2017, 04:13 PM

If I come n put 1 leg, any free beer for me??? :D

Can lah, no problem, I always buy first two round beer when meet new brother

lostboyz

06-01-2017, 04:22 PM

hey guys, can anyone confirm that scratch dog is closed down already? I'm flying over tonight.

kelthai

06-01-2017, 04:25 PM

share my photo of nice food in bangkok :)

https://i.imgsafe.org/f5379842c3.jpg

vbkk

06-01-2017, 04:25 PM

hey guys, can anyone confirm that scratch dog is closed down already? I'm flying over tonight.

It's open. But close early than usual. ;)

vbkk

06-01-2017, 04:32 PM

Bros chillz and peace.....

Make love, and make peace.. not war

Sorry bro. I had nothing against this guy really. I dun even know him in person. But I have friends who know him and know of his services in Bkk/china. He blatantly said that he never work agent in Thailand and hence currently ktv package agent in china. I meant well u can do whatever u like it's none of my business. But he lied thru his teeth posting like this. For those who are interested in booking his services in china, please do consider! Dodgy agent who is tries to hide things. Not to mention expensive and lousy services. And now goes around accusing others saying as agents. Oh please really ;)

Property Agent / car agent also agents! Are they allowed on this forum as well? Anyway in thai , we dun call "coyote agent". It's called "coyote modelling". So u won't get so worked up. ;)

Heyitsmeman

06-01-2017, 04:39 PM

hey guys, can anyone confirm that scratch dog is closed down already? I'm flying over tonight.

Open everyday, last week I went close around 4.

lostboyz

06-01-2017, 04:43 PM

It's open. But close early than usual. ;)

Open everyday, last week I went close around 4.

Thanks lot bro for the heads up.

vbkk

06-01-2017, 04:52 PM

share my photo of nice food in bangkok

https://i.imgsafe.org/f5379842c3.jpg

555, that really got me laughing! Create a new nick so fast to post my WeChat moments. I'm very impressed and honoured by your persistence. No worry I won't block my WeChat moments. ;)

lost99

06-01-2017, 05:25 PM

Sorry bro. I had nothing against this guy really. I dun even know him in person. ..... Dodgy who is tries to hide things. Not to mention expensive and lousy . And now goes around accusing others saying as agents. Oh please really ;)

Vbkk, I'm sorry but at this point I have to step in and strongly disagree with you. I haven't met you but i have met Tony in China before many times, dating back almost 10 years ago. He has always been reliable, honest, and forthcoming person with me and i have no complaints with him whatsoever. In fact if i have friends goto China i still recommend them to contact Tony for advice; I would not do that if what you said above was true. Since you admit you've never met him personally, all these accusation you have of him must be considered hearsay and not reliable as evidence.

I don't wish that both of you keep fighting here when the purpose of this forum is to share useful Thailand Info, and has gotten to the point of you guys trying to one up each other. However this started, it takes both parties to end it, if you want to do your part to end it you may, but based on the comments above it doesn't look like you wanna let it go.

lost99

06-01-2017, 05:50 PM

I supply coyotes to bars in Bangkok. But I dun supply to individuals/customers....They are free to patronise any bars in Bangkok and please dun embarrass yourself further with lack of knowledge.

Coyote modelling agent - do not earn comm from lady drinks/barfines from customers entering the bar. The bars get the full comm. Go ask your contacts in Bangkok how it works here. ;)

I think this was the core of the dispute. Even though you are not exclusively involved with any particular GoGo, you are still involved in the Coyote delivery 'chain' and thus benefit from the success of Coyote-themed Agogo's. I think most bros (myself included) don't like the concept of Coyote's as they are deceitful and just try to get LDs from customer but cannot be barfined. Since you financially benefit from the success of Coyote Bars (the Arab bars correct?), it can make your views on the matter seem biased, even if you don't promote a specific Gogo or profit from individual LDs. Please correct me if i am wrong? I am not trying to undermine you or enter this argument, but just give you an opportunity to explain so you can end this squabble once and for all.

vbkk

06-01-2017, 05:57 PM

Vbkk, I'm sorry but at this point I have to step in and strongly disagree with you. I haven't met you but i have met Tony in China before many times, dating back almost 10 years ago. He has always been reliable, honest, and forthcoming with me and i have no complaints with him whatsoever. In fact if i have friends goto China i still recommend them to contact Tony for advice; I would not do that if what you said above was true. Since you admit you've never met him personally, all these accusation you have of him must be considered hearsay and not reliable as evidence.

I say this respectfully, as admittedly I haven't met you, but I believe the initial misunderstanding was concerning your business in Thailand which sounded a bit suspicious . I think most bro's (myself included) hate the concept of Coyotes and consider them deceitful as they only hook customers in to buy drinks, but can't be barfined. Even if you not involved with an exclusive bar or the LD stage your involvement in the Coyote chain can make some of your Agogo bar views look suspect. However, i'll reserve judgement and give you the opportunity to explain if you want to - there are 2 sides to every story. But i believe this was the core of the squabble or mistrust.

I don't wish that both of you keep fighting here when the purpose of this forum is to share useful Thailand Info, and has gotten to the point of you guys trying to expose each other. However this started, it takes both parties to end it, if you want to do your part to end it you may, but based on the comments above it doesn't look like you wanna let it go.

Coyote concept is very much alike gentleman club style. Except u dun have to pay large amount to enjoy some rubba in the bars. U or your friends might not like the idea of it but I believe many does. If not coyote concept will be sprung over from cowboy to nana and now even patpong over the recent years! If it's not welcomed, certainly bar owners will not pay huge salary to engage coyote modelling as well as coyotes to bring in the customers. There are coyote bars with barfine concept.

Some prefer to go for freelance. Some prefer go to coyote bars/agogo bars. Some prefer sitting/drinking with pretty girls at gentleman clubs. I believe there's a market for everyone in Bangkok. So by saying that many dislike coyote concept is rather misleading. There are less than 10 authentic 100% agogo bars in Nana/cowboy/patpong compared to the past. ;)

For those who dislike coyotes concepts, there will be ones who love it. In life, u can't have best of everything. Like u may have enjoyed tony's companion/service, there will also be ones who did not. This is life.

I did not need to expose whether he is a agent or not or bring in friends to vouch anything. I believe many can see whether is he a ktv/club agent as much as he denied it but his WeChat/websites said it all. The fact he said he did not provide any such service/work in Bangkok/china.

Based on the attempt of creating a new nick "kelthai" and posting my WeChat moments, goes to show how immature he can be. :rolleyes:

His websites are easily accessible through Google. But by creating a new nick and posting WeChat moments, he had sort of "betray" a mutual trust in between two consenting adults ( friends/acquaintance ) by sharing on a public forum. So who is despicable ?

Please dun come tell me this new nick created today 1 post is someone else? Use your buttocks also can know who created that nick. Why dun use original nick to post?

So who is the one who does not want to let go? :rolleyes:

vbkk

06-01-2017, 06:01 PM

I think this was the core of the dispute. Even though you are not exclusively involved with any particular GoGo, you are still involved in the Coyote delivery 'chain' and thus benefit from the success of Coyote-themed Agogo's. I think most bros (myself included) don't like the concept of Coyote's as they are deceitful and just try to get LDs from customer but cannot be barfined. Since you financially benefit from the success of Coyote Bars (the Arab bars correct?), it can make your views on the matter seem biased, even if you don't promote a specific Gogo or profit from individual LDs. Please correct me if i am wrong? I am not trying to undermine you or enter this argument, but just give you an opportunity to explain so you can end this squabble once and for all.

My views/posts on the behind the scene and the breakdown on how things works for coyote bars are purely for everyone to better understand how the drinks system/barfine works and how the bar operates. U can go back and read and quote me on which post that might seems biased which was never brought up until today by yourself perhaps? :p

ChiefPilot

06-01-2017, 06:05 PM

Quote u as well. Yup I supply coyotes to bars in Bangkok. But I dun supply to individuals/customers. I had never supply any girls to anyone here in this forum. They are free to patronise any bars in Bangkok and please dun embarrass yourself further with lack of knowledge.

Coyote modelling agent - do not earn comm from lady drinks/barfines from customers entering the bar. The bars get the full comm. Go ask your contacts in Bangkok how it works here. ;)

james... instead of fighting with tony why you not help me find that cheeby sapsinmike? I give you 30% commission if sapsinmike return the debts he owe me...:cool:

TonyCheong2

06-01-2017, 06:14 PM

If I come n put 1 leg, any free beer for me???

555 you all very good hor.
Camping here to see free show of some busybody and cocky people post his business stories and autobiography in Bangkok. :p

Got popcorns and candyfloss boh? I quit drinking lol only drink fresh milk:D

After come back from Jakarta quit drinking alcohol? :confused:

Indo cewek susu must be damn power! :eek:

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

naemlo

07-01-2017, 12:06 AM

james... instead of fighting with tony why you not help me find that cheeby sapsinmike? I give you 30% commission if sapsinmike return the debts he owe me...:cool:

I am curious....Sounded like u ah bang, ah bang with vbkk, why not whatsapp, line, wechat, whatever IM with him directly for this? :confused:

naemlo

07-01-2017, 12:08 AM

555 you all very good hor.
Camping here to see free show of some busybody and cocky people post his business stories and autobiography in Bangkok. :p

Come in peace as long my tail is not purposely flatten... :D

kelthai

07-01-2017, 03:42 AM

share some lovely bar gals photo ;)

https://i.imgsafe.org/ff14a6bcdf.jpg

lost99

07-01-2017, 03:57 AM

Coyote concept....U or your friends might not like the idea of it but I believe many does. If not coyote concept will be sprung over from cowboy to nana and now even patpong over the recent years! If it's not welcomed, certainly bar owners will not pay huge salary to engage coyote modelling as well as coyotes to bring in the customers. There are coyote bars with barfine concept.

Well, the same logic applies to the Tuk-Tuk scams, Wat Po temple scams, Ping Pong show scams, and Thai jewels scam....these things also spread and continue after so many years not because people enjoy it, but because they are effective in deceiving money from tourists.

Maybe i am in the minority, but to my memory I have never heard another seasoned member here say they truly 'enjoy' the Coyote concept in Thailand, where they can buy LDs with no option to barfine (or super expensive barfine for some Coyotes). For me this entirely defeat the purpose of a Gogo bar. Especially when they are mixed with normal Agogo girl bars, it just makes it confusing who you can barfine and which girl is a waste of your LDs. For this reason, it seems like bros here preach against those Arab Run bars because they mainly use the Coyote strategy against tourists without clearly telling them, who think they can barfine the girl. But again, maybe i am in the minority, and maybe i am out of touch with Thailand and what Bros here enjoy.

vbkk

07-01-2017, 06:36 AM

Well, the same logic applies to the Tuk-Tuk scams, Wat Po temple scams, Ping Pong show scams, and Thai jewels scam....these things also spread and continue after so many years not because people enjoy it, but because they are effective in deceiving money from tourists.

Maybe i am in the minority, but to my memory I have never heard another seasoned member here say they truly 'enjoy' the Coyote concept in Thailand, where they can buy LDs with no option to barfine (or super expensive barfine for some Coyotes). For me this entirely defeat the purpose of a Gogo bar. Especially when they are mixed with normal Agogo girl bars, it just makes it confusing who you can barfine and which girl is a waste of your LDs. For this reason, it seems like bros here preach against those Arab Run bars because they mainly use the Coyote strategy against tourists without clearly telling them, who think they can barfine the girl. But again, maybe i am in the minority, and maybe i am out of touch with Thailand and what Bros here enjoy.

Majority of the real players/spenders on this forum/Singaporeans dun bother to post here. Because of the way the forum become, most dun really bothers to post FRs after their trips.

Unfortunately it's the era of coyote bars. U said many on the forum opposed/dislike coyotes bars. Are u saying it represents the majority of Singaporeans that patronised nana/cowboy? Hundreds and hundreds of Singaporeans pour into nana/cowboy every night. Even there's a hundred of disgruntled forumers who condemn coyote bars. There is no doubt that hundreds of Singaporeans pour into the cowboy/nana every night. Many years ago, coyotes was a novelty. Nowadays, 75% of the bars are coyotes or mixed coyotes/agogo girls.

Just a handful of agogo bars left to choose from. Mainly baccara,crazy house from cowboy , rainbow 1,2,3,5, spanky,Angelwitch are probably the only ones with 100% agogo concept.

It's not confusing to most who are used to the cowboy/nana scene. Maybe for urself. But agogo girls are the one wearing bikini. Coyotes are the ones with theme costume or sexy short pants. If u are still unsure which bars are which, u could easily have asked here. I believe there are still helpful bros who will answer your query. Or u can just ask the waitress in the bar to explain the difference. So what's the confusing part?

Who ever says u need to buy many LDs to barfine a coyote out? I have seen coyotes going out with customers just like any normal agogo bar style after buying 1-2 lady drinks. Even in agogo bar concept, I have seen generous customers buying trays of tequila for a agogo girl and then later barfine her. It's called building up the chemistry and getting the girl into the mood. ;)

If customers are refusing the idea/concept of coyotes like u said, bars would not be paying high salary to engage coyote modelling as well as coyotes.

A little background info - agogo girl earns roughly 300baht for a day of work without barfine/drinks. A coyote is paid from 500-1200baht ( depends on which bar ) for a day of work without barfine/drinks.

If business model for coyote is bad and losing money, why would a bar owner pay 2-4 times salary for a girl? U may find it silly to buy lady drinks for a coyote. Then I would suggest going to soapys better. Straight simple transaction. No offence. No barfine. Free usage of room. No need buy ladydrinks.

U maybe feel wasteful to buy LDs for coyotes. But there's plenty of Singaporeans who goes to g club like Pimp, Villa , Sherbet ,Aladdin , Tomorrowland , Monte Carlo ( to name a few ) to spend thousands of baht a night to chill.

Conclusion - u have either have to keep up with the everchanging style. Coyote bars, gentleman clubs as well as pretty pubs where u buy tequila drinks for PRs to come sit and chat with u. If u feel wasteful, just stick to baccara and rainbow group agogo bars while they last. Even baccara , they are setting the LT time period at 4 hours unofficially. 6k LT + 1k BF = 7k. Why are there complains of expensive but baccara is still so popular? It may seems expensive for some but there are still many who willing to spend that kind of money.

U are not out of touch. U are just still stuck to 10 years ago concept. Where 80% of the bars in Bangkok are agogo bars. 10 years back, a LT at rainbow bar is only 3k baht and the girl stay till noon.

A coyote can hit 200+ LDs on a 15 day tag work at a coyote bar. That averages to at least 13LDs a night. Also on weekends like Friday and Saturdays, some girls can hit 25-35 LDs a night. If customers are not willing to patronise such concept/bars/coyotes, it would not be substainable for them to pay high salary to the girls.

Also there are customers who are willing to barfine a girl out to cheong disco and pay them 2k-3k without bonking them and release them back by 3am? As much as u are not willing to spend that kind of money, I personally have met and seen many Singaporeans who are willing to spend.

Like someone said on this forum, dun blame the inflation/expensive rates, blame yourself for not earning more.

These are entirely views from another perspective. ;)

lost99

07-01-2017, 06:58 AM

vbkk

07-01-2017, 08:26 AM

I don't think its a good argument to say that people 'want' Coyote bars because most bars now are infested with Coyotes, and owners willing to pay extra to get Coyote Dancers on stage to attract customers. Most Buddist temples are infested with 'scam' tuk-tuks in front of it, most local tours force you to goto fake Thai Jewel Factory or Thai tailor store, but this is not done for the benefit of the customer, but rather for the owners to try force you to buy something you don't want, and unfortunately it works on many tourists, which is why they keep doing it and it become more popular.

The gogo bars are usually freuqented entirely by tourists and not locals, many who come just a single time and unaware of differences between Gogo dancer and Coyote. This is entirely different from a G-Club where most patrons are locals or repeat tourists customers who understand it is different concept (cannot barfine etc..). Your comparision between Gogo Bar and G-Club is not appropriate because the clientele and the expectations from each club is totally different. IMO Coyote dancer mixed with Gogo dancers is confusing and i'm not the only one who thinks so:

"The Confusing Coyote Concept....There has been something of a backlash by Western customers in the likes of Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza against coyote dancers because sometimes it isn't clear who the coyote girls are and who the gogo dancers are. ...there has been a noticeable trend in emails from readers who feel deceived after spending an hour or two getting to know a girl only to be told that she is not available....Lady drinks for coyote dancers typically attract a premium of anywhere between 20 and 100 baht more per drink." https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly-column/2012/11/the-confusing-coyote-concept/

Also, the issue I have is not with my money and Salary, i am willing to bet my Salary is much more than the average tourist and perhaps yourself if i can afford to take time away from my business and Fly to Asia 5x's per year from USA just to party using my own money (not company expense account), each trip spending thousands of dollars. The issue i have is the principle of deceit posed by Coyotes mixed with Agogos which can scam unsuspecting tourists. Even Billionaire Donald Trump refuse to get swindled or into a bad deal no matter the cost ""You can't con people, at least not for long. You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you don't deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on."" It is not a question of Salary, earning more, or spending power, it is the principle of deceit and false advertising. As far as i know, none of these Gogo bars put signs up Clearly explaining which girls are coyotes, and which cost more for LD and can't barfine, or make any real effor to explain before i start ordering drinks. When i walk into a Brothel (which essentially a Gogo bar is, no matter what anyone here thinks) i expect that every girl there is available for sex, and if i spend time and money on a girl only to find out she is not avaialable i would be very pissed. I don't think your average tourist patron would know that sexy shorts = Coyote, and sexy bikini=Gogo, and if the Gogo bars clearly cared to inform us they could, but they don't. At the end of the day, it just looks like a low-grade tourist trap scam to me.

I respect you have a different view, but clearly, you are financially motivated to have this view, and i understand that. However, despite your claims have not personally heard another Bro here say they enjoy the Coyote Concept and find it good value, whereas i have heard many complaints here against Coyotes and Arab bars that use Coyote's to rip of customers. If there is another respected brother here who loves Coyote Dancers, and does not find them confusing when mixed in SC or SN, please let him speak up, and i will take back this view. . We are welcome to their own views and opinions, but right now you are the only voice i hear on this forum that support the Coyotes, and i have heard many people have opposite view.

It's funny how u compare coyotes concept with the scams of Temples/Jewellery. Lol.

Most of the bars for your info do not allow local Thais. With a few exception unless accompanied by a foreigner. I'm not sure about your knowledge or mileage about the bars at nana/cowboy since it's ain't hard to differentiate or like I said to know the difference between a coyote and agogo bar.

What makes u think that most of the customers are in for a ride whenever they enter a coyote bar? I would say a lot of the customers who goes to a coyote bar because they are repeated customers and regulars. Lol.

I have nothing against westerners but dun u think it's hard even to ask anyone in the bar if the girls are barfineable/ price of barfine/ lady drink price / is the girl available.

Would MOST really be that stupid to go into a bar and start randomly order many sets of ladydrinks for an hour and only to realise that all he could have done to save himself all that unnecessary if he could just asked?

U make it sound like those scams bars at patpong where u order a drink and then need to pay 3-10k baht to be able to leave.

It's good that u are able to earn much more than the average tourist. But if u felt compelled to spend ladydrinks ( perhaps not your style ), nothing going to stop u from not entering any coyote bars. Just like some do not like soapys. Some do not like going clubs like onyx to drink. Different people have different preferences.

It's a basic for anyone who is planning to go somewhere in a foreign country to do some ground check on the place they intend to go. Failing to plan is sure to fail. So u are saying it's the bar responsibility to put up a sign in different languages for those who came unprepared?

U said u expect every girl is available for sex. Even in a agogo bar, a girl have the right to refuse to go with a particular customer if she is not comfortable to go with him. Let alone a coyote bar. No offence but the way u put it ,seems like what my friends told me in China ktv, all the girls are readily available for sex as Long as "show me the money". Hello. This is Bangkok. Nana/cowboy dun work this way. Not even 10 years ago. If u want girls available for sex, soapy is the place u can go. The girls sitting there are all ready to be bonked as Long as u pay.

Financially motivated? Even if the coyote bars have not a single customer, Nor the girls can't make a single LD or barfine, I still get 100% Not more Not less Comm for each girl I supplied. Lol. There's no difference for me 365 days even there's only just 1 pathetic customer sitting there sipping a drink for hours for the whole night.

Why would we need any respected brother here for any case, to come forward to attest his like for that? Do u need a voting system for it as well? As much as u might detest the coyote concept, there are plenty of Japan/farang as well as Singaporeans patronising nana/cowboy every night. Even if there's 9 bros who came forward, does it mean 9/10 tourists enjoyed coyote bars?

The point is very simple. U walk into a particular bar with interest. U take a look at the showcase when u entered the door. U can always leave if u dun find anyone who catches your eye. No one can force u to buy 10s of LDs if there's a ugly old fat sh*t sitting next to u rubbing your crotch. Dun come cry foul when the girl refused to go ST/LT with u but decided to go off with a young good looking customer mins later. It happens even in a agogo bar like baccara.

Does baccara put up a SIGN that says " most of my agogo employees only prefer to go ST instead of LT. Preferably Japan customers. standard barfine - 600A+2LDS. LT - 4 hours." As myself, I did not see that. But despite many disapprove of how expensive and ridiculous it may seem at baccara, it's still attracts lots of customers.

Last but not least, if u have the mindset that the girls u see must be available for anyone for sex , there's only one place. Massage parlours. Agogo bars girls also have the right to refuse to go with u but the next moment go off with a Japan customer. M I right to say that agogo bars also deceive customers to believe that all their girls have to go ST/LT as per requested by any customer without the right to refuse? They should also put signs in all different languages particular in Chinese. As I have seen many girls rejecting going with China tourists. Please let me know your views on the agogo bars.

lost99

07-01-2017, 10:10 AM

It's funny how u compare coyotes concept with the scams of Temples/Jewellery. Lol. U make it sound like those scams bars at patpong where u order a drink and then need to pay 3-10k baht to be able to leave.

Why is it funny? A scam is a scam is a scam correct? no matter how big or small or deceptive. Dishonesty is all the same in my book.

I have nothing against westerners but dun u think it's hard even to ask anyone in the bar if the girls are barfineable/ price of barfine/ lady drink price / is the girl available.

Would MOST really be that stupid to go into a bar and start randomly order many sets of ladydrinks for an hour and only to realise that all he could have done to save himself all that unnecessary if he could just asked?

If you read the above quotes, yes, many tourists have been scammed in Coyote bars, with 'bill padding' and thinking they can barfine the Coyote only to be dissapoint. If the bars care more about customer service, they should tell the customer this, but they don't. You blame the customer for not asking, but if you walk into a restaurant and order a coke and get charged $300 baht, is it your fault for not 'asking' the price of a Coke? There's a fine line between reasonable customer expectations and a scam, and for me Coyote bars cross that line.

It's a basic for anyone who is planning to go somewhere in a foreign country to do some ground check on the place they intend to go. Failing to plan is sure to fail. So u are saying it's the bar responsibility to put up a sign in different languages for those who came unprepared?

There is no obligation for bars to put up a sign explaining anything. In fact, it seems like you put the onus entirely on the customer to research everything and take full responsibility, while the bar takes no responsiblity. A restaurant does not need to put prices on their menu, its their choice to be honest and forthingcoming if they want. But ones that do not and proceed to overcharge customer is a deceptive practice. Do you blame the restaurant in this case, or the customer for not asking? Whatever your view, any restaurant that have this kind of additude and business practice is a scam in my books.

U said u expect every girl is available for sex. Even in a agogo bar, a girl have the right to refuse to go with a particular customer if she is not comfortable to go with him.

There is a difference between 'available' and 'forced'. Coyote girls are typically not available, but are marketed in a way to appear that they are. None of your arugments address this core deceptive issue. You keep arguing peripheral points which don't address the core deceptive practice of Coyote bars. This has nothing to do with China KTV, money or spending.

Financially motivated? Even if the coyote bars have not a single customer, Nor the girls can't make a single LD or barfine, I still get 100% Not more Not less Comm for each girl I supplied. Lol. There's no difference for me 365 days even there's only just 1 pathetic customer sitting there sipping a drink for hours for the whole night.

You get 100% in the short term, but in the Long-term, if no customers in Coyote bars, surely your business will be affected and you will lose profits from bars booking your ladies. How can you even argue you aren't financially motivated to support Coyote Bars? I'm sorry this is the worst argument you have made.

Why would we need any respected brother here for any case, to come forward to attest his like for that? Do u need a voting system for it as well? As much as u might detest the coyote concept, there are plenty of Japan/farang as well as Singaporeans patronising nana/cowboy every night.

Because this is not SG where only the PAP can produce their propaganda and silence and drown the general public with their narrow views, and tell the people how they should think. So far only you seem to praise Coyote Bars, but you are obviously biased to do so. Those Farangs/Japs that visit SC/NP, do they go there looking for Coyotes or Gogo dancers? do they visit the Coyote bars by mistake thinking they are gogo bars where you can barfine? Obviously they visit famous places like Baccarra but this is a Gogo Bar not Coyote. This is why i am interested in hearing other opinions that are not biased. You seem to confuse the popularity of Gogo places like Baccarra with pure Coyote Bars... which i don't hear similar praise and popularity.

Does baccara put up a SIGN that says " most of my agogo employees only prefer to go ST instead of LT. Preferably Japan customers. standard barfine - 600A+2LDS. LT - 4 hours." As myself, I did not see that. But despite many disapprove of how expensive and ridiculous it may seem at baccara, it's still attracts lots of customers.

Why do you keep confusing Bacarra and Coyote Bar? Bacarra is clearly a Gogo bar where you can barfine any girl there. The issue is not how popular/expensive Baccara is. The issue I have is the depceptive practice of Coyote's and Coyote Bars like the Arab bars. All your response have failed to address this clearly.

Last but not least, if u have the mindset that the girls u see must be available for anyone for sex , there's only one place. Massage parlours. Agogo bars girls also have the right to refuse to go with u but the next moment go off with a Japan customer. M I right to say that agogo bars also deceive customers to believe that all their girls have to go ST/LT as per requested by any customer without the right to refuse? They should also put signs in all different languages particular in Chinese. As I have seen many girls rejecting going with China tourists. Please let me know your views on the agogo bars.

Again, the issue is not Agogo bars, and you seem to confuse their business practices and that of Coyote Bars such as Arab bars. My complaint is the Coyote bars deceptively 'blur' the options of different girls, and deliberately do a bad job of advising the customer to make more profits. Your arugments seem to blame the customer for not clearly 'asking'. If this is your business model i feel bad for you, in my business i clearly tell my customer all my charges and fees so they are not upset or disappointed and they come back as repeat customer. Maybe this is the reason local Thais are not allowed in Coyote bars because they would be upset with this dishonestly and cause a scene in the bar - I can't think of any other industry that would discriminate against their own people in their own country! Personally, I never blame my customers in my business for not asking things, i consider it my job to be honest and put their satisfaction first.

VBKK, there is no point continuing this argument with you, and i will stop now because you feel strong and stubborn on this issue, and confuse the argument with other issues that don't address the core issue i have described. This is why i wish to hear the views of others to see what they think, but you don't t that is necessary. Again, i think it is very revealing that not a single other person here say they like the infestation of Coyotes, while many other bros clearly dislike it. Just because SC has evolved to this style does not mean that its what the people like/want.

Allanooi

07-01-2017, 10:15 AM

555 you all very good hor.
Camping here to see free show of some busybody and cocky people post his business stories and autobiography in Bangkok. :p

After come back from Jakarta quit drinking alcohol? :confused:

Indo cewek susu must be damn power! :eek:

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

Power konkek la susu slurp slurp china good or not I heard mixed voices but more that is more ex and fun factors lesser than in President Hu era... but President Jiang era then the best girls can con to bed using singapore passport or give them fake Rolex lol

Naka_Timo

07-01-2017, 12:46 PM

Power konkek la susu slurp slurp china good or not I heard mixed voices but more that is more ex and fun factors lesser than in President Hu era... but President Jiang era then the best girls can con to bed using singapore passport or give them fake Rolex lol

Long time no see, u now quit smoking.. which is good.

Got become more yan dao from the konkek susu :p :D

Allanooi

07-01-2017, 12:54 PM

Long time no see, u now quit smoking.. which is good.

Got become more yan dao from the konkek susu :p :D

I quit drinking not smoking lol still let ceweks suck my cigar!

ahtecklim

07-01-2017, 01:08 PM

Maybe i am in the minority, but to my memory I have never heard another seasoned member here say they truly 'enjoy' the Coyote concept in Thailand, .

There is time and place for everything. After a few STs , I love going to bars to get drunk and have some eye candy with ZERO intention to barfine.

naemlo

07-01-2017, 01:33 PM

There is time and place for everything. After a few STs , I love going to bars to get drunk and have some eye candy with ZERO intention to barfine.

U very the can leh.... after a few STs in a night. :D:eek:

Bangc0ck

07-01-2017, 01:43 PM

There is time and place for everything. After a few STs , I love going to bars to get drunk and have some eye candy with ZERO intention to barfine.

your first few STs, without alcohol? :eek::eek:

0898

07-01-2017, 02:08 PM

I think we have to consider that the term "Coyote" is rather misused now, the only really started to exist in the gogo world due to issues recruiting enough staff, initially it was a way of enticing girls who would not normally consider working in that environment, who weren't open to offering sexual services.

However what's happened over time is that the standards have dropped, the attractiveness required has dropped and the girls do offer sex just at an inflated price for both them and the bar.

Simple really other girls saw these coyotes and were "well I'ma coyote to"...services the offer don't change just their attitude and price tag. Most "coyotes" you see these days in nana/cowboy would have been regular gogo girls 3 or 4 years ago...the genuinely attractive girls won't work in those areas and that hasn't changed.

So yeah it is just a way of inflating prices, maybe not a scam but preying on people who don't know better...it's no coincidence that the bars VBKK listed that don't have these pretend coyotes...Baccara, Rainbow etc are by far the busiest and best regarded whilst the likes of Sahara, Rio and Midnight are empty shells.

I have no problem with the genuine hostess concept, in fact I prefer it (gogo quality is generally appalling) but if you're going to do that you may as well do it with some quality in places like Monte Carlo, Villa, Aladdin etc. not try to pretend to be a baller in some dump on soi cowboy.

ahtecklim

07-01-2017, 02:15 PM

U very the can leh.... after a few STs in a night. :D:eek:

We were all young once , thus my post. Can go all nite long when younger but now ........... sighhhhhhhhhhhhh...........

your first few STs, without alcohol? :eek::eek:

Off course without la! I am someone who prefers booze to women nowadays so if you get me started , Ill rather get drunk

TonyCheong2

07-01-2017, 02:50 PM

Come in peace as long my tail is not purposely flatten...

Who dare to bulldoze your premium serwit tail 555? :p

Power konkek la susu slurp slurp china good or not I heard mixed voices but more that is more ex and fun factors lesser than in President Hu era... but President Jiang era then the best girls can con to bed using singapore passport or give them fake Rolex lol

5555 those days are long gone man.
It was good while it lasted.

Even popiah (Viet) also very smart these days liao 555!

Got become more yan dao from the konkek susu.

Khun Allanooi is forever young 555!

I quit drinking not smoking lol still let ceweks suck my cigar!

I always tell the girls to refrain from smoking.
Want to smoke I can take out my cigar and let them puff 555!

Off course without la! I am someone who prefers booze to women nowadays so if you get me started, Ill rather get drunk

How come I becoming like you also?
Must be age catching up 555.

U very the can leh.... after a few STs in a night.

Khun ahtecklim kuat (strong) mah.
Insert -> when young. 555! :p

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

TonyCheong2

07-01-2017, 04:02 PM

If there is another respected brother here who loves Coyote Dancers, and does not find them confusing when mixed in SC or SN, please let him speak up, and i will take back this view.

This is why i wish to hear the views of others to see what they think, but you don't t that is necessary. Again, i think it is very revealing that not a single other person here say they like the infestation of Coyotes, while many other bros clearly dislike it. Just because SC has evolved to this style does not mean that its what the people like/want.

Personally I love coyote dancers but please be patient and allow me to narrate a timeline on the brief history of coyote dancers in Bangkok.
Both newbies and veterans alike will better understand why the word "coyote" is an abused, cliche and washed down term in present day 2017.

HISTORY

In early 2000s a G-Club call Forte opened for business on Sukhumvit Soi 23.
Now there're also quite a few old school G-Clubs in existence even before Forte opened its doors.
But what makes Forte different is that not only it has PRs (hostess) but also introduced a new concept.
It has dancers dancing on bar top at stipulated timings throughout the night.
Voila the "coyote" concept was born!

This concept was inspired by the American film Coyote Ugly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_Ugly_(film)) and Coyote Ugly Saloon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_Ugly_Saloon).
In hindsight it might not sound exciting for the newer and present generation.
But in those days it was ground breaking in context to Thailand club industry and especially I was cheonging in that scene during its infancy stages.

You can be a shy guy in real life but in Forte all you have to do is to fork out some cash to buy lady drinks for the coyotes/PRs.
They will entertain, chat, drink, play games, etc.
Anything besides sex hahahaha!

INNER WORKINGS

And also back in days G-Clubs are supposed to project an image of atas (high class) and good clean fun.
Girls are now allowed to go back with customers at least not outright.
You have to use your own skills to bed these chicks.
Till now most established Tier 1 and 2 G-Clubs are still sticking to this principle.

This business model was so successful and profitable that other G-Clubs and new G-Clubs began to sprung up country wide (not just Bangkok) all the way to late 00s.
That whole decade was an explosive growth for this industry.
After the turn of the new decade into 2010s the novelty factor sort of worn off.
Some G-Clubs closed down and some consolidate into smaller venues.

The G-Club clientele is mainly upper middle income and affluent Thais.
G-Club PRs/Coyotes earn a very good salary + commission besides the tips from customers.
Most will only put out for the right price but that also takes time if you can afford the time and money.
The rich Thais love this cock teasing game but most foreigners can't afford to do it.
There're of course exceptions just like all things in life.

I've personally know a few friends who sponsored these girls big time.
Property and sports cars but that's another story for another day.

Although spent a mini fortune in G-Clubs in my younger days but the experience was priceless.
Both sweet and bitter memories hehehe.

PRESENT

Fast forward to recent years and present day.
Girlie bars began to use coyote dancers as a marketing gimmick to pull in the crowd.
I don't see a problem with that as a business does what it can to survive in a stiff competition environment.

However many bars do not make it clear that which girls go out and which girls don't for ST/LT.
I'm sure there're some bar owners that do let their customers know but I think that's the minority.
To the average newbie or tourist how will they know about this detail?

Personally I also prefer to go to a G-Club if I want to flirt with coyote dancers.
Not a fan of Agogo Bars but that doesn't give me the right to shoot people down for their preferences.

Bro 0898 said it best, "I have no problem with the genuine hostess concept, in fact I prefer it (gogo quality is generally appalling) but if you're going to do that you may as well do it with some quality in places like Monte Carlo, Villa, Aladdin etc. not try to pretend to be a baller in some dump on soi cowboy.".

GDP

Also this coyote concept is widely exported to clubs in Singapore, Malaysia and worldwide albeit operating in their own versions within confines of local laws and regulations. Eg. In Singapore bar top dancing requires a public entertainment license and dancers are not allowed to mingle with customers. That's why Thai girls will flee when there is a raid in Singapore and Malaysia "Thai Discos".

LAST WORDS

End of the day it is how a girlie bar wants to operate.
Short or long term type of business model?
If you want repeat business then you have to conduct your business in a honest way.
The dishonest ones will self destruct sooner or later.

So now you can comprehend why I expressed that the word "coyote" is an abused, cliche and washed down term in present day 2017.

And why the hell I type such a long essay?
That is because I want to shut a busybody and cocky person's mouth up once and for all for his autocratic views.
But you know what I'm not on the ground and out of touch with Thailand so please take my opinions as talking cock only hahahaha! :D

*Note: Please feel free to use or link my article but please quote source and author.

We are welcome to their own views and opinions, but right now you are the only voice i hear on this forum that support the Coyotes, and i have heard many people have opposite view.

As mentioned before some people because of vested interest keep defending about certain aspects and spin a bunch of wonderful stories to announce to the whole world to justify.
And when other people have differing views he try his best to shoot it down. :p

I have no problem with the genuine hostess concept, in fact I prefer it (gogo quality is generally appalling) but if you're going to do that you may as well do it with some quality in places like Monte Carlo, Villa, Aladdin etc. not try to pretend to be a baller in some dump on soi cowboy.

Weel said Khun 0898! :)

First of all I want to make it clear I'm not looking down on bar girls or coyotes working in bars.
There're definitely some girls who are forced or willingly to work in this environment to make some fast cash.
However there're also many bad eggs that like to chut pattern so use your own judgement.

Here's how I look at it.
If want to enjoy flirting (some say cock tease) with coyotes then fork up some dough and do it in the G-Clubs for top quality coyotes.
The only exception is The PIMP G-Club which is akin to a higher class Agogo Bar that's all.

Those that enjoy the coyotes at bars it's their right and preference.
Nothing wrong.

But what I have a problem is some people because of vested interest keep defending about certain aspects and spin a bunch of wonderful stories to announce to the whole world to justify.
And when other people have differing views he try his best to shoot it down.
I still haven't even talk about how he want to sabo me yet.

All have eyes to see 555! :D

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

naemlo

07-01-2017, 04:03 PM

Years ago, there are less so called "coyote" in AGG bars.... to me, why should there be coyote when I can get any ger I fancy to sit and have a drink in the AGG bar?

I just hate it when I am in a AGG bar and a coyote comes n bothers me cause she either costs a premium price or gives excuse, she can't be bf... to me it defeats the purpose of AGG.

1 of the reason for AGG bars to get coyote gers simply, there is not enough gers in the bar. Thus getting a 3rd party to bring in gers and letting the agent manages these troublesome gers are easier.

Again this is a forum, this is virtual world, why bother who is doing what. Isn't this forum for fun and entertainment. Happy just post, unhappy just ignore.

I think we have to consider that the term "Coyote" is rather misused now,

"Coyote" is like "Model" where these gers want to brand themselves as premium. A lot of ugly coyotes in AGG and same as a lot ugly models mingling in MPs and G-clubs.

Who dare to bulldoze your premium serwit tail 555? :p

Premium service but business is bad, must think of add on to enhance the service. Thus now I have a LB with 15 inches dick. This is super add on. :D

1KnightinBKK

07-01-2017, 04:34 PM

Coyote in SC = Blue balls la..

I see so many saosao in siam paragon cannot piak piak already so torture.. why go to SC to suffer more..

G Club different.. i checked my expectations at the door and I also took a long hard look in the toilet mirror and tell myself I'm not Korean Superstar.. although everytime mamasan say i handsome I tip her thb100.. :D:D

No point see the girl so hot.. then go back hotel room use imagination and five fingers

lost99

07-01-2017, 05:12 PM

... please be patient and allow me to narrate a timeline on the brief history of coyote dancers in Bangkok.
...
And why the hell I type such a long essay?

.... I also took a long hard look in the toilet mirror and tell myself I'm not Korean Superstar.. although everytime mamasan say i handsome I tip her thb100.. :D:D

OK, so thank you for the explanation on Coyote Dancer. For me i'm not a fan of hostess concept in general (I just goto normal Bars and Clubs and talk to civillian women for that, who are likely more educated and intellectual instead of poor country bumpkin dancers), but each entitled to their own version of fun. When i goto SC or NP, i normally expect these Gogo Bar areas to stock Gogo dancers (go figure?) which give me the option to barfine, and not money sucking, blue-balls cock teasers.

Maybe your next essay can cover this mythical Korean Superstar which i hear so much about? I only start being more active on Thailand section after Korean Superstar disappear, so only hear bits and pieces of stories of his magical abilities from various bros, but never whole picture!

norice

07-01-2017, 06:57 PM

Hello,

Just want to let you guys know that I'm Korean but not a superstar, I'm only a jack of all trades master of none! Also, I had 14 surgical operations in my life but no plastic surgeries! Trying to keep myself healthy as possible since I can make more money as I live longer! 55555555555555555

slayerxdx

07-01-2017, 07:25 PM

Any recommendations for accommodation around Asoke area ? Going Solo there next month. I have done research and just seeking for any extra information,

nirvana123

08-01-2017, 02:20 AM

eh...we just want to see where can get good fuck in BKK leh... not come here to see who is right or wrong leh :D:(

The Milk Man

08-01-2017, 03:59 AM

Long time no see, u now quit smoking.. which is good.

Got become more yan dao from the konkek susu :p :D

Wanna order some susu? Freshly milked from my diary farm :D

The Milk Man

08-01-2017, 04:00 AM

Got popcorns and candyfloss boh? I quit drinking lol only drink fresh milk:D

Fresh milk available.... wanna order some?

lost99

08-01-2017, 04:21 AM

eh...we just want to see where can get good fuck in BKK leh... not come here to see who is right or wrong leh :D:(

Its fine bro, in my view, a good debate is very healthy because it puts all information, facts, and arguments on the table for everyone to see, and make an informed decision for themselves. It's just bad when it gets personal, and degrades into name-calling and petty insults, but the information provided here is good for everyone to understand so called 'Coyote' bars (either in SC or NP) and whether you agree and want to participate. So if you want a 'good fuck' you can decide whether you can get one in a Coyote style bar.

To lighten up the mood, i suggest you get a Melon smoothie when you goto BKK here. Pts to you if you can tell me where it is, because i want to order one with extra nom susu!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOaKpCyCsEE&index=2&list=PLzZ8BgRA5UN16VnFzEv47Kqam4h3MNCh1

vbkk

08-01-2017, 06:36 AM

Its fine bro, in my view, a good debate is very healthy because it puts all information, facts, and arguments on the table for everyone to see, and make an informed decision for themselves. It's just bad when it gets personal, and degrades into name-calling and petty insults, but the information provided here is good for everyone to understand so called 'Coyote' bars (either in SC or NP) and whether you agree and want to participate. So if you want a 'good fuck' you can decide whether you can get one in a Coyote style bar.

To lighten up the mood, i suggest you get a Melon smoothie when you goto BKK here. Pts to you if you can tell me where it is, because i want to order one with extra nom susu!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOaKpCyCsEE&index=2&list=PLzZ8BgRA5UN16VnFzEv47Kqam4h3MNCh1

Train market Ratchada behind Esplanade. Row number 3 if I remember correctly. No need for the points though. Will reply the posts when I'm free. It's weekend and rather busy clubbing. :p

Allanooi

08-01-2017, 08:32 AM

Fresh milk available.... wanna order some?

Waaaa thanks milk man.... you got young smooth fair skinned fresh milk.... I want order liao...

Allanooi

08-01-2017, 08:40 AM

Waaa her boobs is as big as melon siah hope is not enhanced hahaha... if she charged 60 baht for a fruit melon how much she charging for her meat melons?

Allanooi

08-01-2017, 08:52 AM

Bangkok is a place where different funs catered to different tastes and pockets is not one size fit all... u can go coyote bars, u can go soapy , u can go g club, u can Cheong disco get freelance the feelings at each of these places are different there are no way to measure if it worth the baht... ultimately is what u want and what u can afford... before u make a choice u have to do homework if reading forums doesn't help go there and ask for pricing and systems u decide if u want to stay and play ..

Bangkok is not a place cut out as outright price transparent u must tread with care if u blur blur enjoy and check bill and don't get a pussy to fuck is not a scam is a sense of own mistake for not asking about price and system. Maybe some old timers Cheongsters who based in Thailand or regularly go Bangkok will hold ur hand to guide u that is the best insurance u can get to navigate Bangkok complexity of funs but I gathered u must know what u want to get and what budget u have otherwise u end up walking in merry go round and go back pcc in Bangkok hotel and a night of drinking can cost 4-5k baht lesser from ur pocket and no pussy to hood..

Allanooi

08-01-2017, 09:01 AM

Forum is meant to provide information to newbies and cheongsters there are some wrong information or updated information we don't need to overcriticise whose information is right or wrong ... forum editor will do the editing ... even in newspaper there are always misinformed news out blown out of proportion news ...

Naka_Timo

08-01-2017, 09:26 AM

I quit drinking not smoking lol still let ceweks suck my cigar!

Opps, my mistake is drinking not smoking.Yes, let the cewek smoke your cigar, still as strong as ever.

Naka_Timo

08-01-2017, 09:35 AM

Wanna order some susu? Freshly milked from my diary farm :D

Ok, satu bottle, harga berapa?:D :p

kelthai

08-01-2017, 12:47 PM

drink nom susu at hui kwang terrace restaurant with pretty siambu ;)

https://i.imgsafe.org/1c34ed2184.jpg

ChiefPilot

08-01-2017, 02:20 PM

Any recommendations for accommodation around Asoke area ? Going Solo there next month. I have done research and just seeking for any extra information,

i see online condolette midst rama 9 have good deals... :D

Bangc0ck

08-01-2017, 02:29 PM

drink nom susu at hui kwang terrace restaurant with pretty siambu ;)

https://i.imgsafe.org/1c34ed2184.jpg

suay mak bro

kio from where?:D

yinyang

08-01-2017, 04:05 PM

Any recommendations for accommodation around Asoke area ?
Asoke is accessible to BTS, MRT and just across Soi Cowboy.
Really depends on your budget and comfort level. Check out resellers like Agoda targeting Asoke with plenty options.

For thb2k level, Furama Exclusive is a reasonable standard, within short walking distance to BTS/MRT and adjoining T21:

http://www.furamaxclusive.com/asoke/

BangkokMark

08-01-2017, 04:19 PM

Anyone else get invited to Mama Vicki of SHERBET Wedding Jan 4th? 25 Years in the G-Club Business now married for the first time at 46 and Retired Wow!:D

1KnightinBKK

09-01-2017, 12:48 AM

drink nom susu at hui kwang terrace restaurant with pretty siambu ;)

https://i.imgsafe.org/1c34ed2184.jpg

Looks good.. share share.. :D:D

ahtecklim

09-01-2017, 02:15 AM

Live from Nana , gogos close at 2am. Now 115am still going strong.....

rahkshi007

09-01-2017, 09:38 AM

55055,

This is nothing, you should go to Syria!

I'll be visiting HCM on February 5 through 12, staying at The Luxe Hotel! Any argument over that hotel?

I believe you will have great experience... Vietnamese girl has fair skin and super high gfe. I got the best fxxk expercience in my life from a vietnamse girl in KL. Full of enthusiasm. Just DFK and her pussy already soaking wet ! Now make me wonder should I continue travel to land of BKK.

shaggy999

10-01-2017, 12:37 AM

Been chionging the Thai G club scene for 10 years now, I've been to quite a number of them, Sherbet, Secret, The Villa, Monty Carlo, The Pimp, Maiake, Aladdin, Colosseum. I remembered the first time I went there the very first time in Bkk was at a club called Forte. Back then, I was a young 22 year old greenhorn. The glitzy lights and the numerous pretty dancing girls make Thoroughly enjoyed myself there and every 2 months I'll go there to party in Forte. I was lucky to have somebody to bring me if not at my age I can't afford.

After I enter the workforce, the expenses at the G Clubs became my responsibility, I realized it's not exactly very cheap, one night $400-500 is not exactly affordable to me at that point of time.

I forced myself to learn how they charge the bill. As the receipt is in Thai, there are many things that they can add without you knowing what issit.

Anyway I reached Thailand on the 30/12/16, I'm going back tmr. Just to give some FR on the clubs I went to this time round.

Colosseum
This place opened in November 2016, was opened by a very big mafia and a very ranking police officer. So I heard that the very big mafia fled Thailand recently because of some issues with the police. Maybe because of that Colosseum closed on the 5th January. Luckily I finished most of my bottles. Coloseeum was the old Ka Chood, they refurbish and open again, it was touted to be the next biggest G club when it opened just like Secret. Decor was nice (expected as its new), the place was big , I think there's near to 80 tables there.
Took the sofa, ordered a 20,000 baht whiskey package. As usual, the mamasan brought in the PRs and the coyotes (there's a price difference btw the PRs and the coyotes) . I should say 7/10 for most of them, anyway I found the place ok only. Really lucky I finished most of my bottles before they closed down.
Place 8/10
Girls 7/10
Entertainment 7/10

Overall, it's not what I expected but I bought my membership already if not I'll change clubs. Some photos of colosseum.

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(To be cont)

shaggy999

10-01-2017, 12:39 AM

Aladdin
After Coloseum, the next few nights I spent in Aladdin. It's also a G club which I have never been to but heard a lot about it. Aladdin is next to a kuey Liao named "Seven" . Seven is the same as Poseidon. So some of the customers who go to Aladdin request for girls who "sell" their bodies. The Pimp, which is a g club too, specialize in this. The girls working in the pimp, I can say almost 90 % can tabao. While the other g clubs do not follow this structure , but these days it's getting more common. If you want to sit a girl which you can take out later, request it from the mamasan earlier, she will arrange for you. But do bear in mind, to taboo from such places, it will be quite expensive.To buy out a girl in the pimp, typically cost 3000 baht and above (excluding the cost of sitting with them) as each girl has different prices. Personally, The Pimp has tons of girls, but I feel the girls are average at best. Whereas Aladdin, when I see the coyotes (about 15) go up on stage, more 10 of them I don't mind to sit with ;).

Bought a package 20,000 baht 3 bottles of black and 28 drinks( for the girls to sit with you). The mamasan was really honest about the cost ( I roughly know the cost structure already). She gave me photos of a few coyotes and PRs to choose as I wanted to see all the girls they have. The one I chose was really sweet. 71097

The place was fun, happening, lotsa eye candies to see, ;)
Shall not get into other details but overall
Place 9/10
Girls 9/10
Entertainment 9/10
Fern (mamasan) was ok too, never overcharge and was always on hand to make sure i was ok. Anybody who wants to go there I strongly recommend to go through her. I can give her line contact or number if anybody wants. Or you can go there and look for Fern.
Here are the rest of the photos she sent to me for me to choose
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Just sian that I gotta go back to reality tmr

BlueDragon193

10-01-2017, 12:39 PM

Anyone else get invited to Mama Vicki of SHERBET Wedding Jan 4th? 25 Years in the G-Club Business now married for the first time at 46 and Retired Wow!:D

Did you attend.??
By now and after 25 years, she must be quite loaded if she smart enough.
Next thing is to make babies not money...:D

After all this years I still with Mama Micky from Piano to Sherbet.

TonyCheong2

10-01-2017, 01:37 PM

Maybe your next essay can cover this mythical Korean Superstar which i hear so much about? I only start being more active on Thailand section after Korean Superstar disappear, so only hear bits and pieces of stories of his magical abilities from various bros, but never whole picture!

Just like Lazy Spoon Feeders, Korean Superstars pop out every now and then. It is not just a particular individual. :D

TonyCheong2's Dicktionary

*American Style Spender/Tipper:
A person/mongerer that disrupts the market/going price by overpaying for goods and services.

*Big Cannon Soldier:
A person/mongerer that is not what he described himself to be and often with an obnoxious attitude.

*Extra Sprayer:
A person/mongerer that performs a task repeatedly or seeks answer from as many different sources as possible due to kiasu/kiasi mentality.

*Fab 5:
A man's best friend in times of loneliness especially late at night.

*Korean Superstar:
A person/mongerer that boasts of his conquest of bedding females with minimal or no monetary outlay. In most times he likens his attractiveness similar to celebrities such as Andy Lau or Brad Pitt.

*Lazy Spoon Feeder:
A person/mongerer that comes on the internet to demand for quick answers whereby the info is actually readily available by researching online.

*WeChat Gambler:
A person/mongerer that likes to roll the dice and source for sex via social meda apps. Even though it has been statistically proven that the house will win 9/10 times!

1KnightinBKK

10-01-2017, 02:41 PM

Just like Lazy Spoon Feeders, Korean Superstars pop out every now and then. It is not just a particular individual. :D

Very long never see the big cannon fairies on this forum.. Geylang thread got alot say cat150 girls pay for them to overnight :D:D

Confusius

10-01-2017, 04:12 PM

Hi Lost99,

Thanks for your sharing and recommendations.
Appreciate it.

Perhaps I should use the word "Service Culture" instead of GFE.
Some joint's culture is that the girls, to optimise income, will pressure you into ST, and during ST pressure to finish fast so that they can go back to joint for their rounds.
Some joints girls may entertain you regardless whether you take them out for ST and give you good attitude in hope of repeat business and bigger tips.
Such culture will only be known to bros who experience them personally.
Bad attitude is a turn-off to me, therefore my request for recommendation on joints with good "Service Culture".
Not sure if such thing exist in BKK scene. :D

My flavour is not so much straight up sex, as i feel u can get it in S'pore anytime in GL or the "TCM" MPs.
More importantly, is the build up process towards the end result of sex.
Like that of KTVs. :D

Yes, as you and some bros mentioned, G-Clubs is probably the place for me.

Your questions are confusing because Sex is packaged in many different 'flavors' in BKK, and you do not clarify which type of 'flavor' you want...

4. GFE feel is entirely between you and the girl, and does not really matter whether she comes from a KTV/Gogo bar/Freelance bar/Disco. No place can guarantee better GFE over another since it is very individual and there are too many independent factors. However, you may have a better chance developing GFE at a KTV since you spend more time with the girl before you dabao, but as with everything in this game, no guarantees. I've had good GFE in quick Fuckjob shops, and shitty GFE in KTV before. Again, it totally depends on you and the girl, no matter where she comes from and what you are doing.
...your preferred style.

Confusius

10-01-2017, 04:51 PM

Hi bros,

Was wondering if any bros here can advice on;
1) G-Clubs;
I'm looking for G-clubs with raba action in club and dabao girl for ST/LT.
I read up that most mid-higher end clubs will have english speaking girls who will raba you and vice versa (true?).
To dabao girls, will need to sound out to mamasan for arrangement.
Will drink 1/2 bottle max with another friend. Not sure how much more girls and mamasan will drink.
a) Which two clubs should I look at for the above criteria?
b) Tried looking for price structure but only found general guides with nothing specific. What is the usual expense break down at these clubs?
c) what is the extend of action in club (can finger girl)?
d) Some bros mentioned girls may ask you to pay up ST money first and ask u to wait outside club but in end dont turn up. How to prevent such cases?
e) any mamasans to recommend?

2) AGG Bars
Again, understand girls will sit with you, talk play games ask for LDs.
Same process as most S'pore Thai Disco, except S'pore TD has Hang Flower concept. Seems the ideal itinerary is to get high at AGG bars and end the night with Thermae. :D

a) Any recommendation for AGG bars should I look at for raba action and good service culture?
b) To what extend is the action (can finger girl)
c) how to tell a AGG from a Coyote girl?

3) Soapy Massage
Again, looking for good service culture and facilities.
Read alot about Lord being over priced.
a) Any place to recommend?
b) what the expected rate range?

Do correct me if any of the above info are wrong.
Sorry for the noob qns.
Thanks in advance for your advice.

fiddler3343

10-01-2017, 05:20 PM

Question is how many people going and how much are you willing to spend.
If there's only you and another friend, i suppose you shouldn't really go to G-clubs.

The normal rates at G-clubs for tabao is roughly 5k, and even though they tell you it's LT, they will try to leave after 1 shot.

G-clubs employ hourly fees for a girl to sit with you, not really sure how much it is.

Only pay after the deed, not before.

Confusius

10-01-2017, 05:33 PM

Yes, only 2 pax.

G-Clubs tabao 5K B for ST?
Whats the expectation for LT? 2 shots or 3 shots (2 night, 1 morning)?

Not sure of hourly rate sounds good.
That means either u r not paying for it or rich enough it doesn't matter to you. lol!

Is it market practice there to pay after deed?

Question is how many people going and how much are you willing to spend.
If there's only you and another friend, i suppose you shouldn't really go to G-clubs.

The normal rates at G-clubs for tabao is roughly 5k, and even though they tell you it's LT, they will try to leave after 1 shot.

G-clubs employ hourly fees for a girl to sit with you, not really sure how much it is.

Only pay after the deed, not before.

erobaka

10-01-2017, 08:35 PM

2) AGG Bars
Again, understand girls will sit with you, talk play games ask for LDs.
Same process as most S'pore Thai Disco, except S'pore TD has Hang Flower concept. Seems the ideal itinerary is to get high at AGG bars and end the night with Thermae. :D

this is the 1st time i see people taking AGG bar concept compare with our sillypore siam diu diao hui concept lol...LDs vs. FlowerS :eek:

fiddler3343

10-01-2017, 09:05 PM

Yes, only 2 pax.

G-Clubs tabao 5K B for ST?
Whats the expectation for LT? 2 shots or 3 shots (2 night, 1 morning)?

Not sure of hourly rate sounds good.
That means either u r not paying for it or rich enough it doesn't matter to you. lol!

Is it market practice there to pay after deed?

G-club is in fact quite expensive, just to let u know.

For roughly a group of 7-8, damage is around 400-500 SGD per pax, not including tabao (not really sure exactly how much), membership with i think 6-7 bottles.

And with regards to expectations for LT, dun expect much.

They can sweet talk you or whatever just to earn the sitting fees,
end up only 1 shot.

Then later cook up excuses to leave early

If I remember correctly, the membership is around 1k SGD with 6-7 bottles

If money is an issue to you and you still wanna build rapport, i suggest u go to AGGs.
(Though I've never been to AGGs before)

Personally, if i want to go and enjoy, i wouldn't mind spending, as long as it's within limits.

shaggy999

10-01-2017, 11:18 PM

G-club is in fact quite expensive, just to let u know.

For roughly a group of 7-8, damage is around 400-500 SGD per pax, not including tabao (not really sure exactly how much), membership with i think 6-7 bottles.

And with regards to expectations for LT, dun expect much.

They can sweet talk you or whatever just to earn the sitting fees,
end up only 1 shot.

Then later cook up excuses to leave early

If I remember correctly, the membership is around 1k SGD with 6-7 bottles

If money is an issue to you and you still wanna build rapport, i suggest u go to AGGs.
(Though I've never been to AGGs before)

Personally, if i want to go and enjoy, i wouldn't mind spending, as long as it's within limits.

Totally agreed. In bkk, there are so many different types of entertainment with different prices. I like g clubs, but when I was in my 20s, it was hard to afford, but still gotta pay. Lucky for me, I have a couple of like minded friends who will go together and share the cost. I also go my own fair share of agg bars , scb, nana, I do patronize them . It's just that if I go to bkk for 5 days 4 nights and I know this time round I want to go to g club, I will open the membership, and every night I will be there finish the bottles. For me, day time is spent recovering in hotel rooms (I walk all the night market and chatuchak many times already) , or try to Jio the girls I know from the g club to go out in the day. Normally they will go with you to entertain you.night time, I'll go party,enjoy the band, whack the drinks, talk to the girls. G clubs are not really for people who wants to sextisfy themselves; there's so many f&@k shops in bkk and there are the places to go to let off your urges. As what the bro above mentioned, spend within the limits. Most important thing in g clubs, is to be always aware of the expenses. Pay what is due, don't be chopped by them. It's important to have a good mamasan. I've had bad ones and good ones. The bad ones just put more drink s into the bill, thinking that I don't know how it works. The good ones, they are very transparent, and some of them let me extent my whiskey expiry date. Very good service.

rtlfy

11-01-2017, 03:47 AM

I only go to value for money soapy and oilies, coz I'm a bit stingy haha. That being said, I have splurged 400USD on an American pornstar before, but to me that was good value haha.

For soapies, Alaina to me has the best bang for the buck of soapies, but hit or miss depending on girl. Can expect to fork out 2.3k to 2.8k THB, the 2k ones usually suck (looks, not mouth hehe)

Oilies are the best value, Pink from Honeybee and Ninja from Snow White are good. I heard Ninja put on some weight though.

One thing I want to try is public BJ / FJ. I heard some bars in TH are good, but will appreciate any recommendations to try that. The more public, the better hehe.

davvvid

11-01-2017, 02:45 PM

2) AGG Bars
Again, understand girls will sit with you, talk play games ask for LDs.
Same process as most S'pore Thai Disco, except S'pore TD has Hang Flower concept. Seems the ideal itinerary is to get high at AGG bars and end the night with Thermae. :D

a) Any recommendation for AGG bars should I look at for raba action and good service culture?
b) To what extend is the action (can finger girl)
c) how to tell a AGG from a Coyote girl?

3) Soapy Massage
Again, looking for good service culture and facilities.
Read alot about Lord being over priced.
a) Any place to recommend?
b) what the expected rate range?

Do correct me if any of the above info are wrong.
Sorry for the noob qns.
Thanks in advance for your advice.

Will answer all except the G-Club questions as it is not my style of entertainment and so don't know much about it either. I feel its a waste of money for what they provide but that is just my own opinion.

2) AGG Bars
Again, understand girls will sit with you, talk play games ask for LDs.
Same process as most S'pore Thai Disco, except S'pore TD has Hang Flower concept. Seems the ideal itinerary is to get high at AGG bars and end the night with Thermae. :D

The girls will come sit with you if you call them down. Expect to buy at least 1 LD for her and if you want her to stay longer, buy her more LDs of course. Dont compare SG thai discos to gogo bars because it is simply not the same. The process is not the same. In SG TD, the girls only have 1 job, for you to buy them drinks, hang flower. In gogo bars, the girls want you to buy her drinks, as well as to barfine her. Lets say you meet a stunner in a gogo bar, and buy her drinks and what not, in the end dont barfine her, and then head to thermae but dont see any good looking ones and immediately regret not barfining the stunner from before. Whats the point of enjoying the company of a stunner if in the end, you wont bring her back to your hotel?

a) Any recommendation for AGG bars should I look at for raba action and good service culture?

Look for the bars which naked/topless girls. These bars have more opportunity to play around with the girls. Bars such as Crazy House, Twister, Billboard.

b) To what extend is the action (can finger girl)

Depends on your chemistry with the girl, how good looking you are, how many drinks you have bought her. I have fingered a girl and gotten a HJ from a girl from billboard before

c) how to tell a AGG from a Coyote girl?

They will usually wear slightly different outfits. The gogo girls will wear more revealing outfits. Also, if shes topless/naked, shes a gogo girl.

3) Soapy Massage
Again, looking for good service culture and facilities.
Read alot about Lord being over priced.
a) Any place to recommend?

I often head to hi class massage and merci. Decent quality of girls with the service for most of these places is standard.

b) what the expected rate range?

In hi class, it ranges from 1.7k to 2.5k. I have actually seen a looker in the 1.7k range and I asked why she was so cheap and it was because she had darker skin. In merci it ranges from 2k to 2.8k. Took a 22 year old girl from chiang mai last time at merci for 2.8k. Beautiful white skin and silicone free body!

This whole service culture thing is not dependent on the establishment and it is only dependent on the girl itself. You could walk into a bar, barfine a girl and end up with having a wonderful time with her due to great 'service culture', but then another guy goes into the same bar, barfines a different girl, or even the exact same girl and then has a shit time. It all depends on the chemistry, the attraction as well as of course, the money. All girls will be different. They dont treat all the guys/customers the same way.

Bangc0ck

11-01-2017, 07:07 PM

fiddler3343

11-01-2017, 08:28 PM

I heard G-club, the pimp there is one party room that you can open, 10 bottles with membership. Inside the room can be quite hiong one, can nego with the girl in the room to bbbj, fj everything up to the girl.

I know there are 2 special/larger rooms in the pimp.

One has a shower in the middle of the room i think (never been in there before, seems like need to make advance bookings or maybe reserved for vips)

The other has a pool table in it.

GoWhere

11-01-2017, 09:03 PM

a) Any recommendation for AGG bars should I look at for raba action and good service culture?

Look for the bars which naked/topless girls. These bars have more opportunity to play around with the girls. Bars such as Crazy House, Twister, Billboard.

interesting recommendations you have bro. however I won't put Twister at the same level as it's more of a coyote bar.
agogo bar would be rainbow chains & baccara(soi cowboy).

like ur POV & honest CONTRIBUTIONS ~ up u 5pts.

vbkk

12-01-2017, 12:13 AM

Why is it funny? A scam is a scam is a scam correct? no matter how big or small or deceptive. Dishonesty is all the same in my book.

There's a difference in scams at Patpong Level 2 scam bars from the rest of the coyote bars. U are promised the price of only 1drink but end up harrassed to pay a certain sum before u leave. In coyote bars, u pay what u ordered. Noone can force u to pay what u did not ordered. I will come to the bill padding part later.

If you read the above quotes, yes, many tourists have been scammed in Coyote bars, with 'bill padding' and thinking they can barfine the Coyote only to be dissapoint. If the bars care more about customer service, they should tell the customer this, but they don't. You blame the customer for not asking, but if you walk into a restaurant and order a coke and get charged $300 baht, is it your fault for not 'asking' the price of a Coke? There's a fine line between reasonable customer expectations and a scam, and for me Coyote bars cross that line.

"bill padding"! Or should i say the customer is too high and horny to notice that someone puts bill into the container without realising? Are u the type who gets too horny watching girls dancing and keep no track/eyes off the container/drinks on your table? So someone could just simply walk past and drop a "E" into your drink without your knowledge either.I have already said coyotes have the "freedom" to select going with customers. Same as baccara. Some girls only go ST. Is that any announcement on the bar( baccara ) saying that?

There is no obligation for bars to put up a sign explaining anything. In fact, it seems like you put the onus entirely on the customer to research everything and take full responsibility, while the bar takes no responsiblity. A restaurant does not need to put prices on their menu, its their choice to be honest and forthingcoming if they want. But ones that do not and proceed to overcharge customer is a deceptive practice. Do you blame the restaurant in this case, or the customer for not asking? Whatever your view, any restaurant that have this kind of additude and business practice is a scam in my books.

If u ordered something without a price on the menu, u should just asked how much is it. So far all the prices are stated for all coyote bars i had entered. So if u fucked and got HIV,will u be blaming the condom company instead? u are really funny.

There is a difference between 'available' and 'forced'. Coyote girls are typically not available, but are marketed in a way to appear that they are. None of your arugments address this core deceptive issue. You keep arguing peripheral points which don't address the core deceptive practice of Coyote bars. This has nothing to do with China KTV, money or spending.

I like to know how many coyote bars u had stepped into in the years of cheonging of bangkok. Who ( which smart alec ) told u that coyote girl are typically not available? 90% of my girls as well as most coyotes i know are available for booking. :rolleyes:

You get 100% in the short term, but in the Long-term, if no customers in Coyote bars, surely your business will be affected and you will lose profits from bars booking your ladies. How can you even argue you aren't financially motivated to support Coyote Bars? I'm sorry this is the worst argument you have made.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but even a bar without customers will still want to have plenty of coyotes to go work/dance, because the smart owners know that without coyotes/girls, there wont be a single customer entering the bar.

Because this is not SG where only the PAP can produce their propaganda and silence and drown the general public with their narrow views, and tell the people how they should think. So far only you seem to praise Coyote Bars, but you are obviously biased to do so. Those Farangs/Japs that visit SC/NP, do they go there looking for Coyotes or Gogo dancers? do they visit the Coyote bars by mistake thinking they are gogo bars where you can barfine? Obviously they visit famous places like Baccarra but this is a Gogo Bar not Coyote. This is why i am interested in hearing other opinions that are not biased. You seem to confuse the popularity of Gogo places like Baccarra with pure Coyote Bars... which i don't hear similar praise and popularity.

I think u should make a trip down to SC/Nana and take a look at the sheer crowd of farangs/japs enjoying themselves in the coyote bars. Instead of talking like this. Those who frequents coyotes bars will know the number of "willing" customers there night after night.

Why do you keep confusing Bacarra and Coyote Bar? Bacarra is clearly a Gogo bar where you can barfine any girl there. The issue is not how popular/expensive Baccara is. The issue I have is the depceptive practice of Coyote's and Coyote Bars like the Arab bars. All your response have failed to address this clearly.

I'm confused? The amount of time/days i clocked my mileage patronising all the coyote bars/agogo bars probably surpassed anyone here.

Again, the issue is not Agogo bars, and you seem to confuse their business practices and that of Coyote Bars such as Arab bars. My complaint is the Coyote bars deceptively 'blur' the options of different girls, and deliberately do a bad job of advising the customer to make more profits. Your arugments seem to blame the customer for not clearly 'asking'. If this is your business model i feel bad for you, in my business i clearly tell my customer all my charges and fees so they are not upset or disappointed and they come back as repeat customer. Maybe this is the reason local Thais are not allowed in Coyote bars because they would be upset with this dishonestly and cause a scene in the bar - I can't think of any other industry that would discriminate against their own people in their own country! Personally, I never blame my customers in my business for not asking things, i consider it my job to be honest and put their satisfaction first.

Ohh really, thais are not allowed at many places. For example, at thaniya ktvs as well. So that's a scam place for u also? Do u even know the culture or anything here? u are really making a joke out of urself. Share with u this info, reason why thais are often not allowed at such joints due to the fact they do not want them to go inside and end up beating up their thai gfs making "things" they are not supposed to. Obviously u really know nothing and just making false statements.

VBKK, there is no point continuing this argument with you, and i will stop now because you feel strong and stubborn on this issue, and confuse the argument with other issues that don't address the core issue i have described. This is why i wish to hear the views of others to see what they think, but you don't t that is necessary. Again, i think it is very revealing that not a single other person here say they like the infestation of Coyotes, while many other bros clearly dislike it. Just because SC has evolved to this style does not mean that its what the people like/want.

Yup, i feel u should make a trip down to bangkok and take a look at how these "deceitful" coyote bars are doing. How customers are spending as a happy customer instead of a grumbling customer.

erobaka

12-01-2017, 12:29 AM

Oilies are the best value, Pink from Honeybee and Ninja from Snow White are good. I heard Ninja put on some weight though.

bro rtlfy, is Honeybee also a 2 shot oilies place? I only know snow white and mango are 2 shot places

vbkk

12-01-2017, 12:33 AM

Simple really other girls saw these coyotes and were "well I'ma coyote to"...services the offer don't change just their attitude and price tag. Most "coyotes" you see these days in nana/cowboy would have been regular gogo girls 3 or 4 years ago...the genuinely attractive girls won't work in those areas and that hasn't changed.

So yeah it is just a way of inflating prices, maybe not a scam but preying on people who don't know better...it's no coincidence that the bars VBKK listed that don't have these pretend coyotes...Baccara, Rainbow etc are by far the busiest and best regarded whilst the likes of Sahara, Rio and Midnight are empty shells.

I have no problem with the genuine hostess concept, in fact I prefer it (gogo quality is generally appalling) but if you're going to do that you may as well do it with some quality in places like Monte Carlo, Villa, Aladdin etc. not try to pretend to be a baller in some dump on soi cowboy.

Most coyotes are the newer girls and younger. The ones who used to work in agogo ( aka used to ST/LT ) would not choose to work as a coyote. Why?

Because higher barfines. Customers would be more reluctant to BF u. Why bother to convert to coyote when u are so used to earning 3k/5k when the drinks comm is the same for both? Salary for the month is only 40% more than agogo. Most agogo girls forgo their monthly salary and comes late for work as its only 10k baht a month before deducting late.

U can definitely go g clubs for some quality coyotes. But how many really can afford that? Except for 3rd tiers g clubs, most membership starts with 20k excluding sitting charges etc. Given a choice, would u pay a 200baht lady drink for a coyote at SC/nana or pay 20,000baht +++ to experience that? Not everyone can afford g clubs especially for those just going for 1 night.

Years ago, there are less so called "coyote" in AGG bars.... to me, why should there be coyote when I can get any ger I fancy to sit and have a drink in the AGG bar?

I just hate it when I am in a AGG bar and a coyote comes n bothers me cause she either costs a premium price or gives excuse, she can't be bf... to me it defeats the purpose of AGG.

1 of the reason for AGG bars to get coyote gers simply, there is not enough gers in the bar. Thus getting a 3rd party to bring in gers and letting the agent manages these troublesome gers are easier.

Again this is a forum, this is virtual world, why bother who is doing what. Isn't this forum for fun and entertainment. Happy just post, unhappy just ignore.

"Coyote" is like "Model" where these gers want to brand themselves as premium. A lot of ugly coyotes in AGG and same as a lot ugly models mingling in MPs and G-clubs.

U can buy any drinks for anyone inside the bar. From the girls to waitress,mamasan and even the bartender. But how many of u experience this. Buying a drink for a gogo girl and more often than not, they are mostly only interested in ST/LT? Especially in baccara where they disappear less than 5mins after their drink if u dun BF them? They rather go engage a customer willing to give them 3K instead of drinking themselves silly for 60baht a tequila.

Yes there's alot of ugly coyotes out there as well. Thats how thai agents work. Just push quantity over quality. That is why owners really hate such agents who supply ugly fat coyotes. ;)

Bangkok is a place where different funs catered to different tastes and pockets is not one size fit all... u can go coyote bars, u can go soapy , u can go g club, u can Cheong disco get freelance the feelings at each of these places are different there are no way to measure if it worth the baht... ultimately is what u want and what u can afford... before u make a choice u have to do homework if reading forums doesn't help go there and ask for pricing and systems u decide if u want to stay and play ..

Bangkok is not a place cut out as outright price transparent u must tread with care if u blur blur enjoy and check bill and don't get a pussy to fuck is not a scam is a sense of own mistake for not asking about price and system. Maybe some old timers Cheongsters who based in Thailand or regularly go Bangkok will hold ur hand to guide u that is the best insurance u can get to navigate Bangkok complexity of funs but I gathered u must know what u want to get and what budget u have otherwise u end up walking in merry go round and go back pcc in Bangkok hotel and a night of drinking can cost 4-5k baht lesser from ur pocket and no pussy to hood..

Fine advice coming from a veteran cheongster of coyote bars of bangkok. ;)

lost99

12-01-2017, 12:40 AM

But what I have a problem is some people because of vested interest keep defending about certain aspects and spin a bunch of wonderful stories to announce to the whole world to justify.
And when other people have differing views he try his best to shoot it down.
I still haven't even talk about how he want to sabo me yet.

Who is this person you are talking about? with vested interest and always defending certain aspect, and shoot anyone down with different view? I don't see anyone so immature here :D

Years ago, there are less so called "coyote" in AGG bars.... to me, why should there be coyote when I can get any ger I fancy to sit and have a drink in the AGG bar?

I just hate it when I am in a AGG bar and a coyote comes n bothers me cause she either costs a premium price or gives excuse, she can't be bf... to me it defeats the purpose of AGG.

1 of the reason for AGG bars to get coyote gers simply, there is not enough gers in the bar. Thus getting a 3rd party to bring in gers and letting the agent manages these troublesome gers are easier.

Again this is a forum, this is virtual world, why bother who is doing what. Isn't this forum for fun and entertainment. Happy just post, unhappy just ignore.

"Coyote" is like "Model" where these gers want to brand themselves as premium. A lot of ugly coyotes in AGG and same as a lot ugly models mingling in MPs and G-clubs.

Premium service but business is bad, must think of add on to enhance the service. Thus now I have a LB with 15 inches dick. This is super add on. :D

Agree, Coyote in AGG bar just defeats the purpose. Am i allowed to have my own opinion here without any 'so called expert' shooting it down right away with one sided excuses?

vbkk

12-01-2017, 12:46 AM

Aladdin....

Just sian that I gotta go back to reality tmr

Not to mention u could extend your "fun" after Aladdin close and go "next door" to party until 6am with your bottles/girls ;)

I heard G-club, the pimp there is one party room that you can open, 10 bottles with membership. Inside the room can be quite hiong one, can nego with the girl in the room to bbbj, fj everything up to the girl.

U cant do anything like in the past already ever since the army set regulations in May 2016. Most customers will buyout the girl and bring back to their hotel.

I know there are 2 special/larger rooms in the pimp.

One has a shower in the middle of the room i think (never been in there before, seems like need to make advance bookings or maybe reserved for vips)

The other has a pool table in it.

If u have a group of 8-10s coming, or if u have the $$ to book it, u can stay in the "party room" alone with 8-10 girls instead. ;)

interesting recommendations you have bro. however I won't put Twister at the same level as it's more of a coyote bar.
agogo bar would be rainbow chains & baccara(soi cowboy).

like ur POV & honest CONTRIBUTIONS ~ up u 5pts.

Twister is a coyote bar and they have topless girls as "coyotes" as well. It's opened by some police so ...:rolleyes:

Someone expert already. :p

vbkk

12-01-2017, 12:53 AM

Agree, Coyote in AGG bar just defeats the purpose. Am i allowed to have my own opinion here without any 'so called expert' shooting it down right away with one sided excuses?

Yup,perhaps u can offer your expertise and hold a AGM for the owners and propose that to them instead? There's more than 30 bars at SC alone. Maybe u can propose something better instead? ;)

Well, at least i dun go saying that thais are not allowed in bars because they might make a scene. They are not allowed in the bars for a reason. I dun call myself a expert over the past 2 years, many had appreciated for the fact I shared many insights/knowledge from the other side of the scene instead of from a consumer.

Like it or not, outcome here does not affect the slightest at SC/Nana. Because as much as many here might hate it, there's tons of tourists patronising the coyote bars as we speak. If there's really no demand for such entertainment,I believe the bar owners will not follow the trend and pick up coyote concept one after another. Scam or not scam, I often see the tourist police doing nothing on both sides of the end at SC/Nana. If the customers were really unhappy, I believe they would be very busy. And also, probably there's AGM between the owners/agents at the thong lor police station. ;)

Let's just leave it to the ones reading it to decide whether they wish to patronise coyote bars or not. Its aint really yours or mine problem to begin with. ;)

lost99

12-01-2017, 12:55 AM

I won't put Twister at the same level as it's more of a coyote bar.
agogo bar would be rainbow chains & baccara(soi cowboy).

Glad u understand difference between a Coyote bar and gogo bar.
Some 'so called expert' coyote agents here don't understand that difference, and conflate the popularity of agogo bar (Baccara) to that of Coyote Bar (Arab bars). I believe these coyote bars feed off this confusion to steal customers looking to goto gogo bars....but of course thats my opinion which apparently not allowed here by 'so called expert' coyote agent/bar owner who will bully his opinion on you because he's been to Coyote bar more than all of us :) no conflict of interest here right :rolleyes:

By the way, one reason i avoid Coyote bar such as Arab bar is because there is a long history of bill padding and false charges. if you don't believe read this article:
“I know better than to go into an Arab-owned bar in Soi Cowboy. I’ve been (grossly) overcharged two times and I have vowed never to set foot in one of his bars again. Against my better judgment, I went into Midnite last week with an out-of-town friend .... they essentially doubled the total with phony chits. I was floored by the aggressive, blatant attempt to overcharge us. ....During the conversation, 5 Thai bouncers appeared and surrounded us. ....Moral of the story? Don’t EVER set foot in an Arab-owned bar again..... Bill padding scams are legendary in Angeles City bars in the Philippines, but are now, from the reports we’re hearing, becoming more common on Soi Cowboy in Bangkok.
http://www.wowasis.com/travelblog/?p=3770

Of course 'so called expert' will say its not a scam and the customer's fault for not asking charges, or letting someone slip checks into your cup. I guess this is the additude and culture of these Coyote bars...blame the customer. What used to happen to 'the customer is always right"?

vbkk

12-01-2017, 01:03 AM

GoWhere

12-01-2017, 01:40 AM

Glad u understand difference between a Coyote bar and gogo bar.
Some 'so called expert' coyote agents here don't understand that difference, and conflate the popularity of agogo bar (Baccara) to that of Coyote Bar (Arab bars). I believe these coyote bars feed off this confusion to steal customers looking to goto gogo bars....but of course thats my opinion which apparently not allowed here by 'so called expert' coyote agent/bar owner who will bully his opinion on you because he's been to Coyote bar more than all of us :) no conflict of interest here right :rolleyes:

By the way, one reason i avoid Coyote bar such as Arab bar is because there is a long history of bill padding and false charges. if you don't believe read this article:

Of course 'so called expert' will say its not a scam and the customer's fault for not asking charges, or letting someone slip checks into your cup. I guess this is the additude and culture of these Coyote bars...blame the customer. What used to happen to 'the customer is always right"?

Bill padding can be avoided by paying periodically whenever it hits up to 2-3k baht. This is one method I used.

To all;

I normally keep to myself and lurk in sbf. All the more recently as I felt there is too many non-contributing and irrelevant post.

This is a forum and if you cannot take ppl giving honest opinion and sharing then you might be at the wrong place. Everyone can share their POV.

We all have eyes to see and brain to think ourselves. Some lao Jiao post were more relevant when I first started in SBF and as a matter of fact, I did learn some valuable stuff from vbkk.

Zap me all you want as I wouldn't care less and I said it "Tony is damn childish" for doing what he did. I used to respect him.

Don't bother taunting me as I don't give a damn. I don't eat live SBF 555.

The objective of the forum is to share info and advise which I think a lot of lao Jiao forgot.

vbkk

12-01-2017, 02:08 AM

Glad u understand difference between a Coyote bar and gogo bar.
Some 'so called expert' coyote agents here don't understand that difference, and conflate the popularity of agogo bar (Baccara) to that of Coyote Bar (Arab bars). I believe these coyote bars feed off this confusion to steal customers looking to goto gogo bars....but of course thats my opinion which apparently not allowed here by 'so called expert' coyote agent/bar owner who will bully his opinion on you because he's been to Coyote bar more than all of us :) no conflict of interest here right

By the way, one reason i avoid Coyote bar such as Arab bar is because there is a long history of bill padding and false charges. if you don't believe read this article:

Of course 'so called expert' will say its not a scam and the customer's fault for not asking charges, or letting someone slip checks into your cup. I guess this is the additude and culture of these Coyote bars...blame the customer. What used to happen to 'the customer is always right"?

I have come this far to troll for the fact that someone/somebody thinks I represents the Arab bars. Which I purposely did not reveal until today to see how things will roll out. Lol. For those many who met me, all of them knows i ain't coyote agent for Arab bars. Lol. I wish I was. Because it's a huge piece of cake I would love to quadrupled my current income. Given my income now is already a lot. ;)

Sorry as much as it seems like I'm siding the Arab bars, but I have never supplied any to them. So much for the vested interest/income blah blah blah accusations that I trying to lure people in. Not sure how u get the info but for those who knows me, knows where I represent myself in 2015/2016 and currently 2017.

Got trolled really badly about how I try to defend those Arab bars which I dun earn a single cent from the bars/owners. Also I'm barred to enter some ;)

naemlo

12-01-2017, 02:34 AM

The objective of the forum is to share info and advise which I think a lot of lao Jiao forgot.

Maybe your so called "lao jiao" included me... :eek:

In virtual world, kindness is rarely or non reciprocate, worse kindness is taken for granted ... so it is up to anyone whether he wants to share. There is no rule in a forum stating, lao jiao or anyone must advise or answer when there is a question. Further to this, idiotic questions are always ask or demand, "what is ST?", "where to get a good f"...

I always state in this forum, if u want to enjoy mongering in a city, be hardworking, read up a bit. Search the forum or google. Dun give excuses, too busy.... everyone on this earth has 24 hrs. U can find time to f a ger but too busy to do research?? Frankly, if too busy then stay in hotel, do your work or watch Discovery.

To me, I was taught from this forum, kindness or helpful does not pay. Helped idiotic samsters countless times but end of the day, played out by them. 1 CB fucker, son of the bitch could even lie through his teeth. Now, my stand is always the same, read from the forum if too lazy then pay me, need help, pay me...

vbkk

12-01-2017, 02:40 AM

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I like to know what's the perks for booking under ISOtravel by paying extra $20 when I can always just walk into any g clubs and be issued a sales rep at the doorstep? Will the membership be cheaper? Will I get discounts? Or I will get free bonks if I booked under ISOtravel? :rolleyes:

Have anyone booked under ISOtravel and have any reviews? I dun mind paying extra $20 for special services. ;)

naemlo

12-01-2017, 02:50 AM

Wow this topic about coyote still not finished??? Continuation of part 2 or 3?? :D

Buying a drink for a gogo girl and more often than not, they are mostly only interested in ST/LT? Especially in baccara where they disappear less than 5mins after their drink if u dun BF them?

I know what u are driving at... customer has the choice of coyote for company n talk "love" but low possibility to bring out and straight bring out AGG ger.

Think u still dun get the idea of what lost99 wanted to say.... what he mentioned which I do agree is AGG is purely a sex bar. Go there, men want 99% possibility to bring the ger out for sex and not be fooled by buying LDs but end of the day, go back hotel and sleep alone... If these men want to find gers just to talk "love" then there is other venue for this.

Agree, Coyote in AGG bar just defeats the purpose. Am i allowed to have my own opinion here without any 'so called expert' shooting it down right away with one sided excuses?

I was conned yrs ago thinking the ger I was drinking with was able to bf. As I was waiting for friends to choose their gers, I spent a lot of money on LDs... end of the day, die cock standing.... she couldn't go out cause she told, she was a coyote, dun go out with customer. Of cause, I was angried but couldn't do anything.... conned. :D Learnt from there.

I just have to accept the fact, a lot of bars now get coyote... whether to hate it or love it, coyote will still be there. I prefer to buy LDs for the AGG ger... cause if I want, she will go back with me. Coyote, even with beauty super model look, I will reject.

vbkk

12-01-2017, 03:00 AM

Wow this topic about coyote still not finished??? Continuation of part 2 or 3??

I know what u are driving at... customer has the choice of coyote for company n talk "love" but low possibility to bring out and straight bring out AGG ger.

Think u still dun get the idea of what lost99 wanted to say.... what he mentioned which I do agree is AGG is purely a sex bar. Go there, men want 99% possibility to bring the ger out for sex and not be fooled by buying LDs but end of the day, go back hotel and sleep alone... If these men want to find gers just to talk "love" then there is other venue for this.

I was conned yrs ago thinking the ger I was drinking with was able to bf. As I was waiting for friends to choose their gers, I spent a lot of money on LDs... end of the day, die cock standing.... she couldn't go out cause she told, she was a coyote, dun go out with customer. Of cause, I was angried but couldn't do anything.... felt like been conned. Learnt from there.

I just have to accept the fact, a lot of bars now get coyote... whether to hate it or love it, coyote will still be there.

Was unavailable throughout the whole weekend. So came to conclude and not start a new chapter. Lol.

That's why I posted many times that if u want to go agogo bar, there's crazy house/ baccara / rainbow 1,2,3,5. The rest are mostly coyote and Ladyboy bars. Lol. Like it or not, many SG guys know where to go to talk "love" and find thai gfs at a particular coyote bar in cowboy. ;)

Here's a tip for the ones reading. Most coyotes still go with customers. Except for some Arab bars. Lol. If u are looking to go for LT at least 3-4 hours with a coyote, here's what u might want to do.

Hit the coyote bar and proposed a LT. within the working hours from 8pm-2am. Allow her to go back after 2am as most have thai bfs/tomboys waiting for them to go back together. If she likes u, she will squeeze a LT during her working hours to go with u. If not, u could only settle for a ST. just bring forward the hours of LT earlier.

TonyCheong2

12-01-2017, 03:14 AM

Zap me all you want as I wouldn't care less and I said it "Tony is damn childish" for doing what he did. I used to respect him.

Don't bother taunting me as I don't give a damn. I don't eat live SBF 555.

The objective of the forum is to share info and advise which I think a lot of lao Jiao forgot.

Someone's supporter lai liao 555. :D

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

norice

12-01-2017, 07:49 AM

Greetings!

I hate to repeat myself! If you want to have good time in Soi Cowboy, don't patronize Arab owned bars period! My favorite 2 bars in Soi Cowboy is Bacarra and Shark! Also, If you want to get your fingers wet, visit Crazy House!

But, if you want to save money and meet attractive SYTs that are better looking than coyotes, go straight to Thermae Coffee Shop! WSJ, states, "Thermae Coffee Shop has the most attractive freelancers in Southeast Asia!"

davvvid

12-01-2017, 12:31 PM

interesting recommendations you have bro. however I won't put Twister at the same level as it's more of a coyote bar.
agogo bar would be rainbow chains & baccara(soi cowboy).

like ur POV & honest CONTRIBUTIONS ~ up u 5pts.

reason I put twister is because they have topless girls. Agree its more of a coyote bar but its easier to play around with an already topless girl than with a girl in her bikini.

davvvid

12-01-2017, 12:51 PM

fucks sake guys. coyote bar, gogo bar, coyote girls, gogo girls, whatever the fuck name you are calling it, at the end of the day does it really fucking matter?!

Most of the people here already know which bars to go to and which bars to avoid. If you like to go to a bar with all topless girls, or girls that only wear bikinis, or bars that have barfines of 1k or bars with no barfines, or ladyboy bars, or even the arab bars, sure go ahead. No problem there. And if you end up buying plenty of LDs for a girl, only to find out that she cannot be barfined, well tough luck, thats your own fault. If you did not ask then the girl is not scamming you. She is doing her job. If you asked, and she lied and said yes she can be barfined, well thats a different story.

But if you cannot even take the slightest bit of being scammed in BKK, then just stay in your hotel room. If you get scammed by a taxi once, sure you will avoid that specific taxi, but will you boycott all the taxi's altogether?

At the end of the day, most of us are just looking to have fun and enjoy the night. No need to argue over minute details such as labels or particular girls.

There's so many types of adult entertainment in bangkok to suit everyones taste. If bars that typically employ girls that dont go with customers dont suit your taste, go somewhere else!

Lets all just agree to disagree.

kyc2110

12-01-2017, 01:01 PM

Who is this person you are talking about? with vested interest and always defending certain aspect, and shoot anyone down with different view? I don't see anyone so immature here

Agree, Coyote in AGG bar just defeats the purpose. Am i allowed to have my own opinion here without any 'so called expert' shooting it down right away with one sided excuses?
Pai seh all bro here , hijack a bit! Your sig put to pm you for exchange but ppl pm you, you also ignored ler:cool:

vbkk

12-01-2017, 01:15 PM

Pai seh all bro here , hijack a bit! Your sig put to pm you for exchange but ppl pm you, you also ignored ler

Does that considered a scam as well? :eek: letting others think u are open for exchange but end up no response. What's the point of putting up signs/Sig?

kelthai

12-01-2017, 02:14 PM

Looks good.. share share.. :D:D

when you come to bkk? let's party ;)

kelthai

12-01-2017, 02:28 PM

guess where is this place? i love bar girls ;)

https://i.imgsafe.org/720eb114f1.jpg

norice

12-01-2017, 06:21 PM

Kelthai,
She's a supermodel from Catherine Massage!

vbkk

12-01-2017, 07:07 PM

guess where is this place? i love bar girls

Khun kelthai, I'm pretty sure u urself also duno where is this place. Lol.

Kelthai,
She's a supermodel from Catherine Massage!

Khun norice, u wish she was a supermodel from Catherine massage!:rolleyes: Maybe bro Davvid can attest to the qualities at Catherine since he was duped to make a trip there sometime ago. Lol. :D

lost99

12-01-2017, 08:02 PM

Does that considered a scam as well? :eek: letting others think u are open for exchange but end up no response. What's the point of putting up signs/Sig?

No. That person never even PM'd me, but i exchange anyways in good faith.

My definition of scam involves a financial transaction. An example is saying you will pay to fly a certain member from China to BKK to meet with you, and then backing out. Another example is a Coyote dancer in a Gogo Bar, which dresses, dances, and essentially looks like a Gogo dancer, and entices customer to buy higher-priced lady drinks, when there is no chance they can be barfined, or only barfined at exorbitant price which effectively precludes it. This is explained below for those interested:

The Confusing Coyote Concept
https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly-column/2012/11/the-confusing-coyote-concept/

That's just my personal opinion on Coyote dancer. Some people may enjoy this and disagree with me, its their prerogative. If you are mature enough, you can accept that's my opinion and we can agree to disagree.

However, if you want to continue dragging this discussion to the level of insults, off-topic color, bullying, and research past history to form personal attacks to other members who simply have a difference of opinion; that speaks more to the type of character you are, and its already obvious to all reading. In fact, I only got involved here because you stooped to this level to discredit another member by researching business history and spreading lies and hearsay. I don't need to 'end' this discussion to proove my point, by all means feel free to bury yourself even further :D

motodiary

12-01-2017, 08:51 PM

guess where is this place? i love bar girls ;)

https://i.imgsafe.org/720eb114f1.jpg

should be one of the girl in those pub cum restaurant at Ramintra Kaset Nawamin during one of the theme night.

smile_santa

12-01-2017, 08:54 PM