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Yellowbird
31-03-2008, 11:17 PM
Dear bros,

My wife and I are married for 5 yrs already, ever since the first time we have sex, she has been behaving like a dead fish. I am alway the one who 'service' her, all she did was moaning and do nothing

I even play XXX movie to let her see, so she can at least 'learn', but to no result. She dont even like to touch my penis, she said she don't like to touch. Everytime we have sex, she only want man on top position. I alway made sure she cum first before me because i believe in both of us should enjoy sex together but i doubt she think the same like me.

So I want to ask any bro here have same problem like me? If yes, how u solve the problem?

colins
01-04-2008, 04:16 AM
I think the bros from the 'dead fish' thread should learn from the 'is my gf an ex-fl?' thread and vice versa.

Sorry bro to crack a silly joke at your expense. One question, in your normal day life, are you also the one giving while she's the one receiving? I think many couples regularly bring their norms to bed as well.

You probably need to find out a few things first, is she under an impression that sex is taboo or should have strict SOP or men's job? These are mindset that really impedes her from even believing sex can be fun.

Maybe you should try to initiate sex at different place in the house (if permitted of cos), the first being the bathroom. If at all times, sex happens only on the same old bed, then its also the same old sex. At least in the bath or for example in the living room, she can't just lie down.

Talk dirty before you do it, I mean dun terrify her by saying you want to eat her pussy now when you all are having dinner, but take it one step at a time, like while you watching tv just tell her she makes you want to have sex this moment becos she looks very different today and then do it there and then.

There was this time when my (now) ex was chatting online and playing games in the study, I went and ask her to sit on my laps while I watch her play. Then I automatically rabba her (I always like the neck area) and whsper into her ears, actually was without any devious intention, but after 20 minutes she said lets do it now. The whole session was on that chair.

Hope it helps bro. You probably want to time it during her ovulating period when she is more open to sex though.

delson
01-04-2008, 05:40 AM
Can you endure 1 month without sex? See what is her reaction.

haha good suggestion bro!

anyway bro yellowbird, care to tell us how you actually service your wife? maybe more bros here can give some tips or guidance to make her feel better. :)

woogieboogie
01-04-2008, 08:10 AM
Maybe she doesnt feel like doing it at that time. Find something interesting to turn her on

liberatte
01-04-2008, 08:34 AM
Buy whip and leather! *nah... just kidding...

Anyhow, dead fish is usually due to naiveness and she may not know how much that she's missing out. From what the TS has described, he's only doing missionary... just basic poke poke poke. Well, try foreplay. She don't have to react much.... but you do your foreplay with her... ;) There was a thread a long time ago (dunno if its still there) on giving your partner an orgasm without penetration. Read and learn bro.

Let me relate to my gf (now wife). Initially she also dead fish. But after a while, I was inventing new styles asking her to try. Then, go to a few MP and learn some 'skills' and do some massages on her. I broke the ice one day by telling my gf that I wanted to do it with her clothes on... just took out her panties and bonked in the hall. Anyway, don't just reserve having sex at night when both of you are tired...

clan004
01-04-2008, 08:47 AM
For some goody two shoes chabor, I think they have this feeling that making love is sex and is 'dirty' .. so maybe you might want a change of tact .. make her realise that it is normal and that sex is ok etc etc

PeteTsang69
01-04-2008, 09:45 AM
[QUOTE=Yellowbird;2672659]
I even play XXX movie to let her see, so she can at least 'learn', but to no result. [QUOTE]

bro, take it easy, she ain't gonna change bcos of a movie

its obvious she as psychological issues to resolve.. .
swallow your pride, and both seek counselling
she needs to understand that sex is natural & enjoyable & necessary for EVERYONE

don't suffer the same mistake as me
bcos of pride & thinking of not pressurising her i kept silent for 12 years
now looking back, i see that i was a STUPID MARTYR
i should hv spoken up . . .i dun blame her . . .i take full responsiblity for my inaction

i am now in a situation i would never have imagine to happen, but i can see that its natural to happen. i met someone else i like, getting the lovin' that i wasn't gettin' from my partner. . . all due OUR POOR COMMUNICATION

Now busy trying to nagivate my way thru the mess i created . . .:rolleyes:

SDMM
01-04-2008, 09:45 AM
Initiate foreplay and nothing else. Keep doing this and sooner or later, she will get so horny and will do something for you to get you to move to the next step

sammyboyfor
01-04-2008, 09:47 AM
Dear bros,

My wife and I are married for 5 yrs already, ever since the first time we have sex, she has been behaving like a dead fish.

As long as she doesn't smell like a dead fish, consider yourself lucky. :p

Wives are not for casual bonking my friend. They are there to make your babies and look after them once they're born.

If you want some fun, fuck a whore instead.

Xiao Hei
01-04-2008, 10:11 AM
Boss you promoting extra marital affairs here :eek: I thought all along your stand is to stay faithful to the wife ...

johntan_68
01-04-2008, 10:23 AM
Dear bros,

My wife and I are married for 5 yrs already, ever since the first time we have sex, she has been behaving like a dead fish. I am alway the one who 'service' her, all she did was moaning and do nothing

I even play XXX movie to let her see, so she can at least 'learn', but to no result. She dont even like to touch my penis, she said she don't like to touch. Everytime we have sex, she only want man on top position. I alway made sure she cum first before me because i believe in both of us should enjoy sex together but i doubt she think the same like me.

So I want to ask any bro here have same problem like me? If yes, how u solve the problem?

Yellowbird bro, dont worry. You arent alone here. I suffered the same as you! I always named my wife "(Dead Log) fucking you like motionless just moaning your way thru. You never initiate sex and I was the one to my 1st move. Unlike my other friends wife can initiate sex to their husband or acting desire, passionate and wanted more; but you never and dont?" :mad:

I have been married since year 2000 and since given birth in late 2006. She has been busy taking care of our Newborn & 17 months old girls now, work and other house work. She always complained headache, body-ache, tired and suffered insomia. I have been silent and not forcing her to get intimate cos I was thinking, there wldnt be any fun & enjoyment at All when she is not well...This always went On...and I knew the same old story from her side. Since late 2006, we only had twice intercourse and both failed on me to perform. Dont ask me why? Maybe I have lost interest having sex with my own wife cos I feel I was the one servicing her all the time and she just lay down like a FL. I was feeling so high during our passionates kisses & foreplay with my brother rock harden. She does touch my penis during her our foreplay & even tickle my nips but she doesnt like doggy/ sit on me, prefers missionary. Last 2 times, my insertion was fine and few poke...poke & poke even created her pussy became so wet! However, something not right for me lah? My bro gradually soften up and loosing stamina. This doesnt happen to me with the SYT FL, I enjoyed myself with them and last longer.:confused: After last 2 attempt, I put a stop having sex with her for coming 3 months already and she acting normal. Dont see if she needed to be pleased or wanted to ve intercourse? I am very close to my mother, I always share with her anything since I was younger and I am also her favourite son of other brother. She told me, "I think your wife something wrong with her sex hormone or is she not interested with sex?" I said, I dont know! My mom added, "so funny. You didnt touch her and ask for sex she also acts blur. Why dont you try not doing anything for sometime, let observe if she wants SEX." After a long wait, back to square 1 (Not asking & Crazy Desire....trying to act cool). I also sian oredi! I will DIY myself or pay a little for a SYT recommended by some Senior Bros to me? I have set my mentality, even no sex with my wife. I am feeling contented by other pleasure. I dont mind sharing with the bros here. I kenak caught by my wife watching AV on my computer, she doesnt react anything, feeling mad and scolded me. I think she knew I needed these Stereote. Hahahah......:D

acer1714
01-04-2008, 10:27 AM
Bro johntan, i really empathy with you.....i cant imagine same thing happen to me,espeically i really love her,i think i will suffer depression....:(

da jie
01-04-2008, 10:33 AM
Hmm, this is indeed a 'tragedy', I suggest you go seek counselling with your wife as this is the sort of thing that lead to breakups ... if you really love her, should really have heart to heart talk with her and emphasize the fact that this is a basic need ...

smellycat
01-04-2008, 10:51 AM
maybe its due to her family background or some problems in the past? did you try talking to her about it? :rolleyes: try to arrange something different like surprise weekend getaways, some sex toys or play dress-up to spice up the atmosphere ;)

PeteTsang69
01-04-2008, 11:04 AM
I have been married since year 2000 and since given birth in late 2006. She has been busy taking care of our Newborn & 17 months old girls now, work and other house work. She always complained headache, body-ache, tired and suffered insomia.

Bro . . .cool down a bit :)
i been there. . .but it is a medical fact that hormones after birth take months to get back to normal to prevent preganancy too soon . . .

but having said that, she should get back to normal by now. . . now she's just using the baby as an excuse to DENY BOTH yourselves of a NATURAL & ENJOYABLE & NECESSARY part of life
again i say, seek counselling so u hv a neutral 3rd party telling her that she needs to get back on track - without ego or guilt bashing by either parties
dun suffer in silence like i did, and let your marriage slide . . .its TOO EASY TO DO NOTHING

ziyi
01-04-2008, 11:14 AM
Agree with bros here that TS should seek counselling as soon as possible and have a heart to heart talk wif OC ..

ASAHI_GLASS
01-04-2008, 11:29 AM
Most probably your wife feels like making love to you nowadays is just her "duty" or it is just a routine. Bro my suggestion is spend more time with your wife, bring her to places that you all used to visit when you "pak tor" with her and try to rekindle the kind of love and passion both of you used to have. Surprise her by buying small gifts for her once a while. I personally face this kind of problem about 2 years ago. We were married for 8 years then and our kid is about 5 years old, went for counseling and took up some advise from friends who face marriage problem but managed to salvage the marriage after both parties put in effort to make the relationship works out again. Just my humble opinion :)

Menthol Lights
01-04-2008, 11:42 AM
Dear bros,

My wife and I are married for 5 yrs already, ever since the first time we have sex, she has been behaving like a dead fish. I am alway the one who 'service' her, all she did was moaning and do nothing


So I want to ask any bro here have same problem like me? If yes, how u solve the problem?

i think you should have a heart to heart with your wife to find out the problem or go for a marriage counselling. hope eventually everything goes well for you.

scott999
01-04-2008, 02:59 PM
ever since the first time we have sex, she has been behaving like a dead fish.

If you already felt this way, what are the chances your wife feels likewise about you?

I am alway the one who 'service' her, all she did was moaning and do nothing


What do you expect her to do or respond?
Act like a pornstar, scream "fcuk me deeper", "ram hard into my ass", "cum in my mouth"?

In a previous thread, a samster suspected her gf to be FL-ing as she was too professional in bed and more skillful than him.


I even play XXX movie to let her see, so she can at least 'learn', but to no result.

XXX movies are meant primarily for pleasure, enjoyment and entertainment.
Sex education was never the main intended purpose.

So I want to ask any bro here have same problem like me? If yes, how u solve the problem?

I suggest you n wife go for sex counseling to find out the real problem.

Si Geena
01-04-2008, 03:38 PM
Sorry if I sound harsh, but why didn't you test-drive before signing the contract?

If you don't test-drive, and the driving experience is important to you, then it's quite a poor case of judgement.

On the other hand, maybe she's watching too much Jap pr0n. Japanese sex is about the girl lying there and moaning away, that's why they call girls Maguro, literally Tuna. The man must initiate always, in fact the man is the one who will manipulate the Maguro into position as well.

da jie
01-04-2008, 04:05 PM
Not all gers let you test drive .... maybe he din have chance to test drive ...
And even if you test drive, it doesnt mean after marriage it will perform the same ... on hind sight we can say alot of things, but what should be done now is solve the problem first and later can see what went wrong

Frankiestine
01-04-2008, 04:53 PM
alamak bro dun worry lah same old story...many married men face this issue...that why fl are there for us to relieve our fustration..

Yellowbird
01-04-2008, 09:22 PM
Dear Bros,

Thanks for your replies. Sometimes, I really don't like making love to her at all, I don;t enjoy at all although I did cum at the end of the day. I alway made sure she cummed first by giving her oral sex, masterbate etc. All the things that I knew, I have already tried. She dont like girl on top, don't like doggie, basically everything except me on top her.

I am seriourly thinking of going to fl in future to sextify myself. I will stop making love to her for maybe half a year and see what happen..

PeteTsang69
02-04-2008, 05:27 AM
I alway made sure she cummed first by giving her oral sex, masterbate etc. All the things that I knew, I have already tried. She dont like girl on top, don't like doggie, basically everything except me on top her. . . .I am seriourly thinking of going to fl in future to sextify myself. I will stop making love to her for maybe half a year and see what happen..

bro . . .dun start if you can . . .delay it . . cos hard to turn back

COMMUNICATE with her . . .seriously go for counselling to get neutral 3rd party to intervene without each others ego & guilt . . duns start FL

DUN NEED THESE MIND GAMES of TESTING HER

Cos u got it better than me and still have chance . . .mine only do if want to have kids . . .even only then dun like frenching, touch nips, touch breast, only recently allow licking her, missionary only NO FOREPLAY from her at all, i gotta all the work, definetly NO BJ, no cathbath . . .rub her clit like 1-2 mins "Come in quick before it gets to big", but she's still half wet only . . ."Dun take too long i can't breathe" . . "cumming yet?" . . .sigh :(

Tho she's a good partner in every other aspect . . .this is not a FULL life for me . . . i regret not addressing this 12 years ago . . .now am not sure if i want to do it now, cos i started to look elsewhere . . found by accident i fell for someone . . .tho she not sure about me . . it does not really matter now . . cos if not her, it will be somebody else. . . . i now realised that i had an emotional void all these years & living a HALF life, WHAT A WASTE . . . coincidently, look at Bro Dirtyhairy . . . now that's a LIFE . . .

geniusme28
02-04-2008, 07:58 AM
Dear bros,

My wife and I are married for 5 yrs already, ever since the first time we have sex, she has been behaving like a dead fish. I am alway the one who 'service' her, all she did was moaning and do nothing
/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=johntan_68;2673489]Yellowbird bro, dont worry. You arent alone here. I suffered the same as you! I always named my wife "(Dead Log) fucking you like motionless just moaning your way thru.

At least your wives still moans, what if they just lie down, spread legs and stars into blank space?

I dont mind sharing with the bros here.

Sorry, what are you sharing here?:rolleyes:

da jie
02-04-2008, 08:26 AM
Wow so many 'dead fish' around, so this might be one of main reason guys are turning to WLs. Straits Times should have an article on this so maybe gers can wake up and not just keeping pointing at men and perform their duties too.

Cyberspace Nerd
02-04-2008, 02:06 PM
Lucky my girl friend is a "lively" fish and always initiates sex. :D

da jie
02-04-2008, 02:12 PM
Like that do you still 'cheong' ... :D

Cyberspace Nerd
02-04-2008, 02:13 PM
Cos u got it better than me and still have chance . . .mine only do if want to have kids . . .even only then dun like frenching, touch nips, touch breast, only recently allow licking her, missionary only NO FOREPLAY from her at all, i gotta all the work, definetly NO BJ, no cathbath . . .rub her clit like 1-2 mins "Come in quick before it gets to big", but she's still half wet only . . ."Dun take too long i can't breathe" . . "cumming yet?" . . .sigh :(

.

This is shocking. For me no matter how good a wife she is in other aspect, if she behaves like that, I dont think I want such a wife.

Cyberspace Nerd
02-04-2008, 02:15 PM
Like that do you still 'cheong' ... :D

how to cheong when everytime she meets me also wanna have sex with me? even when she got period she also cheong me....blow job/ handjob... I got no chance to cheong at all.....no more energy :p

da jie
02-04-2008, 02:41 PM
:eek: me very envious leh .... :D

Frankiestine
02-04-2008, 04:39 PM
Sorry if I sound harsh, but why didn't you test-drive before signing the contract?


test drive no guarantee, even sent for regular servicing still can "break down"....mine used to be a high performance one but after marriage now slow down to a crawl...so bo bian cannot afford to everyday change new model...so do the next best thing...once in a while take "public transport"..:D:D

people power
02-04-2008, 04:44 PM
Bro you are absolutely right ... that is usually the case, after too much usage initially, it will tend to have more problems, and depending on models and warranty, can be 3 or 5 years .... :)

Hellfire79
02-04-2008, 04:47 PM
test drive no guarantee, even sent for regular servicing still can "break down"....mine used to be a high performance one but after marriage now slow down to a crawl...so bo bian cannot afford to everyday change new model...so do the next best thing...once in a while take "public transport"..:D:D

Well said.....me up yr pt...:D

Frankiestine
02-04-2008, 04:48 PM
Bro you are absolutely right ... that is usually the case, after too much usage initially, it will tend to have more problems, and depending on models and warranty, can be 3 or 5 years .... :)

Ya lor problem is warranty expire the minute contract sign....:(

people power
02-04-2008, 04:54 PM
Wow bro yours is bad, worse than handphone (1yr), mine was like a couple of years .... , at least for me, warranty was like for 7years ... aka 7year itch ... :D

Drone Bee
02-04-2008, 06:46 PM
So I want to ask any bro here have same problem like me? If yes, how u solve the problem?

Don't have the same problem as still single but would strongly recommend going for commcerial sex. At least you get what you pay for... Unless you get another dead fish.:(

da jie
02-04-2008, 07:07 PM
bro drone bee, you are right, go for WLs, worse is get dead fish again ... that will be double whammy :eek:

vero
02-04-2008, 07:55 PM
Let me add myself to the statistics of having a dead fish wife. Worst still I not only get a dead fish but a dead mute one!

No actions and not even a moan...

If not for WL, I'm no different than a monk.

johntan_68
02-04-2008, 10:49 PM
maybe its due to her family background or some problems in the past? did you try talking to her about it? :rolleyes: try to arrange something different like surprise weekend getaways, some sex toys or play dress-up to spice up the atmosphere ;)

Bro, she came from a conservative family/ parents. I am not allowed to talk dirty or talk dirty jokes in front of them or with her other family Uncles, Aunties and cousins. Stress huh? :( But I am now used to it but still feeling not ME! I am an outspoken person who loves to talk dirty stories with friends & my immediate family. In front of her family, I felt that I am ALL Acting out to be a good boy, well-mannered and discipline. Sian sial?:o

johntan_68
02-04-2008, 11:11 PM
Most probably your wife feels like making love to you nowadays is just her "duty" or it is just a routine. Bro my suggestion is spend more time with your wife, bring her to places that you all used to visit when you "pak tor" with her and try to rekindle the kind of love and passion both of you used to have. Surprise her by buying small gifts for her once a while. I personally face this kind of problem about 2 years ago. We were married for 8 years then and our kid is about 5 years old, went for counseling and took up some advise from friends who face marriage problem but managed to salvage the marriage after both parties put in effort to make the relationship works out again. Just my humble opinion :)

Thanks Bro Asahi. Much appreciated by your advice overcoming your experience.
Our Sex life maybe slowed/ never happen now? But, our marriage remained strong and we still enjoy each other companionship. We still do lots of kisses, frenching, hugging and cuddle around...;) Except sometimes cos of our young children matter, we cld get Heat Up easily from frustration and scolded each other & arguement. She used to work at MNC and carried a High responsibilities and position doing budgeting for Asian Market. During those Cheong Days, irregardless how tired she was; we still had great Sexes, we were Super horny especially during wkend bonking in the morning before brushing our teeth, afternoon and evening 2-3 times a day? Now she has quited her job to be a Fulltime mother taking care of Twins girls, probably more tiring than her MNC job and more sleepless nights with their cries at night! Bro Asahi, I knew she went through a lot facing 2 young babies at the same time and I know it isnt easy handling 2 and not 1? Many people told me, taking care of only 1 baby is bad enough to give everyone headache. Not to mention, you have TWO now? :p
Dont worry, I will be OK! Thanks for All Bros advise.

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02-04-2008, 11:48 PM
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dirtyhairy
03-04-2008, 04:46 PM
bro . . .dun start if you can . . .delay it . . cos hard to turn back...COMMUNICATE with her . . .seriously go for counselling to get neutral 3rd party to intervene without each others ego & guilt . . duns start FL ... Cos u got it better than me and still have chance . . .mine only do if want to have kids . . .even only then dun like frenching, touch nips, touch breast, only recently allow licking her, missionary only NO FOREPLAY from her at all, i gotta all the work, definetly NO BJ, no cathbath . . .rub her clit like 1-2 mins... Tho she's a good partner in every other aspect . . .this is not a FULL life for me . . . i regret not addressing this 12 years ago . . .now am not sure if i want to do it now, cos i started to look elsewhere . . . i now realised that i had an emotional void all these years & living a HALF life, WHAT A WASTE . . . coincidently, look at Bro Dirtyhairy . . . now that's a LIFE . . .



Yo Bro TS and PeterTsang especially,
and to those bros who felt shortchanged by their wifeys
all you guys and your women deserve my sympathy
to be fair, before you point the finger at your ladies
they could have been hit by "post-natal blues" that can affect them dearly
some so bad mentally after child birth especially,
tat they have suicide tendencies, which happen to some actually
so even if you'r angry, maybe it's fair to talk and find out more from your lady
and slowly, slowly, instead of pointing your finger at her accusingly
why not finger her pussy and make her all gooey and sexy
Sure, it's not easy, but if there's love, then good sex is still a possibility
oso, we should never blame the woman only
what happens if the guy is at fault, suffers from fast-cummy or impotency?
unlike shortchanged guys who can sextisfy thru FLs, it's harder for the ladies
so, to keep the sex going, me thinks communication is the key
talk, humour, bluff, show off but concentrate on conquering that pussy
whether it becums a salivating bitch in heat, all eager tom please your didi
or ending up like a smelly ikan sudah mati,
it will depend on how nice you treat that pussy
for DHairy aka Laobaby, this was what had happened to me
alto very pretty, me PRC lady divorcee was cool towards sex initially
all due to her being sickly and oso the ill-treatment by her former hubby
but once she was shown the joys of sex, gee she's not only a good fuckee
she's better physically and mentally, giving as much and as hard to my didi:p
so dun give up, stay focus, spice things up and see
your lady may be change into a wanton tigress from cowed kitty!:D

Tutta
07-04-2008, 04:54 AM
Welcome to life after marriage :)
Before And After Marriage Jokes (http://BeforeAndAfterMarriage.com)

easyeasy
07-04-2008, 01:03 PM
Ya lor problem is warranty expire the minute contract sign....:(

complaint to CASE:D

ChinaPussy
07-04-2008, 06:15 PM
Haha good one, but what happen if fine print says limited warranty for one minute after ROM nia .. :eek:

Gentle Beast
07-04-2008, 09:24 PM
Wives are not for casual bonking my friend. They are there to make your babies and look after them once they're born.

If you want some fun, fuck a whore instead.

Over to the whore who has a high sex drive will also agree that she'll be getting all the sex she wants as guys are much better in bed with a whore than their wives or girlfriends :D

(Words from Child maths prodigy turn prostitute Sufiah Yusof)

twinseeker
10-04-2008, 12:52 PM
Sometimes there's need to play mind games with the lady of the house. Some say they appreciate being taunted and teased long before bedroom action starts. Some appreciate horny sms to arouse curiosity and anticipation, others say phone sex at mid day can also warm things up for the actions at night.

We can exploiting chances to inject some foreplay at our convenience.

KingBong
10-04-2008, 06:36 PM
It's very mental thing. For most guys,they enjoy the act of intercourse.Whereas women are different,the "feeling" is more important.If a guy can cum,the mission is completed.But for women they want to have the right feelings before they are into sex.Big question is what is the feeling, that's where you have to work on it to find out.If you don't know what turns yr spouse on,I don't blame him or her being a sleeping partner only ;)

SeAHuM
10-04-2008, 11:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteTsang69
Cos u got it better than me and still have chance . . .mine only do if want to have kids . . .even only then dun like frenching, touch nips, touch breast, only recently allow licking her, missionary only NO FOREPLAY from her at all, i gotta all the work, definetly NO BJ, no cathbath . . .rub her clit like 1-2 mins "Come in quick before it gets to big", but she's still half wet only . . ."Dun take too long i can't breathe" . . "cumming yet?" . . .sigh


Wow bro, this is classic, "come in quick before it gets too big" !!!! especially