More Cheebye AngMos Cheonging in ChangPing?

[chonburiboy]

Nowadays, I keep seeing more and more cheebye Angmos in ChangPing. The last trip at Jia Yi, saw two fat bastard AngMos with a Singaporean.

At Virgin sauna, saw another Keling and an Angmo there. The girls there told me there has been many Kelings and Angmos coming here..chee bye. She told me these foreigners are brought here by Singaporeans.

I have nothing to hide that I hate these cheebye Angmos coming to cheong in Asia. The worst is they will never be able to know these places unless some old horses bought them (Who are KNN Singaporeans or HongKies).

Any bros share my Da-Shiokness?:mad:

P.S. Only in Japan that they forbid non-Japanese to enjoy their women. I really respect that.

[roninxxx]

I'm with you, bro...

[boobiieee]

Yes, agree CP is getting quite commercialised. My last trip managed to spot one or two Ang Mo in tao yuan ktv. I hope the situation does not get worse, this place is a haven for us hope it does not spoilt by the foreigners too.

[BBSS]

Dear Bro,

I am also with you. I always call angmo lasup(Dirty). Those KNN. \
Just let me review a encounter. I was in Vietnam(HCM) buying a bus ticket, can;t remember to where. Just imagine thwe angmo queueing up tell the counter staff. AngMo say: Can cheaper by USD2 or not since your bus is so empty still have so many empty seats. KNN. No money then just walk la.

Another article I read b4 is they station in Thailand and do their own business like being a business consultant or something like that. But actually most of them staying there is bcos of the low living standard and how they earn their money for pussy and drinks is to giving name cards saying they consultant lor and advise you on how to set up business.

And also remember the last yr incident angmo cheeby take the trishaw and dun pay? Fuck up la.

[HoustonBoy]

Yes, agree CP is getting quite commercialised. My last trip managed to spot one or two Ang Mo in tao yuan ktv. I hope the situation does not get worse, this place is a haven for us hope it does not spoilt by the foreigners too.

I'm afraid it's only going to get worse. The Dong Guan section is by far the most popular of the China section on internationalsexguide dot info which is teeming with Laowai. The wealth of information out there (travel, hotel, etc) made it possible for any foreigner who don't speak a word of Chinese be able to find this haven of joy.

[GTOKING]

I'm afraid it's only going to get worse. The Dong Guan section is by far the most popular of the China section on internationalsexguide dot info which is teeming with Laowai. The wealth of information out there (travel, hotel, etc) made it possible for any foreigner who don't speak a word of Chinese be able to find this haven of joy.

Agreed your statement, the forum got one guys id : sugar papa , he screw more than 300 girl in CP and record down all the video ........knn , in fact the lao yai had known the place few year ago la.......

now a day not only the lao yai , african , arab , also have...........

thats why I 'm now look for new place to cheong rather than go and fight with the lao yai

[LaoHuangGua]

I am sitting here, imagining myself in CP being a local and watching all these foreigners – Singaporeans, Malaysians, Americans, British, Australians etc… and even Hongkees (although they are now legally part of China) and Taiwanese (even though their leaders pretend to be a ruling a different country) – all bonking our SYTs. Some damn loud too and bragging online about their conquests with pictures and video some more ala Edison Chen. They used to be all of same yellow skin but speaking Chinese with funny accents, but now we have whites and blacks… in increasing numbers! Shit, what’s the gahmen or Party going to do about “protecting” our MMs from all these foreigners? Maybe should learn from the Japs – no foreigner and dog allowed.:D

[logiteck]

Nowadays, I keep seeing more and more cheebye Angmos in ChangPing. The last trip at Jia Yi, saw two fat bastard AngMos with a Singaporean.

At Virgin sauna, saw another Keling and an Angmo there. The girls there told me there has been many Kelings and Angmos coming here..chee bye. She told me these foreigners are brought here by Singaporeans.

I have nothing to hide that I hate these cheebye Angmos coming to cheong in Asia. The worst is they will never be able to know these places unless some old horses bought them (Who are KNN Singaporeans or HongKies).

Any bros share my Da-Shiokness?:mad:

P.S. Only in Japan that they forbid non-Japanese to enjoy their women. I really respect that.


KNNBCCB fuck those kelings and angmo esp those FT in SG!
see them in cp pay the thugs to take them out! song bo?

[Sinoview]

Agreed your statement, the forum got one guys id : sugar papa , he screw more than 300 girl in CP and record down all the video ........knn , in fact the lao yai had known the place few year ago la.......



No lah NOT CP.

This Ang mo Sugar papa is based in Bejing n the events are taken in BJ.
He speak almost perfect Putonhua.... wif Bj accent.

[adidas88]

Another article I read b4 is they station in Thailand and do their own business like being a business consultant or something like that. But actually most of them staying there is bcos of the low living standard and how they earn their money for pussy and drinks is to giving name cards saying they consultant lor and advise you on how to set up business.

And also remember the last yr incident angmo cheeby take the trishaw and dun pay? Fuck up la.

totally agreed with u .... those farangs in thailand r actually hopeless group of ppl taking advantage of thailand naive thinking & culture ...
most MPs in BKK do not really welcome them but they cannot chase them out thus they will quote a very high price on the massage gals to them ...
even the massage gals do not like these farangs or ME guys ... they always take thai ppls inferior than them ... KNN these farangs and ME ...

[sex crusader]

Agreed that CP is quite commercialised. I now moving to CA.The gal there less pretty but homely.:D

[remyken]

wahlau eh sian 1/2 liao lah...

Sad to say this is happening but we got no means to stop it :(

what’s the gahmen or Party going to do about “protecting” our MMs from all these foreigners? Maybe should learn from the Japs – no foreigner and dog allowed.

Maybe they should start the cultural revolution again? :eek:

[remyken]

paiseh paiseh double post

[remyken]

double post. paiseh

[remyken]

Btw sometimes i also damn dulan those Ktvs/saunas management, even those MMs. To me, pride in oneself is equally as impt as $$$ (Not say got $$$ then muz earn rite? Knn, pay them $$$ ask them let dog fuck, ai mai?) Those non-Chinese get to fuck MMs there bcos those MMs are willing party too...

Maybe next time we mass boycott those establishment that serves non-chinese, make them no biz do. We'll make them see our 'da-shiokness' ???
Cos from wat i know, in japan, japanese dun visit those estab. that serve gai-jin in roppongi-japan. Maybe we can do that too......

Anybros here got other thoughts???

I hate to see china turning to be like thailand... :(

[chonburiboy]

Bro, actually the MMS quite helpless one. The ones I talked to, told me if they don't serve the cheebye AngMos and kenna complained they get into trouble with the management.

I think it is the management fault lah, not the MMs. If there is an establishment in CP that says "Asians Only" - I will support 100% and I think other Asians will support too. I know from friends in Hong Kong and Taiwan, they also don't like cheebye AngMos around.

Like I said, I respect the Japanese in this area.


Btw sometimes i also damn dulan those Ktvs/saunas management, even those MMs. To me, pride in oneself is equally as impt as $$$ (Not say got $$$ then muz earn rite? Knn, pay them $$$ ask them let dog fuck, ai mai?) Those non-Chinese get to fuck MMs there bcos those MMs are willing party too...

Maybe next time we mass boycott those establishment that serves non-chinese, make them no biz do. We'll make them see our 'da-shiokness' ???
Cos from wat i know, in japan, japanese dun visit those estab. that serve gai-jin in roppongi-japan. Maybe we can do that too......

Anybros here got other thoughts???

I hate to see china turning to be like thailand... :(

[chonburiboy]

Bro, these cheebye AngMos have laws in their country against going to other country for sex.

It is easiler just to snap them in action with little girls or underage girls and post on the internet. After a while, no AngMos will dare to go liao!;)


KNNBCCB fuck those kelings and angmo esp those FT in SG!
see them in cp pay the thugs to take them out! song bo?

[loumin]

dear cheongters,

i support what you guys saying but there is the whole mountain out there, no one can stop anyone from going anyway. further more, our dear Sammy forum is so popular that ang mo will come and read and learn from the this place, and proceed to those recommended places. haha.

2cents worth.

[Heavenly Sword]

Maybe next time we mass boycott those establishment that serves non-chinese, make them no biz do. We'll make them see our 'da-shiokness' ???
Cos from wat i know, in japan, japanese dun visit those estab. that serve gai-jin in roppongi-japan. Maybe we can do that too......

Anybros here got other thoughts???

I hate to see china turning to be like thailand... :(

I hate to see that too! But sometimes hard as we all know how wonderful PRC meimeis can be. :(

In the past PRCs won't do darkies but these days... hard to say so long as $ is good.

[Huzige]

While I would defend all the brothers’ right to express their opinions, I am somewhat disappointed by the comments so far. Then again, I believe the silent majority is probably ignoring these comments.

I have been to Japan & Korean regularly in the past umpteen years and I hate the “discrimination” practiced by some places where they do not welcome foreigners. According to my local friends, I even “look” like a local and I went into such places with them out of curiosity but pretending to be a deaf. Needless to say, I never went back again.

I am of the opinion that Ang-mohs, blacks and ME have as much right as anyone else to be wherever they are – and they are subject to the same laws as everyone else. I am a regular at CP and I dislike the sight of Ang-mohs walking down the main Zhong-yuan Street with a MM in each arm in broad day-light. This is not because he is an Ang-moh but because he has not been discreet and he thinks he is in Pattaya without realizing the “risk” he is exposing himself too. And I hate it as much when I see a big group of Singaporean/Malaysian walking through Yalang – loud and ya-ya, often with the MMs they already picked – it is the same thing, the indiscretions. Such acts will some times attract the attention of GA and enough complaints from “someone” will cause GAs to act. Some of you will remember the result of the big Taiwanese “base-ball playing” group in HH and other places in CP, and the old cheongsters all know what happened to Sazui in Shenzhen when more Ang-mohs are seen hanging out in the area. And of ‘cos the incident with the Japs in Zhuhai that caught international attention. Mainland Chinese like “face” too. They all know it is there and illegal – but they leave it alone because of self-interests until someone came along to “screw” it up by being indiscrete or loud. In fact, catching the attention of GAs is not so bad, as they get dealt with by laws. But catching the attention of the local gangsters is another story.

Brothers – it is a globalize world, be more tolerant. If you don’t like what you see, just vote with your feet and avoid the establishments or towns that cater to the people you dislike – be it yellow, black, white or whatever. Or avoid CP and go somewhere else – after all, CP is a tourist place these days! Like everywhere in China, “RedMao” is still the King!

Just my 2-fen worth lah!

[Rainman]

Brothers – it is a globalize world, be more tolerant. If you don’t like what you see, just vote with your feet and avoid the establishments or towns that cater to the people you dislike – be it yellow, black, white or whatever. Or avoid CP and go somewhere else – after all, CP is a tourist place these days! Like everywhere in China, “RedMao” is still the King!

Just my 2-fen worth lah!


Agreed but I still find angmo very petty,....... Cheapskate....

Cheers

[sex crusader]

My advice is, move on to CA lor. Now more and more 'packages' are available for your enjoyment.:D

[Beiyang Navy]

Bro, these cheebye AngMos have laws in their country against going to other country for sex.

Actually it is applicable only with regards to child sex.

[Heavenly Sword]

Well said brother Huzige! You hit the nail right on the head. I guess it all boils down to how they behalf. If they all behalf like gentleman and treat the girls nice I got nothing against them.

[Huzige]

Agreed but I still find angmo very petty,....... Cheapskate....
Cheers

Yep, I’ve seen my share, but I have also seen Asians behaving the same way. I have even seen one newbie making all kind of excuses not paying his share of KTV bills. I guess it is like the MMs – all depend on your luck – we get to see the good, the bad & the ugly – that’s what makes the world go round…

Hey – I have heard about you from some of the brothers – hope to catch up with you one of these days – I’m just another old fart – I used to hang out Jakarta when Tanamur was the “in place” to go – yeah, it’s that long ago, no shit…:D

[RamboCat]

Nowadays, I keep seeing more and more cheebye Angmos in ChangPing. The last trip at Jia Yi, saw two fat bastard AngMos with a Singaporean.

At Virgin sauna, saw another Keling and an Angmo there. The girls there told me there has been many Kelings and Angmos coming here..chee bye. She told me these foreigners are brought here by Singaporeans.

I have nothing to hide that I hate these cheebye Angmos coming to cheong in Asia. The worst is they will never be able to know these places unless some old horses bought them (Who are KNN Singaporeans or HongKies).

Any bros share my Da-Shiokness?:mad:

P.S. Only in Japan that they forbid non-Japanese to enjoy their women. I really respect that.

A few thought to comment and point out:

1. Let's not go so far as CP. Even in our own backyard GL L8/L10/L12 , I've seen the MM's take Ang Moh's . How come nobody looks down upon them or boycotts them or talk to their controller OKT's to prevent the MM's from taking other customers and accepting only locals.

2. About Ang Moh's bargaing for bus fare below $2 in HCM , running off without paying $$ to the Trishaw drivers are exceptional cases. The fact is that majority of Ang Moh's are better paymasters than us Asians. This is why they are respected everywhere they go. Even a taxi driver from Aus goes to BKK , he will tip generously everywhere. A businessman from Asian country will refrain from tipping, try to stetch his $ etc.

3. I want to understand something here. Before the deed both parties bathe very well in saunas , etc. Later they do with rubber on. The so called dirty Ang Moh doesn't do anything much , parts with his $$ and leaves. So I want to know why is he hated ? Why are Ang Moh's hated and being called words like "cheebye Ang Moh's" , KNN etc. Why are brother's feeling the Da-Shiokness ? When Intel sets up a chip manufacturing plant in China, or FedEx sets up the Asia operations HQ there, why there's no Da-Shiokness then ? But is one of the expats flys to have a good time in CP , then he is hated , looked down upon etc , asian want to boycott the places he visits etc ?

My two yuan worth...

[Mr.romantic]

Yep, I’ve seen my share, but I have also seen Asians behaving the same way. I have even seen one newbie making all kind of excuses not paying his share of KTV bills. I guess it is like the MMs – all depend on your luck – we get to see the good, the bad & the ugly – that’s what makes the world go round…

haha ain't we hear it all before? excuses such as, "But I drink mixers only or drink little alcohol only. I should pay less!".

knn what the hell right? hahaha. :D

[Mr.romantic]

3. I want to understand something here. Before the deed both parties bathe very well in saunas , etc. Later they do with rubber on. The so called dirty Ang Moh doesn't do anything much , parts with his $$ and leaves. So I want to know why is he hated ? Why are Ang Moh's hated and being called words like "cheebye Ang Moh's" , KNN etc. Why are brother's feeling the Da-Shiokness ? When Intel sets up a chip manufacturing plant in China, or FedEx sets up the Asia operations HQ there, why there's no Da-Shiokness then ? But is one of the expats flys to have a good time in CP , then he is hated , looked down upon etc , asian want to boycott the places he visits etc ?

ang mohs got good and bad ones as well. irregardless of race as long as anyone respect the people around him. i am fine with that. just can't stand those who talk big and arrogant bastards.

and those banglas at GL will get kick from me if they do not know how to walk properly or show some basic public courtesy. :mad:

[HoustonBoy]

Don't forget...

The reason why industrial towns like Chang Ping exists and the KTV scene flourished to cater to business men with money is because these products are bought up by Ang Mo's economy.

The reason why Singapore is the financial hub of Asia is because all the western companies setup shop there.

I understand your resentment, I personally share the same feelings but not views. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[Mr.romantic]

I have been to Japan & Korean regularly in the past umpteen years and I hate the “discrimination” practiced by some places where they do not welcome foreigners. According to my local friends, I even “look” like a local and I went into such places with them out of curiosity but pretending to be a deaf. Needless to say, I never went back again.

from my personal experience most Japanese soaplands, hostess clubs, fashion health/massage clubs have "racist" policy lah. it helps a bit if you are able to speak Japanese. understand their culture to "beat" their policy. i am sure the Jap chicks are well worth the money even though pricey for Singapore standards. :D

[chonburiboy]

It is chee bye like you that promote Ang Mo tua kee.

Ang Mo didn't come setup shop here for charity. They are here to take advantage of cheaper labour so they can make more profits.

They setup shops where there is no union rules and have the cheapest labour. They are still colonizing but financially. Our parents and fore-parents are exploited of their hardwork and every cent is made from hard earned sweat. Ang Mo didn't give you free money.

Maybe your mother make money from Ang Mo so you are grateful to his hand that fed you. But please don't talk this type of cock to tell people not "bite the hand that feeds you" as it is insulting to many bros.





Don't forget...

The reason why industrial towns like Chang Ping exists and the KTV scene flourished to cater to business men with money is because these products are bought up by Ang Mo's economy.

The reason why Singapore is the financial hub of Asia is because all the western companies setup shop there.

I understand your resentment, I personally share the same feelings but not views. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[coolmanks]

I agreed with u, it is their behavior; specially in Singapore that is a major turnoff, which provoke these resentment.

Well said brother Huzige! You hit the nail right on the head. I guess it all boils down to how they behalf. If they all behalf like gentleman and treat the girls nice I got nothing against them.

Caristic,

I take very strong exception to you statement "Don't bite the hand that feeds you".

Feed my foot, I cannot disagreed more with it. You think we are all beggers depending on the charity of the great white. KXX:mad:Don't forget...

The reason why industrial towns like Chang Ping exists and the KTV scene flourished to cater to business men with money is because these products are bought up by Ang Mo's economy.

The reason why Singapore is the financial hub of Asia is because all the western companies setup shop there.

I understand your resentment, I personally share the same feelings but not views. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

[Happykiwi]

Don't forget...

The reason why industrial towns like Chang Ping exists and the KTV scene flourished to cater to business men with money is because these products are bought up by Ang Mo's economy.

The reason why Singapore is the financial hub of Asia is because all the western companies setup shop there.

I understand your resentment, I personally share the same feelings but not views. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I think you have to be a bit more circumspect. Any nation can be powerful if it had slaves building its nation for 200 years. Please also note that the wealth accumulated by the west is through imperialism, colonisation, and exploitation of other other nations over 300 to 400 years.

When the British ran out of silver to pay for the tea from China it resorted to selling opium in exchange. I'm sure you know the devastating effect that opium had on the whole of China. The amazing thing is that the British legally banned the importation of opium into its own country!

Right until before World War 2, parks in the major cities in China had signs that read, "No Chinese and dogs allowed". The Japanese had free access to these parks but not the Chinese, who were natives in their own land!

History is written by the victors, always remember that! I hope you will not read history purely from the perspective of a westerner! :D

[HoustonBoy]

I think you have to be a bit more circumspect. Any nation can be powerful if it had slaves building its nation for 200 years. Please also note that the wealth accumulated by the west is through imperialism, colonisation, and exploitation of other other nations over 300 to 400 years.

When the British ran out of silver to pay for the tea from China it resorted to selling opium in exchange. I'm sure you know the devastating effect that opium had on the whole of China. The amazing thing is that the British legally banned the importation of opium into its own country!

Right until before World War 2, parks in the major cities in China had signs that read, "No Chinese and dogs allowed". The Japanese had free access to these parks but not the Chinese, who were natives in their own land!

History is written by the victors, always remember that! I hope you will not read history purely from the perspective of a westerner! :D


You guys are right, I didn't think that far back and appreciate the history lesson.

Expressed less eloquently, my original point was to convey the fact that the great China economy is dependent on mainly on exports; exports that are bought by the US and Europe.

ChangPing is a industrial town who owe its own prosperity to these exports, thus the pay-for-play scene existed to cater to those business men, be it Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese, or Ang Mos who do business here.

Now I think most of you are upset at the fact that ChangPing has became more of a discovered paradised in which that many of the Ang Mos are there not for business, but to sex our women and also look down at the Chinese community as a whole. Very disrespectful in some cases. I share the same sentiment, however, I don’t share the same generalization that all Laowai have no business there.

[HoustonBoy]

I agreed with u, it is their behavior; specially in Singapore that is a major turnoff, which provoke these resentment.



Caristic,

I take very strong exception to you statement "Don't bite the hand that feeds you".

Feed my foot, I cannot disagreed more with it. You think we are all beggers depending on the charity of the great white. KXX:mad:

Sorry that was offensive and was a poor choice of words.

I sit on the fence because I am a Chinese American who have seen both sides. Many of my non-Chinese friends appreciate Chinese history, culture, and woman and I have no problem with them coming to China and enjoying the scene.

Being Chinese and living in America, I live in a culture that has little tolerance for racism and cultural bias. This is a value that I'll defend.

[GTOKING]

Please dont so upset on those great white or black attack CP ......

In fact in dongguan area have more than 32 town which still can bring to you more mms ..........

So ........just let it be ......my friend !

Those who know me .............I had found new place with best quality and low damage compare to CP..............CP share market is on foreigner side, come and enjoy the local people rate as well....................haha.

When the things sell at the higher rate due to they know many people want it .........dont buy.........look for another source , same quality or more fresh but due to no one know and the price will get more cheaper............

Cheers

[TinTin130670]

Please dont so upset on those great white or black attack CP ......

In fact in dongguan area have more than 32 town which still can bring to you more mms ..........

So ........just let it be ......my friend !

Those who know me .............I had found new place with best quality and low damage compare to CP..............CP share market is on foreigner side, come and enjoy the local people rate as well....................haha.

When the things sell at the higher rate due to they know many people want it .........dont buy.........look for another source , same quality or more fresh but due to no one know and the price will get more cheaper............

Cheers


So Master GTOKING..where is this new found heaven u toking abt...i'm oso interested to go & look see..kekeke..:D

Cheers,
TinTin

[coolmanks]

Dear caristic ,

You are totally wrong that I am upset about ChangPing or what is happening at ChangPing.

The only thing I upset about is you statement "Don't bite the hand that feeds you".

To me this is the most racism statement of this entire thread. You guys are right, I didn't think that far back and appreciate the history lesson.

Expressed less eloquently, my original point was to convey the fact that the great China economy is dependent on mainly on exports; exports that are bought by the US and Europe.

ChangPing is a industrial town who owe its own prosperity to these exports, thus the pay-for-play scene existed to cater to those business men, be it Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese, or Ang Mos who do business here.

Now I think most of you are upset at the fact that ChangPing has became more of a discovered paradised in which that many of the Ang Mos are there not for business, but to sex our women and also look down at the Chinese community as a whole. Very disrespectful in some cases. I share the same sentiment, however, I don’t share the same generalization that all Laowai have no business there.

Sorry that was offensive and was a poor choice of words.

I sit on the fence because I am a Chinese American who have seen both sides. Many of my non-Chinese friends appreciate Chinese history, culture, and woman and I have no problem with them coming to China and enjoying the scene.

Being Chinese and living in America, I live in a culture that has little tolerance for racism and cultural bias. This is a value that I'll defend.

[HoustonBoy]

Dear caristic ,
The only thing I upset about is you statement "Don't bite the hand that feeds you".


You're taking this way out of context. I'm referring to the fact that foreigners are supporting the Chinese economy (including ChangPing), and if you want to dispute that fine with me.

And I'm not sure why you're writing in big bold red letters. Sounds like you're yelling and I can hear you just fine if you speak normally.

[sammyboyfor]

I sit on the fence because I am a Chinese American who have seen both sides. Many of my non-Chinese friends appreciate Chinese history, culture, and woman

Appreciate Chinese culture???:rolleyes:

What is there to appreciate? I suggest you read this book (http://www.amazon.com/Ugly-Chinaman-Crisis-Chinese-Culture/dp/1863731164).

[HoustonBoy]

Appreciate Chinese culture???:rolleyes:

What is there to appreciate? I suggest you read this book (http://www.amazon.com/Ugly-Chinaman-Crisis-Chinese-Culture/dp/1863731164).

No one claim that Chinese are better than the rest of the world. To appreciate means that you are able to open up to the positive side of subject. I'm sure there are ugly histories and tendencies to any culture as some example of those history lessons are previously made clear to me earlier in this thread.

BTW, I've read the reviews and that looks like a good book. Seems racist at first, but it's a bit more tasteful than at first glance. Kinda cliche to say "never judge a book by its cover".

I think we're getting a bit carried away with this thread since it started off with a ugly footing. It warrants a closure if you don't mind.

[remyken]

It is chee bye like you that promote Ang Mo tua kee.

Ang Mo didn't come setup shop here for charity. They are here to take advantage of cheaper labour so they can make more profits.

They setup shops where there is no union rules and have the cheapest labour. They are still colonizing but financially. Our parents and fore-parents are exploited of their hardwork and every cent is made from hard earned sweat. Ang Mo didn't give you free money.

Maybe your mother make money from Ang Mo so you are grateful to his hand that fed you. But please don't talk this type of cock to tell people not "bite the hand that feeds you" as it is insulting to many bros.


2 thumbs up for that quote!

I think you have to be a bit more circumspect. Any nation can be powerful if it had slaves building its nation for 200 years. Please also note that the wealth accumulated by the west is through imperialism, colonisation, and exploitation of other other nations over 300 to 400 years.

When the British ran out of silver to pay for the tea from China it resorted to selling opium in exchange. I'm sure you know the devastating effect that opium had on the whole of China. The amazing thing is that the British legally banned the importation of opium into its own country!

Right until before World War 2, parks in the major cities in China had signs that read, "No Chinese and dogs allowed". The Japanese had free access to these parks but not the Chinese, who were natives in their own land!

History is written by the victors, always remember that! I hope you will not read history purely from the perspective of a westerner!

3 thumbs up for that quote



Sad to say this is the real world... U can be a fuking CB do all sorts of lanjiao things, but u can get away wif it if u r strong...

I really really hate to see China turning to be like thailand...

[jasont]

While I would defend all the brothers’ right to express their opinions, I am somewhat disappointed by the comments so far. Then again, I believe the silent majority is probably ignoring these comments.

I have been to Japan & Korean regularly in the past umpteen years and I hate the “discrimination” practiced by some places where they do not welcome foreigners. According to my local friends, I even “look” like a local and I went into such places with them out of curiosity but pretending to be a deaf. Needless to say, I never went back again.

I am of the opinion that Ang-mohs, blacks and ME have as much right as anyone else to be wherever they are – and they are subject to the same laws as everyone else. I am a regular at CP and I dislike the sight of Ang-mohs walking down the main Zhong-yuan Street with a MM in each arm in broad day-light. This is not because he is an Ang-moh but because he has not been discreet and he thinks he is in Pattaya without realizing the “risk” he is exposing himself too. And I hate it as much when I see a big group of Singaporean/Malaysian walking through Yalang – loud and ya-ya, often with the MMs they already picked – it is the same thing, the indiscretions. Such acts will some times attract the attention of GA and enough complaints from “someone” will cause GAs to act. Some of you will remember the result of the big Taiwanese “base-ball playing” group in HH and other places in CP, and the old cheongsters all know what happened to Sazui in Shenzhen when more Ang-mohs are seen hanging out in the area. And of ‘cos the incident with the Japs in Zhuhai that caught international attention. Mainland Chinese like “face” too. They all know it is there and illegal – but they leave it alone because of self-interests until someone came along to “screw” it up by being indiscrete or loud. In fact, catching the attention of GAs is not so bad, as they get dealt with by laws. But catching the attention of the local gangsters is another story.

Brothers – it is a globalize world, be more tolerant. If you don’t like what you see, just vote with your feet and avoid the establishments or towns that cater to the people you dislike – be it yellow, black, white or whatever. Or avoid CP and go somewhere else – after all, CP is a tourist place these days! Like everywhere in China, “RedMao” is still the King!

Just my 2-fen worth lah!

Totally agree with this. Now, if a Singaporean read this and go to CP, isn't he one of the dirty foreigners who are exploiting these PRC MMs in their own backyard? Or if it's a Singaporean in CP, isn't he a FT taking advantage? Or is the REAL issue here, that some of you guys don't want to see anyone with a different skin colour patronise these whores?

The next time you want to fantasise about a Korean or Japanese even a Mainland Chinese (it's the same with how we see PRC, malays seen malaysian and indians see india indians), don't expect to think their women see you as their same skin hor...the only colour important is the colour their currency is.

Look at it this way lah, this is just another example of China's rampant capitalism. It's no more "disgusting" than any other country's.

[relaxguy]

I agree with many of the brothers here, who the hell does the angmos think they are? They are here to exploit the chinese cheap labor, dont think that they are so holy and noble to come here to "save" everyone.

What do you mean <<do not bite the hands that feel you?>> no fucking angmo fed me, my parents did.

and every single cent the chinese got from the angmos, they fucking earn with their sweat and work. It was never free.

Lets be fair, everyone in some ways are exploiting China, but please be humble and smart about it. Dont take advantage of others and still pretend that they are the savior. It is this disgusting mentality from Angmos and yellow banana like yourself that promotes this kind of thinking.

Keep your 2nd class citizen rights and how they treat you amercian born chinese ways back where you come from, I do not think that the ways the whites treat you there will be even tolerated by people here or anywhere. You sound like you are from the West coast, where the chinese are of the lower calibrate and worships the whites. I guess you sit on the back of the bus so long, you actually believe you belong there.

Do you really think the entire china (or even asia in your prospective) will collapse immediately if the angmos leave? They will suffer more if they leave the worlds fastest growing market.

China is having more impact on the world more than the world is having impact on it.

These Angmos are in China to expliot the chinese, everyone knows it, the angmos know it, the chinese too. Do you? what <<bite the hand that feeds you?>>Wake up.

You're taking this way out of context. I'm referring to the fact that foreigners are supporting the Chinese economy (including ChangPing), and if you want to dispute that fine with me.

And I'm not sure why you're writing in big bold red letters. Sounds like you're yelling and I can hear you just fine if you speak normally.

[HoustonBoy]

These Angmos are in China to expliot the chinese, everyone knows it, the angmos know it, the chinese too. Do you? what <<bite the hand that feeds you?>>Wake up.

I think you need to take read a few articles on China's economy and how dependent it is on foreign investments. It is the reason why the Yuan is pegged to the dollar, and why China is the biggest investor of US treasuries. Basically, the Chininese government with its huge cash reserves are lending money to the US for it's consumers to buy Chinese products. Now if you think the US is exploiting China at it's current state, then you need to open up your eyes a bit. It's at worse, mutual at this point between these 2 countries.

[Happykiwi]

Appreciate Chinese culture???:rolleyes:

What is there to appreciate? I suggest you read this book (http://www.amazon.com/Ugly-Chinaman-Crisis-Chinese-Culture/dp/1863731164).


Hehehe..... I have a better recommendation and it is free, like the air we breathe!

Tao Te Ching - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_Te_Ching)

And the most brilliant quote of all times is this:

"Life is the cause of death."

This quote extends to the whole universe and beyond! :D

[sassina2]

While I would defend all the brothers’ right to express their opinions, I am somewhat disappointed by the comments so far. Then again, I believe the silent majority is probably ignoring these comments.

I have been to Japan & Korean regularly in the past umpteen years and I hate the “discrimination” practiced by some places where they do not welcome foreigners. According to my local friends, I even “look” like a local and I went into such places with them out of curiosity but pretending to be a deaf. Needless to say, I never went back again.

I am of the opinion that Ang-mohs, blacks and ME have as much right as anyone else to be wherever they are – and they are subject to the same laws as everyone else. I am a regular at CP and I dislike the sight of Ang-mohs walking down the main Zhong-yuan Street with a MM in each arm in broad day-light. This is not because he is an Ang-moh but because he has not been discreet and he thinks he is in Pattaya without realizing the “risk” he is exposing himself too. And I hate it as much when I see a big group of Singaporean/Malaysian walking through Yalang – loud and ya-ya, often with the MMs they already picked – it is the same thing, the indiscretions. Such acts will some times attract the attention of GA and enough complaints from “someone” will cause GAs to act. Some of you will remember the result of the big Taiwanese “base-ball playing” group in HH and other places in CP, and the old cheongsters all know what happened to Sazui in Shenzhen when more Ang-mohs are seen hanging out in the area. And of ‘cos the incident with the Japs in Zhuhai that caught international attention. Mainland Chinese like “face” too. They all know it is there and illegal – but they leave it alone because of self-interests until someone came along to “screw” it up by being indiscrete or loud. In fact, catching the attention of GAs is not so bad, as they get dealt with by laws. But catching the attention of the local gangsters is another story.

Brothers – it is a globalize world, be more tolerant. If you don’t like what you see, just vote with your feet and avoid the establishments or towns that cater to the people you dislike – be it yellow, black, white or whatever. Or avoid CP and go somewhere else – after all, CP is a tourist place these days! Like everywhere in China, “RedMao” is still the King!

Just my 2-fen worth lah!

Bro H.,

Well said.

There are good and bad ones of all races & creed.

Unfortunately, the "Ugly Singaporean" seems to be breeding too rapidly too!

BTW, I was watching a Spring Festival TV show & they had a black African dance group performing on TV.

The "live audience" cheered & applauded them most spontaneously. Then, one of the African lady dancers was interviewed in Mandarin and she spoke of how much she loved "Zhong Guo" in better mandarin than I could speak.

The mostly local Chinese audience loved it!

For the racists here, I'd say, go to some of the corners of Guangzhou & take a look, there are all sorts of foreigners everywhere.

In that highly commercial city, all colours & creeds are well intermixed & "accepted" because the world is driven by the "red mao".

It's all about moving FORWARD.

If any of us cannot mix it in & survive with the "global competition" perhaps, we should just hide in our little corner called Singapore.

This my 2-cents worth!

S.

[boobiieee]

Hope all the bros here relax a bit, too much gunpowder around now. This thread is just asking if you like to see Ang Mo hanging around in CP and cheonging "our" (technically it's China's) girls so to speak. Guess ppl here just don't want CP to turn into another BKK, which are now infested with foreigners from all over the world. And of cus, driving the price up too.

I do agree with what bro Huzige wrote that discrimination is not what we are against just wished those Ang Mos be more tactful and not be so brazen as what he said.

[usmjordan2]

Come on man ! to make things easy

Walk to the CP train station there and hang a notice board .

" 山拇大叔 与 狗 不 得 进 入 "
" No Entry For Uncle Sam & Dog "

:rolleyes::cool:

[jasont]

Hope all the bros here relax a bit, too much gunpowder around now. This thread is just asking if you like to see Ang Mo hanging around in CP and cheonging "our" (technically it's China's) girls so to speak. Guess ppl here just don't want CP to turn into another BKK, which are now infested with foreigners from all over the world. And of cus, driving the price up too.

I do agree with what bro Huzige wrote that discrimination is not what we are against just wished those Ang Mos be more tactful and not be so brazen as what he said.

This is my point though. How can we (as Singaporeans) differentiate ourselves from these "foreigners"? We are all foreigners in their country! They aren't "our" girls at all, no more so than a girl in Pattaya is ours. As far as I know, this is commercial sex. The price go up, the price go down. The fact still remains, we end up paying for it.

Sometimes, I just don't get it. If a PRC come to Singapore, they are PRC and must be different from Singaporean Chinese. But if we go to China, then we must be accepted like them?

[Sperminator]

Dear Forumners,

For all you know, there could be many Cheebye AngMos reading this thread now. Haha...

Anyways, I read what JasonT said about the contradictory view points in this thread.

And I do agree with JasonT, stating that we have some form of double standards.

Just like to give a reality check to all of you out there, JasonT is right, when we are in China, we are FOREIGNERS, LAO WAI, I remembered, some people called me LAO WAI before, but after staying in South China, Shenzhen for more than 4 years, I have localized... but I am still a FOREIGNER.

So, another point is that, SINGAPOREANS are minority of the world, we are only a 4 million people population ( check out https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html )

But anyways... let's not get side tracked...

Personally, what I think is that AngMos or not, it's not the RACE that create the problem, but the characteristics of the travellers.

I have met many AngMos before, some I could become friends, some I really hate, and would like to stay away from them.

I have met many KeiLing before, honestly, I really like to stay away from them, and I do not have many KeiLing friends. (due to the smell)

It really doesn't matter if you're black or white (like what Michael Jackson was singing about)

Yes, it really doesn't matter, because, eventually all of them, Black or White, or even Yellow (haha), like to FUCK!

That's why we go to places to CP, Shenzhen, BJ, SH, ZH, etc... to unload our sperm right?

At the end of the day, when we all go CP or not, SINGAPOREANS are regarded as LAO WAI, or FOREIGNERS to the local Chinese standards.

Remember this;

香港人无情， 台湾人无耻，新加坡人无知

For those that don't read CHINESE CHARACTERS, it is directly translated as, Hong Kong People Heartless, Taiwanese Despicable, Singaporean Ignorant.

And so, my Singaporean buddies... remember that the quote above is quoted by LOCAL CHINESE PEOPLE!!!

Singaporean already earned a reputation of being Ignorant, and gosh, this is indeed bliss... haha...

Anyways... following the old birds' advise like GTOKING, if you don't like that place, go to another place lah... China is so huge with 1.4 Billion people, and I am sure there would be always room enough for everybody...

We all get so side tracked when talking about liking to see the sight of Ang Mo, KeiLing or not...

I say FUCK IT, let them mind their own business, and we mind ours...

Let's start sharing more useful information on where we could have a good deal!

I say, let's get busy sharing more interesting stuffs...

[3dee]

when i was in cp 4 years back, i hardly see angmo, but today arabians also have; the same thing goes to singaporeans and malaysians, 4 years ago, most of the time only see taiwanese and hkees, but with the budgest airlines in operations, now almost everyday can see sporeans and msians.

what i can say is, globalisation is something that we cannot avoid, especially nowadays china is so open to the whole world.

with the globalisation effect and fast information flow (we are living at the internet world), there will only be more and more angmos to cheong in cp and it is not possible to kick them out, unless you are the government, and impose such a strong law. but i doubt think the authority will do so.

there are 2 options you can choose:

- cheong at less develop places, just like cheong in cp 3 years ago. there are less developed towns surrounding cp and less angmos, less sporeans, less msians, and these are still the lower cost places. bro cakesim kampong is one of them. ;)

- increase your Mao's power. after all, the girls (being WL, dj, mummies, waitress) will not recognise your skin but only recognise your spending power. if your spending power is strong, all the girls will come after you.

[LawTeoChew]

there are 2 options you can choose:

- cheong at less develop places, just like cheong in cp 3 years ago. there are less developed towns surrounding cp and less angmos, less sporeans, less msians, and these are still the lower cost places. bro cakesim kampong is one of them. ;)

- increase your Mao's power. after all, the girls (being WL, dj, mummies, waitress) will not recognise your skin but only recognise your spending power. if your spending power is strong, all the girls will come after you.

Bro,

You forgot to add...besides all the above, must possess charm and sweet talking skill like you..only then he will become a guy that dare not to walk openly on the street of CP.
Cheers..
LTC

[Ronaldo]

Just like to give a reality check to all of you out there, JasonT is right, when we are in China, we are FOREIGNERS, LAO WAI, I remembered, some people called me LAO WAI before, but after staying in South China, Shenzhen for more than 4 years, I have localized... but I am still a FOREIGNER.



Err... We are not know as Lao Wai lahz... We are 假老外. Fake Ang Moh.. For someone who looks Chinese yet cant speak it good, thats a term for most Singaporeans/Malaysian.

The reason, our English sometimes they also cannot understand, especially our "then hor" and "and then". Our accent is as outstanding as the Hongkies.

So instead of calling us Chinese or 华人, I like to use the term 亚洲人. 我们都是亚洲人！不要让老外欺负我们！ I think they can relate better.

[johnnylomas]

when i was in cp 4 years back, i hardly see angmo, but today arabians also have; the same thing goes to singaporeans and malaysians, 4 years ago, most of the time only see taiwanese and hkees, but with the budgest airlines in operations, now almost everyday can see sporeans and msians.

what i can say is, globalisation is something that we cannot avoid, especially nowadays china is so open to the whole world.
there are 2 options you can choose:

- cheong at less develop places, just like cheong in cp 3 years ago. there are less developed towns surrounding cp and less angmos, less sporeans, less msians, and these are still the lower cost places. bro cakesim kampong is one of them. ;)

- increase your Mao's power. after all, the girls (being WL, dj, mummies, waitress) will not recognise your skin but only recognise your spending power. if your spending power is strong, all the girls will come after you.


yeah, have to look for new places liao.
one thing tho, most chinese girls are still reluctant to be with ang moh.

another thing, i seem to get more and more negative feedback on singaporeans. this is at places like sh and bj. of cos places like cp and dg less issues, cos the girls not as experienced. comments used to be we are polite and nice and soft-spoken, easy to bully.
times are changing man...

[Mr.romantic]

another thing, i seem to get more and more negative feedback on singaporeans. this is at places like sh and bj. of cos places like cp and dg less issues, cos the girls not as experienced. comments used to be we are polite and nice and soft-spoken, easy to bully.
times are changing man...

what are the negative feedbacks on Singaporeans in SH and BJ? please elaborate.

[Sinoview]

Brothers – it is a globalize world, be more tolerant. If you don’t like what you see, just vote with your feet and avoid the establishments or towns that cater to the people you dislike – be it yellow, black, white or whatever. Or avoid CP and go somewhere else – after all, CP is a tourist place these days! Like everywhere in China, “RedMao” is still the King!


Well said bro H,

The tend and flow of foreigners (us included) to CP are avoidable. No way, anyone can stop these. Like I used tell our bros "Good thing wont last long". Enjoy while u can. It's like Taiwan n Korean which we did hv great fun in the 80s.

China's started their development from Coastal cities in China than spreading to 2nd tier and then to other inner cities.....

Developments comes wif foreigners (including us). These foreigners like us ll sometime bring "overseas" friends n business associates esp for the case of CP locte in the middle of so many International Fairs in GZ, SZ n HJ.

There r still so many unexplored small townships in DG n GD itself. Just to name some QT, TX, SL, SJ, SP, DS etc....Just move on if U feel CP is getting too congested. Like some bros who ll void CP on weekends by all means...
Though many of us still consider CP

This weekend i ll join them somewhere with less foreigners. Though i definitely consider myself as one. Hehe...

Have fun.....n be realistic.

[boobiieee]

Looks like a search for better playgrounds is what most bros are advocating.

To me, CP is still big enough for everyone to cheong in just hope those Foreigners don't spoilt the market too much.


香港人无情， 台湾人无耻，新加坡人无知
Now I know why the girls eyes light up when they know I'm from singapore, must be seeing a big fat golden piggie Ha Ha ! :D

Any quotes on malaysians ? Or the Ang Mos ?

[Marcelo]

99% of this Farangs/Angmoh are racist and only 1% of them are good and kind hearted.

In Bangkok Thailand i often seen these people they think they are better than Asian that is a shame. And they threat Asia as if its their country . I ever encounter several time shouting at this ang moh to F**k them self up . I shouted at them this is Asia be humble if you want to stay long here...

The Thai girls here prefer ang moh rather than asian but they didnt realised that this ang moh are cheap . Some thai girls said '' Oh i like farang because my baby can be beautiful'' full of crap

[sassina2]

More on what attracts the girls in China / Philippines / Thailand / Indonesia.

In the non P4P arena in particular, Singaporeans & Malaysians do often find it harder to compete with the people from USA / Europe etc.

Why?

While the older Singaporeans and their impending CPF windfall has made some of them attractive, the reality is that as of late, that windfall has become smaller and less of a "pie in the sky". This occurance has been more with the "apeks" in geylang coffee shops and the older desperados from China who prey there.

A real "first world passport" makes the US / European nations the "ultimate dream" for many mei meis / dalaga / puying / cewek. Given that Singapore has "first world costs" and "3rd world benefits" our attraction is less.

Specifically for the mei meis, the fact that Chinese is spoken here does help. Further, our good food is another plus point.

Ultimately, wherever we come from, in the short term, how we utilise the red mao in CP makes for a better time.

Most of the "laowais" are unfamiliar with KTV and the activities that occur therein and are afraid to venture in. Those that have a smaller budget (mental rather than real) tend to compare BBS pricing with KTV pricing and cannot seem to synch with why they should pay more.

The result is that they tend to focus only on the BBS where less than 10% of the girls available in CP can be found. Further, Chinese is not an easily learnt language and pretty intimidating.

Your "paradise" on earth will take longer to unfold for the non Chinese speaking visitors. However, CP is no longer the backwater that it was 10 years ago for sure.

My conclusion is the same as some of those who have spoken. Singaporeans do not own China nor the mei meis.

We are foreigners in China. We can't even keep our own women back home from leaping in the arms of foreign men who come with more "dreams to share".

Many of us go overseas where our small shallow pockets become larger than life. We have no right to claim CP and it's women from all over China is ours to keep!

Stop bitching and keep on f******g!

[3dee]

globalisation is not all the bad things, let me share my point on the bright side of the effect.

with the better connection of the infrastructure and looser control from china authority, not only angmo men are travelling to cp, but also amgmo MM!

last time you can only bonk chinese girl in cp, but nowadays there are more and more vietnam (the most), philipines, and those from east europe like russians and romanians (and my friend took a spain girl before).

besides our chinese girls being Fxxx by angmo, you do stand a chance to Fxxx their girls back!

viet and filipinos are at the normal cost as chinese, but those european will cost more.

2 hours sauna session on european cost rmb700; but comparing to my experience bonking a russian in germany that cost 150 euro, it is still relatively cheap in cp!

so, for those who are seeking for "revenge", you may do more on angmo MMs!!!!


and let me share this secret story... one of my friend's experience...

my friend, a good english chatter (which i think most of us can do well too), after a session with an angmo MM, he sian the girl until hiong hiong, and the girl kind of like him and stick to him, the girl companied him through out his trip without asking for mao's face.

but my friend didn't take advantage on that, he still gave her daily rate of rmb800 at the end of the trip. but comparing to the girl's actual rate, he was paying much lesser.

here is the clue.
majority of the angmo MM cannot speak chinese well, and when they come over to cp, they have the limited friends. so it is very easy for them to feel lonely. for the good english speaker, don't miss the chance... ;)

[3dee]

Bro,

You forgot to add...besides all the above, must possess charm and sweet talking skill like you..only then he will become a guy that dare not to walk openly on the street of CP.
Cheers..
LTC

bro LTC, you should know that cp streets are not safe, lots of robbers, gangsters, cheaters, beggars, small kid flower forced seller...

so for the personal security reason, i hardly walk on the street... :D

[JackieWong]

globalisation is not all the bad things, let me share my point on the bright side of the effect.

with the better connection of the infrastructure and looser control from china authority, not only angmo men are travelling to cp, but also amgmo MM!

last time you can only bonk chinese girl in cp, but nowadays there are more and more vietnam (the most), philipines, and those from east europe like russians and romanians (and my friend took a spain girl before).

besides our chinese girls being Fxxx by angmo, you do stand a chance to Fxxx their girls back!

viet and filipinos are at the normal cost as chinese, but those european will cost more.

2 hours sauna session on european cost rmb700; but comparing to my experience bonking a russian in germany that cost 150 euro, it is still relatively cheap in cp!

so, for those who are seeking for "revenge", you may do more on angmo MMs!!!!


and let me share this secret story... one of my friend's experience...

my friend, a good english chatter (which i think most of us can do well too), after a session with an angmo MM, he sian the girl until hiong hiong, and the girl kind of like him and stick to him, the girl companied him through out his trip without asking for mao's face.

but my friend didn't take advantage on that, he still gave her daily rate of rmb800 at the end of the trip. but comparing to the girl's actual rate, he was paying much lesser.

here is the clue.
majority of the angmo MM cannot speak chinese well, and when they come over to cp, they have the limited friends. so it is very easy for them to feel lonely. for the good english speaker, don't miss the chance... ;)



wah where can find angmo MM?

[Maitong Kit Mak]

globalisation is not all the bad things, let me share my point on the bright side of the effect.
here is the clue.
majority of the angmo MM cannot speak chinese well, and when they come over to cp, they have the limited friends. so it is very easy for them to feel lonely. for the good english speaker, don't miss the chance... ;)



Bro...care to PM me the joints in CP/CA that offers angmo? I would like to volunteer myself to take revenge on angmo MMs on behalf of pissed bros here...hehehe!:D

[3dee]

bro jackie and maitong... check your pm and have fun!~ ;)

[Happykiwi]

bro LTC, you should know that cp streets are not safe, lots of robbers, gangsters, cheaters, beggars, small kid flower forced seller...

so for the personal security reason, i hardly walk on the street... :D

Wai Sifu, you left out the most important bit leh..... How come you never mention the hundreds of ex-girlfriends you jilted arhhh?? They are all out on the streets of CP right now looking for you leh, Sifu.... :D

[HoustonBoy]

bro jackie and maitong... check your pm and have fun!~ ;)

Hey 3dee bro, could you let me know too? I've always wanted to try one :)

[GTOKING]

bro jackie and maitong... check your pm and have fun!~ ;

Uncle ..........how come I dont have huh.........:rolleyes:

[3dee]

Hey 3dee bro, could you let me know too? I've always wanted to try one :)

Uncle ..........how come I dont have huh.........:rolleyes:

with the amount of the info that i have given out, i guess the angmo MMs will be revenge until jialat jialat... :eek:

have fun and enjoy!~ ;)

[specialguest]

This is my point though. How can we (as Singaporeans) differentiate ourselves from these "foreigners"? We are all foreigners in their country! They aren't "our" girls at all, no more so than a girl in Pattaya is ours. As far as I know, this is commercial sex. The price go up, the price go down. The fact still remains, we end up paying for it.

Sometimes, I just don't get it. If a PRC come to Singapore, they are PRC and must be different from Singaporean Chinese. But if we go to China, then we must be accepted like them?


Were your parents originally from China? Were Ang mos parents originally from China? Guys, we are not racist to prefer China mms for Chinese, whether we are from China, or from other part of world. This is our preference. I dont know what u guys thinking, but i prefer to travel to Ang mos' countries and fuck their mms for 200rmb ST than having them come to China to fuck mms here for cheap.

[GTOKING]

with the amount of the info that i have given out, i guess the angmo MMs will be revenge until jialat jialat... :eek:

have fun and enjoy!~ ;

haha , I will use dildo to make them jialat jialat !!!!!!!!!!

The return of the .........:eek:

[serembanmen]

bro jackie and maitong... check your pm and have fun!~ ;)

Bro, can u PM me as well, tks... muahahaha I am going to CP on March, hope to meet u there.

[GTOKING]

Bro, can u PM me as well, tks... muahahaha I am going to CP on March, hope to meet u there.

brother , u also go on march meh ? when ?:D

[serembanmen]

brother , u also go on march meh ? when ?:D

Maybe on 27-30/3 or 20-24/3, waiting for some friend to confirm muahahaha

[Sinoview]

wah where can find angmo MM?

U wanto eat "East European steak" in China ?

Like those wanting to eat "Peking Duck" in Indo, Los, Dubai, Europe etc.....
Sala bo ?

Since three yrs ago, there already hv some "Eastern European" gals shaffering around a few Sauna in CP.

If u ask the sauna supervisors n the timing was right u can get them. They asking for tip around 600rmb vs 300rmb for PRC....U want ?

Frankly, they r mend for China men who has never touch or even seen any "white" gal before.....Thus paying "premium" for them.....Not mend for us lah. Hehe....

[Happykiwi]

U wanto eat "East European steak" in China ?

Like those wanting to eat "Peking Duck" in Indo, Los, Dubai, Europe etc.....
Sala bo ?

Since three yrs ago, there already hv some "Eastern European" gals shaffering around a few Sauna in CP.

If u ask the sauna supervisors n the timing was right u can get them. They asking for tip around 600rmb vs 300rmb for PRC....U want ?

Frankly, they r mend for China men who has never touch or even seen any "white" gal before.....Thus paying "premium" for them.....Not mend for us lah. Hehe....

CO, I agree with you 100%.

The only reason I can think of is most of the brothers here cannot travel to Eastern Europe and even if they do managed to get there they would need someone to guide them.

I live in an ang mo country so I tend not to go for European girls. However, if an attractive girl comes along and the damage is reasonable then I wouldn't say no. The RMB700 to RMB800 damage being quoted is about the same as what it would cost me in NZ except that it would only be for half hour!

Using food as an analogy, if you are on holiday in New Zealand why eat Hainan chicken rice when you can have a fresh juicy steak instead, right? :D

[GTOKING]

Maybe on 27-30/3 or 20-24/3, waiting for some friend to confirm muahahaha

we already on liao..............where u go CP ?

[usmjordan2]

SO WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO ?
FACE THE REALITY BECAUSE CHINA NOW IS DEVELOPING .........

JUST GO THERE HAVE FUN...........JUST SHARE THE SAME HOLE WITH ANGMOS:p

[specialguest]

SO WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO ?
FACE THE REALITY BECAUSE CHINA NOW IS DEVELOPING .........

JUST GO THERE HAVE FUN...........JUST SHARE THE SAME HOLE WITH ANGMOS:p

well, we can report it to GA, hahaha... not exactly, angmos like shit hole, if GA catches them doing a shit hole, they are really in deep shit.

[serembanmen]

we already on liao..............where u go CP ?

Changping loh, maybe staying at Huihua! muahahha

[GTOKING]

Changping loh, maybe staying at Huihua! muahahha

enjoy bro man..........when you go huh;)

[johnnylomas]

Well said bro H,

Developments comes wif foreigners (including us). These foreigners like us ll sometime bring "overseas" friends n business associates esp for the case of CP locte in the middle of so many International Fairs in GZ, SZ n HJ.

There r still so many unexplored small townships in DG n GD itself. Just to name some QT, TX, SL, SJ, SP, DS etc....Just move on if U feel CP is getting too congested. Like some bros who ll void CP on weekends by all means...
Though many of us still consider CP




not just cp. nowadays lots of angmos in tx and other places.
used to be 2-5 the most. lately, it's 20-50.
interesting.

[johnnylomas]

what are the negative feedbacks on Singaporeans in SH and BJ? please elaborate.


those days, used to be comments like - 'wow, singapore. nice and clean, people high class, soft-spoken and polite' -
now singaporeans are 'players' etc. altho the feelings/comments abt us not as strong as for taiwanese and hongkongers.
well, ask around, and you can find out.

[jasont]

Were your parents originally from China? Were Ang mos parents originally from China? Guys, we are not racist to prefer China mms for Chinese, whether we are from China, or from other part of world. This is our preference. I dont know what u guys thinking, but i prefer to travel to Ang mos' countries and fuck their mms for 200rmb ST than having them come to China to fuck mms here for cheap.

Err? This is not about preference. If this is about preference then you should understand when an ang moh prefers a Chinese girl or a Chinese man prefer an ang moh girl. Unless you're these MMs' pimp, you can't control where the man and his wallet goes and we can't annex another country's tradition/culture/girls just because we happen to share our genetic roots there.

[serembanmen]

enjoy bro man..........when you go huh;)

27/3 - confirm muahahaha

[specialguest]

Err? This is not about preference. If this is about preference then you should understand when an ang moh prefers a Chinese girl or a Chinese man prefer an ang moh girl. Unless you're these MMs' pimp, you can't control where the man and his wallet goes and we can't annex another country's tradition/culture/girls just because we happen to share our genetic roots there.



That is right brother. we happen to share our genetic roots there. since we have similar tradition/culture /race as in China. how are we suppose to annex it? If this is not about preference, what is it about? I do not understand. What give u the impression I am here to control where other man and his wallet goes?

[3dee]

I did a brief informal survey on cp visitors last week, here is the conclusion:

Hongkee: 50% - 55%
Taiwanese: 30 - 35%%
Others: 15% - 20%

Surveyed hotels (guest room booking): huihua, miraton, huatai, bandao, lucky, shangyuan, jinglang, haixia.

Surveyed kvts: jiayi, bandao, huatai, huihua, miraton, virgin, pp.

The survey was taking with the very rough interview with the managers, mammies, tour agents... The feedback that given could be very subjective due to the individual's opinion, and I took the average figure out of all.

Here is example for hotel guest room. for haixia, at least 70% occupied by hongkee; for lucky, hongkee and taiwanese occupied about 80%; Miraton, Huihua and huatai have the healthier mixed from the guest from different countries, but after all, hongkee and taiwanese still the major occupants.

So as the conclusion, we (sillyporean and malaisiyian) plus others including angmos only the minority in cp, no matter how loud you shout here, your voice is relatively low...

[JamesG]

Well said, 3dee. So for those who resent the Angmos at CP, the HKs could be resenting us too. For the Hongkees to go to CP is just like the Malaisians and Silliporean crossing over to Hatyai and Betong.

[johnnylomas]

So as the conclusion, we (sillyporean and malaisiyian) plus others including angmos only the minority in cp, no matter how loud you shout here, your voice is relatively low...


good work on the stats!
but i tell you, hongkongers and taiwanese around for very long time.
they don't really care that much abt singaporeans at ktv la -
they care more abt making money in the businesses, seriously.

and if they really not happy, they are not shy to make it known to you,
whereas we singaporeans are more held back. (unless you are well-trained in hk or china)

[thedoc]

Hi, All.
I m not sure if this is the right thread for my post but i ll give it a try anyway.
First of all I m not american, I wouldnt even consider myself as "European".
I m greek from Greece, living in Greece.
My country has thousands of years of civilization, and the fact is that greeks in general have a great respect about countries with ancient civilizations.
Including Asian countries of course.
I ve heard lot of you accusing "whites" for doing bad things. Usually for doing asian girls. But what i ve also noticed is that asians hate each-other pretty much the same as whites hate whites or blacks hate blacks.
I have the priviledge to travel a lot. And I also have the priviledge to meet lots of women from all over the world. whites, blacks, yellows, reds, blues or greens.
Lots of you said, say, think or thought that where money talks, legs open.
And its not totaly wrong. But this is what i ve experienced so far.
Although I could spend lots of money in my trips (I m not paying them) I dont.
Well not for the things you d think I would.
But I ve met a beautiful and very sexy young lady from Japan, with enough money to buy my house in cash. So the money was not the case there.
I ve also met another lady from Singapore with her own (import/export) company. I didnt have to pay her either.
I ve also met a wonderful and sexy girl in HK. Who worked for a TV production company. Well I didnt pay anything to her. At least not more than i d pay going out with a girl in Greece. I dont remember paying girls from China (mainland) either.
Or Malaysia.
I m not a model. I m a normal man. I havent promised them marriage. Or blue cards. Or money. I am who I am and we have a great time together. I like asian girls more than the rest because in my eyes they re exotic. They re different. And i m trying to express that. I m not afraid to tell them what i feel. Even some of them would consider it rude. We end up laughing and having a great time. But at least I m not lying.
So the bottom line is "have you ever considered that if you tried to make any woman, yellow, white, black or red, feel special, she wouldnt look the colour of your skin, if you re hairy or not, if you have a long d**k or not or how thick your wallet is ?".
I dont mind if some of you say i m bullsh*****g you.
Think.
Think and stop hating colours.
Stop accusing races.
Peace, love and sex brothers.

The Doc

[84gunner]

Part of the reasons the ang mohs cheonging cp / guangdong is cos places like Beijing & Shanghai, the gals are too materialistic & think too highly of themselves. Those ang mohs who live / work in other cities / provinces & cheong occasionally in Guangdong, they're likely to have lived in China for some time (years) oredi.

A few of my European colleagues, after being in China for some time, got fed-up, tired with Shanghai & the gals.When they go clubs / discos or Tong Ren Lu in Shanghai, it's a bar street, mostly patronised by the ang mohs ever since it's moved from Mao Ming Nan Lu. Needless, to say, prices there ketok customers big time. With Shanghainese gals' "tao" or act high-class behavior, it simply puts many people off.

So these ang mohs ask me to bring them outta Shanghai to see more of China. I started off by bringing them to bbs. Went pubbing / drinking 1st, after the drinks, go bbs. Especially in the bars, I even purposely & proudly tell the gals & FL prostitutes I'm bringing these ang moh guys to bbs. Their 1st comment, "U so uncivilised, so low class"! My response is, " face the fact, we're after the piece of pussy. Civilisation or high-class are but playing with words, makes the packaging outside, but when naked & making love or sex, it's the quality of the female body & sex (service) that matters eventually".

We don't believe in paying exorbitant prices, nor the LVs, Prada, Salvatore, etc etc, just to screw the pussy. 150 - 200 RMB in bbs, or 600 - 800 RMB in HCs in Shanghai, is good enuf 2 satisfy us (those ang mohs). U gals think too highly of yrselves. If we continue 2 pay those prices, we're only continuing 2 spoil the market, & continuing 2 look like fools paying such prices.

On weekends that we have more energy, I'll bring them to cities nearby Shanghai, such as Nanjing, Suzhou, Wuxi, Hangzhou, etc etc. We really go sight-seeing, cultural / historic sights / places, and of course, the drinks & bonk too.

But I haven't brought them to GuangDong province yet.

If in SGP, I would have brought them 1st to cheong GL, then Petain, then JB, then Indonesia. This is 1, to give a run for the SGP gals' stuck-up / arrogant attitudes, and 2, the prices in SGP. There's plenty of choices & strong competition nearby.

But I havent been in SGP for some time liao, cos I reject all job / project offers & travel to SGP, not even transit.

[84gunner]

Hi, All.
I m not sure if this is the right thread for my post but i ll give it a try anyway.
First of all I m not american, I wouldnt even consider myself as "European".
I m greek from Greece, living in Greece.
My country has thousands of years of civilization, and the fact is that greeks in general have a great respect about countries with ancient civilizations.
Including Asian countries of course.
I ve heard lot of you accusing "whites" for doing bad things. Usually for doing asian girls. But what i ve also noticed is that asians hate each-other pretty much the same as whites hate whites or blacks hate blacks.
I have the priviledge to travel a lot. And I also have the priviledge to meet lots of women from all over the world. whites, blacks, yellows, reds, blues or greens.
Lots of you said, say, think or thought that where money talks, legs open.
And its not totaly wrong. But this is what i ve experienced so far.
Although I could spend lots of money in my trips (I m not paying them) I dont.
Well not for the things you d think I would.
But I ve met a beautiful and very sexy young lady from Japan, with enough money to buy my house in cash. So the money was not the case there.
I ve also met another lady from Singapore with her own (import/export) company. I didnt have to pay her either.
I ve also met a wonderful and sexy girl in HK. Who worked for a TV production company. Well I didnt pay anything to her. At least not more than i d pay going out with a girl in Greece. I dont remember paying girls from China (mainland) either.
Or Malaysia.
I m not a model. I m a normal man. I havent promised them marriage. Or blue cards. Or money. I am who I am and we have a great time together. I like asian girls more than the rest because in my eyes they re exotic. They re different. And i m trying to express that. I m not afraid to tell them what i feel. Even some of them would consider it rude. We end up laughing and having a great time. But at least I m not lying.
So the bottom line is "have you ever considered that if you tried to make any woman, yellow, white, black or red, feel special, she wouldnt look the colour of your skin, if you re hairy or not, if you have a long d**k or not or how thick your wallet is ?".
I dont mind if some of you say i m bullsh*****g you.
Think.
Think and stop hating colours.
Stop accusing races.
Peace, love and sex brothers.

The Doc

This is something u dont quite understand about Asian culture, especially Singapore's (though I don't really consider Singapore as Asian anymore. It's trying to be ang moh, or caucasian). And this site is mainly visited by Singaporeans.

Especially with the Govt's Foreign Talent policy, many great job / career opportunities & privileges are given to ang mohs quite some years back. There are locals who are equally, if not more competent, but the privilege & benefit of doubts are given to foreigners. As a local, how would u feel?

These foreigners go work in Singapore, gets sky-high salary & super benefits, especially compared to the locals. The local guys there get by with their salaries, while some struggle. The gals, being materialistic, given a choice to be with someone with great spending power, can spend lavishly without batting an eye-lid, cos many expenses are covered / can be reimbursed, chose to be with these foreign guys. Some gals know these foreign guys won't be around for long, but some dream these guys would stay on. This breaks many guys' hearts, also invokes lots of jealousy.

The black sheeps, namely those white trash and arrogant ones, have no respect nor regard for the locals, only making things worse. I'd seen / heard of incidents, these ang mohs provoke the locals, and say even if he gets into a fight, the Govt won't do anything to him. The law gives him the privilege, the benefits of doubts. But, if he turns around to accuse the locals, the local will be in big trouble. Furthermore, most of his expenses will be paid for. It's a big blow to the locals' ego & pride. Pride / ego is viewed as very important especially in Asia. If u are in the shoes of a local, how would u feel?

Again, when these black sheep caucasians are seen, probably even crossed-path with their arrogance against Singaporeans in China, how do u think they will feel?

[HoustonBoy]

This is something u dont quite understand about Asian culture, especially Singapore's (though I don't really consider Singapore as Asian anymore. It's trying to be ang moh, or caucasian). And this site is mainly visited by Singaporeans.

Especially with the Govt's Foreign Talent policy, many great job / career opportunities & privileges are given to ang mohs quite some years back. There are locals who are equally, if not more competent, but the privilege & benefit of doubts are given to foreigners. As a local, how would u feel?

These foreigners go work in Singapore, gets sky-high salary & super benefits, especially compared to the locals. The local guys there get by with their salaries, while some struggle. The gals, being materialistic, given a choice to be with someone with great spending power, can spend lavishly without batting an eye-lid, cos many expenses are covered / can be reimbursed, chose to be with these foreign guys. Some gals know these foreign guys won't be around for long, but some dream these guys would stay on. This breaks many guys' hearts, also invokes lots of jealousy.

The black sheeps, namely those white trash and arrogant ones, have no respect nor regard for the locals, only making things worse. I'd seen / heard of incidents, these ang mohs provoke the locals, and say even if he gets into a fight, the Govt won't do anything to him. The law gives him the privilege, the benefits of doubts. But, if he turns around to accuse the locals, the local will be in big trouble. Furthermore, most of his expenses will be paid for. It's a big blow to the locals' ego & pride. Pride / ego is viewed as very important especially in Asia. If u are in the shoes of a local, how would u feel?

Again, when these black sheep caucasians are seen, probably even crossed-path with their arrogance against Singaporeans in China, how do u think they will feel?

Bro,

So resentment against Ang Mo's because companies and Govt in Singapore give them preferential treatment is justified? In the same sense, if you go to China, don't you think you are treated better by the Govt, police, etc, than an average local? Will they be justified for hating you?

I have pride too, but don't let it get to you; instead, let it be your motivation to try and work harder.

[84gunner]

Bro,

So resentment against Ang Mo's because companies and Govt in Singapore give them preferential treatment is justified? In the same sense, if you go to China, don't you think you are treated better by the Govt, police, etc, than an average local? Will they be justified for hating you?

U didn't get my point. Many locals are unhappy with the Singapore Govt for it, but they kept it within themselves most of the time, until they were provoked, taunted, insulted, etc. Singporeans are not new to Ang Mohs. It was a British colony, until Independence in 1965.

It was black sheep / arrogant Ang Mohs who create trouble, especially after drinking / partying. They taunted & provoke locals by saying things mention in previous post, I even heard those Ang Mohs say Asian / Chinese girls are cheap, they can play / afford to play with any woman & all the women in the country they like, including the victims' mothers!

If the foreigners / Ang Mohs kept a low profile, it wouldn't draw so much attention, unhappiness & resentment towards them. In fact, those born in the pre-war (World War 2) days, and migrants who lived through WW2, they hate / resent the Japanese even more! There's quite some Japanese in Singapore all these years. The Japanese investments & factories have been in Singapore for decades. The Japanese also drink, party, sexual entertainment, etc, but they keep low profiles in most places.

Wherever we are, it's important to respect the locals & their culture. When I was in China, I do drink / party / sex entertainment, but I didn't make a high profile. I lived like a local, I didnt raise the eye-brows of the locals. The locals didnt bother much about me either. I show respect to my colleagues, neighbours & friends, and they reciprocated well too.

I didn't get any preferential treatment, my salary is structured by HR Department of the company, I'm paid the same category & rates, I get the same employee benefits as my local colleagues. Some of them are paid even higher than me! We do share & disclose salary details among each other! I pay the same tax rates as the local, less the social security. But then, they enjoy the social security benefits, while I don't! I take public transport, ie, buses & subway to work. I even do charity in China. But my salary is high enough for a very comfortable lifestyle, even when I take it to live in Europe.

Besides asking for directions, and registering for resident permit with the police, I didnt have any other experience with the police, because I didn't have any brushes with the law. I queued up in line with all the other people at the Public Security Bureau. So I don't know if I get better treatment from the police.

I certainly enjoy good relationships & living in China.

I have pride too, but don't let it get to you; instead, let it be your motivation to try and work harder.

Everyone has pride & ego, but how did this forum / thread / discussion hurt yr pride & ego?

Again, u don't understand. In Singapore, as an ordinary citizen, no matter how hard u work, you're not appreciated, the privileges & opportunities are not given to the citizens 1st. Unless he is a Government scholar, which, most times, it's because his family has connections.

Working hard, I think I did, still do and will continue to do. I'm privileged to be head-hunted, especially by European firms in recent years. In my course of work, I travelled half the globe. Though I'm at a pretty senior level, I show respect to even the lowest level employee, even the old auntie cleaners or dishwashers.

My civilised Ang Moh (Americans & Europeans) colleagues & associates, who were led by me in projects (also for entertainment) in Asia Pacific region, appreciate more of these experiences, cos when we show more respect to the locals (Asians), they appreciate the respect, and reciprocate more warmly & friendlier. We not only enjoy good working relationships, some amazing results at work were achieved, the projects / targets were successfully achieved, we made friends for life!

I'm always motivated by such results, especially in recent years, not so much by additional materialistic / monetary gains anymore. I'm happy with my current income.

[coolmanks]

Very well thought out and written reply. Much appreciated. Thanks:)

U didn't get my point.

[HoustonBoy]

U didn't get my point. Many locals are unhappy with the Singapore Govt for it, but they kept it within themselves most of the time, until they were provoked, taunted, insulted, etc. Singporeans are not new to Ang Mohs. It was a British colony, until Independence in 1965.

It was black sheep / arrogant Ang Mohs who create trouble, especially after drinking / partying. They taunted & provoke locals by saying things mention in previous post, I even heard those Ang Mohs say Asian / Chinese girls are cheap, they can play / afford to play with any woman & all the women in the country they like, including the victims' mothers!

If the foreigners / Ang Mohs kept a low profile, it wouldn't draw so much attention, unhappiness & resentment towards them. In fact, those born in the pre-war (World War 2) days, and migrants who lived through WW2, they hate / resent the Japanese even more! There's quite some Japanese in Singapore all these years. The Japanese investments & factories have been in Singapore for decades. The Japanese also drink, party, sexual entertainment, etc, but they keep low profiles in most places.

Wherever we are, it's important to respect the locals & their culture. When I was in China, I do drink / party / sex entertainment, but I didn't make a high profile. I lived like a local, I didnt raise the eye-brows of the locals. The locals didnt bother much about me either. I show respect to my colleagues, neighbours & friends, and they reciprocated well too.

I didn't get any preferential treatment, my salary is structured by HR Department of the company, I'm paid the same category & rates, I get the same employee benefits as my local colleagues. Some of them are paid even higher than me! We do share & disclose salary details among each other! I pay the same tax rates as the local, less the social security. But then, they enjoy the social security benefits, while I don't! I take public transport, ie, buses & subway to work. I even do charity in China. But my salary is high enough for a very comfortable lifestyle, even when I take it to live in Europe.

Besides asking for directions, and registering for resident permit with the police, I didnt have any other experience with the police, because I didn't have any brushes with the law. I queued up in line with all the other people at the Public Security Bureau. So I don't know if I get better treatment from the police.

I certainly enjoy good relationships & living in China.



Everyone has pride & ego, but how did this forum / thread / discussion hurt yr pride & ego?

Again, u don't understand. In Singapore, as an ordinary citizen, no matter how hard u work, you're not appreciated, the privileges & opportunities are not given to the citizens 1st. Unless he is a Government scholar, which, most times, it's because his family has connections.

Working hard, I think I did, still do and will continue to do. I'm privileged to be head-hunted, especially by European firms in recent years. In my course of work, I travelled half the globe. Though I'm at a pretty senior level, I show respect to even the lowest level employee, even the old auntie cleaners or dishwashers.

My civilised Ang Moh (Americans & Europeans) colleagues & associates, who were led by me in projects (also for entertainment) in Asia Pacific region, appreciate more of these experiences, cos when we show more respect to the locals (Asians), they appreciate the respect, and reciprocate more warmly & friendlier. We not only enjoy good working relationships, some amazing results at work were achieved, the projects / targets were successfully achieved, we made friends for life!

I'm always motivated by such results, especially in recent years, not so much by additional materialistic / monetary gains anymore. I'm happy with my current income.

You made a few good points and I understand your sentiments. Let's not generalize and catergorize all Ang Mo's into one group and you have shown in your replies that you have the intelligence and experience to know the difference.

I, myself, has seen and experience the ugly side of racism and discrimination. Athought I can't help it sometimes to poke fun at other groups of people among my friends, I don't hold a concious resentment against any ethnic groups in particular. I'm not bias, I hate everyone equally :)

The general feeling of this thread in particular conveys a deep overtone of racism and a condescending attitude vs foreigners -- of which I am voicing against. It's fine that certain a-butt individuals who happen to be foreigners that are disliked, but many others are respectful of our people and they didn't ask the Singapore govt for perferential treatment.

I bet if you goto any Asian country to teach English, they will more likely to hire and overpay a underqualified caucasion than better educated Asian. And isn't a fact that if you're beautiful, tall, or wealthy (born with silver spoon), you'll get better treatment in general? Should they be hated on too because society automatically view those qualities as superior?

[84gunner]

You made a few good points and I understand your sentiments. Let's not generalize and catergorize all Ang Mo's into one group and you have shown in your replies that you have the intelligence and experience to know the difference.

I, myself, has seen and experience the ugly side of racism and discrimination. Athought I can't help it sometimes to poke fun at other groups of people among my friends, I don't hold a concious resentment against any ethnic groups in particular. I'm not bias, I hate everyone equally :)

The general feeling of this thread in particular conveys a deep overtone of racism and a condescending attitude vs foreigners -- of which I am voicing against. It's fine that certain a-butt individuals who happen to be foreigners that are disliked, but many others are respectful of our people and they didn't ask the Singapore govt for perferential treatment.

I bet if you goto any Asian country to teach English, they will more likely to hire and overpay a underqualified caucasion than better educated Asian. And isn't a fact that if you're beautiful, tall, or wealthy (born with silver spoon), you'll get better treatment in general? Should they be hated on too because society automatically view those qualities as superior?

It is normal for people to generalise. As a foreigner in a foreign land, it calls for more tolerance towards the locals / the regional people. For someone who travels or in a foreign land for work, all the more he should have the maturity & magnanimity. I have encountered many Ang Mohs who generalise too, often commenting negatively / harshly towards Asians. In some parts of Europe, some Places of Interests (museums, exhibition halls, etc) even ban some races (especially Asians) from visiting, some even have signboards at the entrances, outrightly banning those races, they even rate pets such as dogs more superior than Asian humans!!!

The democracy in Caucasian countries is somewhat different from Asian countries, it varies from country to country. Some countries claim to be Democratic, but they are worse than Communists! Nobody here said foreigners or the Ang Mohs ask the Singapore Govt for preferential treatment. It is the many provocations by the Ang Mohs on the streets that adds oil to the fire, invoking this resentment. Again, you may thank the black sheeps for it. And again, comparing with the Japanese, there are many Japanese expats across Asia in recent decades, they work in very high positions, get very high salaries & super benefits, they do drink, party, sexual entertainment, but u don't hear / feel that much resentment against them. The main difference is that they keep a much lower profile, humble & polite.

It is true that many Asians can't differentiate the different types of Ang Mohs. Especially in Europe, many countries don't speak English as their mother's tongue. It is the higher profile Ang Moh countries such as USA, UK, Australia, etc, that speak English as their mother's tongue. Therefore many Asians think that English is the Ang Mohs' native language, therefore, to learn English, they'll naturally think it's better to learn English from an Ang Moh rather than an Asian! Which Asian country has English as it's mother's tongue? This creates a market in English Language Education. Even English language itself has 2 main different "types", the American English, and the Queen's English.

It's just like many Caucasians can't differentiate between the different types of Asians. Even Chinese language, Mandarin, itself has some differences. In many Caucasian countries, many Taiwanese are engaged teach Chinese / Mandarin. Those Caucasians didn't know there's differences in Taiwanese Chinese and Mainland China's Chinese, until they travelled to China. Better still if u get a HongKong Chinese to teach Chinese language. Some words & phrases are different. Even the words are written differently in these regions!

We can't help it on the streets anywhere when people give the benefits of doubt to the richer / physically better looking people. It is almost everywhere. But it's not so acceptable with Govts who call themselves Democratic. Democratic Govts run & function by rules / policies that should treat everyone / all citizens equally. The rich-poor gap is 1 of Democratic Govts' concern, especially if it's too wide. When it becomes too wide, the poor are suppressed beyond a certain threshold, the society is at higher risk of unbalance & chaos. Isn't that how Communism evolved? Would you like to be under Communist rule?

As an advice, it's better for an Ang Moh to keep a lower profile (thanks to the damage by those black sheeps), be more humble & polite in Asia. Maybe be an "Ambassador" for the Ang Mohs, show the Asians / Singaporeans that there are good & nice Ang Mohs too. I believe that will lead to a more enjoyable stay & life in Asia. Several of my Ang Moh colleagues / associates enjoyed so much, they told me they don't wish to go back home, they wanna continue living in Asia, preferably for the rest of their lives!

[holeinone6666]

hi bro Chonburiboy; I fullly agree with you and support you about these cb angmohs. some of them even behave like they own the place, talking loudly and showing off their "white supremacy" attitude. If they just misbehave slightly, we should kick their balls so hard they will learn to behave properly in Asian cities. cheerio, bro!!!!

[JediSkull]

LKY is chinese supremist!~!~ love the way he tekkan the talkhost during BBC's HARDTALK!~!~ anyway in this world its always every men for himself!~!~