Is there true love between us and PRC WL

[porscheclub]

That's very true indeed. Think long and hard before marriage. However not marrying the one you love most doesn't constitute a valid reason for abandoning a family for a new flame. Besides we would only truly know who the greatest love of our lives is at our deathbed? People change and thats a fact of life thats why theres the institution of marriage to keep people in a life long partnership: In health and in sickness, in happiness and in woe. This forum has lots of members and i wager there are definitely brothers and sisters here on a higher moral ground than we are.Not all the topics are sinful either.

Yes, I'm a good eg. & I hope young people don't follow my footsteps. Our generation don't quite understand the meaning of marriage & simply sign on the paper. It's a great deal of responsibilities for a lifetime, not 5 or 15 yrs but 50yrs or as long as either one lives. I have probably half or a third of my friends & relatives who are divorced & one has even remarried 3x! Do they not know what they want?

The worst was a catholic friend, she got abused by husband but suffered for a good 11yrs before she threw in the towel because the religion don't allow divorce. By the time she left him, she's lost her youth, a tooth and countless bruises.

I did not say I'm abandoning my family. It's a fine line. I'm struggling to keep it and 1 heart pain (me) is better than many hearts. My gal may not be a PRC, she could jolly well be a local or even an office colleague.

I believe human nature are kind & most are forced by circumstances. Our society here has been kind & almost all if not all citizens have education to sustain a quality life. Not all PRCs or prostitutes are bad. In my younger days, I backpacked & even stayed with prostitutes for a few days, slept with one, eat with them, learn her language/culture/food. Most come from very poor family with no skills or education & this trade is the only one that they as a woman can do for the family. They are flesh & blood as well. Oh well, time has changed, now the gals want to support branded stuffs!

Anyway, thanks for all the advises and please, go ahead to hammer me. I need it.

[MichaelWinn]

Anyway, thanks for all the advises and please, go ahead to hammer me. I need it.

no need to hammer you becos scientists believe man was not born to be a monogamous creature, early mankind procreated freely, later on marriage and religion was insitutioned to control man's behaviour:D

[colins]

no need to hammer you becos scientists believe man was not born to be a monogamous creature, early mankind procreated freely, later on marriage and religion was insitutioned to control man's behaviour:D

Thats right!

[goodpartner]

Anyway, thanks for all the advises and please, go ahead to hammer me. I need it.

Stumbled upon a link to an old archive write-up by the stickman; spent quite a while reading through the "novel". This quote below, imho, is very applicable for us to ponder if we ever want to marry a WL: (Just replace all mention of "bar girl" with "WL", and "Thai" with "PRC". Farang means foreigner, in this case, us.)

I see the following as the key reasons why you should never marry a Thai bar girl (and there are many.):

- It's an inter-racial relationship. These can be tricky to start with, forgetting even that she's a bar girl.

- Most of the girls are very poorly educated. The crux of the situation is that many of these girls are NOT at all intelligent and some of them are quite simply simple country girls. You cannot have any sort of deep, meaningful or intelligent conversation with them - that's fine if this is not important to you but if it is then you have a problem. Think of the least educated folks that you have ever met or known...perhaps they speak poor English, are lazy or are just generally unpleasant - well, that is how a lot of Thai society views these girls - yep, sad but true. I have yet to meet a Thai bar girl who aspires to any sort of intellectual challenge or pursuit. It so often seems that they consider only their daily needs and little else. Would you marry a girl in your homeland with an education of no more than six years - if no, why the hell are you considering it in Thailand? Remember, this girl went from the relative isolation of a small village with few Western comforts or influences straight to the huge metropolis of Bangkok. Western comforts, values and ideas are completely new to her.

- Thai bar girls are the world's biggest liars and are very polished at it - they should be in the bloody Guinness book of records. How can you marry someone who is dishonest and that you cannot trust? During their time in the bars, a lot of these girls have heard lie after lie after lie and now they find it very hard to trust any farang so not only will you most likely find that you cannot trust them but also that they will not be able to trust you! Worse still, many have a complete lack of integrity and quite willing to sell not only their body but indeed, their soul too.

- Would you marry a girl you met in your own country in a bar and only knew for about two weeks - in some cases, less? If no, well, why do it in Thailand then?

- Do you want to support her family for the rest of your / her / their life? Family is number one to a Thai! Yes, there will be consistent requests to send money to her family and support them and maybe even half of the deadbeat no-hoper villagers. These may come in the form of direct questions or perhaps more often with sob stories "mother / father / grandmother is sick", "the buffalo died and we need a new one" or "we need a new pickup truck!" And what about that boyfriend or husband on the side that you didn't know existed! Worst of all, if you don't want to "help out" financially, then she may well start playing silly games like threatening to return to the bar. This threat will come up over and over again in other situations where her request for something that needs to be financed by you is denied... And one thing is guaranteed: The day the money runs out is 100%, the last day of the marriage!

- Do you want to pay a dowry to her family for her? While I have a reasonable understanding of why it is asked for (yet fundamentally disagree with that reason!), I find the idea abhorrent and I know that I will never ever pay a dowry to anyone! Some farangs do accept this however - it's an individual thing. Prices vary but about 50,000 baht is a fair figure for Isaan girls. Personally, I think bar girls don't command a price at all...in fact if anything, they should be paying us as it is them who will not be looked after financially. Why do we pay for the right to take them on as a financial burden? And don't think that the requests for money from the family will stop once the dowry has been paid. Stories of pain and hardship will forever filter down from the family, to the point that you no longer want to pick up the telephone, dreading the next hard luck story and you'll find yourself forever contemplating your next "sorry, I am broke too" response.

- At the end of the day, while work may not be available in the country, work most definitely *is* available in Bangkok. There are numerous jobs paying a modest salary and this goes to show that these girls have simply taken the easy way out. The idea of real work simply doesn't appeal to many of them and you can get the distinct impression that a lot of these girls are lazy. Stories that they are required to send so many thousand baht to support their family are in some cases just that, stories. At the end of the day, families from the poorer parts of Thailand can and in fact do survive on what we as Westerners would consider a meagre budget. In actual fact, only a small percentage of what is made by the girls in the bars seems to make it up to the family. Many bar girls spend whatever they have on often frivolous and unnecessary things. Such disturbing trends continue into a relationship.

- Thais, particularly the poorer Thais, are not the most adaptable people. While as foreigners we come to Thailand, most of us try and respect the culture and behave in a way which the Thais find acceptable even if it may be quite different from what we are used to. We are able to reconcile the Thai culture with that of our own. The Thais, especially the lower class (which the bar girls are) are not so good at adapting to different ways of doing things and more often than not are totally unable to comprehend the way we view things. They see the Thai way as the right way - or sometimes even the only way to do things. Therefore, the lack of Thai food, Thai people, Thai language, Thai cartoon books (!!!) etc. will drive them to boredom which can turn into frustration - and then you have problems. They may well end up spending a lot of their time with other former Thai bar girls in your country and that creates a VERY dangerous situation. Don't expect them to integrate into your foreign lifestyle easily, if at all. And some of them are downright stubborn and simply refuse to change - no som tum can make Mrs. Recently Married a very sad, upset lass.

- Are you going to tell your friends and family the truth about your wife. "Oh yeah mother, she used to be a prostitute, but what the hell, I decided to marry her!" Of course you wouldn't! If you do tell them, I admire you, I really do - but I bet you don't!. And if you can't do this, then you are just living one big lie with those people who are supposedly closest to you!

- If the girl has been working in the industry for quite a while, her whole life may be in some way intertwined with the bar scene - all of her friends work there and all of her fun is had there. I really believe that there comes a point where it gets very hard to successfully break a girl out of the scene - perhaps even, almost impossible. If any of the girl's family members have also worked in the commercial sex industry, then quite simply forget it.

- You can't mix your girls! So, you know some educated Thais back in your homeland and think that your new girlfriend / wife would like to meet them? Stop! Thais from different socio-economic groups seldom mix unless it is necessary. The rich hang out with the rich and poor with the poor - far more so than in the west. And if you do choose to socialise with Thais from different socio-economic backgrounds, your middle / upper class friends' opinion of you will plummet! (This piece of advice holds true whether you marry a bar girl or not. NEVER EVER introduce a bar girl to your decent Thai friends.) So, if you marry a Thai bar girl, you could and in fact most probably will, lose some of your existing Thai friends! And if you work in Thailand, I hope you don't work with anyone too important because they sure ain't going to be impressed by your new Mrs...scorn, lack of respect and bewilderment are likely reactions.

- Do you speak Thai? No, not that bar scene drivel you have picked up - I mean can you talk about just about anything in Thai? No, I bet you can't! Well, she is going to take a long time (my two favourite words a couple of years ago) to learn English to a reasonable level due to all of English's peculiarities and complexities. Trust me, that "I love you darling", "you buy cola" and "I boom boom good na" are about the limit of her English skills. Communication is therefore going to be difficult for a long time (the two magic words again!). Further, as deceitful as it sounds, you *need* to speak Thai, even if her English is pretty good, because some of these girls say some really awful things about guys they are with and you need to be able to eliminate that sort of nonsense carry on.

[goodpartner]

continue...

- Money burns a hole in their pocket. It really doesn't matter how much money you give / allow for them, they manage to get rid of it either through spending, gambling or even giving it away! The idea of saving for the future seldom comes into their way of thinking...

- Once she has left the bar, what is she going to do? A lot of these girls develop bad habits and can become very lazy. Do you want her just sitting around the house all do watching TV?

- At the end of the day, these girls are prostitutes and they simply just have a different way of operating from prostitutes in the West and they give you the illusion of temporarily being your girlfriend.

- You are a farang in a relationship with an ex bar girl. The expectation of the girl's friends and peers is that you will look after her better than the equivalent Thai man would and shower her with gifts, gold and money. Therefore, if you just treat her averagely, she will essentially lose face because her "rich farang boyfriend" is not spending his enormous wealth on her, but on other things....you can't win! And whether you are wealthy or not, uneducated Thais see all farangs as wealthy - because compared to them we most likely are.

- If you take her back to your home country, she will embarrass you like you have never been embarrassed before. She'll be like a mixture of a new grown up daughter assuming the obligatory 20+ year age gap and a new dog who has to be house trained.

- And you! Can you be faithful? You met her in a bar but I met you met lots of other girls too...maybe 10, maybe 50, maybe even more. Can you remain faithful to her? Too many folks that marry bar girls to do not give the girl the respect that she deserves as their wife and justify their extra marital activities as "only cheating on a bar girl" - not good! Are you truly prepared to forget that she was ever a bar girl? While I do not want to take the moral high ground, I have always felt that if you can't be faithful, maybe marriage is not a good idea...

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The road to a long term relationship with a bar girl is fraught with all sorts of complications. It will be an extremely rocky road but it CAN work. (- in my opinion, about 5% of cases.) Having said that, it would be better to get a girl without the emotional baggage that a stint in the bars leaves them with and preferably a girl who grew up in one of the centres as opposed to the countryside. If you go down this path, prepare for the worst - but know that maybe, just maybe, it may work!




Oh well, ok, maybe PRC and Sg chinese are all of the same "race", so some points above don't apply :)

Still, I found a few new perspectives above not commonly mentioned in this forum.

The statement that resonate most with me is "if you can't be faithful, maybe marriage is not a good idea... " :D

[friendster]

Why have so many twits populated this forum?????:rolleyes:

I started this place so that people could exchange info about COMMERCIAL SEX!

It has ended up as some sort of "Agony Aunt" column. :confused:

Can't you guys just fuck those broads and be done with it??? How on earth does love come into the the picture for chrissake????? :eek:


Good one BOSS! Now adays so many young boys sia school holiday ah, saw another lame thread asking water kill HIV ... why so many stupid wtf qns posted now a days! :confused:

[aczeta76]

Goodpartner

interesting post u have. and YES, there are a lot of similarities

haiz.. sometimes, I oso have to pretend not to think to much else... like my GF fav comment when I talk about anything serious..."Wo tou Tong.. Bie Shuo Le, Wo Men Zuo Ai ba"

"Dun say anymore, I am getting headache... let's go make love":p

[EtherC]

Its pretty scary to look at divorce statistics in SG. Like most developed places in the world the divorce rate in SG is ever increasing. From my observations of the people around me I seem to find this trend that some people who have the aptitude for marriage seem to avoid it while many without the aptitude seem to get married. The logic of this eludes me. People get married for so many wrong reasons these days and many do it just for the sake of getting married. Marriage has degenerated into this very material partnership contract. It's just not sacred anymore.

We men are just too greedy at times. Like you said sex with feelings is so much more intense. I definitely agree. Seems to me though that you had that before and you kinda miss it so you took the initiative and reclaimed that which you lost. I'm not hammering you or PRCs or WLs. Im a patron of WLs, not some paragon of virtue smiting you with some holier than thou morality lessons. The question me and Colin are asking you is: " Is the fleeting moment of bliss worth it?" I would like to ask another question: "How certain are you that its real?". When you say you're not abandoning your family and struggling to keep it, I see it being a situation where a sailor punches holes in his own ship and tries hard to plug the holes with his fingers. Then again its your life and the ball in in your court, so best of luck to your family.

Yes, I'm a good eg. & I hope young people don't follow my footsteps. Our generation don't quite understand the meaning of marriage & simply sign on the paper. It's a great deal of responsibilities for a lifetime, not 5 or 15 yrs but 50yrs or as long as either one lives. I have probably half or a third of my friends & relatives who are divorced & one has even remarried 3x! Do they not know what they want?

The worst was a catholic friend, she got abused by husband but suffered for a good 11yrs before she threw in the towel because the religion don't allow divorce. By the time she left him, she's lost her youth, a tooth and countless bruises.

I did not say I'm abandoning my family. It's a fine line. I'm struggling to keep it and 1 heart pain (me) is better than many hearts. My gal may not be a PRC, she could jolly well be a local or even an office colleague.

I believe human nature are kind & most are forced by circumstances. Our society here has been kind & almost all if not all citizens have education to sustain a quality life. Not all PRCs or prostitutes are bad. In my younger days, I backpacked & even stayed with prostitutes for a few days, slept with one, eat with them, learn her language/culture/food. Most come from very poor family with no skills or education & this trade is the only one that they as a woman can do for the family. They are flesh & blood as well. Oh well, time has changed, now the gals want to support branded stuffs!

Anyway, thanks for all the advises and please, go ahead to hammer me. I need it.

[newbadass]

Good one BOSS! Now adays so many young boys sia school holiday ah, saw another lame thread asking water kill HIV ... why so many stupid wtf qns posted now a days! :confused:

Boss has forgotten that the people using this forum are not animals who just "fuck and go" all the time. Human beings have egos. Ironically, our higher IQ is our curse. Our capacity for complex emotions makes us vulnerable! :eek:

[aczeta76]

Good one BOSS! Now adays so many young boys sia school holiday ah, saw another lame thread asking water kill HIV ... why so many stupid wtf qns posted now a days! :confused:

hhmmmm... bootlicker.. perhaps I should zap you :D

[warbird]

...I met this Dalian gal early this year & over the pass 5 months, we became a pair of yuanyang. She's a singer in a high class KTV & when we met, she's just 3 months into this scene or so she said. She does not sell (I've checked on it) & since she's just about 20 then, she's pretty green in this trade. She's got quite a temper to match as well & she's known to have walked out on a few customers who got touchy with her. Somehow.....we clicked, maybe it was love @ first sight...

...Oh yes, & did I forget to mention that she wants a flat for her & mum? (this costs about S$200K now) ...

Did she work at a high-end KTV near Selegie Rd? According to my reliable frens, all the singers there are available for about 1k/1/1. They ar here for one thing only: as much money as possible in as little time as possible. I hv seen a few of them. They all want to catch a big fish. About 2 months ago, one of ur fellow men dropped 200k at the club in one night to celebrate his engagement to a singer there.

The other big problem in ur future relationship is her bad temper. You'll be miserable. Everything being equal, I would rather marry a 7/10 gal w/ a good temper than a 10/10 w/ a bad temper.

Just my 2 cents.

[aczeta76]

Did she work at a high-end KTV near Selegie Rd? According to my reliable frens, all the singers there are available for about 1k/1/1. They ar here for one thing only: as much money as possible in as little time as possible. I hv seen a few of them. They all want to catch a big fish. About 2 months ago, one of ur fellow men dropped 200k at the club in one night to celebrate his engagement to a singer there.

The other big problem in ur future relationship is her bad temper. You'll be miserable. Everything being equal, I would rather marry a 7/10 gal w/ a good temper than a 10/10 w/ a bad temper.
Just my 2 cents.

here here... a toast to that.:D

[aczeta76]

Hmmm.... it is a "thinking" day for me..

Haiz.. after many weeks of trying to find Xiao Ping (From Sianren's thread) online, I finally chatted with her "LIVE"

For the entire period, failing to get a response from her after she told me she was safe at home was quite tormenting... We are friends so I tot if she also treat me like that, then me and my GF chances slim liao.

After YTD, felt better and yet strangely sad as I somehow yearn to hold her in my arms but in the end I said "Let's put things behind us and continue to be juz friends, I will visit u if I am around your hometown". That made me close the chapter and a happier man since now I have her as a friend with no SEX attached.

Miss my GF and after reading some online posting, felt worse... luckily, Wu Li is still around so I can get some GFE from her tomorrow (She reminds me of my 1st GF at age 16.. those simple, Chun Chun love)

Well, sharing the chinese postings below.

让大家感受一下什么是爱。。男孩和女孩是一对情侣，女孩喜欢感受下雨，男孩种是在下雨的时候为女孩撑着伞， 伞的大半部分都是遮着女孩的，每次雨水都打湿着男孩的身子，他没说什么，只是默默看着女孩陶醉的脸。他觉得 很幸福，女孩也觉得很幸福。 有天，男孩和女孩去游玩，男孩挽着女孩的手，正路过一个建筑工地，女孩兴奋的跳着嘴里还在说着些什么。 男孩很少说话只是默默的看着她开心自己也开心。正说着的时候突然从楼上落下一块不大不小的碎石，正朝女孩头 上砸来，此时已经来不急了，男孩一把抱过女孩，女孩尖叫了声。他想用自己的身体挡着碎石，正当快着地的时候 ，男孩猛的翻了个身让自己身体朝下，结果只是女孩的手被碎石砸到，骨折了。 女孩也才刚反应过来，痛的叫了出来，结果眼泪出来了，她想：古话‘夫妻本是同林鸟，大难临头各自飞’这 句话果然没错。想着强忍着痛从男孩身上爬了起来。看也不看男孩一眼慢慢的跑了。 此时男孩在背后呼唤着女孩的名字，声音颤抖，嘴唇已经发白。他拿出手机拨了女孩的号码，女孩没接， 再拨还是没接。反复几次他放弃了。只是手指在手机上按着什么，这时候男孩身边的血慢慢的蔓延开，他手垂了下 来手机趟在血泊中，再也没力气按下发送键。 第二天，女孩得知男孩在医院抢救的消息，也顾不上生气就往医院跑。当她到医院的时候，医生已经宣布男孩 抢救无效死亡了。原因是肺部失血过多。 原来当男孩想用身子挡着碎石的时候猛的发现地上矗立着一根十几厘米的钢筋。就猛的翻个身。用尽全身 的力气只让碎石砸到女孩的手。自己却让钢筋插进肺部。 男孩的母亲把男孩的手机交到女孩手里，女还看着那还未发出去的短信：亲爱的，对不起我还是没能保护 你，让你手受伤了……看到这里女孩再也忍不住了涌出眼眶，冲向到往男孩的天堂…… -------- -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -- 相爱的时候，女人会一次次地提出：我们分手吧！ 　　男人只是本能的愤怒，他会猜疑她是不是因为另有新欢而背叛了他，他会气恼女人的绝情而大声呵斥她， 在女人真正转身地那一刻，男人除了悲愤地看着她的背影离去而没有一句挽留！ 　　女人一路上一直期待男人会跑上来，拉着她的手，挽留她，说声：宝贝，我爱你！别走！等到泪已尽，仍 然听不到任何声响，爱情就这样夭折了！ 　　男人怎懂女人？说分手只是为了被挽留！ 　　每一次说分手，女人都会很害怕，怕你们会真的离去，每一次说分手，女人都很期待，期待你们的挽留， 让她知道你在乎他，你舍不得她走，每一次说分手，女人都很无奈，你的一些微妙变化让她不再肯定你是否还那样 爱她，所以她拿放弃做赌注，如果输了，只是你真的不够爱她！每一次当分手成了事实，女人会伤心欲绝，男人为 什么不懂女人的心思？ 　　女人说分手，只是真的爱你！只是太在乎你！只是你的一些微妙变化让女人恐慌！让女人心不安！只是女 人想弄明白你是否还爱着她？
　　女人以为，爱情的迷茫不肯定会让自己有足够的勇气，做好准备等待男人最糟糕的答案，女人以为爱情就象一 个开关，啪地一声打开，啪地一声关闭，女人以为及时拨掉电源就可以幸免于毁灭，女人以为分手可以解决所有的 困惑、痛苦、忧郁，女人以为缓慢的生长可以愈合此处的断裂，女人以为她说分手你会挽留她！ 　　然而这都是只女人的一相情愿，多少此时的男人是默默看着自己心爱的女人离去而没有挽留？女人的心凉 了，为什么男人不懂女人的心思？ 　　女人只有独自在黑夜中哼着悲曲，用泪水把心中的苦涩一遍遍洗刷…… 　　你不够爱我 　　也许某一天 　　我想起你也是一件很远很远的事
　　那一天，在未来的未来 663H 　　再远处，是衰老，更远处，是死亡！ 　　近处是分手，其实是真的爱你，太害怕失去你！只是你永远不懂！还是不懂！ 　　命中注定无法永远！ 男人永远不懂 ,女人说分手是为了挽留 �40;碎石，正朝女孩头上砸来，此时已经来不急了，男孩一把抱过女孩，女 孩尖叫了声。他想用自己的身体挡着碎石，正当快着地的时候+

[warbird]

The other big problem in ur future relationship is her bad temper. You'll be miserable. Everything being equal, I would rather marry a 7/10 gal w/ a good temper than a 10/10 w/ a bad temper.

I meant to write: "Everything else being equal, I would rather marry a 7/10 gal w/ a good temper than a 10/10 w/ a bad temper." Sorry for the typo.

Of course one could make an exception if the 10/10 gal is also very wealthy...ha ha. The strategy here is to get hitched, bonk her everyday, try to stick around for couple of yrs; and when u really can't tahan her terrible temper, divorce her n collect ur tens of millions! But this is a dangerous game, suitable only for men w/ formidable emotional control n detachment. If u fall for her despite her hideous temper, u will be a miserable slave until eternity!

Joking aside, I hv seen both types of men described above. Ok, their wives are not exactly 10/10 but only 8-9/10.

Good night!

[wanrenmiok]

stay away from PRC WL: all these are fakes - my own experience:

In the past, I have known a PRC WL woman for 6 months, she is quite charming and likeable, even her voice sounded so sweet. She once told me I am her dearest person in her life and want to be together with me. Maybe I had told her everything about myself, my pay and expenses...But to prove myself right that she is out to suck me dry dry slowly, I then planned and cocked up a story about myself, how pitiful I had became, and how I lost all my savings convincingly in just 2 weeks.

True to my intuition, she then scolded me very nasty every few days, I also dont know what I have done to deserve that and nobody has ever scolded me that way in my life, she said she had given me many chances, asked me to stop bothering her, and stop calling her anymore, or she will change her hp number!!! Her true colors finally surfaced....

The scenario I wanted happened, how I wish she leave me faster haha!

[Heart Break Kid]

stay away from PRC WL: all these are fakes - my own experience:

In the past, I have known a PRC WL woman for 6 months, she is quite charming and likeable, even her voice sounded so sweet. She once told me I am her dearest person in her life and want to be together with me. Maybe I had told her everything about myself, my pay and expenses...But to prove myself right that she is out to suck me dry dry slowly, I then planned and cocked up a story about myself, how pitiful I had became, and how I lost all my savings convincingly in just 2 weeks.

True to my intuition, she then scolded me very nasty every few days, I also dont know what I have done to deserve that and nobody has ever scolded me that way in my life, she said she had given me many chances, asked me to stop bothering her, and stop calling her anymore, or she will change her hp number!!! Her true colors finally surfaced....

The scenario I wanted happened, how I wish she leave me faster haha!

Not just to PRC WL only ..try tell your S'pore or Msia gf that you had no money & no saving for the future and see how they treat you :D

[Xena]

All chabors need guys to be their financial backer ... so if they dont feel like working, they can just resign, not like us guys ....

[Heart Break Kid]

All chabors need guys to be their financial backer ... so if they dont feel like working, they can just resign, not like us guys ....

In today world.. this is the fact of life. No money no honey :confused:

Minimum basics for girls to consider you - you must have money to buy a 4-room flat & stable income job :p:p

S'pore & Msia girls is already behaving money-minded ..let alone those PRC WL lah.

[porscheclub]

here here... a toast to that.:D

Yes, bro a toast to us indeed!

And i just came back after a holiday trip with my gal :p

We met in HongKong after a month. A week is tormenting not to mention four & a half. I picked her up @ the airport & we hugged each other for the longest time & tears flowed down her eyes. Luckily, her mascara is waterproof.

This was a sextified trip for both of us, we were literally raping each other like apes. 4D3N of non stop action packed holiday. We discussed many issues, went touring, prayed @ the huang tai xian temple, petted @ a quiet corner in the Peak with a full lighted view of HK nightscape behind us....

She's mellowed a lot & took care of me like a lover and no, she didn't asked for money or commitment. We ate simply, shopped briefly and made out passionately. She's really deeply in love with me. Her orgasm was so intense each time that her face is perpetually pinkish red, dreamy eyes with a moist tender body covered by our sweat. She would want to bear me a child but she'd like a wedding in a church. Young gal's dream....

[MOTORAZR]

In today world.. this is the fact of life. No money no honey :confused:

Minimum basics for girls to consider you - you must have money to buy a 4-room flat & stable income job :p:p

S'pore & Msia girls is already behaving money-minded ..let alone those PRC WL lah.

It work like this:

China Girl: they will ask you outright how much you made, you will know most of them are in for the money and a better lifestyle. Sad to say this, but it is like a trade, you provide me with something and i will return in kind.

Singapore Girl: They say they are not materialise, then last time where the 5 Cs come from? They are not materialistic, but they want a guy with a degree, a stable job most likely a manager or something, then car will be an advantage and you have to be funny, caring and pour your concern over them. The best part is most singapore girls hardly or don't cook at all, they are usually terrible in cooking, they are not used to doing house chores. You can say that they earn more BUT they freakingly also spend much more.

Malaysia Girl: Dunno where to start and how to end for Malaysian girls. Hahahaha.

So end up, its really what you want out of a relationship, someone to take care of you or someone of the same level as u...

[Heart Break Kid]

Regardless of nationality, never look for KTV girls or WL lah... all these are low-life fucked up trashes.

Before China girls come to S'pore in 80's & 90's.. there are also s'pore & msia working in nightclubs as GRO selling their bodies but then now when is those old spore & msia niteclub's working ladies. They become old & disappear :confused:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Did she work at a high-end KTV near Selegie Rd? According to my reliable frens, all the singers there are available for about 1k/1/1. They ar here for one thing only: as much money as possible in as little time as possible. I hv seen a few of them. They all want to catch a big fish. About 2 months ago, one of ur fellow men dropped 200k at the club in one night to celebrate his engagement to a singer there.

The other big problem in ur future relationship is her bad temper. You'll be miserable. Everything being equal, I would rather marry a 7/10 gal w/ a good temper than a 10/10 w/ a bad temper.

Just my 2 cents.

Ya & 90% of them at Sophia Road are from Sichuan....wif the exception of 1 from singapore and from other places like shenyang...hahahaha

[porscheclub]

It work like this:
So end up, its really what you want out of a relationship, someone to take care of you or someone of the same level as u...

It's all the same everywhere & you've got to look beyond nationality. Look, when a woman wants to settle down, the man must be able to provide for her. Love alone cannot feed you. Unless, of course she can provide for herself and when your spouse makes more than you, how long can the prick in you tahan?

20yrs ago when a Singapore guy wants to marry a Malaysian girl. People talk.

Then, Vietnamese, Filipinos, Thai, PRC etc etc. citizens from there just want a better life than home so they'll look elsewhere. If Singapore is still stuck in a 70s era with low education & salary of no more than S$500 today, our gals will be working elsewhere & looking to marry off. What will those people gossip about us?

It's just that the PRCs come in such a huge army these days that the situation get magnified & of course their mentality to strike gold here.

[porscheclub]

Regardless of nationality, never look for KTV girls or WL lah... all these are low-life fucked up trashes.

Not quite true, either you haven't met the good ones or that my eyes got stamp :D

[Heart Break Kid]

It's all the same everywhere & you've got to look beyond nationality. Look, when a woman wants to settle down, the man must be able to provide for her. Love alone cannot feed you. Unless, of course she can provide for herself and when your spouse makes more than you, how long can the prick in you tahan?

20yrs ago when a Singapore guy wants to marry a Malaysian girl. People talk.

Then, Vietnamese, Filipinos, Thai, PRC etc etc. citizens from there just want a better life than home so they'll look elsewhere. If Singapore is still stuck in a 70s era with low education & salary of no more than S$500 today, our gals will be working elsewhere & looking to marry off. What will those people gossip about us?

It's just that the PRCs come in such a huge army these days that the situation get magnified & of course their mentality to strike gold here.

I admired the PRC girls most because they not only just come to S'pore but also made the S'pore & Msia girls in this island - no place to stand :D

[raw_enjoyment]

I admired the PRC girls most because they not only just come to S'pore but also made the S'pore & Msia girls in this island - no place to stand :Dwhat you said is quite true

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I admired the PRC girls most because they not only just come to S'pore but also made the S'pore & Msia girls in this island - no place to stand :D

Well sais dude.
They've cum, they've conquered.......everywhere!!!!!!

[MOTORAZR]

Well sais dude.
They've cum, they've conquered.......everywhere!!!!!!

Well just 1% of their population which is not bad looking flow over to singapore and you also can't finish eating leow.. thats the beauty of mainland china.. Cheers mate...

[Heart Break Kid]

what you said is quite true

Yo ..its very true

Well sais dude.
They've cum, they've conquered.......everywhere!!!!!!

In next coming 10 years.. our hawkers & lower level staff in service & manufacturing sectors will be dominate by PRC :D

[aces68]

Yo ..its very true



In next coming 10 years.. our hawkers & lower level staff in service & manufacturing sectors will be dominate by PRC :D

I agree, I noticed recently a lot of hawker at food courts are PRC :p

[fourDhunter]

I agree, I noticed recently a lot of hawker at food courts are PRC :p

also the airport cleaners all prc as well

[Whatodo]

Hi guys,

Can I ask if you guys TT "pin jin" to your PRC wife before officially married?

[Black Dragon]

Hi guys,

Can I ask if you guys TT "pin jin" to your PRC wife before officially married?

DO NOT DO IT!!!!!!!! :eek: Sounds too fishy.

[ziyi]

Wow another bro falling for PRC ... anyway, if you really getting married, dont TT ping kim first whatever it is.

[aczeta76]

Hi guys,

Can I ask if you guys TT "pin jin" to your PRC wife before officially married?

No one TT Pin Jin one lah... esp if it is a subtantial sum.

Do you b/g checks before marriage or u may be bleed dry in the worst scenario.

Take care

[Mumm-Ra]

I admired the PRC girls most because they not only just come to S'pore but also made the S'pore & Msia girls in this island - no place to stand :D

Agree...but that is only until you run out of money. Then... they become just like Sporean girls if not worst! :D

[N E R O]

In this modern world, increasingly money is everything despite what people say ... health blah blah blah ... so whereever it ios gers are only interested in $$$$

[ministrel]

To a certain degree I agree, some may say PRCs gers want money to satisfy basic needs , but local gers to satisfy their demand for luxury items ... :eek:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Latest update folks.
Went for golf yest at the Legends in Kulai, JB and got a shock of my life.
They have 17PRC caddies from ChongQing, Sichuan.
All SYT 19yrs old avg.
Was told they dun leave their hostel at nite, not allowed to blah blah but some were really tempting.
Well, here we go, they've conquered a 5star golf course across the border liao..hahaha

[Heart Break Kid]

Latest update folks.
Went for golf yest at the Legends in Kulai, JB and got a shock of my life.
They have 17PRC caddies from ChongQing, Sichuan.
All SYT 19yrs old avg.
Was told they dun leave their hostel at nite, not allowed to blah blah but some were really tempting.
Well, here we go, they've conquered a 5star golf course across the border liao..hahaha

huh ..I want to go there play 9 holes with PRC mei mei :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

huh ..I want to go there play 9 holes with PRC mei mei :D

Well, who knows.
According to what I heard from the 2 caddies, they all stay in Kulai city.
There's this Orchard Hotel there but dun expect porche settings hor.
For all you know, if you get lucky, you can play the afternoon game, hook on & they might just spend the nite with you....
If you do try, remember to FR ok.

[aczeta76]

Giving some thoughts to matters again since now I thinking of going ZH to see her again.

Maybe true love may be elusive OR it may only happen to 1 in 100000 bros here but I still think that "feelings" exists between us and them so long as we treat them as equals.

I have not been cheonging long (Not very long at least) and am not in the KTV scene but so far, some of the WL whom I have connected on a deeper level with have made me believe that they do have feelings and are not all out for our $$.

Li Wei is exception now as I dun know where to put her.. afterall, I am still not very close to her but we are getting closer..:p

Thus far, I have them in 4 category.

1. Fuck and Forget Category.
Too many to list.. mostly I do not RTF or juz RTF for once coz of lust.

2. Friends (after bonk)

People like Xiao Lu (who bothers to advise me on my little GF), Shan Shan, Le Le who knows I dun juz go to them for sex so it is slightly different. We keep in touch but are not as close.

Only regret here is Xiao Na who decided not to ctc me after she went back even though we were extremely close.(But I respect that)

3. Good friends

This category is even closer to me as I know more of their life, their real name and they bother to keep in touch with me even after going back to PRC.

So far, only Xiao Ping and another of my Long term WL (who I never write FR on) belong in this cat. To this 2, money is secondary when we meet.

4. In Love

Only 1 and 1/2 in this category. One is my PRC GF whom I have absolutely no idea why I like or love her so much.

The other is Wu Li b'coz of her resemblance to my 1st GF.

So far, the only W whom I have even thought about ON with is my PRC GF and Wu Li.

I dun know about other bros but this is how I rate things for myself. Even when deep down in our heart, there is this little bit of sanity trying to remind us that a decent life and future together with them is a very remote possibility but u still hope for otherwise.

Looking at the other thread by Azzarro, I thank myself that at least I am not in half the state that he is in as he is really in SHIT and yet refuses to see it.

Perhaps, one day I will learn to steel my heart like the senior cheongsters here and not be so lovey dovey when it comes to relationships that start off with comm sex.

Bros who jio me for kopi, I keep a low profile. Never drive to GL (exception was for Wu Li and my GF) so sorry when I dun accept your invites. Again, exception would be for Wu Li when she is back since you guys are her friends.

A bit sentimental after the hour long talk with GF so paisey paisey for being lo-so... looking forward to meeting my sweet Li Wei tomorrow to blow my troubles away.

[shanshen]

Giving some thoughts to matters again since now I thinking of going ZH to see her again.

Maybe true love may be elusive OR it may only happen to 1 in 100000 bros here but I still think that "feelings" exists between us and them so long as we treat them as equals.

I have not been cheonging long (Not very long at least) and am not in the KTV scene but so far, some of the WL whom I have connected on a deeper level with have made me believe that they do have feelings and are not all out for our $$.

Li Wei is exception now as I dun know where to put her.. afterall, I am still not very close to her but we are getting closer..:p

Thus far, I have them in 4 category.

1. Fuck and Forget Category.
Too many to list.. mostly I do not RTF or juz RTF for once coz of lust.

2. Friends (after bonk)

People like Xiao Lu (who bothers to advise me on my little GF), Shan Shan, Le Le who knows I dun juz go to them for sex so it is slightly different. We keep in touch but are not as close.

Only regret here is Xiao Na who decided not to ctc me after she went back even though we were extremely close.(But I respect that)

3. Good friends

This category is even closer to me as I know more of their life, their real name and they bother to keep in touch with me even after going back to PRC.

So far, only Xiao Ping and another of my Long term WL (who I never write FR on) belong in this cat. To this 2, money is secondary when we meet.

4. In Love

Only 1 and 1/2 in this category. One is my PRC GF whom I have absolutely no idea why I like or love her so much.

The other is Wu Li b'coz of her resemblance to my 1st GF.

So far, the only W whom I have even thought about ON with is my PRC GF and Wu Li.

I dun know about other bros but this is how I rate things for myself. Even when deep down in our heart, there is this little bit of sanity trying to remind us that a decent life and future together with them is a very remote possibility but u still hope for otherwise.

Looking at the other thread by Azzarro, I thank myself that at least I am not in half the state that he is in as he is really in SHIT and yet refuses to see it.

Perhaps, one day I will learn to steel my heart like the senior cheongsters here and not be so lovey dovey when it comes to relationships that start off with comm sex.

Bros who jio me for kopi, I keep a low profile. Never drive to GL (exception was for Wu Li and my GF) so sorry when I dun accept your invites. Again, exception would be for Wu Li when she is back since you guys are her friends.

A bit sentimental after the hour long talk with GF so paisey paisey for being lo-so... looking forward to meeting my sweet Li Wei tomorrow to blow my troubles away.

well done bro, looks like u r in control of yr emotion. keep u up. hve rtn your favor..

[Killforsex]

Hi brothers I am new to this forum, but your question is really uncalled for. Normally I just read, you really serious or joking

[Killforsex]

Hi brothers I am new to this forum, but your question is really uncalled for. Normally I just read, you really serious or joking

[porscheclub]

A bit sentimental after the hour long talk with GF so paisey paisey for being lo-so... looking forward to meeting my sweet Li Wei tomorrow to blow my troubles away.

Wa, power la bro. U got many GFs :p

To the other guy:

Actually all this $ thing invloved.... if u really trust her & love her that much. It's a no brainer thing, even local gals can cheat us $. Just that when you send the $, take it as a gift. It's a 1 way ticket & don't expect returns. But when the story sounds fishy, bail out.

Here's a story on one of my long time old pal. He's a decent senior civil servant & about to marry his colleague, a local gal who was 10yrs younger. They went through all the customaries & few days before the dinner. He found out that she was screwing around! On the night of the dinner, we were all dressed up & he called off the dinner.

Can you guys imagine how much $ he lost & how hurt it was? He disappeared for a few months to lick his wound & is happily remarried today.

[BlurWolfe]

What happen if a WL trying KC trap ask to buy a real LV?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

What happen if a WL trying KC trap ask to buy a real LV?

This isn't called KC trap anymore...this is called transformation to carrot head.
Well, if you really wanna buy her the bag...by all means but do this too.....

I buy you this LV bag cos me luvs u....u luvs me???????
99.99% answer will be yes.....
Then tell her to buy you something in the store at the same time....price close to what u gonna spend, then see the reaction...sure tio beh pio wan.....

Once i did this to a chick after bedding her once knowing her only 2 days....no money other than the basic room tips involved.
Dragged me to Gucci after dinner...smell something coming up liao but played along calmly.......
She said, LAO GONG, that belt belly nice, buy for me if you really love me.....cant really remember the price but more than 1k.......
So i took the belt and took another mens belt....she asked...lao gong, you buying one for yourself too.........
No darling I replied, I buy this belt for you, very meaningful rite, you buy 1 for me also, i will show it off proudly.........her face as bright as the sun suddenly became night & she walked out of the shop............bwahahaha old tricks!

[jon2000sg]

I admired the PRC girls most because they not only just come to S'pore but also made the S'pore & Msia girls in this island - no place to stand :D

sad but true

[BlurWolfe]

Good trick bro.

I am sure no carrot head, and nowadays they really damned daring to ask.

Firstly I am always PAP meaning Pay and Play, never try get FOC.
This lady 2nd time evening ask go Orchard eat dinner, I said no as I went there dinner often with gfs, I think may be used the opportunity to drag into LV shop. Now she just demands a LV bag v cheap..

This isn't called KC trap anymore...this is called transformation to carrot head.

Once i did this to a chick after bedding her once knowing her only 2 days....no money other than the basic room tips involved.

[BlurWolfe]

Bro aczeta76 I will sure follow your advice and meet those FL that you mentioned...:p

[aczeta76]

Bro aczeta76 I will sure follow your advice and meet those FL that you mentioned...:p

Bros, most of them not in SG liao lah

[BlurWolfe]

Bro still got Xiao Lu, appt fixed liao on tuesday, you can ask her...:p

Bros, most of them not in SG liao lah

[JediSkull]

Latest update folks.
Went for golf yest at the Legends in Kulai, JB and got a shock of my life.
They have 17PRC caddies from ChongQing, Sichuan.
All SYT 19yrs old avg.
Was told they dun leave their hostel at nite, not allowed to blah blah but some were really tempting.
Well, here we go, they've conquered a 5star golf course across the border liao..hahaha

omg.... tempted to play golf liao....... :p;)

[porscheclub]

Once i did this to a chick after bedding her once knowing her only 2 days....no money other than the basic room tips involved.
Dragged me to Gucci after dinner...smell something coming up liao but played along calmly.......
She said, LAO GONG, that belt belly nice, buy for me if you really love me.....cant really remember the price but more than 1k.......
So i took the belt and took another mens belt....she asked...lao gong, you buying one for yourself too.........
No darling I replied, I buy this belt for you, very meaningful rite, you buy 1 for me also, i will show it off proudly.........her face as bright as the sun suddenly became night & she walked out of the shop............bwahahaha old tricks!

Good move bro! :D

But really, after knowing a few more PRC gals & meeting them @ home ground. I realised that many of them are really spendthrift. I was there for a week & met a few that worked in nightclubs here. When I'm there, I see their true self, dine with them, go to discos etc. everything except sleeping with them. They are my friends.

They can bring home RMB200,000=S$40,000 & spend every single dime within 2/3 months. Mind you, their general living standards are much lower than us so they simply spend like a queen, going to expensive restaurants, shopping etc. & when the $'s dried up.... back to work as a gal or try to hook a rich boyfriend to finance their lifestyle.

One or two are smarter. They bought an apartment to collect rent. One went into business selling cosmetics & has 3 shops.

A few of these are damn pretty & easily surpasses our "7 princesses". I know one that's being kept by a tycoon here. She gets a 2K sqft condo in Balmoral area, paid S$20K a month & another S$20K to spend on whatever she fancies...& best of all, the guy doesn't even bed her more than once a week!! Btw, she's 1.82m :eek:

[BlurWolfe]

Wow, nowadays they getting taller all looks like Yan Ming, and I think the guy who bao her cant be too short right?

Btw, she's 1.82m :eek:

[BlurWolfe]

Additional news: I bought the LV, not too ex, brought her dinner as well, had lousy session afterwards, I still PAP reminding my own position...:mad:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Yup bro porcheclub, the wiser ones are like a grain of sand on the beach only....look at it from the logical standpoint....easy money come...easy money go....
Like I always suan them, once you go back, rice bin empty liao u will come back....where else can you get this amount of $$$ in such a short time..........



And to bro wolf who bot the LV and had a bad session.....u did a grave mistake.....remember at all times that as long as money is involved be it cash or requested...in this case both, you must make her WORK for it....dun be too eager to please..........make her earn her dues before buying.......

[DO_YOU_BJ]

A few of these are damn pretty & easily surpasses our "7 princesses". I know one that's being kept by a tycoon here. She gets a 2K sqft condo in Balmoral area, paid S$20K a month & another S$20K to spend on whatever she fancies...& best of all, the guy doesn't even bed her more than once a week!! Btw, she's 1.82m :eek:

Oh you know him too? hmmmmm small world
Well, she is unique in her own way n carries herself very well......no man will feel embarrassed if she was theirs....why bed so little in a week......cos she aint the only one bro hehehehehe

[porscheclub]

Yup bro porcheclub, the wiser ones are like a grain of sand on the beach only....look at it from the logical standpoint....easy money come...easy money go....
Like I always suan them, once you go back, rice bin empty liao u will come back....where else can you get this amount of $$$ in such a short time..........

Yep very rare indeed. Anyway there's no way they can even make RMB5000 a month doing a normal job so they'll rather laze around & wait for a chance to come back again.


Oh you know him too? hmmmmm small world Well, actually I don't know him but I know her through my gal ;) & she bought us dinner too.

[pop00eye]

U mean u bought her LV bag liao still pay her after sex?
gee...
Is she so worth it?
U want her to be ur long term gf?

Additional news: I bought the LV, not too ex, brought her dinner as well, had lousy session afterwards, I still PAP reminding my own position...:mad:

[BlurWolfe]

Bro BJ as you said, after bought the LV no more sign of the gal, must sms few times then responses. Anyway I was fed up and want to call AV and come the usual response, have been busy with customer, wahhh i not customer, even I PAP, still a carrot head but wait for my revenge.....:p




And to bro wolf who bot the LV and had a bad session.....u did a grave mistake.....remember at all times that as long as money is involved be it cash or requested...in this case both, you must make her WORK for it....dun be too eager to please..........make her earn her dues before buying.......

[BlurWolfe]

Yes tat wat I did, and see the response later. good to know how carrot head revenge...:p

U mean u bought her LV bag liao still pay her after sex?
gee...
Is she so worth it?
U want her to be ur long term gf?

[BlurWolfe]

Actually its more to test water, but she failed in flying colors. I certainly wont mind AV get her number and send her back. anyway it is easier to test now then after fall into KC trap...:p


U want her to be ur long term gf?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Actually its more to test water, but she failed in flying colors. I certainly wont mind AV get her number and send her back. anyway it is easier to test now then after fall into KC trap...:p

Bro, i can see from your angle.
You're pissed, feel cheated and upset.....but an honest advise....you were warned but you chose to go with it......hey she never forced you or anything ya...be a man bro...you had a choice and made a decision......face it, learn from it and be a wiser man from now on....
Next round, when another comes along, you know how to play liao.....
Steady bro...steady......

[kiko]

This few days, i just test my china gal, i told her i be buying a present for her, she ask me what is it, i say is LV bag. But the thing is a false one, at 30 dollars. Then i told her is a false bag , will she accept my gift to her. She say is ok... i be passing the bag to her next week. Next thing i want to check is after i pass her the LV bag, will she ignore my sms and call.

[BlurWolfe]

Bro, thanks for your advice.

My LV bag is just to see any improvement on service level, as service standard to me seems drop considerably, ignore my request/sms booking for few days, then if my frens sms for booking will receive reply nearly immediately.

So after buying the LV bag that she requested, service still the same, therefore I concluded that she failed her service with flying colour.


You're pissed, feel cheated and upset.....

[BlurWolfe]

Bro kiko, they will accept anything, until they find a bigger fish, then they will ignore the smaller fish and start squeezing the big fish...:eek:

Next thing i want to check is after i pass her the LV bag, will she ignore my sms and call.

[Jacques Rougeau]

When PRC WLs or former WLs are concerned there is no such thing as a whirlwind romance. So be warned. They will just take you for a meal ticket. :mad:

[aczeta76]

Bro kiko, they will accept anything, until they find a bigger fish, then they will ignore the smaller fish and start squeezing the big fish...:eek:

correction... most PRCs will enjoy many fishes in both hands and milk them at the same time... allotment of time will depend on the size of stash.

But note tt it is MOST PRC..:p

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks bro for correction, looks like my stash not as big as the others..:p


allotment of time will depend on the size of stash.

[wodemama]

most PRCs will enjoy many fishes in both hands and milk them at the same time... allotment of time will depend on the size of stash.

But note tt it is MOST PRC..:p

I agree with you on this, even my mother told me PRCs have eyes for $$$ only, and they dun mind breaking up other ppl's family just for it. Money is everything to them. Yes i noe money is important but the way in which they try to get their hands on money even with the most unscrupulous method.

[BlurWolfe]

Before buy the LV, she will bethe galfriend
When collect the LV, she is the galfriend
1 week after the LV, we are normal friend...:o

[wodemama]

Before buy the LV, she will bethe galfriend
When collect the LV, she is the galfriend
1 week after the LV, we are normal friend...:o

LOL. this got me laughing hard. yea but i think this can be applied to most girls too. Want stuffs den super good, get already den find new carrot head liao:mad:

[BlurWolfe]

Then I get scolding when I asking her how come like that, and I become a bBIG CARROT HEAD for not even a free session, I also want to get it back and burn it in front of her.

LOL. this got me laughing hard. yea but i think this can be applied to most girls too.

[Darkstorm]

Let mi honest,not to talk abt PRC WL la... i think SG Gals also wouldn't wan to be with u when u r penniless la.... of cos not 100% but i would say at least 80%...



If you are poor, generally speaking, percentage of Singapore girls (not counting teenagers) who wouldn't want to be with you is at least 99.9 %

[longwinter]

Then I get scolding when I asking her how come like that, and I become a bBIG CARROT HEAD for not even a free session, I also want to get it back and burn it in front of her.

actually no pt confronting or go ask her when u had the results le.

her actions is the answer to u liao.

for me, when l face such scenarios, l will understand and jus walk away fro it, wont go back patronise her or anything to do wif her. Actually dun understand why sum ladies turn their backs on u out of the sudden, kind of stupid also. They dun realise that by doing till such an extent , they are oso on a losing side, they jus losing their source of income.

for us guys, actually no big deal, since this gal treat me so shabbily and no good, l can still find other girls in the big forest. no harm to me. :o

[BlurWolfe]

She think we Singapore guys are all carrot head, dont dare to say anything.
Of cos bro if you calculate each day they can do 6, a week potential 42 carrot head, in a month over 100. Once chop a carrot no use already, better find another.

I think must make appt with AV.

actually no pt confronting or go ask her when u had the results le.

her actions is the answer to u liao.

[longwinter]

She think we Singapore guys are all carrot head, dont dare to say anything.
Of cos bro if you calculate each day they can do 6, a week potential 42 carrot head, in a month over 100. Once chop a carrot no use already, better find another.

I think must make appt with AV.

haha, cool down bro, l can understand ur feelings and situation.

Actually dun noe wad is their thinking la, l mean more friends/ allies is better than having any foes mah, who noes this guy may be poor for this moment, but after a few yrs or in future strike it big or rich? Life is very unpredictable de lo.

anyway one thing to mention, singapore got so many carrot for these mm to chop de mehs? :D

[BlurWolfe]

To me I dont really mind about the money spent, but must spend worth the effort.
We pay to enjoy and also pay some more to have better service, but now pay already and service become worse...:mad:

I heard her room mates are all conster, everyone con people with LV bags, that why she must have, and today one of her sis also got a new LV and a laptop..

singapore got so many carrot for these mm to chop de mehs? :D

[kiko]

Today , i am very sad, i sms my china gal , ask her to confirm , the timing wanted to pick her up , we have a stroll on the beach, and then have a dinner. But she nvr reply me sms, i sms her last night and today, and she fail to answer my call and sms.. bros, what does it mean now.. And i had bought a LV bag intend to give her as birthday present. now she nvr reply my sms and answer my call... now how? 2 weeks ago , i told her if she dont like me, its okk, i give away to others, then she faster sms me, say she like me... i feel that she really like me , or like e LV bag.. now i am very sad!

[BlurWolfe]

Bro, I think those genuine WL that are honest will be happy that we bros RTF them a few times, wont be like those dishonest one ask for gifts from first few meeting, or keep sms you saying 'love u', 'like u' etc etc.

Anyway there wont be future as well, imagine I met my WL today and I got a room next to hers, heard her shouting so loud 'song ah, song ah' whole corridor also can hear clearly...:eek:

2 weeks ago , i told her if she dont like me, its okk, i give away to others, then she faster sms me, say she like me... i feel that she really like me , or like e LV bag.. now i am very sad!

[longwinter]

To me I dont really mind about the money spent, but must spend worth the effort.
We pay to enjoy and also pay some more to have better service, but now pay already and service become worse...:mad:

I heard her room mates are all conster, everyone con people with LV bags, that why she must have, and today one of her sis also got a new LV and a laptop..

ya l agreed, spending sum money isnt really anything, not much of a problem, as long as we are happy and we feel worth it. $$$ mah, no matter wad, can still be earn back de.

wahhh, so jialat ah. No wonder, all of them are roommates la, Birds of the same feathers flocking together. Such wl, already earning so much liao, if they wanna buy branded goods, at least use their own $$$ mah. By resorting to ways of conning bros, is a bit overbroad. Taking advantage of the bros, who had a feel for them, hope they hav their karma.

anyway jus my own feel la, if a WL request u to buy this and that for her, especially branded goods, l tink can throw liao la. If a gal really like u or treat u as her friend, she wont try to take advantage of u de, instead she will wan u to save up ur $$$.

In the past, l noe tis working gal. went out wif her, but she didnt requested me to get her anything. Wadever she wan, she used her own $$$ to buy. No hinting or trying to pester me to buy things for her. All l contribute was jus food and drinks, and small little stuffs. That is all. And she is happy liao, even thank me for the day.

[longwinter]

Bro, I think those genuine WL that are honest will be happy that we bros RTF them a few times, wont be like those dishonest one ask for gifts from first few meeting, or keep sms you saying 'love u', 'like u' etc etc.

Anyway there wont be future as well, imagine I met my WL today and I got a room next to hers, heard her shouting so loud 'song ah, song ah' whole corridor also can hear clearly...:eek:

Asking for gifts or smsing u, saying love u, like u...all is fake de la. If u really go tink la, where got ppl jus noe u, will start to request for gifts la, or saying such mushy words.

summore normally, when these girls request for gifts, mouth very big oso, wan wad? branded goods, branded stuffs.

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks bro longwinter for your encouragement and points.

From my experience, I had met quite a few, and also RTF a few, most they will be happy for the support and even buy drinks during meeting. I had also got some wanted to buy dinner but I always declined, no need get involved too much.

This one is wonderful, lion big mouth, ask for this and that after initial sms and today meeting also called and buy food for her, thats why I was abit early and get a room next to her and heard the wonderful voice, professional action, I think better than porn actress in vcd.

[longwinter]

Thanks bro longwinter for your encouragement and points.

From my experience, I had met quite a few, and also RTF a few, most they will be happy for the support and even buy drinks during meeting. I had also got some wanted to buy dinner but I always declined, no need get involved too much.

This one is wonderful, lion big mouth, ask for this and that after initial sms and today meeting also called and buy food for her, thats why I was abit early and get a room next to her and heard the wonderful voice, professional action, I think better than porn actress in vcd.

u are welcome, we are here for wad, of cos to share and exchange abt our views, pointers and opinions mah. :D

wah bro, why u still go back to her. since she is so bad, jus drop her. If she want to play till like tis, the best to get back to her is Not to patronise her, let her lost sum source of income. Let her noe she lost a customer becos of her doings. :mad:

[BlurWolfe]

Bro, I didnt know its so bad within just a week in possession of LV.

Of cos I wont throw $$$ into drain, there are so many FL that much prettier and better relationship with customers.

She very smart one, of cos not only advertise in here, but get frens to help her intro, advertise in some websites, see our Samster bad word also no problem, $$$ still keep flowing in.


the best to get back to her is Not to patronise her, let her lost sum source of income. Let her noe she lost a customer becos of her doings. :mad:

[longwinter]

Bro, I didnt know its so bad within just a week in possession of LV.

Of cos I wont throw $$$ into drain, there are so many FL that much prettier and better relationship with customers.

She very smart one, of cos not only advertise in here, but get frens to help her intro, advertise in some websites, see our Samster bad word also no problem, $$$ still keep flowing in.

That is right, bro!

Since she treat u in this manner, show her u steady. Even if see her outside again, dun even look at her or acknowledge her.

haha if she still persist in her ways, we shall see how long she can survive lor...if her character is like tat, always tinking of conning ppl, wan to take advantage and giv such attitude. u tink other customers wont discover and noe mehs? The gals might be smart, but alot of bros here oso quite smart de wor. ;)

[BlurWolfe]

I think they all esp her went through acting school training already, Samster dont know who yet, but she always pretend as with some no car then she will ask them take mrt, dont take taxi too ex, if went out for food, she will choose the cheapest one in front of them...:confused:

So if i say she is a conster, many wont think so too, unless go through the same motion, suddenly a lot of attentions, sms, all the mushy things, the she drop the BOMB.

Also I heard a lot of customers are from friends intro and from other place, they may not aware of these tricks, as they may not be one of us.


The gals might be smart, but alot of bros here oso quite smart de wor. ;)

[Prince7]

That is right, bro!

Since she treat u in this manner, show her u steady. Even if see her outside again, dun even look at her or acknowledge her.

haha if she still persist in her ways, we shall see how long she can survive lor...if her character is like tat, always tinking of conning ppl, wan to take advantage and giv such attitude. u tink other customers wont discover and noe mehs? The gals might be smart, but alot of bros here oso quite smart de wor. ;)

WELL SAID bRO longwinter :D
Very good advice ;)

[longwinter]

I think they all esp her went through acting school training already, Samster dont know who yet, but she always pretend as with some no car then she will ask them take mrt, dont take taxi too ex, if went out for food, she will choose the cheapest one in front of them...:confused:

So if i say she is a conster, many wont think so too, unless go through the same motion, suddenly a lot of attentions, sms, all the mushy things, the she drop the BOMB.

Also I heard a lot of customers are from friends intro and from other place, they may not aware of these tricks, as they may not be one of us.

Ya, she can act all she want, but the moment she wants a branded good fro u, ah ha, captured liao.

The moment she talks abt wantin u to buy a gift for her, den that is kind of problem le. Ya, she sure can act in front of u, choose the cheapest transport, choosing the cheapest food, but wanting u to buy such an expensive gift for her, doesnt it kind of defeats the purpose of trying to help u save.

Not say we are stingy abt giving gifts to them, but what kind of thing they wan? if the thing is jus several dollars, l of cos dun mind. But the things they wan sumtime is a few hundred or a few thousand kind of stuff which is ridiculous.

regarding abt the massive attention, sms and all the mushy things, l noe sumtime we can be confused by such things. But do open ur eyes and use a bit of the brain. l too admit sumtime l fall into such traps.

But bro, u shld cheer up now, since u see the true colors, l tink it is better and easier to move on as well. :o

[BlurWolfe]

Bro longwinter,

Thanks for yoru help, I really like to expose this con-artiste, maybe some other bros got it but keep quiet for now.

Anyway by my posting they should know who who by now..



But bro, u shld cheer up now, since u see the true colors, l tink it is better and easier to move on as well. :o

[BlurWolfe]

Bro longwinter,

Thanks for yoru help, I really like to expose this con-artiste, maybe some other bros got it but keep quiet for now.

Anyway by my posting they should know who who by now..



But bro, u shld cheer up now, since u see the true colors, l tink it is better and easier to move on as well. :o

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks Bros have up me,
I am just any ordinary working guy, and she asked being gf must 'FUCK' in front of my wife and kids to show them, I think thats its too excess..:eek:

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks a lot of bros encouragement, I have posted to the thread responsible for the injuries, pls take heart and be careful the foxy can strike anytime and anyplace. Once she get comfy with you and also will receive a lots of sms, but after spending, even you try calling her also no time to talk..:eek:

[xyz1001]

anyway one thing to mention, singapore got so many carrot for these mm to chop de mehs? :D

I think most carrots dun come sammyboy to gain knowledge. Luckily i come...phew... haha ;)

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks a lot of bros support and pm me a lot of wonderful solutions.

Even though I may not be able to burn the thing in front of her, but I will definitely not taking her call from now on, which always involved cursing me, my family and my 18 generation ancestors...:mad:

[BlurWolfe]

One more thing, she threatens to fix me up when I am in Beijing, fine, I will be meeting senior officials of PLA 301 Hospital, I will see who fix who at that time.

[Heart Break Kid]

Thru of these years of cheonging ..mi learn to smarter & wiser. Never let those WL chop carrot heads out of us. Never buy branded gifts like handphones, laptop & watches for them because its just like throwing money into the sea.

I only paid them higher than market rates for their good services rendered & if they willingly to spend more time with mi (not rushing type) and RTF.

Nowaday PRC WL asked mi to buy these buy that (branded stuffs) for her..
I always tell her I give more money for you to remit into your bank accounts so that when you return to China ..she is more secured.

Then I just let her other customers-bf be carrot heads..buy all those branded stuffs for her :D

Bros.. just remember in general WL are not good people. I had seen a lot black heart China KTV girls.. want money yet play out a lot of our local guys.

[Heart Break Kid]

How come my posting cannot appear here :confused:

[aczeta76]

Thanks Bros have up me,
I am just any ordinary working guy, and she asked being gf must 'FUCK' in front of my wife and kids to show them, I think thats its too excess..:eek:

aiyoh... why your girl like tat... anyway, u are married so I guess she muz feel that you are juz playing the scene so chop more b4 u are sick of her.

Carrot heads or not, guess everyday in SG and around, there are plenty of bros who are spending $10K, $20K or even more in KTVS and pubs.

If u can afford it, you wun feel pain. Most bros will not mind the monkey, juz the pride for being played for the fool... damn malu so cannot take it.

Point for me remains, they are still people so unless your "opponent" is very seasoned and have a heart of steel, being frank and true will win reciprocal treatment.

Juz be true to yourself and "dare to play, dare to lose"

[aczeta76]

How come my posting cannot appear here :confused:

I was wondering too... cannot see it till I posted something... system glitch perhaps...

[BlurWolfe]

Definitely Bro, money not important but just giving to this kind of ppl, I may as well give to someone else, like your XL.

I would like to rephrase that "dare to play, dare to WIN"


If u can afford it, you wun feel pain. Most bros will not mind the monkey, juz the pride for being played for the fool... damn malu so cannot take it.


Juz be true to yourself and "dare to play, dare to lose"

[Heart Break Kid]

dare to play ..prepare to lose :D

[BlurWolfe]

OK OK dare to play, willing to surrender can?:p

dare to play ..prepare to lose :D

[Heart Break Kid]

OK OK dare to play, willing to surrender can?:p

Can :D we may win or we may lose nothing is 100% guarantee.

But I alway prepare a budget to lose because I view all these as sunk cost :cool:

[BlurWolfe]

Bro how much is the budget, can share? :D



But I alway prepare a budget to lose because I view all these as sunk cost :cool:

[Heart Break Kid]

Bro how much is the budget, can share? :D

Secret ..if you pm mi ;) I will share with you :p

[ParaParaSakura]

Thru of these years of cheonging ..mi learn to smarter & wiser. Never let those WL chop carrot heads out of us. Never buy branded gifts like handphones, laptop & watches for them because its just like throwing money into the sea.

I only paid them higher than market rates for their good services rendered & if they willingly to spend more time with mi (not rushing type) and RTF.



RIGHT one! bro ,Agree with it , I told them I love all WL and FL ever bonk,not only you ,i only afford to pay for dinner like china steamboat ,about $15 dollars and cant RTF her always ,Because too many FL and WL i love :p

I always share my love to them :p

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks bro, if secret better not for me to know, but if you have new fresh lobang let me know..:)

Secret ..if you pm mi ;) I will share with you :p

[wodemama]

Bro BJ as you said, after bought the LV no more sign of the gal, must sms few times then responses. Anyway I was fed up and want to call AV and come the usual response, have been busy with customer, wahhh i not customer, even I PAP, still a carrot head but wait for my revenge.....:p

Bro what does the PAP here means?

and dun be too eager to please girls, They must show u that they deserve the gift. after 1 lv bag den attitude change. must teach them some lesson.

[BlurWolfe]

PAP = Pay And Play

How to teach her lesson huh? she damn fierce one if she didnt get her own way, now already calling and cursing me, my family and ancestors.

Bro what does the PAP here means?

and dun be too eager to please girls, They must show u that they deserve the gift. after 1 lv bag den attitude change. must teach them some lesson.

[wodemama]

One more thing, she threatens to fix me up when I am in Beijing, fine, I will be meeting senior officials of PLA 301 Hospital, I will see who fix who at that time.

Wow, chop you liao still dare to threaten you? Seriously she needs to be taught a lessson. dun pang chance her le. just let her learn it the hard way:mad:

[wodemama]

PAP = Pay And Play

How to teach her lesson huh? she damn fierce one if she didnt get her own way, now already calling and cursing me, my family and ancestors.

bro you reply quick! nice one.
like you said, maybe giv her number to the av. can save the other bros who are unaware of SbF and still kenna chop day by day.

This kind of ppl, no nid scold her back. must punish!

[BlurWolfe]

Any Bros got AV hotline number? Thanks.:)

[wodemama]

Any Bros got AV hotline number? Thanks.:)

call 999 den from there transfer call. :p

[wodemama]

Today , i am very sad, i sms my china gal , ask her to confirm , the timing wanted to pick her up , we have a stroll on the beach, and then have a dinner. But she nvr reply me sms, i sms her last night and today, and she fail to answer my call and sms.. bros, what does it mean now.. And i had bought a LV bag intend to give her as birthday present. now she nvr reply my sms and answer my call... now how? 2 weeks ago , i told her if she dont like me, its okk, i give away to others, then she faster sms me, say she like me... i feel that she really like me , or like e LV bag.. now i am very sad!

typical prc. got GOODIES den reply instantly, bo goodies take own sweet time.

[BlurWolfe]

thanks Bro.

I remembered she said something about SG guys are a disgrace, with gf/wife still go out chiong, think in PRC the guys very good hor..:eek:

call 999 den from there transfer call. :p

[wodemama]

thanks Bro.

I remembered she said something about SG guys are a disgrace, with gf/wife still go out chiong, think in PRC the guys very good hor..:eek:

Ye lor if we disgrace den why would she wanna get the stuffs that was paid with our money? speak without thinking. 说话不经大脑！

[BlurWolfe]

Also said earn/cheated so much $$$ go back China must get a few Ducks to enjoy...:o

Ye lor if we disgrace den why would she wanna get the stuffs that was paid with our money? speak without thinking. 说话不经大脑！

[wodemama]

Also said earn/cheated so much $$$ go back China must get a few Ducks to enjoy...:o

lol. what goes ard comes ard. lata she herself tio tok. Rofl

[longwinter]

Also said earn/cheated so much $$$ go back China must get a few Ducks to enjoy...:o

she such a evil person har? no wonder, u never hesitate the thought of Reporting her to AV.

l tink it is time to show her sum lesson and show her who is the boss? :rolleyes:

In singapore kana screwed still not enuf, go hm still wan to find duck to screw her, crazy sia. :eek:

tell her no nid find duck, sbf all brothers can all take up the challenge to give her a good fucking

[BlurWolfe]

She told me and other bros before, that this you can check previous posts, SG guys generally dicks are small and useless, mostly 5-10 mins job done unlike China guys they can go on and on...and so she can take in alot of guys a day.

lol. what goes ard comes ard. lata she herself tio tok. Rofl

[BlurWolfe]

SG guys no use lor, cant even get her high....:mad:

sbf all brothers can all take up the challenge to give her a good fucking

[wodemama]

SG guys no use lor, cant even get her high....:mad:

well she can get high from thoese china guys all she wans. and we singaporeans have the same ancestors as them =). and generally the ASIANS are indeed smaller when compared to the whites and blacks. BUt den there are always exceptions. Do not let her words hurt u!

[BlurWolfe]

To Bros, the purpose of my post is to expose this lady, she is going back soon and will be back becos the $$$ so easy here. She may use another name or even new TS, but the operation still the same.

She has adverts outside, and she charges those nice gentleman $200 compare to $80 in SBF, therefore they are always preferred customers, SBF bros only small shrimps, when no fish ard then take.

[BlurWolfe]

No bro, her point is the $$$ here so easy to earn, just let teh guy in few mins finished liao...:eek:



Do not let her words hurt u!

[BlurWolfe]

I called her yesterday asked to get the bag and burn it, she told me come right now, I said not free, may be today, she said then forget it..:mad:

[wodemama]

No bro, her point is the $$$ here so easy to earn, just let teh guy in few mins finished liao...:eek:

oops , i mis-understood it. ok i get it now. but den not every 1 is weak.

[wodemama]

I called her yesterday asked to get the bag and burn it, she told me come right now, I said not free, may be today, she said then forget it..:mad:

so whats your plan now bro?

[BlurWolfe]

I dont dare to call and get all the curses on the phone, may be try to dial 999 and direct to AV.

so whats your plan now bro?

[wodemama]

Ic, yup call the av would be the best way.

hmm incase if she comes back, how about posting her pic here so that bros here will know who she is?

[BlurWolfe]

No pics bro, as I said most guys she havnt targeted will be quite SOP and surprisingly good, only those kana her sweet talk have to tolerate or else risk becoming one not a gentleman, a 'small man' or 'small gas' in chinese.


hmm incase if she comes back, how about posting her pic here so that bros here will know who she is?

[BlurWolfe]

Since until now there is no apologise from TS and Lady involved, I will try to make a trip to cantonment complex and be the early bird, catch her when she come out of appt.

[BlurWolfe]

Since until now there is no apologise from TS and Lady involved, I will try to make a trip to cantonment complex and be the early bird, catch her when she come out of appt.

[BlurWolfe]

She boasts she has lots bag in hand to make any men become a puppy, even the current TS will be her puppy too, so bro be warn she can be anything just to make you become a puppy and response to her wish..:eek:

[BlurWolfe]

I tried call when can I burned the thing, but no response on Hp, think she change her Hp no. liao... :eek:

Another Samster said her pic is available online on one of yahoo group, so any bro who know this conster pls upload the pic and let ppl see

[wodemama]

Since until now there is no apologise from TS and Lady involved, I will try to make a trip to cantonment complex and be the early bird, catch her when she come out of appt.

TS = thread starter?

[BlurWolfe]

Yes bro...:) and TS got a lot of benefits.

Thanks a lot of bros support, and I am just expose the one that even when we PAP still want to squeeze our $$$ some more, without additional benefits in return.
As economy going downturn, we have to use our $$$ wisely, not to spend on those that not honest in their services.

I know a lot of bros will keep quiet, but I prefer to expose and let others know.

Of cos if there are really good one, then I will like to know also.

TS = thread starter?

[geylangredlight]

I dont dare to call and get all the curses on the phone, may be try to dial 999 and direct to AV.

ya agree lol

[kam pei]

Haha, but dont forget phone call can be traced ... so wear cap and alll

[aczeta76]

Since until now there is no apologise from TS and Lady involved, I will try to make a trip to cantonment complex and be the early bird, catch her when she come out of appt.

Bro... which lady u talking about...share lah.. later I kena KC by her how... I dun buy LV bags though..

Juz be upfront and share. Maybe TS also blur about who... anyway, TS cannot control the girl lah unless he oso OKT

[BlurWolfe]

Bro the thread I post most is the one..:p

Bro... which lady u talking about...share lah.. later I kena KC by her how... I dun buy LV bags though..

Juz be upfront and share. Maybe TS also blur about who... anyway, TS cannot control the girl lah unless he oso OKT

[wodemama]

Bro the thread I post most is the one..:p

Oh know who is she liao! Bad woman :mad:

[nottimonkey]

I believe in true love................in my dreams :D

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks for the understanding and support, i believe what life will go round and round, what you did to others will get it one day yourself too.

Oh know who is she liao! Bad woman :mad:

[BlurWolfe]

Sorry bros that I have disappointed you all, I couldnt make myself do it to report her to AV, but hope that with my exposure, bros going to meet her wont be so soft and get con by her when she is here.... I really cant do the same as what she did to me, let the karma rule, and whats go round must come round.

Ok so end of story..:)

[BlurWolfe]

Bros let ZZZAPP the TS, as he is her puppy and never very apologise for the bad event.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Sorry bros that I have disappointed you all, I couldnt make myself do it to report her to AV, but hope that with my exposure, bros going to meet her wont be so soft and get con by her when she is here.... I really cant do the same as what she did to me, let the karma rule, and whats go round must come round.

Ok so end of story..:)

Actually, I've been wanting to tell you off your earlier posts abt wanting to go AV and all that.
Remember the KC trap, takes 2 hands to clap...you went into it as a man...well, walk out of it as one.....dun think of revenge and all that.
Also, zapping that TS is also not a very gentleman thing to do....live and let live....since you mention Karma, let nature take its own action on them......
Learn from this bro....as i've mentioned in my other thread, better have experienced it then never......steady steady......at the end of the day, shud u bump into the TS or that woman, your head still high.....that's called power.....and that's call MAN dude :)
Steady~~~~~~~~~~~~

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks bro for your advice, will follow that.

shud u bump into the TS or that woman, your head still high.....that's called power.....and that's call MAN dude :)
Steady~~~~~~~~~~~~

[BlurWolfe]

I am sure that other bros are involved too, as the lady told me repeatedly even dream also dream of laptop and god jewelries.

I wonder should this feature in 'crime watch' too, as those china ppl come and cheat the old people $$$ and jewelries and turn them into apples/oranges.

Also wonder if TS are of the same gang, as the Lady mentioned TS got many special benefits.



Remember the KC trap, takes 2 hands to clap...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I am sure that other bros are involved too, as the lady told me repeatedly even dream also dream of laptop and god jewelries.
Also wonder if TS are of the same gang, as the Lady mentioned TS got many special benefits.

Let me quote you wat my sifu told me the other day.....
It's like staying on the ground floor, they try their best to max what they can on that level, then suddenly, they meet someone who stays on the 5th floor, she jumps ship and off to 5th floor she goes....and so on.........
One fine day, she'll reach her max...highest floor but then, how she got there is immoral, thus karma will take over, she'll fall from there and dun even meet the 1st floor level.....
That's when the major karma takes place, by then, old liao, unwanted and basically, people with such GREED and mentally, all have very very sad endings.....

[xyz1001]

Let me quote you wat my sifu told me the other day.....
It's like staying on the ground floor, they try their best to max what they can on that level, then suddenly, they meet someone who stays on the 5th floor, she jumps ship and off to 5th floor she goes....and so on.........
One fine day, she'll reach her max...highest floor but then, how she got there is immoral, thus karma will take over, she'll fall from there and dun even meet the 1st floor level.....
That's when the major karma takes place, by then, old liao, unwanted and basically, people with such GREED and mentally, all have very very sad endings.....

Well said, your sifu is a wise man.

[BlurWolfe]

Bro DO_YOU_BJ,

Your Sifu is very right, things attained unscrupulously may not last long.

But on the other hand, I also dont not wish that very very sad endings will happen.

Thanks to someone really understand just now, gave me a pat on the back and a real good hug.... I feel very good now.

Let me quote you wat my sifu told me the other day.....

That's when the major karma takes place, by then, old liao, unwanted and basically, people with such GREED and mentally, all have very very sad endings.....

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks for bros who understand and up my points, and also some bros not understand the situation and down mine with guidance and advices how to do my posting.

Really appreciate your supports.

That someone I met, after heard the whole story just said one sentence and really made my day.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro DO_YOU_BJ,

Your Sifu is very right, things attained unscrupulously may not last long.

But on the other hand, I also dont not wish that very very sad endings will happen.

Well, this is the best part.
Sad as it may be to you but it aint your call dude......
Its all fate and predestined...so this is as good as an inevitable outcome....
They are paying not only for this but previous life....
like u said, KARMA!

[BlurWolfe]

Unfortunately, this KARMA strike very fast...:(



Sad as it may be to you but it aint your call dude......
Its all fate and predestined...so this is as good as an inevitable outcome....

like u said, KARMA!

[BlurWolfe]

I am typing with heavy heart, the inevitable has just arrived, I was lost the whole evening, what can I help? There were so much warning, even bros before and even when I was with her last saturday, saw that, and I saw a guy and a gal in unmarked car parked nicely at entrance, when they saw me they pretend to sleep Without Engine on. I and other bros have been telling her that, she is too frequent there

Now I just wondered she has food to eat, clothes to wear, she is always free and easy, she is not suitable for detention.

Lastly anyone knows of gd lawyer or excuse to help her, let me know, she is really a very nice gal, honest to the bone, never take shortcut in service, always make our Samster happy therefore we can set up a fund to help her legal cost, I will contribute 1K instantly, let her be free and to serve our bros.

[BlurWolfe]

Bros pls note if we enjoy her companion, lets help her to get out of this mess.

Your contribution is most welcome, as she never satisfy our bros, anyone one know Subbas? may be he can help her.

[BlurWolfe]

Bro Wodemama,

I am going to fight for her, she cant stay in detention and cant be back in SG forever.

I have a good hug and now I am ready for action...:p

[BlurWolfe]

If she has to spend time in a cell with nothing, as she has not done anything wrong, we must help..:eek:

[BlurWolfe]

I have asked some of the very senior for advice, before going to lawyer, anytime is always a good case to argue in court

[BlurWolfe]

While we have weekend ahead of us, remember the cheerful smile of Amy that greet us so many times, she is alone and being lockup not her fault at all, may be we can help in someway.

[Darkstorm]

I am typing with heavy heart, the inevitable has just arrived, I was lost the whole evening, what can I help? There were so much warning, even bros before and even when I was with her last saturday, saw that, and I saw a guy and a gal in unmarked car parked nicely at entrance, when they saw me they pretend to sleep Without Engine on. I and other bros have been telling her that, she is too frequent there

Now I just wondered she has food to eat, clothes to wear, she is always free and easy, she is not suitable for detention.

Lastly anyone knows of gd lawyer or excuse to help her, let me know, she is really a very nice gal, honest to the bone, never take shortcut in service, always make our Samster happy therefore we can set up a fund to help her legal cost, I will contribute 1K instantly, let her be free and to serve our bros.

S$1,000 might be sufficient if it is not a complex case. If you are serious about helping her, any lawyer should be good enough. Just approach one of the many law firms around. And all the best.

[colins]

Bro BlurWolfe, I've read your postings but to me its getting confusing. Why get so personal with a relationship with a PRC WL? What do you really want?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro BlurWolfe, I've read your postings but to me its getting confusing. Why get so personal with a relationship with a PRC WL? What do you really want?

Bro Colins, how hv u been...been a while...
Well, reading this post is very humorous to me....someone act so sour but still very much in luv...add the pieces together...conclusion....KARMA already caught up liao.....
Fated...all fated......

[colins]

Bro Colins, how hv u been...been a while...
Well, reading this post is very humorous to me....someone act so sour but still very much in luv...add the pieces together...conclusion....KARMA already caught up liao.....
Fated...all fated......

aye bro DYBJ, for some reasons I can't access SBF in China, not in hotels not even in wang ba. But I'm getting to like KL, starbucks coffeebean all got internet. Now back home, found all the treads missing, then found all of them here.

I think the entire story's not posted here, thats why its like all bits n pieces. Saw a lot of your postings too...haha...nice work man.

bro blurwolfe, take it easy man, life is not just that girl. The more you want to do something to her, the more she tie you around her little fingers. The most ironical thing is that, she doesn't even give a damn, not even trying to tie you. If you wake up everyday thinking abt her, bro I think you really got to do something about it.

[walabis]

I thought I just read a drama story. Interesting to know pro and con to have a PRC FLs as kc or gf.

It always nice and sweet at the start but may turn sour and nasty in the end.

It maybe a good experience to have good or bad relationship but at the end of the day is the money which call the shot.

Anyway don't take the relationship too serious and afterall we make share the common language but we may differ in culture and lifestyle.

Just my 3 cents opinion.

:)

[Zikoman]

I thought I just read a drama story.

It maybe a good experience to have good or bad relationship but at the end of the day is the money which call the shot.

Anyway don't take the relationship too serious and afterall we make share the common language but we may differ in culture and lifestyle.

Just my 3 cents opinion.


speaking from the pt of view of an experienced cheongster:eek:...... can share more... :p

[wodemama]

Lets hope everything will be fine =)

[porcupine]

I thought I just read a drama story. Interesting to know pro and con to have a PRC FLs as kc or gf.

It always nice and sweet at the start but may turn sour and nasty in the end.

It maybe a good experience to have good or bad relationship but at the end of the day is the money which call the shot.

Anyway don't take the relationship too serious and afterall we make share the common language but we may differ in culture and lifestyle.

Just my 3 cents opinion.

:)


wah bro wala, u oso here

speaking from the pt of view of an experienced cheongster:eek:...... can share more... :p


ya senior bro wala, pls share more... especially your techniques on KC...

[walabis]

wah bro wala, u oso here

Why you still here ? I thought at this hour you suppose at your firing base eyeing your target :rolleyes:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

aye bro DYBJ, for some reasons I can't access SBF in China, not in hotels not even in wang ba. But I'm getting to like KL, starbucks coffeebean all got internet. Now back home, found all the treads missing, then found all of them here.

I think the entire story's not posted here, thats why its like all bits n pieces. Saw a lot of your postings too...haha...nice work man.

bro blurwolfe, take it easy man, life is not just that girl. The more you want to do something to her, the more she tie you around her little fingers. The most ironical thing is that, she doesn't even give a damn, not even trying to tie you. If you wake up everyday thinking abt her, bro I think you really got to do something about it.
Ya just like youtube hahaha
Very sad to read bros in this kinda situation.
Totally one sided...gal dun give a rats ass abt the guy but the guy still so whole heartedly stand behind her...........
If gal dies, guy will go funeral cry cry and many many months will pass before the guy actually get his sanity back.
BUT.....if guy dies......gal wont even go to the funeral and continue to live her life like nothing happened.....so sad........
Exactly like wat our dear Azzarro is going thru.....sigh

[colins]

ah...bro azzarro, wonder how is he and his shenyang lady is doing. Sometimes I do like the fact that I am singaporean, we still have good guys ard. The sad part is, good guys suffer the most while playing this game. How to reconcile things like that?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

ah...bro azzarro, wonder how is he and his shenyang lady is doing. Sometimes I do like the fact that I am singaporean, we still have good guys ard. The sad part is, good guys suffer the most while playing this game. How to reconcile things like that?

Well, he's suffering in disbelief and living on false hope......
But finally after so long managed to drive a nail in to get him to walk the 1st step....he's on cold turkey since yest till monday 2359 from contacting her......
I'm not worried abt her cos she never ctcs him...nvr a sms even....its he who who goes on smsing or calling her....like i said totally 1 sided......

A word of advise to all involved in this thread.....I have learnt this from the PRC gals themselves who fall into my KC trap hahahahaha....like i posted before....
我们给他们希望。。。。那是最有效也最毒的。。。。他们一有哪个希望的感觉就什么都行了
How sad but true dude

[jon2000sg]

read this, I extracted from some other thread written another bro samster:

MMs’ primary objective is to relieve you of as much RMB/$$ as she can,
in as short a time as possible. In the short term, some may even give the excuse
to avoid staying over-night or leaving early in the morning,
even though she promised to spend the night with you. Possible reason could be she
is already “sponsored” with a monthly “retainer” but out to earn more spare cash.
However, many will start playing the mental game with you to try getting you to pay
her more, and converting you to “Instant ATM” for as long as she can. Indeed, I’ve
known many Taiwanese friends who found subsequently to their horrors that they are
not the only “ATMs” – the same MM has many “ATMs” at the same time – obviously a
smart MM, who will probably be calling all the sponsors by the same name
“Lao Gong?” Well, I call all my MMs “Lao Po” to keep them happy, but mainly
because I can never remember all their names too!

Last words of humble advice from an old fart – just remember: “Business is business,
love is all BULLSHIT.” Play hard, but remember the 5-Fs: “Find Them, Feel Them, Finger
Them, Fcuk Them, but most importantly Forget Them.” I know I sound like a mercenary –
but then again, I presume SB forumers go there for good bonks, right? Otherwise, they
should just stay home.

The morale of the story is that once these gals step onto the "bright light" and tasted
the easy money...they ll never never be the same again... They will be backed for
more....$$$....

So bro. dont waste effort and money trying to help them .... unless u can give them
more $$$ than what they could earned as a WL.... No way, they will settle for anything
less..... It's all $$$ talks

[lifeisfun]

hi all

i believed most of brothers here have read what Blurwofe had posted here claiming how he was conned and cheated by a FL and TS .
i am that TS he was referring to ..but if you people wanted clearer pictures of what has happened ,I would suggest to go to the thread : New discovery Amy at lavendar area..read all the postings and decide for yourself..
thx..

have fun..and be safe..

[DO_YOU_BJ]

hi all

i believed most of brothers here have read what Blurwofe had posted here claiming how he was conned and cheated by a FL and TS .
i am that TS he was referring to ..but if you people wanted clearer pictures of what has happened ,I would suggest to go to the thread : New discovery Amy at lavendar area..read all the postings and decide for yourself..
thx..

have fun..and be safe..

Another one bites the dust but its alright dude, many many many more will be filling the missing space before you can say ooh lala tequila

[kiko]

Honesty speaking , i believe that if a PRC gal really love me, she go shopping with me , will not ask for LV bag, eat in restaurant . .. i now deep inside my heart i very sad, my gal now refused to answer to my call and reply my sms... :confused:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Honesty speaking , i believe that if a PRC gal really love me, she go shopping with me , will not ask for LV bag, eat in restaurant . .. i now deep inside my heart i very sad, my gal now refused to answer to my call and reply my sms... :confused:

Well, then accept the signal she's giving you n move on bro.......

[BlurWolfe]

Bro Colins,

How are you, I saw this avatar before.

As per the current episode, I cant cope as she has to be in a lockup. No matter what she did and said she she did, saying that can come anytime to collect the mechandise, but now its no meaning.

Bro BlurWolfe, I've read your postings but to me its getting confusing. Why get so personal with a relationship with a PRC WL? What do you really want?

[BlurWolfe]

Bro DYBJ I know karma catched up already but its too soon for her.

someone act so sour but still very much in luv...add the pieces together...conclusion....KARMA already caught up liao.....
Fated...all fated......

[BlurWolfe]

Thanks bro, I feel bad after talking with the legal officer, anymore action may cause her to have imprisonment or even caning...:eek:

Lets hope everything will be fine =)

[colins]

Bro Colins,

How are you, I saw this avatar before.

As per the current episode, I cant cope as she has to be in a lockup. No matter what she did and said she she did, saying that can come anytime to collect the mechandise, but now its no meaning.

Hi Bro BlurWolfe, I came in with a fresh mind, but really curious on how the lockup and 'merchandise' got to do with you? Why can't you cope?

Can I ask a question - do you want a future with her? and does she?

[BlurWolfe]

I hope its not too late, but there is one thing she told me previously, she doesnt treat me as customer, meaning she will confide with me and not like performing as for customers. That also means that when she with customers, she will be in tip top service, but will tell me all her problems here, as always I listened, I tried help, I tried make her happy and being safe.

Bros can see my previous posting asking bros to buy her food to eat in case she has back to back appt.

No No and in my chat with her, she will suffer but not telling ppl who ill-treat her, and this harassment accusation is well unaccounted for.



Totally one sided...gal dun give a rats ass abt the guy but the guy still so whole heartedly stand behind her...........
If gal dies, guy will go funeral cry cry and many many months will pass before the guy actually get his sanity back.
BUT.....if guy dies......gal wont even go to the funeral and continue to live her life like nothing happened.....so sad........

[BlurWolfe]

Bro Darkstorm I paid $50 for the legal officer to tell me better not fight and he will check schedule for her case to come, may be I can be there to give her support.S$1,000 might be sufficient if it is not a complex case. If you are serious about helping her, any lawyer should be good enough. Just approach one of the many law firms around. And all the best.

[BlurWolfe]

I think may be its true, the way everything its blaming me as what is happening, but at the end AMY is a gd heart gal, she may take the LV but she wont hurt the guy she knows, even those who pay her less than whats her standard rate, she wont complain, now its the TS making up the story abt harrassing..:(


If gal dies, guy will go funeral cry cry and many many months will pass before the guy actually get his sanity back.
BUT.....if guy dies......gal wont even go to the funeral and continue to live her life like nothing happened.....so sad........

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro DYBJ I know karma catched up already but its too soon for her.

Well, soon or late...who r we to dictate.......
Anyways, she wont be back here for a long long time liao....
If you really feel sad and responsible for her well being, send her money, go up and keep her company lor.........

[BlurWolfe]

Bro with she in that stage, I am not in position to say anything other than she should not be there. may be there are others suffered for their lose too, but she is suffered enough already for what she did.

Another one bites the dust but its alright dude, many many many more will be filling the missing space before you can say ooh lala tequila

[BlurWolfe]

Hey Bro, I am also cold turkey bro too...

Of cos at beginning they all like tat, this lady also sms me few times, 'think abt me' , 'love me' but also something like ' having dinner with TS, I think abt you', that kind of honest declaration, tats why I am interested.

Well, he's suffering in disbelief and living on false hope......
But finally after so long managed to drive a nail in to get him to walk the 1st step....he's on cold turkey since yest till monday 2359 from contacting her......
I'm not worried abt her cos she never ctcs him...nvr a sms even....its he who who goes on smsing or calling her....like i said totally 1 sided......

A word of advise to all involved in this thread.....I have learnt this from the PRC gals themselves who fall into my KC trap hahahahaha....like i posted before....
我们给他们希望。。。。那是最有效也最毒的。。。。他们一有哪个希望的感觉就什么都行了
How sad but true dude

[BlurWolfe]

I had fullfiled my duty in trying to help AMY but the consequence may be too hard to bear, as per the legal officer advice, standard procedure involved deportation, (and she can get a new identity to be back in few months) but further debate in court will need specific answers thats unique in her case, but if it fail, she may get further detention and even caning...:eek:

[BlurWolfe]

I am useless, any bro can help..?

[BlurWolfe]

I think a lot of bros think I report her to AV as I said before, but its wrong, before that already posting that AV is watching the place and the lady and me also encountered so many times that ppl watching.

Whatever it is, she is really nice to us all and always tip top in service, any way we can help her may be helpful.

[colins]

Well, he's suffering in disbelief and living on false hope......
But finally after so long managed to drive a nail in to get him to walk the 1st step....he's on cold turkey since yest till monday 2359 from contacting her......
I'm not worried abt her cos she never ctcs him...nvr a sms even....its he who who goes on smsing or calling her....like i said totally 1 sided......

A word of advise to all involved in this thread.....I have learnt this from the PRC gals themselves who fall into my KC trap hahahahaha....like i posted before....
我们给他们希望。。。。那是最有效也最毒的。。。。他们一有哪个希望的感觉就什么都行了
How sad but true dude

I think the path has been fixed for bro azzarro since day one, you see the manner in which his words were used, you'll know. For people grown up in singapore, sometimes we can't imagine someone else out there whom we really care, can actually treat us this way. There was possibly never such likeness from a local, the most from a local girl is probably just playing you out with free meals and gifts, but a prc WL really can make people pay with their lives.

In all games, there are winners, and most definitely there are losers. In most normal FL-customer relationships however, we have both winners, one gets sextisfaction and the other gets money. But once you put in real feeling, no matter whether the WL is playing it real or not, you definitely become a loser.

Bro Blurwolfe, its all a transaction, bro. You want to help, you can just go and help. But pls, if you can't help, its not becos you are useless. Seriously if you post this question to me asking if I would help her, answer is simple - BRO she's in AV now! What the hell can you do?

[BlurWolfe]

Wow Wonderful reply Bro Colins,

I chatted with the legal officer, what kind of plea can we suggest:
1. first time in SG: his reply there are lots of them
2. first time in this trade: his reply so what
3. need $$ for sick mother: his reply arent they all
4: earthquake destroy their home: even she stay so far and home destroyed thats her bz.

Plus a lot of angles we can explore for mitigation, but the warning is if the judge is not going to take it, she may end up in jail terms.


Bro Blurwolfe, its all a transaction, bro. You want to help, you can just go and help. But pls, if you can't help, its not becos you are useless. Seriously if you post this question to me asking if I would help her, answer is simple - BRO she's in AV now! What the hell can you do?

[BlurWolfe]

Bro Colins, I am as sad as bro azzarro, and being zapped for harraessment as well, but my chat with law firm help me to know I am useless.

ah...bro azzarro, wonder how is he and his shenyang lady is doing. Sometimes I do like the fact that I am singaporean, we still have good guys ard. The sad part is, good guys suffer the most while playing this game. How to reconcile things like that?

[BlurWolfe]

Anyway, I need a break and the law firm will call me if Amy due for appearance...:eek:

Wonder how she will be like after so many days and I also indebt to the law firm as they charge minimal..:)

[BlurWolfe]

Bro Colins,

I wont say its a PRC cheat now, so its very simple to classify..:)

[BlurWolfe]

Bro dont crack your mind, we did mentioned before after she asking me how much I paid everymonth, minus maintenance, and always asked if house paid up already.

For your info she has asked me many times to biy the LV and seeing her so sad then I bought for her, and she mentioned pointing at LV bag she my gf. However, things started to deterioate further, called her also no answer, sms no response, (so she claim the harressment)

As she not stating as she said before as being gf but nor normal frens, I want to get back n burn it, but she asked me come at her convenience, or else forget it.

However all is not impt, as long as she can come out as soon as possible.

For your last question, I enjoyed being with her, whether gf or customer, as whether we perform as she with others she will said no, becos she treat me as someone diff, so even i pay, she do not need to pretend to service me, like pretending to customer, but at end I try to service her, to keep her happy.

Hi Bro BlurWolfe, I came in with a fresh mind, but really curious on how the lockup and 'merchandise' got to do with you? Why can't you cope?

Can I ask a question - do you want a future with her? and does she?

[colins]

No plead, pls. You know the rules in singapore, you break the law and you got caught, the only you can do is to take the punishment. Just admit, and go back with the rest.

AV very seldom make public prosecutors do their work. If they bring all prc WL who have been caught to the court, our tax will increase. Its just one too heavy load to gather the required evidence to prosecute each and everyone of them, and they need to stay on their thin line with the women's charter, the Chinese Embassy and social views. Last year over 8000 PRC (I assume most of them are WL) were 'sent back'. Technically, they weren't deported, becos that needs court orders which uses the 'deportation treaty' between sg and prc. It will also go into the books, which will basically looks real funny if someone takes it out someday and say sg deports 8000 prc a year becos they committed crimes. So our govt already work out a system to curb this activities of WL-ing, by making them go back within 3 days. Fast, cheap, not too much reports, no lawyers and judges involved. Of cos, they will tell you your rights - you have the right to fight, you have the right to say you're innocent, but you know in their heart, you've heard a little 'bring it on and make my day' in their speech. They'll hammer you until you DUN EVER WANT to come to sg again.

If you fight them on legal grounds, you up the stakes to the court. They will use 'prostitution' laws to charge you and give you the max to show the rest of the people what will happen if you dun 'compound' your failure to obey rules.

For you, its very simple. You can choose to be hero and help her get the maximum sentence in the court. Or you can choose to be another hero and advise her accordingly, just accept the 'system' and get your ass back to where you're from.

But my advice is, dun even be any hero. Stay the hell out of it. If you think its not your fault that she got caught, then you shouldnt be feeling so damn guilty over that. She came here knowing that risk much better than you do.

If you are really the 25kid and supplied the tip for her arrest, then do something about that guilt of yours. Either give her a sum of money, or just get your sorry ass back to your own life and worry about your meals.

[BlurWolfe]

I do suffer, and also I may be be good guys as you can check from feedback, but my intention is always the lady is save, think abt everyone nite she will call and suddenly no answers, tats create a lots of unnecessary excitement whether she is caught or not.

I will not want to have the LV back becos she suffered already being caught, and she must be rewarded.


ah...bro azzarro, wonder how is he and his shenyang lady is doing. Sometimes I do like the fact that I am singaporean, we still have good guys ard. The sad part is, good guys suffer the most while playing this game. How to reconcile things like that?

[BlurWolfe]

Bro Colins, you also in legal profession?

Your advice is same the legal officer that I paid $50 to talk with.
Dont try anything funny or else she will suffer.

I am not the 25th kid, I wont be and never can help to be, but I and others already warning her about the place, being too routine and also we have problem talking with each other. She has strong mind ok.



For you, its very simple. You can choose to be hero and help her get the maximum sentence in the court. Or you can choose to be another hero and advise her accordingly, just accept the 'system' and get your ass back to where you're from.

But my advice is, dun even be any hero. Stay the hell out of it. If you think its not your fault that she got caught, then you shouldnt be feeling so damn guilty over that. She came here knowing that risk much better than you do.

If you are really the 25kid and supplied the tip for her arrest, then do something about that guilt of yours. Either give her a sum of money, or just get your sorry ass back to your own life and worry about your meals.

[colins]

Bro dont crack your mind, we did mentioned before after she asking me how much I paid everymonth, minus maintenance, and always asked if house paid up already.

For your info she has asked me many times to biy the LV and seeing her so sad then I bought for her, and she mentioned pointing at LV bag she my gf. However, things started to deterioate further, called her also no answer, sms no response, (so she claim the harressment)

As she not stating as she said before as being gf but nor normal frens, I want to get back n burn it, but she asked me come at her convenience, or else forget it.

However all is not impt, as long as she can come out as soon as possible.

For your last question, I enjoyed being with her, whether gf or customer, as whether we perform as she with others she will said no, becos she treat me as someone diff, so even i pay, she do not need to pretend to service me, like pretending to customer, but at end I try to service her, to keep her happy.

Sorry I have to use your entire post in reply. Cos now I sort of know what's happening. And I found every bit of it worrying. My replies will not be useful to you anymore cos I think you need serious help. Talk to someone like your brother or dad or even your mum. Someone who can give you the right amount of 'physical interaction' to wake you up.

My only advice now is, she is not your women, neither does she want to. What happened to her is her issue, you stay out and stop disturbing her.

[colins]

Bro Colins, you also in legal profession?

Your advice is same the legal officer that I paid $50 to talk with.
Dont try anything funny or else she will suffer.

I am not the 25th kid, I wont be and never can help to be, but I and others already warning her about the place, being too routine and also we have problem talking with each other. She has strong mind ok.

No I'm not in the legal profession, if I am I would have pm you to come to my office tomorrow (with $50 in your wallet). These are common knowledge that almost everyone in geylang would know.

Again, pls seek advice from your big brother, make sure he is bigger size than you. Do forget about her, go some ktvs and bonk a few girls or something. FORGET ABOUT HER.

[wodemama]

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If you fight them on legal grounds, you up the stakes to the court. They will use 'prostitution' laws to charge you and give you the max to show the rest of the people what will happen if you dun 'compound' your failure to obey rules.

For you, its very simple. You can choose to be hero and help her get the maximum sentence in the court. Or you can choose to be another hero and advise her accordingly, just accept the 'system' and get your ass back to where you're from.

But my advice is, dun even be any hero. Stay the hell out of it. If you think its not your fault that she got caught, then you shouldnt be feeling so damn guilty over that. She came here knowing that risk much better than you do.

If you are really the 25kid and supplied the tip for her arrest, then do something about that guilt of yours. Either give her a sum of money, or just get your sorry ass back to your own life and worry about your meals.


True. PLeading will only make matter worst as she broke the law knowingly.
And if bro wolf, if you did not report her to av, just forget about this whole thing alr. wads done cannot be undone. go find some other girls to bonk and rmb not to fall into the kc trap again!

[Insider]

Dont bring suffering upon yourself ..... anything to do with legal system and this WLs, just ignore ...

[hurtsogood]

Singaporean gals may not have true luve either
look at da divorce rate

i met a few prc gals
1) pay 120, syt (XQ)
2) pay 250 for overnite yet stil complain 2 little (JYF)
3) charges 200, time clocking, sucks (ZY)
4) con u buy diz buy dat, syt but quite worldly (bnbn)
5) charges overnite for air ticket and being coy about it (bnbn)
6) pay 120 w/o complaint (SnSn)(2)
7) pay 150 juz 4 company (KK) - 1st time experience social escort
8) pay 240, syt (KK)
9) pay 150 w/o complaint, syt n outing, expenses only (bo,)
10) charges 350 for onite, at least outfront, syt, (znzn)
11) pay 200 for overnite n outing, expenses only (SS)
12) pay 100 and no clocking, another syt (LYT)

is all $$, even for sillipore gals, expec guy 2 do all the paying...
s/times the feeling wih prc can b mo enriching... thatz where the cuntfusion set in, haha

tot of goin 4 long term wih 1 prc but dunno how 2 tes water
another ask me 2 be her boyboy, but no take up coz she say she juz broke up
was tol by fren that prc cook story like nobody biz, dunno what is real or not real... vsion startin to blurrr....

[slider_72]

No plead, pls. You know the rules in singapore, you break the law and you got caught, the only you can do is to take the punishment. Just admit, and go back with the rest.

AV very seldom make public prosecutors do their work. If they bring all prc WL who have been caught to the court, our tax will increase. Its just one too heavy load to gather the required evidence to prosecute each and everyone of them, and they need to stay on their thin line with the women's charter, the Chinese Embassy and social views. Last year over 8000 PRC (I assume most of them are WL) were 'sent back'. Technically, they weren't deported, becos that needs court orders which uses the 'deportation treaty' between sg and prc. It will also go into the books, which will basically looks real funny if someone takes it out someday and say sg deports 8000 prc a year becos they committed crimes. So our govt already work out a system to curb this activities of WL-ing, by making them go back within 3 days. Fast, cheap, not too much reports, no lawyers and judges involved. Of cos, they will tell you your rights - you have the right to fight, you have the right to say you're innocent, but you know in their heart, you've heard a little 'bring it on and make my day' in their speech. They'll hammer you until you DUN EVER WANT to come to sg again.

If you fight them on legal grounds, you up the stakes to the court. They will use 'prostitution' laws to charge you and give you the max to show the rest of the people what will happen if you dun 'compound' your failure to obey rules.

For you, its very simple. You can choose to be hero and help her get the maximum sentence in the court. Or you can choose to be another hero and advise her accordingly, just accept the 'system' and get your ass back to where you're from.

But my advice is, dun even be any hero. Stay the hell out of it. If you think its not your fault that she got caught, then you shouldnt be feeling so damn guilty over that. She came here knowing that risk much better than you do.

If you are really the 25kid and supplied the tip for her arrest, then do something about that guilt of yours. Either give her a sum of money, or just get your sorry ass back to your own life and worry about your meals.

err.. just to make some corrections to your post, don't mind hor :D

When a WL is arrested, ordinarily the first thing they check is whether she is an over-stayer. If she is on a valid social visit visa or student pass but was caught FLing, the simplest thing for the authorities to do is to simply cancel her pass on the ground that she is an undesirable person.

The decision is made by the immigrations people. Under the Immigration Act, full authority is vested in the Commissioner for Immigrations. The decision of the Commissioner for Immigrations is not subject to review by the Court. Even if you have the money to hire lawyers, it is useless.

Once the pass is cancelled, the WL will have to leave the country within the number of days specified in the White Card. If she does not have any means of leaving the country, the govt will pay for her airfare to leave Singapore.

When that happens, the girl is deported. Bro Colins was probably referring to an Extradition Treaty in his last post. This is only relevant if the girl committed a crime in China but is hiding in Singapore. In order for the Chinese govt to require us to hand her over, we must have an Extradition Treaty signed first. Deportation does not require any treaties as it is a unilateral act by the State ordering the girl to get out.

A Singaporean cannot be deported as under our Constitution, Singapore citizens have a constitutional right to remain in Singapore.

In the event the WL is an over-stayer, the Immigrations Act provides for certain penalties including jail terms and rotan (for the men). Now in order to have these penalties meted out, the over-stayers will have to be charged in Court as only the Court has the power to punish the accused person.

If the WL is charged in Court, the accused person will then be entitled to legal representation.

The law is clear on this issue. You are either in possession of a valid pass or you are not. It is a simple factual issue. If you are not in possession of a valid pass, you have no rights to remain in Singapore and thus attracts the punishment as stipulated in the Immigration Act.

Once the person is convicted of remaining in Singapore without a proper pass, and finishes his/her jail term, he/she will be deported.

In both instances, immigrations will probably blacklist that person and will deny that person entry into Singapore in future.

As for "prostitution laws" mentioned by Bro Colins, it is not illegal to be a prostitute in Singapore. It is however illegal to solicit in public. If a WL is to be charged for soliciting in public, there is a need to adduce proper evidence in support of that charge. I don't know what kind of evidence the police is going to bring but the chances of a clever lawyer getting the girl out of shit for this type of a charge is far better compared with a charge under the Immigrations Act. Hence the Immigrations Act is the preferred weapon of choice in dealing with such situations.

All said and done, if the WL bro Blurwolfe mentioned was charged in Court, she was probably charged for staying in Singapore without a valid pass. No amount of mitigation will help as there is a standard tariff applicable.

[colins]

Now thats a much better version of the explanation by bro slider_72, like I say mine is geylang talk, and this is lawyer's talk. Thanks for taking the time to clarify man, and for that fact that I am able to speak lawyer's talk now.

[Existentialism]

All said and done, if the WL bro Blurwolfe mentioned was charged in Court, she was probably charged for staying in Singapore without a valid pass. No amount of mitigation will help as there is a standard tariff applicable.

Very, very comprehensive. Very, very clear. Thanks for absolute clarification of the policies and laws regarding FLs.:D I wouldn't have understood it fully if not for you bro slider (I also lazy to google it and read through the pedantic legal jargon too la! :p)

To also gain clarification on the twisted policies and mental state of blurwolfe, you might want to refer to...

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/health-centre-ktv-lounge-tangos/86758-new-discovery-amy-lavendar-area-17.html

With all due respect to all bros, I think "advising" him here is tantamount to "validating" his disturbed methods.


Thanks for reading

[colins]

Ah so this was what happened...whole junk yard of story over there. Din know so many bros were involved.

[people power]

So enlightening .... :)

[satyr365]

Ah so this was what happened...whole junk yard of story over there. Din know so many bros were involved.

It is all quite disturbing:(

Cheers

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Ah so this was what happened...whole junk yard of story over there. Din know so many bros were involved.

Yup bro Colins, wif so much happening there....from reading it, doesn't it make sense why even old men have fist fights over WLs in GL.....no freaking logic man.....hahahaha...so many people fighting for rights of a public toilet......lucky i only got zapped.......for all you know, in real person, i'll be chopped to pieces by a sour lover for calling his WL lover a WL hahahahaha

[MF101]

The greatest challenge is to tell oneself not to let fantasy overwhelm rationalism.

[aczeta76]

Yup bro Colins, wif so much happening there....from reading it, doesn't it make sense why even old men have fist fights over WLs in GL.....no freaking logic man.....hahahaha...so many people fighting for rights of a public toilet......lucky i only got zapped.......for all you know, in real person, i'll be chopped to pieces by a sour lover for calling his WL lover a WL hahahahaha

Ya...maybe hoh.

Last time when I hang out lots at L17/L19 at nite, saw a couple of times some bro freaking losing his temper at the carpark. Always see him carrying branded paper bag for those expensive brands...LV, Gucci, Bvlgari

Think he kena play by some WL...me and my GF used to watch "show" then quickly run away when he start kicking the trees and banging cars

[colins]

This is worse than I thought man, I mean you dun even see these in China. Looks like PRC WLs are really worming their way into our heartland, and hearts. LV bags...I wonder which is more ironic, the gift itself or the feelings sg men gave to those WLs.

[thunter]

men in this part of the world so deprived liao :(

[DO_YOU_BJ]

This is worse than I thought man, I mean you dun even see these in China. Looks like PRC WLs are really worming their way into our heartland, and hearts. LV bags...I wonder which is more ironic, the gift itself or the feelings sg men gave to those WLs.


Bro Colins, I think the LV bag or watever branded stuff is only a token.....the individuals freaked because of the emotional attachments.........

[colins]

Hey Bro DYBJ, thats why I think its damn ironic. Anybody here who say that they are immune to KC is only 纸上谈兵. Until you meet 'that' girl, until you cheong every weekends, until you meet the likeness of your first infatuation in a WL, then you know how real the whole affair of KC is.

We can talk all we want here, but bros, how many of us can leave the scene without regrets? You see those guys kicking cats and knocking down tables for WL, if they are only statistics they would represent the bottom 5% of the bell curve. If you havent experience it well enough, and went thru all these shit these bros are going through with their KC problems, how do you reach the top 5%?

My point of it being ironic, is that when so many bros are head over heels over their own WL, giving them presents, it is time that their WL break their heart. There are just so many irony that the scene just dun work the normal ways anyway. You can never use rational thinking when you enter the game.
Like when they ask for gifts, and after you give in, they'll leave you. When they ask for security, and you want to marry them, they still want to continue getting f by other bros. When they get sick, and you get concerned over their welfare, yet when they get well you never have chance to meet them again. When you have money, they only want your money. When you have no money, you line up to be their caretaker when they're sick. So think about it, can you give them ANYTHING?

All these stories unfolding here shows that it is just one big illusion stacked upon another. The greatest irony is, we still happily think we found an alternative gf, and possibly treat them better than any other gf we knew.

But again, if you read this and think that I am generalising, oh yes I am. But if I give you isolated cases, you'll think this message is from another WL-lover. Personally I had 6 prc gf before, the last one I knew her in sg, none of them treat me this way. But when I see the tears coming down my bros eyes, I dun have the heart to say a word other than "its ok, its over".

Its like War of the Worlds, something so alien has invaded us and we're like flies going after their flame.

Dun mind the beer talk ok. cheers

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro Colins, well said...as usual....
So real and yet so sad.....so many men fighting over a public toilet....and yet is not exclusively theirs....
Well, there r 2 realms that we all live in...the real & the illusionary......one is painful the other is sweet.....
OR....
Regret now & enjoy later of enjoy now n regret later.......
Many forget one basic thing...a WL from PRC will come here and do all kinda stuff that is totally "INHUMAN" so to speak....but once they've hit their mark, they go back home and the act is over and life goes on and best, no one knows of their filth here....prolly get married and lead a normal life after......whereas those left here....as you said...war of the worlds bro....how true

I've gone to back to the motherland with several of my so-called GFs and always notice how different they are there and here.....all a facade.....but very well played.....

One thing i gotta say is, bro, they're good at wat they do...this is an understatement

[colins]

Yes Bro DYBJ, what some of them did can be said as being inhumane. Actually, and I hate to say this, I believe 90% of the fault may be with the guy. Too eager to please, too eager to fall for it. As to why I say this, there are reasons. For one, I ktv for like 3 nights average a week, meet some new prc ktv girls and not one of them call me or message me. I treat them averagely, nothing too profound and says very little about myself. All my buddies are the same except 2, who left their mobile numbers and followed up thinking they'll get free sex after their sessions but afterwards, both got KC and almost left our group. They dun know each other, being of different groups, but both shared the same fate.

When bro lovemachine said about WL being hitched to successful businessmen, this is also true. All sg guys are susceptible to their charms (and I am not saying only the pretty ones ok). While I am not saying those businessmen are dumb, I'm saying WL offers a value proposition that has never been seen in sg. Where in time in sg are there so many available mistresses/FBs/gfs/WL? I've spoken to them, all stories come back to the same point, they can pay for their WL affections. They thought they have control, becos they are the ones paying, but in the end, who controls who?

Frankly, I dun know what will happen to sg if all the WL leaves. They are no longer any social phenomena, they have a role in our society now. And that role is to give us another one big illusion to live on our little lives. Its a child's toy for a child who will never grow up.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro Colins, actually cant blame the situation...they're the most discreet alternative around....plus like "EXOTIC" fruits....you know wat i mean

[kiko]

In my opinion, if the pRC gal really likes u and there is true love , when go shopping , will save money for u , will not ask u buy LV. when come to food,, eat in coffee shop and hawker centre... once a while go macdonald or restaurant.. when come to feeling, is about how she care for u , as for ktv joint, if she cares about u , she wont want u to spend hard earn money on the massage. spa and KTV joints.. she loves u , will want to save money for u .

[DO_YOU_BJ]

In my opinion, if the pRC gal really likes u and there is true love , when go shopping , will save money for u , will not ask u buy LV. when come to food,, eat in coffee shop and hawker centre... once a while go macdonald or restaurant.. when come to feeling, is about how she care for u , as for ktv joint, if she cares about u , she wont want u to spend hard earn money on the massage. spa and KTV joints.. she loves u , will want to save money for u .

Hi bro kiko, saw your earlier posts and sense you're somewat in a emotional situation.
What you posted is 50/50 rite only....simply bcos, it applies to any gal of watever nationality..........
As for spending in KTVs, HC, massage and all that, errrr dun tink any sane guy will go about reporting it to his GF, wife or watever.......

[aczeta76]

Hey Bro DYBJ, thats why I think its damn ironic. Anybody here who say that they are immune to KC is only 纸上谈兵. Until you meet 'that' girl, until you cheong every weekends, until you meet the likeness of your first infatuation in a WL, then you know how real the whole affair of KC is.

We can talk all we want here, but bros, how many of us can leave the scene without regrets? You see those guys kicking cats and knocking down tables for WL, if they are only statistics they would represent the bottom 5% of the bell curve. If you havent experience it well enough, and went thru all these shit these bros are going through with their KC problems, how do you reach the top 5%?

My point of it being ironic, is that when so many bros are head over heels over their own WL, giving them presents, it is time that their WL break their heart. There are just so many irony that the scene just dun work the normal ways anyway. You can never use rational thinking when you enter the game.
Like when they ask for gifts, and after you give in, they'll leave you. When they ask for security, and you want to marry them, they still want to continue getting f by other bros. When they get sick, and you get concerned over their welfare, yet when they get well you never have chance to meet them again. When you have money, they only want your money. When you have no money, you line up to be their caretaker when they're sick. So think about it, can you give them ANYTHING?

All these stories unfolding here shows that it is just one big illusion stacked upon another. The greatest irony is, we still happily think we found an alternative gf, and possibly treat them better than any other gf we knew.

But again, if you read this and think that I am generalising, oh yes I am. But if I give you isolated cases, you'll think this message is from another WL-lover. Personally I had 6 prc gf before, the last one I knew her in sg, none of them treat me this way. But when I see the tears coming down my bros eyes, I dun have the heart to say a word other than "its ok, its over".

Its like War of the Worlds, something so alien has invaded us and we're like flies going after their flame.

Dun mind the beer talk ok. cheers

here here...totally agree.

Sometimes you think about it, when you give them gifts or S$$ (esp when both of you are not that close - in terms of time spent together.) They can actually think that you are a player and do this to every 2nd girl you meet.

Damn sweet-talker and WL Killer.. this is how you look to them. SO how to expect them to trust your words and be true to you.

Time will tell all. Whether or not you spend loads on her, proceed only if u are in for the long haul else be aware that it will be a losing battle, u will lose from the start...

[slider_72]

Do you guys think that it is just us, the Singaporean men, who behave like this? Or is this something that is common in other countries as well?

If it is just us, the Singaporean men, it begs the question why we behave like this. Too much pressure in the real world that we escape into the fantasy world where we imagine that we are the heros rescuing the damsels in distress? Are we masochists who enjoy the feeling of being hurt or reckless risk-takers thinking that it (ie the heartbreak) would not happen to us?

If we can understand our own psyche better, perhaps we can find a way out of this conundrum.

[colins]

To me, the reasons pushing guys to do that depends on their socio-economic level and age. It basically stems from the word, OPTION. Without money and status, you have very limited chance with the girl of your dream (now that the media glorifies syt-type girls, I guess thats what most of us want as gfs). With money, you have also have very limited options as first, marriage and kids doesn't make a lot of financial sense (thats why the more successful guys either marry late or divorce very early) and second, got so much money to spare why stay with only one? WL enters the picture and fulfil everybody from poor to the rich, young to the elderly. So 'option' is reason number one.

Sg guys are actually more conservative, if you notice, and that makes us a little more MCP, 'face conscious' and weaker in will power. That brings us more towards the naive scale in terms of relationship but mind you, sg guys have good business minds. Its just that we do not usually bring our guts out to work, fearing that one day, everything will be taken from us if we just heong for one time. WL enters the picture, polishing our feathers and having a field day with our mental weakness. So, being naive and 'low profile' is reason number two.

Third reason is practical. We are a repressed lot of people. IMO, repressed means being made to think in a certain way. So that leaves a lot of room, and urge, for us to think in a way we always wanted. For an affordable price, we can achieve that (like in Total Recall, where a holiday trip is just an infusion of memories). So much so that some of us do that so frequently, and indulge in it so deeply, that we thought those dreams are real. At least until one day, when you sent your favourite prc gf to the airport, came back and sleep in the same bed, wake up in the same position, while driving to work you realise that it is no different from a dream.

There are many more reasons, I guess all of us want something different in our lives. But I believe in the end its becos they can fulfil some of our greatest fantasies, that's why some of us are willing to trade our lives for it.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro Colins, I couldn't have siad it any better than you did.....
Kudos...upz u man

[colins]

Thanks man, all it takes is a little martell for inspirations, 2 - 3 prc girls for field observations and the smiling waiter with a bill, for lots of reality. cheerios

[evo3]

well done man:)

[dempsey]

A story to share..
A year ago I have a friend who is 30 yo wanted to marry a 21 yo FL from Chongqing who used to work in GL Lor 8 as they were in love. The girl quit after 2 weeks on her second trip here. He was encouraged by his friends not to as most see this marriage will not last. The girl is young and both knew each other in that kind of area and suitation.
The friends said he will definitely concern whether will she look for his customers again ? will he hunted by her past?
To the 21 yo chongqing, will she worry him go to red light district again? will she believe him if he say no?
However they married, occassionaly they quarrel and now the girl who is 4 months pregant. Worry grow for the girl ...

[Raytan]

If they both really in love they will not mind and hunted by their past. End of the day is depend the individual.

[machoman]

If they both really in love they will not mind and hunted by their past. End of the day is depend the individual.

Call me an incurable romantic fool but I really believe that there can be true love between an ex so-called WL. Everybody without exception has a past, be it good or bad. :cool: :o

The question can be further expanded to state: " Can there be true love with criminals? " For me, I firmly believe that everybody deserves to be given a 2nd chance or even more chances to lead a more fulfilling life provided he is willing to change for the better. :) :D

[Mean Boy]

Call me an incurable romantic fool but I really believe that there can be true love between an ex so-called WL. Everybody without exception has a past, be it good or bad. :cool: :o

The question can be further expanded to state: " Can there be true love with criminals? " For me, I firmly believe that everybody deserves to be given a 2nd chance or even more chances to lead a more fulfilling life provided he is willing to change for the better. :)

Good morning Chairman,

Clap clap, well said brother.:D
I Second you.
Those EX-WL deserve to be given a second chance and be forgiven for their pasts to allow them to move on for a brighter future.

[xyz1001]

Call me an incurable romantic fool but I really believe that there can be true love between an ex so-called WL. Everybody without exception has a past, be it good or bad. :cool: :o

The question can be further expanded to state: " Can there be true love with criminals? " For me, I firmly believe that everybody deserves to be given a 2nd chance or even more chances to lead a more fulfilling life provided he is willing to change for the better. :) :D

I second that. Call me another an incurable romantic fool then. Yes, everyone has a past, everyone makes mistake. The important things is to learn your mistake, don't repeat, and move on as a better person.

[XRATED]

Pardon me if I'm right or wrong. I understand many of the men who can't find true love in their routine life. This resulted many fall into WL or FL regardless she from LOS, PRC, Viet,etc.
Some married men too who go for commeriacl sex and fall in love with the FL or WL because they lost in love at home.

[XiaoChang]

The question can be further expanded to state: " Can there be true love with criminals? " For me, I firmly believe that everybody deserves to be given a 2nd chance or even more chances to lead a more fulfilling life provided he is willing to change for the better. :) :D

The problem is the man must be able to forget about the past ... failed relationship with WLs is bcos men cant let go of the past completely, if they can, I am sure the WLs will gladly do it ....

[colins]

Call me an incurable romantic fool but I really believe that there can be true love between an ex so-called WL. Everybody without exception has a past, be it good or bad. :cool: :o

The question can be further expanded to state: " Can there be true love with criminals? " For me, I firmly believe that everybody deserves to be given a 2nd chance or even more chances to lead a more fulfilling life provided he is willing to change for the better. :) :D

Yeah, as long as that man can love the girl more than he loves himself. This type of love, is like the love between mothers and children, very self-sacrificial.
Although it bears greatness, it has great risk too. In sg, it might be a risk that very little portion of us can take. But its heartening to find someone like you who understands the meaning of 2nd chance.

[XueJing]

Words of wisdom from the MAN .... :)

Call me an incurable romantic fool but I really believe that there can be true love between an ex so-called WL. Everybody without exception has a past, be it good or bad. :cool: :o

The question can be further expanded to state: " Can there be true love with criminals? " For me, I firmly believe that everybody deserves to be given a 2nd chance or even more chances to lead a more fulfilling life provided he is willing to change for the better.

[aces68]

Pardon me if I'm right or wrong. I understand many of the men who can't find true love in their routine life. This resulted many fall into WL or FL regardless she from LOS, PRC, Viet,etc.
Some married men too who go for commeriacl sex and fall in love with the FL or WL because they lost in love at home.

I totally agree....but the problem is how do you confirm whether what you get from FL is true love ?
You can hear so many stories of lies and deception by FL http://www.sammyboyforum.com/adult-discussions-about-sex/85941-most-wl-fl-likes-tell-lies.html#post2800691
Recently, I also met an FL whom I quite like, but unfortunately her story of coming to S'pore is actually a lie, initially she says she's married with kid, later change story to divorced with kid, but finally she said actually no kid. Although after some time, she did admit that she did not have kid..she keep saying that someday she will tell me the story of her life in China, but till now she haven't done so..

[shacker]

Bro aces68, in your case, since she keep hiding the truth from you, better dont put to much into relationship mentally, just enjoy while in last, you never knwo what kind of bombshell will come from her later ...

[machoman]

I totally agree....but the problem is how do you confirm whether what you get from FL is true love ?
You can hear so many stories of lies and deception by FL http://www.sammyboyforum.com/adult-discussions-about-sex/85941-most-wl-fl-likes-tell-lies.html#post2800691
Recently, I also met an FL whom I quite like, but unfortunately her story of coming to S'pore is actually a lie, initially she says she's married with kid, later change story to divorced with kid, but finally she said actually no kid. Although after some time, she did admit that she did not have kid..she keep saying that someday she will tell me the story of her life in China, but till now she haven't done so..

Well, in all fairness, actually I have in my relationships (non-sexual) with both men & women (not in the sex profession) who in the initial stage, encountered such so-called "white lies" being told as well.

I guess in the initial stages of a relationship, many people ( not only WL) are not totally upfront with the other party & they don't want to reveal too much personal info as the element of trust is still not there.

Hopefully, when 2 parties get to know each other better & the relationship develops, there is greater trust & they are more truthful with each other.

[slider_72]

Bro xyz1001, I just noticed your signature. You know what, I have exactly the same thought in mind right now, ie retirement.

I just helped my "gf" booked her return ticket. She will be off early next month. On the one hand, I feel kind of sad that we may not be able to see each other again, but on the other hand, I am glad that I may just be able to regain control over my life again. I am getting very distracted at work and my productivity at work has suffered over the past couple of weeks.

Logically I tell myself that this cannot be love as the time we spent together was simply too short and we do not really know each other well enough. Unfortunately the heart still yearns for her each time we part.

This type of relationship is far too tiring for me. I am thinking that I shall stop cheonging from now on. Too dangerous emotionally.

[aces68]

Bro xyz1001, I just noticed your signature. You know what, I have exactly the same thought in mind right now, ie retirement.

I just helped my "gf" booked her return ticket. She will be off early next month. On the one hand, I feel kind of sad that we may not be able to see each other again, but on the other hand, I am glad that I may just be able to regain control over my life again. I am getting very distracted at work and my productivity at work has suffered over the past couple of weeks.

Logically I tell myself that this cannot be love as the time we spent together was simply too short and we do not really know each other well enough. Unfortunately the heart still yearns for her each time we part.

This type of relationship is far too tiring for me. I am thinking that I shall stop cheonging from now on. Too dangerous emotionally.

I agree...I also had the same experience..when my 'gf' was here, I would take half-day leaves in the morning when I had overnight with her.
Cos damn stressed to wake up at 7am and go to work after bonking the whole night.
After a while, obviously my productivity at work suffers and work began to pile up..and when I wasn't with her, sometimes I could not sleep at night thinking about what she's doing and so on... it's a very draining and tiring relationship.

[aczeta76]

Bro xyz1001, I just noticed your signature. You know what, I have exactly the same thought in mind right now, ie retirement.

Logically I tell myself that this cannot be love as the time we spent together was simply too short and we do not really know each other well enough. Unfortunately the heart still yearns for her each time we part.

This type of relationship is far too tiring for me. I am thinking that I shall stop cheonging from now on. Too dangerous emotionally.

Ya.. i have the same type of feeling when my GF was still here... as time passes, not sure whether to visit her in ZH is the right thing to do.. but when we talk over the phone.

Haiz... retirement.. easier said then done

[glooper83]

Ya.. i have the same type of feeling when my GF was still here... as time passes, not sure whether to visit her in ZH is the right thing to do.. but when we talk over the phone.

Haiz... retirement.. easier said then done

Good luck with yours, hope that it turns out well! :)

I always like to believe that no one is born evil, it is the circumstances and situations that changes a person. Hence, I always try to consider both sides of the picture and if the person should be given a second chance. Why not? Even if they are simply prostituting themselves for the money for materialistic wants, there could be a good reason behind. I guess none of us in Sg have been subjected to abstract poverty and i feel that these woman have the right to want to leave that life of poverty behind, no matter what means they take. When they see other girls in their village coming back with so much money, definitely there will be envy, and ultimately peer pressure to succeed too. As i read in another post, if our forefathers did not take the chance to come here, we might also be like them right now. I am not saying we should all go out and start loving them/pitying them but neither should we be so harsh on them. Hence, i dun see why love cannot blossom if they genuinely like each other. But definitely the WL has to stop doing what she does and let time and love heal the past.

[slider_72]

Ya.. i have the same type of feeling when my GF was still here... as time passes, not sure whether to visit her in ZH is the right thing to do.. but when we talk over the phone.

Bro, I am not sure what is your exact predicament, but unless you are sure that she is the one you want to marry (assuming both of you are not married), my view is that you should not visit her in ZH or continue contacting her on the phone. Being physically apart is probably the best way to discontinue the relationship.

If you are not meant to be together, let it go bro.

[kiko]

If both of u really love each other, u should go china visit her... at the same time , find a job there , buy a house and live with yr gal.

[aczeta76]

If both of u really love each other, u should go china visit her... at the same time , find a job there , buy a house and live with yr gal.

Haiz...if I can get a job paying me the same here then I dun mind but not easy ler...money dun grow on trees..