Do u cheat on your wife? Married bros

[harakiril33]

Curious about the status of married personnel here

1) any children

2) good or bad relation with wife

3) cheat or no cheat

4) why cheat? Why no cheat

Will be quite stunned if there are many faithful husbands here in a sex forum. On the opposite end, are there bros with good relation but still cheat

[harakiril33]

Start with myself

Have kids. Never cheated. Whenever quarrel with wife, I'll turn to view SBF. Nowadays good relation with her but still tempted to cheat. Everyday wake up have to control from straying.

She's loyal and I'll be a jerk if betray. Reputation and fear of STD, covid-19 are holding me back. It's really hard but have to control

[francined69]

Start with myself

Have kids. Never cheated. Whenever quarrel with wife, I'll turn to view SBF. Nowadays good relation with her but still tempted to cheat. Everyday wake up have to control from straying.

She's loyal and I'll be a jerk if betray. Reputation and fear of STD, covid-19 are holding me back. It's really hard but have to control

if wife is fulfilling your sexual needs and she's loyal to you and kids, then you have a very happy family.

no reason to cheat in my opinion.

the temptation to stray is always there. however once the trust is broken, then it is difficult to mend. and kids may be on the suffering end between adult matters.

[Continental]

No, but there are some wives who cheat on their husbands

[harakiril33]

if wife is fulfilling your sexual needs and she's loyal to you and kids, then you have a very happy family.

no reason to cheat in my opinion.

the temptation to stray is always there. however once the trust is broken, then it is difficult to mend. and kids may be on the suffering end between adult matters.

Very true. I think sexual needs and desires will never be fully fulfiled. There are certain fantasies which I can't communicate to wife. Also cannot turn her into a hot latina model. Temptation to turn to FL is huge. But big head must rule over small head

[harakiril33]

No, but there are some wives who cheat on their husbands

Nice faithful husband!

[Gamerboy]

Best to let some fantasies remain ‘unfulfilled’ bro...

[tnuc]

Married with kids. Cheong massage parlours and ktvs. I don’t consider this cheating as these are purely transactions without emotions

[hawkeye007]

Married with kids. Cheong massage parlours and ktvs. I don’t consider this cheating as these are purely transactions without emotions

Not trying to flame you as I am no saint myself (although I have retired from chionging), but your rationale of not considering it cheating if it doesn’t involve emotions is somewhat flawed...

So on the flip side of the coin, if you discover that your wife has been visiting a massage parlour and getting boned by the masseuse but it was just purely transactional and doesn’t involve any emotions, will you still say it’s not cheating..?

[tnuc]

I won’t judge fellow bros as Long as they are responsible towards their families.

I will not put myself in my wife’s shoes because men and women are different

[doombringer]

asking in a forum that the content are mostly about cheonging sex fantasies prostitutes..

[AwesomeGuy]

I am married with no kids, i do cheat and i feel very bad and guilty always.

I only go to Massage and ask them to HJ. Sometimes just to release out my stress with wife everyday.

[cassanovas84]

Not trying to flame you as I am no saint myself (although I have retired from chionging), but your rationale of not considering it cheating if it doesn’t involve emotions is somewhat flawed...

So on the flip side of the coin, if you discover that your wife has been visiting a massage parlour and getting boned by the masseuse but it was just purely transactional and doesn’t involve any emotions, will you still say it’s not cheating..?

i think in their relationship dynamics not so straightforward. if you want it black or white then yes sex outside of a marriage is wrong.

but if you are willing to see the shades of grey you will realize;

sometimes not all needs in a marriage are met, emotional and physical, thats why we have friends and family we rely on for different facets of our mental health.

sometimes you can't put that pressure of your needs, wants and desires on your partner its not fair to them and it will make you feel like shit for that. and also you may not subscribe to the idea that your lustful thoughts are sin and that its perfectly normal to want to have a threesome.

as a spouse you may have completely to the best of your knowledge taken care of your partner but then feel its not the same the other way around. you may or may not have tried to address this, but come to the conclusion your spouse cannot or will not address this without burning down the house.

the emotion thing is true. i have had friends whose wives found about the paid sex and the thing that hurt the wife the most was the hiding and the lying, not the actual sex, they also question their own womanhood (why am i not enough for my husband) and when it is a full blown affair the wife is distraught cos she feels her marriage and relationship was a lie and that all the years and effort she spent on the relationship was a waste and that she was betrayed.

also if you really don't want to cheat on your wife. ask your self why do you want to go out and do it anyway? the top reasons i know of are:

1. lack of control over life
2. lack of control over money
3. angry at wife so want to hurt her in some way unknown to her
4. no sexual satisfaction
5. craving for a different type of sexual connection/relationship

if you can identify the problem you can probably deal with it and feel good about yourself without spending money and spraying cum :cool:

[Wakeup123]

Many women n men become fat, very fat and no more regular sex after married. If you are those who don't like sex, only want a companion then it's ok. But if sex n slim body is what you desire, then one day you will definitely cheat. Some do not want to be called a Cheater, so they choose to divorce first. Some want the companion n also wants the sex, they become a cheater. To get tied down by a marriage certificate and forego what you desire, one will regret or not regret when he or she reaches old age, depends on what he or she wants in life. We only live once.

[afterburn]

I won’t judge fellow bros as Long as they are responsible towards their families.

I will not put myself in my wife’s shoes because men and women are different

I am fully in agreement, not to judge others based on only a superficial observation of such behaviour. We can't really know the full story.

Men vs women value system is totally different. Women can forgive an affair (emotions involved), but are more unforgiving of random bonking WL, FL, ML (even though transactional, but considered "dirty"). Totally opposite from men's viewpoint :confused:

Maintaining responsibility - especially those with children - and knowing where you stand, is most important. Anything more than that, just be prepared to face the consequences.

[lilmei]

Yes. When the opportunity comes, I will.
Can I take it if my wife do the same? No. A painful revenge is just the easy part for everyone.
Unfair? Yes.
Why I do it and why I am like that? Because I'm an asshole. Idgaf.

The truth is I am quite sure I'm no different from many here.

[stoicism]

Married with kids. Still surf the occasional porn.. come sbf.. read stories posted here and fantasise. But no desire to cheat.

Have gone for happy ending massage though, not purposefully seeking them out and actually would have been okay without the extras. But so far was offered the GQ in 3 different places and of course the big head got over ruled by the small head.

[stoicism]

Cheating is not about whetherarriage is happy or not, whether needs are met or not.. sometimes it is just the desire to have yet another sexual experience with someone other than your partner/spouse.

[Rickey]

Cheating is not about whetherarriage is happy or not, whether needs are met or not.. sometimes it is just the desire to have yet another sexual experience with someone other than your partner/spouse.
Yes, totally agree with this bro... ;)

[oxeso]

Because I'm an asshole.
I'm no different from many here.
True af.
Sbf huat ah!

[morrissey1209]

Yes. When the opportunity comes, I will.
Can I take it if my wife do the same? No. A painful revenge is just the easy part for everyone.
Unfair? Yes.
Why I do it and why I am like that? Because I'm an asshole. Idgaf.

The truth is I am quite sure I'm no different from many here.

Long distance. Girl doesn't like to send nudes nor engage sex talk. Doesn't mind me look porn and PCC. Threatens me if I play around outside, she will do the same.

But how to tahan porn only. Would have preferred if she send me her pics but I don't force her. So I go ML maybe once a month or longer for HJ and sometimes BJ. Don't normally FJ because I think outside FJ no feeling (part reason is with girl got feeling, another is with girl is all raw and CIP, which I definitely won't do outside).

So yes I cheat.

[Cheesebeast]

Cheating is not about whetherarriage is happy or not, whether needs are met or not.. sometimes it is just the desire to have yet another sexual experience with someone other than your partner/spouse.

Totally agree with bro too. Some men really love their wives and children, and are dutiful husbands to their families. But they physically cheat out of lust and curiosity, especially to try new things or new people. We will always want things we dont have and desire things even more if we cannot have.

Thats why for me i want to try as much as i can before i finally settle down, even if it means marrying late. I dont want to settle down knowing that i have a lot of things i never tried and cannot by then because i am already married.

[xiasangju]

I won’t judge fellow bros as Long as they are responsible towards their families.

I will not put myself in my wife’s shoes because men and women are different

well said!!

[chaoslord]

We all know what is right and wrong from a moral perspective here.

Right - Don't cheat
Wrong - Cheat

This is elementary knowledge to anyone.

This however is a sex forum. Majority of viewers here are in the "Wrong" category. In a very narrow definition some would view even surfing this forum as a form of cheating to be pedantic.

Chiong safely and chiong wisely.

[Rickey]

Totally agree with bro too. Some men really love their wives and children, and are dutiful husbands to their families. But they physically cheat out of lust and curiosity, especially to try new things or new people. We will always want things we dont have and desire things even more if we cannot have.

Thats why for me i want to try as much as i can before i finally settle down, even if it means marrying late. I dont want to settle down knowing that i have a lot of things i never tried and cannot by then because i am already married.
Very well said and explained in detail :)

[apunene]

Cheating is not about whetherarriage is happy or not, whether needs are met or not.. sometimes it is just the desire to have yet another sexual experience with someone other than your partner/spouse.

Totally agree!!! Been tryin hard to hold myself back. Yet to cheat but afraid will happen soon...and of course, transaction ones only...

[harakiril33]

We all know what is right and wrong from a moral perspective here.

Right - Don't cheat
Wrong - Cheat

This is elementary knowledge to anyone.

This however is a sex forum. Majority of viewers here are in the "Wrong" category. In a very narrow definition some would view even surfing this forum as a form of cheating to be pedantic.

Chiong safely and chiong wisely.

Yup everyone has their unique situation. Who are we to judge

On a side note, I think the number of guys in this forum may be way more than what we think. Your nerdy colleagues, bosses may all be here lol

[Capricorn69]

Married with kids. Still surf the occasional porn.. come sbf.. read stories posted here and fantasise. But no desire to cheat.

Have gone for happy ending massage though, not purposefully seeking them out and actually would have been okay without the extras. But so far was offered the GQ in 3 different places and of course the big head got over ruled by the small head.

If the intention is to get massage and not to fuck the ML then it's not cheating :)

[zl1983]

great shares bros.

only visit occasional MP w my regular ML for massage n once a while HJ.

[178noobnoob]

I would say that i used to cheat before i got married.
My cheat does not involve sex or touching of private parts. But it still consider cheating. So anyways.
But after getting married, is just me and my right hand.
Now seldom get exercise in bed.
After married, no more cheating.
Will i be tempted to cheat again? Maybe? With so many clients are ladies and moving around, the temptation is alway there. Just have to control.

[stoicism]

If the intention is to get massage and not to fuck the ML then it's not cheating :)

I don't think the wife would see it that way.. but definitely for me it is just a sensation and an experience.. not interested in the ML at all..

The last one I had was quite nice.. didn't object to a bit of roaming..

[itguy2008]

Sorry. After reading all the posts here, could not help but confess myself.

I am married, 2 kids and I feel more like a father than a husband after married for ten years. I mean my wife is there but she is more of a mother to the kids than my wife. Why did I say so?

My kids birthday, plan two months in advance. Husband birthday, plan two hours ahead. Her birthday, she will early early tell you what present she wants. My birthday, guarantee stamp chop, it is not the celebration or present i want at all.

Meals cooked by maid, daily dinner cooked by my mother. She only try to maintain her young looks with all the cosmetics and supplements. Do we go out? Yes. With the kids. Ask her to go out alone, end up shopping for the kids or her again.

Before married, one day fuck 3 times. After married, one year can fuck three times, very lucky already lor. youngest kid is 5 years old, still sleeping between us. Why? She say he always have bad dreams.

So along the way, i had an affair with a married colleague for 2 years. That affair kept me sane and felt wanted. Left that lady for a stupid reason. I developed feelings for her. Really feel bad seeing her torn between her family and me. When we are alone in the car or hotel room or cinema, it was great. I love the feeling of her cuddling in my arms just to watch TV. Something my wife will never do. Frankly, i don't even remember when we hold hands any more.

sigh. That is why I always tell me two boys, when they grow up just date. Not point getting married and lose half your asset if you break up.

People will tell me that I got a great wife. Good looking and loving mother. However, they seem to forget, she was my wife before she is a mother. She married me to be my wife. I end up eating food cooked by my mother or my maid. I am sure my maid knows what I like to eat better than my wife.

How many brothers here are in the same shoe?

[bochapsing]

Bro, I feel u...
My story is exactly the same as u...

[YELLOW]

I feel u .... i was in worst situation... so i divorced and now happy alone again ...


Sorry. After reading all the posts here, could not help but confess myself.

I am married, 2 kids and I feel more like a father than a husband after married for ten years. I mean my wife is there but she is more of a mother to the kids than my wife. Why did I say so?

My kids birthday, plan two months in advance. Husband birthday, plan two hours ahead. Her birthday, she will early early tell you what present she wants. My birthday, guarantee stamp chop, it is not the celebration or present i want at all.

Meals cooked by maid, daily dinner cooked by my mother. She only try to maintain her young looks with all the cosmetics and supplements. Do we go out? Yes. With the kids. Ask her to go out alone, end up shopping for the kids or her again.

Before married, one day fuck 3 times. After married, one year can fuck three times, very lucky already lor. youngest kid is 5 years old, still sleeping between us. Why? She say he always have bad dreams.

So along the way, i had an affair with a married colleague for 2 years. That affair kept me sane and felt wanted. Left that lady for a stupid reason. I developed feelings for her. Really feel bad seeing her torn between her family and me. When we are alone in the car or hotel room or cinema, it was great. I love the feeling of her cuddling in my arms just to watch TV. Something my wife will never do. Frankly, i don't even remember when we hold hands any more.

sigh. That is why I always tell me two boys, when they grow up just date. Not point getting married and lose half your asset if you break up.

People will tell me that I got a great wife. Good looking and loving mother. However, they seem to forget, she was my wife before she is a mother. She married me to be my wife. I end up eating food cooked by my mother or my maid. I am sure my maid knows what I like to eat better than my wife.

How many brothers here are in the same shoe?

[Achieve]

Sorry. After reading all the posts here, could not help but confess myself.

I am married, 2 kids and I feel more like a father than a husband after married for ten years. I mean my wife is there but she is more of a mother to the kids than my wife. Why did I say so?

How many brothers here are in the same shoe?

Thank you for sharing your story bro!
Very good to warn bros of a future to avoid.
Like must tell their wives to focus on them even after having kids, or don’t have kids in the first place, or don’t get married.

[Achieve]

As per the topic of this thread.

For happily married bro, but Who still visit FL or ML for BBBJ cim missions, I know that counts as cheating, but is that really bad?

[BTech]

Curious about the status of married personnel here

1) any children

2) good or bad relation with wife

3) cheat or no cheat

4) why cheat? Why no cheat

Will be quite stunned if there are many faithful husbands here in a sex forum. On the opposite end, are there bros with good relation but still cheat

Why do you need to know?

[zl1983]

great shares bros.

[kyc2110]

Curious about the status of married personnel here

1) any children

2) good or bad relation with wife

3) cheat or no cheat

4) why cheat? Why no cheat

Will be quite stunned if there are many faithful husbands here in a sex forum. On the opposite end, are there bros with good relation but still cheat
If you are faithful then u won't be in this forum!:D

[cassanovas84]

Sorry. After reading all the posts here, could not help but confess myself.

I am married, 2 kids and I feel more like a father than a husband after married for ten years. I mean my wife is there but she is more of a mother to the kids than my wife. Why did I say so?

My kids birthday, plan two months in advance. Husband birthday, plan two hours ahead. Her birthday, she will early early tell you what present she wants. My birthday, guarantee stamp chop, it is not the celebration or present i want at all.

Meals cooked by maid, daily dinner cooked by my mother. She only try to maintain her young looks with all the cosmetics and supplements. Do we go out? Yes. With the kids. Ask her to go out alone, end up shopping for the kids or her again.

Before married, one day fuck 3 times. After married, one year can fuck three times, very lucky already lor. youngest kid is 5 years old, still sleeping between us. Why? She say he always have bad dreams.

So along the way, i had an affair with a married colleague for 2 years. That affair kept me sane and felt wanted. Left that lady for a stupid reason. I developed feelings for her. Really feel bad seeing her torn between her family and me. When we are alone in the car or hotel room or cinema, it was great. I love the feeling of her cuddling in my arms just to watch TV. Something my wife will never do. Frankly, i don't even remember when we hold hands any more.

sigh. That is why I always tell me two boys, when they grow up just date. Not point getting married and lose half your asset if you break up.

People will tell me that I got a great wife. Good looking and loving mother. However, they seem to forget, she was my wife before she is a mother. She married me to be my wife. I end up eating food cooked by my mother or my maid. I am sure my maid knows what I like to eat better than my wife.

How many brothers here are in the same shoe?


I FEEL YOUR PAIN BRO

[Hanster]

Sorry. After reading all the posts here, could not help but confess myself.



So along the way, i had an affair with a married colleague for 2 years.

?

TS was asking how many were unfaithful here. So despite your sorrowful story, you are still unfaithful ! :p

[bignehneh]

Sorry. After reading all the posts here, could not help but confess myself.

I am married, 2 kids and I feel more like a father than a husband after married for ten years. I mean my wife is there but she is more of a mother to the kids than my wife. Why did I say so?

My kids birthday, plan two months in advance. Husband birthday, plan two hours ahead. Her birthday, she will early early tell you what present she wants. My birthday, guarantee stamp chop, it is not the celebration or present i want at all.

Meals cooked by maid, daily dinner cooked by my mother. She only try to maintain her young looks with all the cosmetics and supplements. Do we go out? Yes. With the kids. Ask her to go out alone, end up shopping for the kids or her again.

Before married, one day fuck 3 times. After married, one year can fuck three times, very lucky already lor. youngest kid is 5 years old, still sleeping between us. Why? She say he always have bad dreams.

So along the way, i had an affair with a married colleague for 2 years. That affair kept me sane and felt wanted. Left that lady for a stupid reason. I developed feelings for her. Really feel bad seeing her torn between her family and me. When we are alone in the car or hotel room or cinema, it was great. I love the feeling of her cuddling in my arms just to watch TV. Something my wife will never do. Frankly, i don't even remember when we hold hands any more.

sigh. That is why I always tell me two boys, when they grow up just date. Not point getting married and lose half your asset if you break up.

People will tell me that I got a great wife. Good looking and loving mother. However, they seem to forget, she was my wife before she is a mother. She married me to be my wife. I end up eating food cooked by my mother or my maid. I am sure my maid knows what I like to eat better than my wife.

How many brothers here are in the same shoe?

I feel u bro. That is painful. Looking at the bright side, at least she is not fucking behind your back just like you are fucking other ppl’s wife. Personally, I think women lose their sex drive once they have kids. Some of my lady friends picked up their sex life back but it is with other men. Maybe it is because of the various arguement and conflict during childbirth and bringing up of the child?

[Ghostsquad]

I saw this topic and thought it was interesting so I am sharing my short story here

I already knew and browsed the forums when i was 17. Back then I was still naive and thought it was unethical to be going for paid sex.

I am quite an introvert. I am a very average joe you see every day that most of the opposite sex won't turn to take a second look. Did not have any rs with any girl even when I was in my mid 20s.

So one day I decided to just lose my first time to a FL and the path of no return begins there.

I did not regret walking this path as I fulfilled a lot of fantasies which I wouldn’t have. Some senior bro even told me that after chiong long time, you will not want to chiong any more.

Currently, I am married with no kids. My wife and I never had sex while we were dating. My wife is definitely a head turner with a sexy body… It is only after we got married that I discovered that she has very low sex drive and could do even without it. Myself being one who can and wants to have sex every day is caught in a dilemma. I actually do not want to go down this path again after I got married. However, trying to suppress the urge has made it worse. We had several arguments that almost led to a divorce. I do love her and wanted to maintain the marriage. But after walking this path again to suppress the urge, I felt less aggressive towards things and our marriage actually turned out better..

If you asked me, yes indeed I am guilty of being unfaithful.

I guess sometimes in life, not everything can be perfect. I just wondered how long this will last until one day the cat is out of the bag.

I even wandered if it would be better if I had a FB or FwB that is facing the same with me?

[ajiaji]

A KTV girl once told me, "结了婚的男人可以出来玩，可是要记得回家应为有老婆，孩子在等你!"

[randily]

Sorry. After reading all the posts here, could not help but confess myself.

I am married, 2 kids and I feel more like a father than a husband after married for ten years. I mean my wife is there but she is more of a mother to the kids than my wife. Why did I say so?

My kids birthday, plan two months in advance. Husband birthday, plan two hours ahead. Her birthday, she will early early tell you what present she wants. My birthday, guarantee stamp chop, it is not the celebration or present i want at all.

Meals cooked by maid, daily dinner cooked by my mother. She only try to maintain her young looks with all the cosmetics and supplements. Do we go out? Yes. With the kids. Ask her to go out alone, end up shopping for the kids or her again.

Before married, one day fuck 3 times. After married, one year can fuck three times, very lucky already lor. youngest kid is 5 years old, still sleeping between us. Why? She say he always have bad dreams.

So along the way, i had an affair with a married colleague for 2 years. That affair kept me sane and felt wanted. Left that lady for a stupid reason. I developed feelings for her. Really feel bad seeing her torn between her family and me. When we are alone in the car or hotel room or cinema, it was great. I love the feeling of her cuddling in my arms just to watch TV. Something my wife will never do. Frankly, i don't even remember when we hold hands any more.

sigh. That is why I always tell me two boys, when they grow up just date. Not point getting married and lose half your asset if you break up.

People will tell me that I got a great wife. Good looking and loving mother. However, they seem to forget, she was my wife before she is a mother. She married me to be my wife. I end up eating food cooked by my mother or my maid. I am sure my maid knows what I like to eat better than my wife.

How many brothers here are in the same shoe?

I feel you bro..

My wife excel in her role as a daughter even after marriage..

She sucks at being a DIL, think I must Google for her to learn.

Sometimes I wonder why the hell she agree to marry me for..
:confused:

[morrissey1209]

I feel you bro..

My wife excel in her role as a daughter even after marriage..

She sucks at being a DIL, think I must Google for her to learn.

Sometimes I wonder why the hell she agree to marry me for..
:confused:

I think the ambition of girls is just to get married because they think they are supposed to. Maybe men are just a means to an end.

[Silentreader88]

I silently confessed that I cheated on my wife":D

[ceeko]

Had 2 married MILFs with kids that cheated on their husbands with ME.

One allowed raw anal.

The other one..... emptied my sperm bags every 2 days or so.

[itguy2008]

TS was asking how many were unfaithful here. So despite your sorrowful story, you are still unfaithful ! :p

I agree. I am unfaithful. Is a wife forgetting her role as a wife considered as faithful to start off with?

She already broke her marriage vow. Recite your vows and you will know what I mean.

I am not saying I am right. I know I am in the wrong. The choice is like, I can live in hell and be in wrong. Or I can be in the wrong and try to live a happier life by cheating.

Imagine a day, you get f**k in office by your customer then your boss. Come home, she does not even want to care. If she bother to listen to you, she still say you are wrong cos you are always useless. Like see who and who's husband, they are buying their retirement properties in Australia already.

You will say then divorce her right? How about the two boys? Do they deserve that?

[Rickey]

Cool down bro...i empathise with u...know u r angry with yr wife...it's very heart breaking to know yr wife sees u in such a bad light instead of supporting n consoling u do the opposite...our male and husband ego is badly hurt...but they never realise this...most of these wifeys r like that, esp when they r angry and when things don't turn out well for u, herself or her family...it's sad but there's nothing much u can do abt it unless u want to consider D...just go out n find other ways to keep yrself happy, if u know wat i mean...life is too short to wallow in anger n self pity...live life to the fullest in your own way if she doesn't wanna love you anymore

[ceandy]

Myself, I have a steady GF whom I plan to settle down with in future, but currently also have 1 FB and occasionally go for paid sex. Always tell myself that all these will stop once we get married but I seriously doubt myself.

[soccernet]

Support.. Life goes on.. Just don't do silly silly things.
Gotta be positive .
Cool down bro...i empathise with u...know u r angry with yr wife...it's very heart breaking to know yr wife sees u in such a bad light instead of supporting n consoling u do the opposite...our male and husband ego is badly hurt...but they never realise this...most of these wifeys r like that, esp when they r angry and when things don't turn out well for u, herself or her family...it's sad but there's nothing much u can do abt it unless u want to consider D...just go out n find other ways to keep yrself happy, if u know wat i mean...life is too short to wallow in anger n self pity...live life to the fullest in your own way if she doesn't wanna love you anymore

[sex crusader]

I agree. I am unfaithful. Is a wife forgetting her role as a wife considered as faithful to start off with?

She already broke her marriage vow. Recite your vows and you will know what I mean.

I am not saying I am right. I know I am in the wrong. The choice is like, I can live in hell and be in wrong. Or I can be in the wrong and try to live a happier life by cheating.

Imagine a day, you get f**k in office by your customer then your boss. Come home, she does not even want to care. If she bother to listen to you, she still say you are wrong cos you are always useless. Like see who and who's husband, they are buying their retirement properties in Australia already.

You will say then divorce her right? How about the two boys? Do they deserve that?
Unfaithfulness means she cheated on you. Did she? As far as I am concerned, she has done everything for your family except on you! But then again, that was your expectations and not hers. Just my two cents.:)

[MisterBig]

Myself, I have a steady GF whom I plan to settle down with in future, but currently also have 1 FB and occasionally go for paid sex. Always tell myself that all these will stop once we get married but I seriously doubt myself.

Was like you. Had quite a lot of FBs while with gf (now wife), but not into paid sex. And that didn't stop till this day. And that's after nearly 20 years and having 2 kids.

And the marriage is still going strong. But one advice... you really, really need to know when and where to stop. And know where you belong... make sure you serve your woman well first before you eat out.

[Continental]

Misterbig, what if your wife find out? How would she feel? Have you considered that?

[afterburn]

A KTV girl once told me, "结了婚的男人可以出来玩，可是要记得回家应为有老婆，孩子在等你!"


So true, and sincerely professional. No fake kc to lead you along, and make it clear you are just paying for a service.

In my case, when suggesting to go out together, was gently rebuffed with a 我不要打破人家的家庭 ... ouch!

[harakiril33]

家家有本难念的经
Great shares bros.. realise that many are on similar boat. You're not alone

[harakiril33]

PCC 3x today. Saved some $$ n kept a clean record. Hope this can last :(

[rahl]

In a happy marriage with no kids 10+ years. Great relationship with wife, the very little conflict type.

I have no wish for a relationship with another woman. Knowing what a relationship is, I know having another woman is tough, complicated and will screw up what I have.

Sexual relationship? I am open :) I go for massages with specials. Lying in bed with a naked pretty babe who services you like a GF - that experience is a thrill and pleasure I can't find in marriage.

I always feel guilty immediately afterwards and will think not to go again. But the itch will slowly build till I pick up the phone...

[Continental]

In a happy marriage with no kids 10+ years. Great relationship with wife, the very little conflict type.

I have no wish for a relationship with another woman. Knowing what a relationship is, I know having another woman is tough, complicated and will screw up what I have.

Sexual relationship? I am open :) I go for massages with specials. Lying in bed with a naked pretty babe who services you like a GF - that experience is a thrill and pleasure I can't find in marriage.

I always feel guilty immediately afterwards and will think not to go again. But the itch will slowly build till I pick up the phone...
But aren't you betraying your good wife behind her back brother ? By going to massage ladies with specials aren't you also complicating your relationship with your wife as well and screw it up ? You are alright with that ? By saying you feel guilty going to massage ladies, there is bound to be some adverse connection to your relationship with your good wife. No ?

[mav150970]

Sorry. After reading all the posts here, could not help but confess myself.

I am married, 2 kids and I feel more like a father than a husband after married for ten years. I mean my wife is there but she is more of a mother to the kids than my wife. Why did I say so?

My kids birthday, plan two months in advance. Husband birthday, plan two hours ahead. Her birthday, she will early early tell you what present she wants. My birthday, guarantee stamp chop, it is not the celebration or present i want at all.

Meals cooked by maid, daily dinner cooked by my mother. She only try to maintain her young looks with all the cosmetics and supplements. Do we go out? Yes. With the kids. Ask her to go out alone, end up shopping for the kids or her again.

Before married, one day fuck 3 times. After married, one year can fuck three times, very lucky already lor. youngest kid is 5 years old, still sleeping between us. Why? She say he always have bad dreams.

So along the way, i had an affair with a married colleague for 2 years. That affair kept me sane and felt wanted. Left that lady for a stupid reason. I developed feelings for her. Really feel bad seeing her torn between her family and me. When we are alone in the car or hotel room or cinema, it was great. I love the feeling of her cuddling in my arms just to watch TV. Something my wife will never do. Frankly, i don't even remember when we hold hands any more.

sigh. That is why I always tell me two boys, when they grow up just date. Not point getting married and lose half your asset if you break up.

People will tell me that I got a great wife. Good looking and loving mother. However, they seem to forget, she was my wife before she is a mother. She married me to be my wife. I end up eating food cooked by my mother or my maid. I am sure my maid knows what I like to eat better than my wife.

How many brothers here are in the same shoe?

Hi Bro, you are more fortunate. At least your wife celebrates your birthday. Mine has long forgotten. So I also begin to forget hers. But her birthday damn suay. It falls on the fateful day of 9 11. So how not to forget. Its so big in the news.
At least you have wife who love you. Mine loves her bloody rabbits more than her family. Even my son and me dont get the VIP treatment that her rabbit does. Everytime I come home to a mini zoo.
I go for prostrate massage is also consider cheating to her. She says once I let other woman touch my dick is already cheating her. One word of advice. Never leave your handphone lying around. Your wife will always have ways of accessing your phone. Best dont have face lock. She can unlock with your face when you are sleeping. Always keep your handphone with you if you have secrets. Lol.
Now she uses my child as a threat to force me out of my home.
So be glad that you have not been caught yet. But be cautious cos somehow they know if you are cheating on them. It always happens. Only men are cuckold when their wives cheat.

[itguy2008]

Hi Bro, you are more fortunate. At least your wife celebrates your birthday. Mine has long forgotten. So I also begin to forget hers. But her birthday damn suay. It falls on the fateful day of 9 11. So how not to forget. Its so big in the news.
At least you have wife who love you. Mine loves her bloody rabbits more than her family. Even my son and me dont get the VIP treatment that her rabbit does. Everytime I come home to a mini zoo.
I go for prostrate massage is also consider cheating to her. She says once I let other woman touch my dick is already cheating her. One word of advice. Never leave your handphone lying around. Your wife will always have ways of accessing your phone. Best dont have face lock. She can unlock with your face when you are sleeping. Always keep your handphone with you if you have secrets. Lol.
Now she uses my child as a threat to force me out of my home.
So be glad that you have not been caught yet. But be cautious cos somehow they know if you are cheating on them. It always happens. Only men are cuckold when their wives cheat.

Thanks for the advise. I am not sure if my wife loves me. It is more like a show I feel. For her face.

I kenna caught already lor. Twice. Once by wife, once by my affair's husband. One damn sian. One damn exciting. hahaha.

[Latte]

Bwahahaha... exactly the same like mine. And i mean EXACTLY.

Used to feel guilty until cannot tahan anymore. How to have zero sex in a marriage and started dating maids since 2013. Then it all ended in 2018 when i feel guilty again and wanted to build back my marriage. But as the saying, 一个巴掌拍不响。ended up machiam beg and beg still no attention given. I got to settle my meals, sole breadwinner so got to bring money home. Zero sex. I think these 3 combo is more than enough than i can take. No emotional and no physical support.

Then i started dating malaysian chinese in 2019. After the first one whom is also LSD, decided to try out SA and got another one in JB. Fucked every week until Covid-19 came and we are all stucked. No money how to play. Somemore cannot go weekly JB anymore.

Now fighting back on finance first before getting another FB again. I have gone from guilty to “don’t give a fuck” nowadays.

Caught a few times already when her friend send my face from dating apps to her. But i brush it off saying scammers use my face. Ask ur friend talk to him to verify lorr...


Sorry. After reading all the posts here, could not help but confess myself.

I am married, 2 kids and I feel more like a father than a husband after married for ten years. I mean my wife is there but she is more of a mother to the kids than my wife. Why did I say so?

My kids birthday, plan two months in advance. Husband birthday, plan two hours ahead. Her birthday, she will early early tell you what present she wants. My birthday, guarantee stamp chop, it is not the celebration or present i want at all.

Meals cooked by maid, daily dinner cooked by my mother. She only try to maintain her young looks with all the cosmetics and supplements. Do we go out? Yes. With the kids. Ask her to go out alone, end up shopping for the kids or her again.

Before married, one day fuck 3 times. After married, one year can fuck three times, very lucky already lor. youngest kid is 5 years old, still sleeping between us. Why? She say he always have bad dreams.

So along the way, i had an affair with a married colleague for 2 years. That affair kept me sane and felt wanted. Left that lady for a stupid reason. I developed feelings for her. Really feel bad seeing her torn between her family and me. When we are alone in the car or hotel room or cinema, it was great. I love the feeling of her cuddling in my arms just to watch TV. Something my wife will never do. Frankly, i don't even remember when we hold hands any more.

sigh. That is why I always tell me two boys, when they grow up just date. Not point getting married and lose half your asset if you break up.

People will tell me that I got a great wife. Good looking and loving mother. However, they seem to forget, she was my wife before she is a mother. She married me to be my wife. I end up eating food cooked by my mother or my maid. I am sure my maid knows what I like to eat better than my wife.

How many brothers here are in the same shoe?

[Rickey]

Omg!!... bros's wives here r so fierce n jialat one... treat their husbands so badly.. don't care abt their husbands n just think of themselves only... if like that better don't marry better stay single.. no wonder so many husbands hv to eat out or divorce...

[Massagelover82]

In a happy marriage with no kids 10+ years. Great relationship with wife, the very little conflict type.

I have no wish for a relationship with another woman. Knowing what a relationship is, I know having another woman is tough, complicated and will screw up what I have.

Sexual relationship? I am open :) I go for massages with specials. Lying in bed with a naked pretty babe who services you like a GF - that experience is a thrill and pleasure I can't find in marriage.

I always feel guilty immediately afterwards and will think not to go again. But the itch will slowly build till I pick up the phone...

Exact same position for me...

[Continental]

If you are faithful then u won't be in this forum!:D
Yes, can't agree more with this brother !

[rahl]

But aren't you betraying your good wife behind her back brother ? By going to massage ladies with specials aren't you also complicating your relationship with your wife as well and screw it up ? You are alright with that ? By saying you feel guilty going to massage ladies, there is bound to be some adverse connection to your relationship with your good wife. No ?

Of course I'm not painting myself to be a saint or there is no risk. Just to point out you don't have to be unhappy in a marriage to cheong.

[Continental]

Of course I'm not painting myself to be a saint or there is no risk. Just to point out you don't have to be unhappy in a marriage to cheong.
Thank you for your clarification brother. Agreed, but the purpose of cheonging for most brothers is to relieve the unhappiness of their marriage but in your case you said you have a happy marriage, still cheong ?

[rahl]

Thank you for your clarification brother. Agreed, but the purpose of cheonging for most brothers is to relieve the unhappiness of their marriage but in your case you said you have a happy marriage, still cheong ?

Look at it this way, if you are earning a good salary, you try to earn more; if you are happy, you want to be happier.

[afterburn]

Look at it this way, if you are earning a good salary, you try to earn more; if you are happy, you want to be happier.

LOL ... right. There are different facets of happiness. Family makes your big head happy and contented. Chionging other ladies outside make the small head happy and satisfied. Best of both worlds, until one fine day get caught lah :eek:

[sgjoey]

Curious about the status of married personnel here

1) any children

2) good or bad relation with wife

3) cheat or no cheat

4) why cheat? Why no cheat

Will be quite stunned if there are many faithful husbands here in a sex forum. On the opposite end, are there bros with good relation but still cheat


Only one life. So why not try to live your dream so long as you do not hurt others?

Married for many years already, but after the first 15 years or so, the quality and frequency of sex headed south. So I decided to outsource. Affairs are out because of emotional complications. But plenty of sex workers available locally at reasonable pricing, especially those from Thailand and China. Took the plunge and never looked back, and I can tell you I had very many memorable experiences of outstanding sex with quite a few of them.

The ladies are young, willing, able and mostly fairly good looking. When I find one that clicks, I tend to stick with her until she returns. Initially, they were mostly Thais but these ladies are only here for short stints, though sometimes they make repeated visits. Nowadays I prefer the China girls because their stints are longer and language is less of a problem despite my poor command of Mandarin. I must say that over the years with repeated motivated practice, my fluency has much improved.

The current China girl I visit is a real gem - young, pretty and willing to serve and to try different stuff. Am having the best sex I have ever had in my whole life. She seems to enjoy it too, and never fails to squirt whether I use my fingers or lap her up. We even eat meals together during the limited time we have together. She doesn't bother about time when there are no other customers in the next few slots, but alas, I am always the one who ask to leave because I cannot be away from home for too long. Of cos I never fail to tip her an extra 20%, but it's still dirt cheap for the joy I get from being with her.

Over the years I have had very many great experiences, and very, very few really bad ones. Generally, I find these ladies are like other ordinary humans. I am growing older by the year and don't know how long I can continue to indulge. What I do resolve is to keep on with this as long as I can because as said...only one life to live, so I will live it on my own terms. Our conventional values do not work for me.

[MisterBig]

Yesterday, my regular FB ask to meet today. But told her this morning better not meet, with all these contract tracing going on. And she's cool with it. We've been together for 10 years... but took a break for a 2-3 years when we got married (not to each other of cos). For some reason, we always go back to each other but we never talk about getting into a relationship even from day 1.

I can't say it's complicated because it's very simple between us. We know each other have our own lives (and families). So it's purely sexual and its good. I mean.. we wouldn't continue if it's bad, right? And we both have our families. Mine is good... and I think she's is good. But we never really talk about it.

Besides her, I do have others as well... more on/off. Both married and single. 20+ to 40+. But all know I'm happily married. And all know I have a limit to what I can give. And all is ok before we do it. And it's also important to respect their boundaries.

But I can say... it's not just the guys. Ladies as well. And thru' experience found that they are totally different when they are with me vs when they are with their hubbies. Part of it is because I think they have an image in front of their hubbies... of a goody-goody gal and they don't want to spoil it. So that's why I treat my wife damn well and make sure she is well fed before eating out.

Let's not get into any moral lesson here. Everyone sin one way or another. I'm not proud of this pile of sin. But I can't explain why I do it. Maybe the most simple way is to say... Hunters hunt. Right?

[sxem]

No point getting married from what I can see here.

Everyone is just trying to mentally masturbate themselves into thinking they somehow made a rational and reasonable choice when they chose to get married.

In any case, i wish all husbands here the best.

[rahl]

No point getting married from what I can see here.

Everyone is just trying to mentally masturbate themselves into thinking they somehow made a rational and reasonable choice when they chose to get married.

In any case, i wish all husbands here the best.

You may not understand but getting married was the best thing I did.

[Continental]

You may not understand but getting married was the best thing I did.
It is to taste and enjoy the best of both worlds for both husbands and wives who cheats. Why restrict yourself to only one partner and miss out all the fun another partner can give you ?

[Nic1234]

Men cheat to stay in marriage, women cheat to get out of marriage. Anybody heard of this saying?

[Continental]

Men cheat to stay in marriage, women cheat to get out of marriage. Anybody heard of this saying?
I agree somewhat with what this brother said. Husbands cheat to enjoy additional food from outside besides wanting to enjoy their own home cook food, wanting the best of both worlds so to speak. Though largely the same as husbands, wives also want to cheat to enjoy the best of both worlds too for as long as they can without each other knowing of course. That is basic human nature. But herein lies the slight difference.

In addition, when wives cheat, in their inner heart and at the back of their minds, they also have a desire to leave the marriage if only they could and is possible if not held back by things like children or other complicated family issues esp those who already have lovers outside who they are meeting often and regularly and are enjoying their company and attention very much, much more than what their husbands are giving them at home and who also don't seem to care about them or their needs anymore esp after childbirth.

To them it is a marriage that has lost its sparkle, so why not if conditions are right to leave their husband to be with the new man in their life who they have managed to find from outside their home from among current or ex friends or colleagues they met before, guys who brighten up their lives daily and who they are enjoying very much with on the quiet and who can also satisfy their needs and desires much more than their husband can esp if he is richer and more loaded than her husband. So if the wife's husband don't initiate the divorce when he finds out her infidelity to him, her lover who really wants to own and possess her for himself, might instigate her to do so herself to leave her husband as soon as possible to enjoy life together with him for good since he can afford to provide for her

[eatingpussy]

A friend sent this to me, its a post from his friend fb post
"" Many people often wonder.. why other ladies out there dress up nicer and better than their wife. Why other woman are more gentle than the tigeress managing home waiting for their man. Often we care so much for our partner, home and put ours interest at last. Not because wife do not know how to dress up. But she put her whole heartedly into family, thinking day to day to meet the ends.
I happy that I’m out of this. I able to spend more time taking care of myself to make me a better confident woman now.""
After divorce suddenly got time to look sfter themselves? So the children all die already no need to look after them? No need to clean the house, when married at least husband still have to help out abit of housework. Now suddenly got so much time after divorced? Up to individuals to defend themselves.

[duckwarriors]

You may not understand but getting married was the best thing I did.

You could be the 0.001%, congrats bro!! :D

[bignehneh]

Some real cases I hear from my friends. A lot of failed cases is about no sex from wife. But many ppl forget:

1. Men usually concentrate on job and sex. Earn $$ then want pretty wife to fuck with good sex

2. Women. Need to handle work, kids, cooking, housework, in laws, Teachers and so many problem. Usually they will be shag. At night u tell them that you need BJ, want to bath together and do anal, a bit difficult lei.

Actually best is about balance tasks. Just like work, if 1 worker is doing much more than the rest. What can we expect?

[HonkyTonkyMan]

if got hair who want to be botak?:p

no choice for me i cheong in the past and only last few years stop partly also money no enough and also age catching up...but i dun want to bother on all the qns of whether right or wrong...i only know I ONLY LIVE ONCE..:o

[HonkyTonkyMan]

Men cheat to stay in marriage, women cheat to get out of marriage. Anybody heard of this saying?

Yes so happened to chance on this video on YouTube from the sex therapist "No sex marriage - Masturbation, loneliness, cheating and shame - Maureen McGrath..

Very refreshing to hear a woman talk about this subject without a bias view.

[harakiril33]

When life gets busy, less time for SBF, less time to cheat :D

[Rickey]

When life gets busy, less time for SBF, less time to cheat :D
Technically correct to say..but how does life gets busier at such a time ??...with this SHA or SHN and restrictions n so on ??...if so bro, r u ok ??..how can life be busier than b4 staying at home the whole day compared to last time when we hv to move abt and do so many things for ourselves n our family ??...there's so many things we can't do out of the home now that we used to do :(...cannot do this, cannot do that :(

in fact now many of us r having a lot of free time, n feel so bored n dunno wat to do aft doing the basics for the home...less time for SBF ??.. shdn't be but dunno why it is true ?? :eek:..many hv disappeared from the forum n not posting actively as b4...less time to cheat ??...yes, maybe for most but not very much diff ! ;):o.. still got some small tiny loopholes for them to meet if they r really in urge n need for each other in each other's homes..i.e. if available :p..hehe

[stoicism]

Some real cases I hear from my friends. A lot of failed cases is about no sex from wife. But many ppl forget:

1. Men usually concentrate on job and sex. Earn $$ then want pretty wife to fuck with good sex

2. Women. Need to handle work, kids, cooking, housework, in laws, Teachers and so many problem. Usually they will be shag. At night u tell them that you need BJ, want to bath together and do anal, a bit difficult lei.

Actually best is about balance tasks. Just like work, if 1 worker is doing much more than the rest. What can we expect?

I guess that's why you need at least 2 wives. Split the duties.. one look after kids.. one to pleasure you at night.

[Jasonboi]

Maybe if husband also help with housework and kids, then wife got more energy to bonk?

[GN007SG]

I guess that's why you need at least 2 wives. Split the duties.. one look after kids.. one to pleasure you at night.

Sounds more like you need a wife and a maid

[stoicism]

Sounds more like you need a wife and a maid

Can also.. might be cheaper.. question is, which one do you sleep with.. hahah.

[Continental]

Can also.. might be cheaper.. question is, which one do you sleep with.. hahah.

If your wife don't want to sleep with you then you can sleep with your maid

[Continental]

Maybe if husband also help with housework and kids, then wife got more energy to bonk?
No, don't think so. Most will say she needs the time to rest and recuperate so cannot have sex with you and with the energy gained does her own personal thing like chatting with her friends, going out dinner or shopping with them then come home late and say I m tired already husband don't disturb me for sex, ok?

[zl1983]

Can also.. might be cheaper.. question is, which one do you sleep with.. hahah.

If your wife don't want to sleep with you then you can sleep with your maid

well said bros.
lolx

[zl1983]

I feel you bro..

My wife excel in her role as a daughter even after marriage..

She sucks at being a DIL, think I must Google for her to learn.

Sometimes I wonder why the hell she agree to marry me for..
:confused:

i feel u bro.
in a similar situation as u too.

[Gamerboy]

Having mixed feelings after reading through all the posts so far.

On one hand, some say they cheat cos they’re unhappy with the wife, the marriage, the circumstances etc hence look to getting happiness and pleasure outside. This, I can understand cos if we’re not living the life we want, we should find ways and means (can be correct or wrong behaviour, to each their own) to ‘improve’ the situation and try to derive some enjoyment in our otherwise mundane lives.

On the other hand, some say they are happily married with lovely pretty wives etc but still cheat cos, why not? So this also means that even if there are no marital problems, life is ‘perfect’, wife is perfect, we will still need that something extra extra to spice it up.

So conclusion, if a person wants to cheat, they will cheat, no matter what their partner does or does not do.

I guess unless people are completely aligned in their expectations and moral values (or lack thereoff), there will always be an imbalance in the relationship. Makes me kinda sad thinking about it.

[junmin95]

a once good friend tell me this:

if a person sick already, will see doctor.
if mentally ill already, will see psychologist.
if deprive of sex, will find prostitute.

these are but just human nature. Whereas marriage itself is a social construct, bounded by just the society and norms in which you live in. If you don't want to feel guilty, think of it this way. Finding ML & massage is just finding professional service, no different from sick people find doctor or mental ill find psychologist. If you find prostitute for FL means you just have a heavier case of sex deprivation so no point feeling guilty or think it's cheating.

So where is the line that one should not cross. Well I humbly believe the following:


If you fall in love with other women, be it KC trap or fwb, please divorce. Don't harm your wife. Let her be free.
Don't shit where you eat. This means no sexual/romantic relationship with your in-law side, your wife friends, your colleagues/bosses/clients and most importantly your domestic helper. This is a no-go zone.
If you chiong or do any std-risky activity, then always go for checkup or do the necessary protection. Don't harm your family.

[expatamerican]

Yes, cheated on wife and every girlfriend since. I finally accept myself as I am and admit I am not ever going to restrict myself to fucking one woman. I finally found someone who understands that and loves me 100% anyway. So now I fuck freely and come home to a giving woman who will do anything to please me. Its the first time I feel totally myself in a relationship and have 100% honesty with my GF. And her acceptance of me makes me love her more than anything and I will never leave her.

[Rickey]

To expatamerican > Congrats...good for u...most guys here would envy u...wat a rare find indeed !

[afterburn]

So where is the line that one should not cross. Well I humbly believe the following:


If you fall in love with other women, be it KC trap or fwb, please divorce. Don't harm your wife. Let her be free.
Don't shit where you eat. This means no sexual/romantic relationship with your in-law side, your wife friends, your colleagues/bosses/clients and most importantly your domestic helper. This is a no-go zone.
If you chiong or do any std-risky activity, then always go for checkup or do the necessary protection. Don't harm your family.


Agreed. Those are the rules that separate between safe, healthy, recreational chionging and a slippery slope to self-destruction :D

[harakiril33]

Now really stay at home, no cheong no cheat. Think with big head

[thedevil666]

To fence sitters on infidelity, don't start one if u haven't been involved in one.

Whether u are in a happy or unhappy marriage.

It is addictive. Once you have the first one, u will keep finding. It is hard to reset life and earn back the trust of your partner. You really need a complete reset of your love life (divorce) to reset yourself.

Speaking from experience.

If you are really unhappy with your marriage life, just divorce first.

If it is about sex life, but you are still happy with your wife, just find a ML and jerk u off regularly.

[rahl]

To fence sitters on infidelity, don't start one if u haven't been involved in one.

Whether u are in a happy or unhappy marriage.

It is addictive. Once you have the first one, u will keep finding. It is hard to reset life and earn back the trust of your partner. You really need a complete reset of your love life (divorce) to reset yourself.

Speaking from experience.

If you are really unhappy with your marriage life, just divorce first.

If it is about sex life, but you are still happy with your wife, just find a ML and jerk u off regularly.

Don't have your experience bro but totally agreed. Emotional hell is far worse than sexual gratification.

[Continental]

To fence sitters on infidelity, don't start one if u haven't been involved in one.

If it is about sex life, but you are still happy with your wife, just find a ML and jerk u off regularly.
This is another form or way of cheating, is it not in my humble opinion. The lesser of the two evils. Anything sexual that involves another woman the wife does not know about or done behind her back or vice versa in the case of a wife to her husband is cheating if i am not wrong.

[harakiril33]

Circuit breaker n wife is driving me nuts

[BTech]

Circuit breaker n wife is driving me nuts

In a good way.... i hope.

[thedevil666]

This is another form or way of cheating, is it not in my humble opinion. The lesser of the two evils. Anything sexual that involves another woman the wife does not know about or done behind her back or vice versa in the case of a wife to her husband is cheating if i am not wrong.

yes, it is still cheating. from a guy pov, receiving a hj has no emotional attachment. it is less "addictive". imo, it is easier to get out of a hj massage parlor than to get out of a relationship with another girl. whether it is a mistress, SB, FB or even ONS, it is pretty tempting to keep having another girl when the previous one ends. it is a vicious cycle.

and ask any girl, it is more likely that they will forgive if it is a paid sex. when they know they have lost u in your heart, then confirm gg.

[boboriz]

Based on my experience in having affair or 1 night stand it thrilling as you are trying
New pussy to bang with. But after doing it for years karma hit me hard till I fell hard take me years to be back to where I am now.yes you can fuck here and there but to a point where you gonna lose your wife and kid it a teribble road no one can bear the pain.
Like what was advised to me. We can cheat our wife but we can't cheat our God
Karma only waiting for right time to strike.i hope my post did not hurt any bros feeling just sharing what I been thru lost 17 years of marriage and the worst is losing your kid

[thedevil666]

Based on my experience in having affair or 1 night stand it thrilling as you are trying
New pussy to bang with. But after doing it for years karma hit me hard till I fell hard take me years to be back to where I am now.yes you can fuck here and there but to a point where you gonna lose your wife and kid it a teribble road no one can bear the pain.
Like what was advised to me. We can cheat our wife but we can't cheat our God
Karma only waiting for right time to strike.i hope my post did not hurt any bros feeling just sharing what I been thru lost 17 years of marriage and the worst is losing your kid

i don't have a kid. but i know the feeling of losing "everything" u hold dear to yourself. feel u bro.

[Continental]

yes, it is still cheating. from a guy pov, receiving a hj has no emotional attachment. it is less "addictive". imo, it is easier to get out of a hj massage parlor than to get out of a relationship with another girl. whether it is a mistress, SB, FB or even ONS, it is pretty tempting to keep having another girl when the previous one ends. it is a vicious cycle.

and ask any girl, it is more likely that they will forgive if it is a paid sex. when they know they have lost u in your heart, then confirm gg.
Thanks for agreeing brother that so long as the other partner doesn't know, it is still cheating for as long as any kind of sex is involved, like you mentioned FBs, SBs or SDs, ONS, FLs, WLs and so on and so forth. Agree with you that FLs and WLs are easier to detach as they are one time paid transactions, the lesser of the two evils for guys than maybe FBs for both sexes especially FBs involves quite an emotional and love attachment with each other over an extended period of time. Sad to know that they still carry on their illicit relationships nonetheless not caring if it is fair to their partner or not. Of course, for those who have lost each other's heart as you say is best to divorce.

[curious11]

bros and sister on this thread. stumbled upon here and am also in sort of a blurry situation at the moment.

left my ex company years ago and since then, have always kept in touch with one female colleague via text or casual meetup occasionally. so we’ve been chatting on almost a daily basis, but sometimes if we’re really caught up, then we both will try and catch up via text message.

as mentioned this has gone on for years and both of us are married with kids. it’s like we are each our confidantes where we share our closest thing - sexual / non sexual, our grievances with our possible when available and everything else under the sun. for a fact though, we do know each other’s spouses but not that close though.

to be honest, on my side i do have a liking for her but of course the chances of any ‘affair’ happening is low we both of us have kids and our own commitments. now a kind sister here has advised me that no lady would be chatting so long and share secrets with a guy if it’s just a ‘normal’ friend but till date i haven’t got the courage to broach this topic with ex colleague.

for the experienced bro and sis here, what would your take be on this situation and what kind of a relationship would you categorised this in your honest opinion? affair? or just casual r/s between 2 long terms friends? or anything else u feel is happening in this situation since were all affected by this CB.

[myluckyguy]

Everyday eat prawns sometimes must have fish .

Government encourage everyone to venture overseas and gain more experience :D We must continuously learn new skills and experience to be ready for the future :D

[zl1983]

bros and sister on this thread. stumbled upon here and am also in sort of a blurry situation at the moment.

left my ex company years ago and since then, have always kept in touch with one female colleague via text or casual meetup occasionally. so we’ve been chatting on almost a daily basis, but sometimes if we’re really caught up, then we both will try and catch up via text message.

as mentioned this has gone on for years and both of us are married with kids. it’s like we are each our confidantes where we share our closest thing - sexual / non sexual, our grievances with our possible when available and everything else under the sun. for a fact though, we do know each other’s spouses but not that close though.

to be honest, on my side i do have a liking for her but of course the chances of any ‘affair’ happening is low we both of us have kids and our own commitments. now a kind sister here has advised me that no lady would be chatting so long and share secrets with a guy if it’s just a ‘normal’ friend but till date i haven’t got the courage to broach this topic with ex colleague.

for the experienced bro and sis here, what would your take be on this situation and what kind of a relationship would you categorised this in your honest opinion? affair? or just casual r/s between 2 long terms friends? or anything else u feel is happening in this situation since were all affected by this CB.

i feel u bro.
am in such a situation myself.. but i keep telling myself e friendship is far more impt den e forbidden fruit..
n oso e trust tht was built over time.. once broken.. will nv go back to e same again..
juz my 1 cent worth.

[VoicesWithin]

bros and sister on this thread. stumbled upon here and am also in sort of a blurry situation at the moment.

for the experienced bro and sis here, what would your take be on this situation and what kind of a relationship would you categorised this in your honest opinion? affair? or just casual r/s between 2 long terms friends? or anything else u feel is happening in this situation since were all affected by this CB.

Exactly the same situation too. Abit blur now. Sigh. Got to know a lady 2 yrs ago. She is married with kids. I am too. We chatted everyday and all topics. We got along very well. Became confidantes. Became best friends. We knew we liked each as friends and told each other there can be nothing more. Then one day, we made a mistake. We kissed. After that, we lost control and became lovers. Suddenly all the dynamics changed. There were many expectations from her. We quarrelled often. She became very unreasonable. As I type this now, we are having a cold war. She blocked me. I don't want to contact her either. I regretted getting intimate with her. I lost my best friend.

I will tell you the obvious. Once you start down that road, there is no turning back. You will lose her as a best friend. Here is the not so obvious. Lust and desire are impossible to beat. Every man will think he can manage it. The fact you are curious whether she likes you reveals it ady. After knowing she likes you - isnt it obvious Sherlock - what do you do? The wheel starts churning by itself. Good luck bro. Dont end up like me. But if you do, I can use some company.

[BowBow]

Based on my experience in having affair or 1 night stand it thrilling as you are trying
New pussy to bang with. But after doing it for years karma hit me hard till I fell hard take me years to be back to where I am now.yes you can fuck here and there but to a point where you gonna lose your wife and kid it a teribble road no one can bear the pain.
Like what was advised to me. We can cheat our wife but we can't cheat our God
Karma only waiting for right time to strike.i hope my post did not hurt any bros feeling just sharing what I been thru lost 17 years of marriage and the worst is losing your kid

I feel you ... I do have fair share of thrill and doesn’t really think about karma till it strikes on me ... hard fall and it’s a very expensive lesson...

[zl1983]

Exactly the same situation too. Abit blur now. Sigh. Got to know a lady 2 yrs ago. She is married with kids. I am too. We chatted everyday and all topics. We got along very well. Became confidantes. Became best friends. We knew we liked each as friends and told each other there can be nothing more. Then one day, we made a mistake. We kissed. After that, we lost control and became lovers. Suddenly all the dynamics changed. There were many expectations from her. We quarrelled often. She became very unreasonable. As I type this now, we are having a cold war. She blocked me. I don't want to contact her either. I regretted getting intimate with her. I lost my best friend.

I will tell you the obvious. Once you start down that road, there is no turning back. You will lose her as a best friend. Here is the not so obvious. Lust and desire are impossible to beat. Every man will think he can manage it. The fact you are curious whether she likes you reveals it ady. After knowing she likes you - isnt it obvious Sherlock - what do you do? The wheel starts churning by itself. Good luck bro. Dont end up like me. But if you do, I can use some company.

same sentiments - fear of losing ur best fren..

[curious11]

i feel u bro.
am in such a situation myself.. but i keep telling myself e friendship is far more impt den e forbidden fruit..
n oso e trust tht was built over time.. once broken.. will nv go back to e same again..
juz my 1 cent worth.

no 1 cent worth bro. any sharing is fine. true it’s friendship that i value as like you say, it’s built over years.

Exactly the same situation too. Abit blur now. Sigh. Got to know a lady 2 yrs ago. She is married with kids. I am too. We chatted everyday and all topics. We got along very well. Became confidantes. Became best friends. We knew we liked each as friends and told each other there can be nothing more. Then one day, we made a mistake. We kissed. After that, we lost control and became lovers. Suddenly all the dynamics changed. There were many expectations from her. We quarrelled often. She became very unreasonable. As I type this now, we are having a cold war. She blocked me. I don't want to contact her either. I regretted getting intimate with her. I lost my best friend.

I will tell you the obvious. Once you start down that road, there is no turning back. You will lose her as a best friend. Here is the not so obvious. Lust and desire are impossible to beat. Every man will think he can manage it. The fact you are curious whether she likes you reveals it ady. After knowing she likes you - isnt it obvious Sherlock - what do you do? The wheel starts churning by itself. Good luck bro. Dont end up like me. But if you do, I can use some company.

thanks for your feedback.. i guess what i’m trying to get is closure? as in does she feel the same about how i feel for her? to a certain extent i think i may not be the only one she chats to but i can’t be sure, pardon me for my biased feeling that i think somehow ladies get away with having to chat with multiple people but for guys maybe not as lucky?
so in that sense personally for me it’s like i’d close an eye to those and just treasure what i have with her.
the question to my bro’s is then, was it worth finding out that you really liked each other? for VoicesWithin the question would be, was it worth the trade off of finding it out? like you say, once i know she has likings for me, can we control each other like your experience or we may start something that we can’t control..

[afterburn]

.. Once you start down that road, there is no turning back. .

Some roads are like that, once you've gone down one way for too long and too far, it's impossible to turn back and take another branch. Maybe, can have hope only in the next life ;)

Sometimes when presented with options, you got to examine and be truthful to suss out what are the logical outcomes for each option. And if you're not going to go all the way, might as well don't start anything at all. Painful, but saves your effort.

[Tenby3]

Exactly the same situation too. Abit blur now. Sigh. Got to know a lady 2 yrs ago. She is married with kids. I am too. We chatted everyday and all topics. We got along very well. Became confidantes. Became best friends. We knew we liked each as friends and told each other there can be nothing more. Then one day, we made a mistake. We kissed. After that, we lost control and became lovers. Suddenly all the dynamics changed. There were many expectations from her. We quarrelled often. She became very unreasonable. As I type this now, we are having a cold war. She blocked me. I don't want to contact her either. I regretted getting intimate with her. I lost my best friend.

I will tell you the obvious. Once you start down that road, there is no turning back. You will lose her as a best friend. Here is the not so obvious. Lust and desire are impossible to beat. Every man will think he can manage it. The fact you are curious whether she likes you reveals it ady. After knowing she likes you - isnt it obvious Sherlock - what do you do? The wheel starts churning by itself. Good luck bro. Dont end up like me. But if you do, I can use some company.


Would she believe that all this was just a fantasy and in comes reality?
Personally you shouldn't regret. It is not suitable. Is it right to give up the marriage since sin already committed ? Be it whether spouse expose or kept in the dark. Even oneself heading for divorced, one should never expect your affair will come back. Getting into the affair / relationship was it about one life liberation? Would we be conscience free ?

[curious11]

Some roads are like that, once you've gone down one way for too long and too far, it's impossible to turn back and take another branch. Maybe, can have hope only in the next life ;)

Sometimes when presented with options, you got to examine and be truthful to suss out what are the logical outcomes for each option. And if you're not going to go all the way, might as well don't start anything at all. Painful, but saves your effort.


sounds like this is spoken from experience.. care to share?

[1KnightinBKK]

Yes, cheated on wife and every girlfriend since. I finally accept myself as I am and admit I am not ever going to restrict myself to fucking one woman. I finally found someone who understands that and loves me 100% anyway. So now I fuck freely and come home to a giving woman who will do anything to please me. Its the first time I feel totally myself in a relationship and have 100% honesty with my GF. And her acceptance of me makes me love her more than anything and I will never leave her.

So she gets to fuck whoever she wants to also?

[Firefly94]

I go for massage which includes hj, but usually they cant get me hard. So i opt for more massage instead.

No prob piaking my wife thou.

[tzeryin]

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