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asdfghjkl
28-05-2007, 08:58 PM
Would you beat up a boy who took photos of your girlfriend?

http://www.stomp.com.sg/ss/070528_ss_trainstation.jpg

The fearful cries of a young school boy followed by the angry shouts of a man caused a commotion at Outram MRT Station.

Student Daniel, 24, witnessed this incident on 26 April at 3pm.

The unknowing child, who was alone, had cheekily taken a picture of the man's scantily dressed girlfriend with his camera phone, much to the outrage of the protective boyfriend.

The man was so incensed he kept shouting at the boy, and even started pulling the boy's t-shirt.

The frightened boy fell to the floor, sobbing loudly, but this did stop the man from scolding him.

Unable to just stand by and do nothing, Daniel called for the station master to intervene.

The station master managed to break up the scene, and took the boy to the station office.

Daniel was extremely upset by the man's violent treatment of the boy.

"I agree that what the boy did may have been wrong, but this is still no way to treat a mere child, he's so young!" he told STOMP.

raiders
28-05-2007, 09:08 PM
If I were the BF, I probably would react the same way too. Nowadays, many children and teachers are no longer as innocent as we were in the past. Just my 2 cents worth. :rolleyes:

Manow
28-05-2007, 09:13 PM
Would you beat up a boy who took photos of your girlfriend?

http://www.stomp.com.sg/ss/070528_ss_trainstation.jpg

The fearful cries of a young school boy followed by the angry shouts of a man caused a commotion at Outram MRT Station.

Student Daniel, 24, witnessed this incident on 26 April at 3pm.

The unknowing child, who was alone, had cheekily taken a picture of the man's scantily dressed girlfriend with his camera phone, much to the outrage of the protective boyfriend.

The man was so incensed he kept shouting at the boy, and even started pulling the boy's t-shirt.

The frightened boy fell to the floor, sobbing loudly, but this did stop the man from scolding him.

Unable to just stand by and do nothing, Daniel called for the station master to intervene.

The station master managed to break up the scene, and took the boy to the station office.

Daniel was extremely upset by the man's violent treatment of the boy.

"I agree that what the boy did may have been wrong, but this is still no way to treat a mere child, he's so young!" he told STOMP.

Let's not jump to the conclusion. The boy could be part of the syndicated voyeurism gang that took photo of unsuspected women. For all you know, the girl's pic could be posted on the web. Question to ask is how would the girl feel if her scantily dressed pic appears on the web without her consent?

goofybaby69
28-05-2007, 09:21 PM
Let's not jump to the conclusion. The boy could be part of the syndicated voyeurism gang that took photo of unsuspected women. For all you know, the girl's pic could be posted on the web. Question to ask is how would the girl feel if her scantily dressed pic appears on the web without her consent?

That's quite true.

dnagene_gal
28-05-2007, 09:41 PM
From what I feel, if the bf can get so violent and over-protective to that extent... He should discipline his gf and tell her not to wear such skimpy clothes. It's also her fault lor.

Whenever there are people who look at zaogeng girls or what, most people will say its the guys' fault. But if the girls dont dress in that way to attract such unwanted attention.. Nothing will happen right?

Speaking from the feminine side, if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention or even to be zaogenged. Cos its the female's fault. If so scared, don't wear. If bf is the sort of overzealous kind, all the more dont wear, else bf will bash up any guys that check gf out!

AD69
28-05-2007, 09:57 PM
引人犯罪. It's not all the boy's fault although what he did was wrong.

altec7
28-05-2007, 10:08 PM
From what I feel, if the bf can get so violent and over-protective to that extent... He should discipline his gf and tell her not to wear such skimpy clothes. It's also her fault lor.

Whenever there are people who look at zaogeng girls or what, most people will say its the guys' fault. But if the girls dont dress in that way to attract such unwanted attention.. Nothing will happen right?

Speaking from the feminine side, if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention or even to be zaogenged. Cos its the female's fault. If so scared, don't wear. If bf is the sort of overzealous kind, all the more dont wear, else bf will bash up any guys that check gf out!


Well said...I guess you can't really pin-point the real culprit here.

Pink Floyd
28-05-2007, 10:18 PM
On whether what the boy did was wrong is debatable.If he takes shots discreetly such as trying to shoot an upskirt, he has committed a crime.

On the other hand, taking someone's photo in the open and with the full knowledge of the other party is NOT a crime.Else we will have reporters going to jail when they snap celebrities leaving the courtroom, for example.If this is the case, the man can be charged.

Just my opinion.

JChoo
28-05-2007, 10:23 PM
If someone take pic of my wife, I think she will take it as compliment, esp from young boy. Chin Chye lah.

Definitely won't beat up boy for this. Just my views.

_AXL_
28-05-2007, 10:28 PM
引人犯罪. It's not all the boy's fault although what he did was wrong.

i dont agree with u, bro. no offence though. women have the right to wear whatever they want, so long that it is not indecent exposure. but taking an upskirt photo or plainly taking a photo without consent is against the privacy laws here. the subject in the photo has every right to demand that the pic be deleted.

no such thing as 引人犯罪... arent we supposed to be civilised human beings able to differentiate from right and wrong??? do u see the upskirt videos posted here??? sometimes i wonder how i would feel if my loved one is the one who is a victim of it...:(

Athought the boy took the pic of his gf,but it wrong to beat him up in the public.It someone fresh and blood,will u beat up urs own kid in public if he does the same thing?

i do agree though that it is wrong to beat the small boy in public. yes, it is someone else's flesh and blood. the bf should have just detained the boy (he could, right?) and wait for the authorities to arrive. no reason to beat up a boy who looked so small sized in the pic???

but then again, no one interfered with the beating process??? bloody cowards!!!:mad:

西门吹雪
28-05-2007, 11:20 PM
so, who's fault?

the woman? for being scantily-clad?
the man? for walloping the boy?
the boy? for taking pictures of an unknown woman with his camera phone?
the boy's parents? for giving money to the boy to buy a camera phone?
the phone manufacturer? for manufacturing camera phones?
the phone distributor? for selling such phones?
the boy's teacher? for not teaching the boy not to take pictures of scantily-dressed women?
the gahment? for not imposing fines on the use of camera phones in taking pictures of women in public?

:rolleyes:


then, what about the fella who took the picture as shown in threadstarter's post? did the man walloped him as well?

also, would the man come in here and wallop threadstarter for posting the image here? :eek:

西门吹雪
28-05-2007, 11:24 PM
women have the right to wear whatever they want, so long that it is not indecent exposure. but taking an upskirt photo ...is against the privacy laws here
*snipped to save bandwidth*

i agree with u, bro, no offence though,

but the article as posted by threadstarter did not say that the boy took an upskirt photo.

dominion
28-05-2007, 11:26 PM
but then again, no one interfered with the beating process??? bloody cowards!!!:mad:

in a country where armed policemen ran away from unarmed banglas who threw rubbish bins at them, what can one expect?

steamystreamsg
28-05-2007, 11:32 PM
It's all right to get pissed for what the boy did but not to lay hands on lah

dirtyhairy
28-05-2007, 11:41 PM
Speaking from the feminine side, if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention or even to be zaogenged. Cos its the female's fault. If so scared, don't wear. If bf is the sort of overzealous kind, all the more dont wear, else bf will bash up any guys that check gf out!

what about fully-clothed nuns who were raped?:mad:

西门吹雪
28-05-2007, 11:42 PM
wait a minute, got tricked by threadstarter's title. :rolleyes:

the article as posted by threadstarter did not say that the man beat the boy, unlike what was claimed in threadstarter's title. :rolleyes:

asdfghjkl
28-05-2007, 11:56 PM
i where got trick u.. i also never say the man got beat up the boy ler.. but now i scare.. later the man come beat me, how? :rolleyes:

poison
29-05-2007, 12:56 AM
where is the parent? HoW old is the boy?:confused: :confused:

Mr.romantic
29-05-2007, 01:02 AM
in a country where armed policemen ran away from unarmed banglas who threw rubbish bins at them, what can one expect?

hahaha where did this news came from? :D any source?

_AXL_
29-05-2007, 01:09 AM
i agree with u, bro, no offence though,

but the article as posted by threadstarter did not say that the boy took an upskirt photo.

no offence... i agree with u though... that the threadstarter did not state that the boy took an upskirt photo... but check my original post which u took a snip to save bandwidth... "or plainly taking a photo without consent..." bandwidth not exactly saved here...:p

in a country where armed policemen ran away from unarmed banglas who threw rubbish bins at them, what can one expect?

aiyoh... expected of the police lah... all scared to die in the course of duty... all just want to sit in office and ponder over the cases and wait for durian to drop from the sky...

there was an attempt to steal my office auntie's family car this morning in the west. the family, being early risers, heard the alarm and peeked down, saw the thief and gave chase immediately. the police however, arrived only half an hour later... for what f**k i dont really know cos the auntie told me that the police division:eek: was 1 minute away...

no wonder the public also like that... only know how to take picture!!! i really look forward to the day when the organised gangsters move in due to the casinos... then the police recruitment can close shop liao... kekekeke...

dnagene_gal
29-05-2007, 01:28 AM
what about fully-clothed nuns who were raped?:mad:
This does not apply to what I say with regards to my post that you quoted out. To ans ur Q, this is basically men who are cruel and pervertish enough to do such a dreadful thing, to probably fulfil their fantasy/fetish. Eww!!

pinkwave
29-05-2007, 01:54 AM
If the gal dare to wear like that, she will expect this type of thing happen in the first place unless she dunno " ohh i dunno nowaday handphone got camera" I agree with the bro who say this too, if ppl take pics of my wife i be happy too. The bf in the first place should stop her gf from wearing like that if he soooo protective about her. If wan say woman right about wat she wanna wear, try dun wear go out got ppl take out handphone and snap pics bo. An adult to react like this to a small kid "Lose face and let everyone know Ohh he take my gf pics and make a scene there and be proud of himself now everyone know his gf sexy and chio that why got ppl take her pics lol" I rather he pull the kids to the control station and hand him to officer in charge to settle it.

EvilInside
29-05-2007, 02:04 AM
From what I feel, if the bf can get so violent and over-protective to that extent... He should discipline his gf and tell her not to wear such skimpy clothes. It's also her fault lor.

Hi babe, do you wear skimpy clothes too? What if this happen to you? What will u do then? :cool:

goofybaby69
29-05-2007, 02:30 AM
From what I feel, if the bf can get so violent and over-protective to that extent... He should discipline his gf and tell her not to wear such skimpy clothes. It's also her fault lor.

Whenever there are people who look at zaogeng girls or what, most people will say its the guys' fault. But if the girls dont dress in that way to attract such unwanted attention.. Nothing will happen right?


whether she wore skimpy clothing at the MRT station or G-string at the sentosa beach, nobody has the right to take photo of her without her consent regardless of the unwanted attention she might have attracted.

ace7788
29-05-2007, 09:43 AM
From what I feel, if the bf can get so violent and over-protective to that extent... He should discipline his gf and tell her not to wear such skimpy clothes. It's also her fault lor.

Whenever there are people who look at zaogeng girls or what, most people will say its the guys' fault. But if the girls dont dress in that way to attract such unwanted attention.. Nothing will happen right?

Speaking from the feminine side, if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention or even to be zaogenged. Cos its the female's fault. If so scared, don't wear. If bf is the sort of overzealous kind, all the more dont wear, else bf will bash up any guys that check gf out!

Although I do agree with your post, such posts really will get "slap" from the females. I remember that someone posted such comments in the paper before. They will call us Chauvinist Pig again. Sometimes, we caution with good intention.

Well.. If the authority can advise people to refrain from wearing too many jewellery to prevent robbery, i think it works the same way.

I do my part by telling my GF and female colleagues to avoid dressing too skimpy clothes - just to prevent unnecessary incidents.

edvil
29-05-2007, 09:44 AM
aiyoh... expected of the police lah... all scared to die in the course of duty... all just want to sit in office and ponder over the cases and wait for durian to drop from the sky...

Wrong lah, they are too busy playing online games in their air-con environment than to attend to all this boring matters.........:D

whether she wore skimpy clothing at the MRT station or G-string at the sentosa beach, nobody has the right to take photo of her without her ………..

So what if it was the other way around? G-string at MRT station, then what, the girl’s boyfriend will have to beat the sh** out of the station control guys as those ppl can view and record from their surveillance camera??:confused:

geckoSG
29-05-2007, 10:11 AM
Anyway, how revealing the lady wear is her freedom, but to take photos
without consent is against the law.

If you think the lady looks nice, ask her if you could take a photo.
The boy obviously had ill intention to take the photo.

Thumbs up to the BF for successfully induced fear to the boy...
I've seen too much of perverts that took downblouse and have appended
them personally to the police too many times... This habit develops from
young. If you dun stop them now, Singapore guys will be rated extreme
perverts (Number 1) within the next 10 years.

Castrol
29-05-2007, 11:01 AM
Whenever there are people who look at zaogeng girls or what, most people will say its the guys' fault. But if the girls dont dress in that way to attract such unwanted attention.. Nothing will happen right?

Speaking from the feminine side, if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention or even to be zaogenged. Cos its the female's fault. If so scared, don't wear. If bf is the sort of overzealous kind, all the more dont wear, else bf will bash up any guys that check gf out!

hello, this is 2007. women can wear whatever they want to wear as long as it is legal in public. and it shouldnt mean they asked for it if anything bad happens.

about the guy who held the kid's shirt on the ground like a hero, will this hero be so garang or brave if the one taking picture is a big size pai kia with tattoos all over his body and arms?

i can understand the anger if someone takes picture of his girlfriend secretly or w/o approval in public, but i also believe in "taking on somebody your own size". he can always call the police to deal with the kid.

just becos you got a "gal" on your nick and you can speak "from the feminine side"? http://mods.soccergaming.tv/~iceblu/Ice/funny.gif

CoolBlack
29-05-2007, 11:02 AM
Interesting thread but there are lots of "uncertains" revolving this whole incident.
Whatever happened......violence is always wrong!
It is an offence to intrude a person's privcy by taking photo without permisson but this does not warrent violence.
It does not matters if the wrong doer is a kid or an adult, I believe the proper reaction form the jealous BF should be to detain the culprit and refer him to the authorities.

My 2cents.

sherrry
29-05-2007, 11:38 AM
Would you beat up a boy who took photos of your girlfriend?. Children these days are not the same as before, no big no small. During our time, we didn't even dare stare at any lady who zaogeng for too long, wait for nothing kena slap.

NOw, the boy actually so garang to go take photos of the scantily clad gf of the very expressive protective bf. I think the boy also deserve it lah. These kids don't f_ck can't grow up.

Its a good lesson for him lah, then he can grow up to be more discreet when voyeuring in future. Potential candidate for 'young SBF'.

pfingo
29-05-2007, 11:42 AM
Potential candidate for 'young SBF'. mayb already HERE bro...come come own up!! :p

no_faith
29-05-2007, 12:36 PM
took photo of his gal to pcc lah.
btw, got photo of the galfren?

Full House
29-05-2007, 12:59 PM
Children these days are not the same as before, no big no small. During our time, we didn't even dare stare at any lady who zaogeng for too long, wait for nothing kena slap.

NOw, the boy actually so garang to go take photos of the scantily clad gf of the very expressive protective bf. I think the boy also deserve it lah. These kids don't f_ck can't grow up.

Its a good lesson for him lah, then he can grow up to be more discreet when voyeuring in future. Potential candidate for 'young SBF'.

Well it not the boy fault,he too small to know anything.It the parent,where are the parent at the first place.he leaving his kid ruuning around:mad:

Keong19
29-05-2007, 02:09 PM
Athought the boy took the pic of his gf,but it wrong to beat him up in the public.It someone fresh and blood,will u beat up urs own kid in public if he does the same thing?

Yes, no matter what, he has not right to beat up the kid, maybe he just wanna gain more points in SB? :cool:

spidey69
29-05-2007, 02:17 PM
IMHO :

Kena hamtam for doing something perverted :

1) Young is NOT an excuse
2) If old people do that, still no excuse
3) If you r drunk when u do that, still no excuse.

The boy probably done it hundreds of time without getting caught. Finally he gets his desserts.:cool:


As for the Singapore Police, their reaction time to the crime scene is NOT link directly to the severity of the crime.. It depends on how big shot the victim is..

Also the rank of the police officers involved is NOT link to the severity of the crime.. It still depends on how big shot the victim is.. ( eg murder case for small fly = send LCP can liao..) ( VVIP lost her dog, must sent Station Inspector ) :mad:

dnagene_gal
29-05-2007, 02:26 PM
Hi babe, do you wear skimpy clothes too? What if this happen to you? What will u do then? :cool:
Yah I wear skimpy clothes too.
My folks are liberal people. They always tell me that "People can see, cannot touch".
If this is going to happen to me, I will ask the boy whether he was taking my photo and get him to delete it.
Anyway my photo has been taken without my permission before and I even went to confront those guys.

ix1x
29-05-2007, 02:28 PM
nope no point getting angry over it ... let alone it just a small kid

dnagene_gal
29-05-2007, 02:28 PM
Although I do agree with your post, such posts really will get "slap" from the females. I remember that someone posted such comments in the paper before. They will call us Chauvinist Pig again. Sometimes, we caution with good intention.

Well.. If the authority can advise people to refrain from wearing too many jewellery to prevent robbery, i think it works the same way.

I do my part by telling my GF and female colleagues to avoid dressing too skimpy clothes - just to prevent unnecessary incidents.




Funny huh... Seems like although I am a femme, but what I commented is like a MCP.. Lol...

Yes, you did a good job by telling ur gf and female colleagues that. Cheers!

dnagene_gal
29-05-2007, 02:30 PM
whether she wore skimpy clothing at the MRT station or G-string at the sentosa beach, nobody has the right to take photo of her without her consent regardless of the unwanted attention she might have attracted.
Yes, nobody has the right to take her photo without her consent. But she can't stop them if they take, since she was inviting attention by wearing skimpily.

geckoSG
29-05-2007, 02:33 PM
Yes, no matter what, he has not right to beat up the kid, maybe he just wanna gain more points in SB? :cool:

In the stomp report, nothing has been mentioned that the guy wallop the
boy... we cannot jump to conclusion... Just because of his raised hand
that we concluded he hit? LOLz

no_faith
29-05-2007, 02:35 PM
Yah I wear skimpy clothes too.
If this is going to happen to me, I will ask the boy whether he was taking my photo and get him to delete it.
Anyway my photo has been taken without my permission before and I even went to confront those guys.
yeah, u shd discipline yourself and tell yourself not to wear such skimpy clothes. so at the end of the day, itz also your fault mah.

if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention, zaogenged, photo of u being taken. u saves your time and trouble of confronting those guys.

dnagene_gal
29-05-2007, 03:09 PM
yeah, u shd discipline yourself and tell yourself not to wear such skimpy clothes. so at the end of the day, itz also your fault mah.

if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention, zaogenged, photo of u being taken. u saves your time and trouble of confronting those guys.

Hmm I dun mind unwanted attention and kena zaogenged. This kind of thing is inevitable and i have no control on it to happen or not.

I was working in a computer show and I heard frm the sales staff frm the coy that I was working, that his fren was viewing digicam frm a camera coy and they actually had taken a photo, all the way zoomed in to my chest area and used it as a sales talk tactic "See, can zoom unti lso far so clear". Thats a wrong way to promote their camera right? Hence, I confronted those guys.

Hmmm I never say its not my fault that I got those attention. Who knows maybe I enjoy receiving it? :rolleyes: At the end of the day, its not right for a big guy to confront a small guy in that manner.

musedragon
29-05-2007, 03:39 PM
Hmm I dun mind unwanted attention and kena zaogenged. This kind of thing is inevitable and i have no control on it to happen or not.

Hmmm I never say its not my fault that I got those attention. Who knows maybe I enjoy receiving it? :rolleyes: At the end of the day, its not right for a big guy to confront a small guy in that manner.

Hey Gal,
I am getting confused with your string of postings in this thread. You seemed to be going everywhere with your POV; from saying that girls shouldnt be wearing skimpy clothes if they dont want to invite unwanted attention and then you go on to describe how you yourself got into the same situation.:confused:

From a girl's perspective, I would have thought that you should believe in your rights to wear whatever you like and not be subjected to fear of any pervasive and intrusive acts on you. Of course, you would get looks from guys and I believe from some girls as well, but these looks are more observation, acknowledging the nice looks you have; which should be something that as a beautiful girl, you would appreciate and not feel offended.

Maybe you have been influenced by what you have read in SBF???

On the issue at hand and IMHO: if the pictures taken by the young boy was not pervasive in nature, the BF, should be "man" enough to appreciate that he has a beautiful GF.
But of course, if the pictures were taken on a pervasive intent, then the young boy should be reprimanded and handed over to the police for corrective education, so that he would not end up a peeping tom in his later years.

dirtyhairy
29-05-2007, 04:40 PM
This does not apply to what I say with regards to my post that you quoted out. To ans ur Q, this is basically men who are cruel and pervertish enough to do such a dreadful thing, to probably fulfil their fantasy/fetish. Eww!![/.......Speaking from the feminine side, if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention or even to be zaogenged. Cos its the female's fault. If so scared, don't wear. If bf is the sort of overzealous kind, all the more dont wear, else bf will bash up any guys that check gf out!

1st you blame so-called flaunters for their sexy dressing
for inviting trouble and doing themselves in
Then I asked what about fully-clothed nuns who got raped
you said they were victims of men who, like barbarians, they behaved
BIG question is should anyone's fotos be taken without permission
if newspapers had deemed it fit to cover the faces of ppl's fotos
then should not the boy seek permission before he snapped the gal's foto?
after all he certainly is no journo...
and if he should suka suka snap other ppl's fotos
then he should be prepared to face the consequences loh! :mad:

suteerak1099
29-05-2007, 04:41 PM
so young only, pubic hair probably havent sprout, know how to voyuer liao? of all things, kena caugh tby the bf?? which guy in the right mind will allow some pervert to take pics of his gf?

beat up or thrash the boy to pulp? i think no wrong. its a lesson he must learn. if left not corrected now, who knows? he could be the next serial rapist? underwear thief? molester at large?... etc.

but if the reports were true that the gal was skimpily clad, then she should also slap herself. wear so little not covering up proper, expect ppl not to notice??? let alone cause others to have designs on taking pics for memory sake.

WillamSexsphere
29-05-2007, 05:32 PM
Let's get the facts straight.

1. The girl is skimply clad - not an offence.

2. The boy took a picture of her, and in public - not an offence.

3. The BF wacked him - certainly an offence.

What is right and wrong is determine by law. And law is determined by majority of society. Society is made up of not just our leaders, but u and me.

It is not wrong in our liberal country for a girl to dress as she pleased as long as she dont run around naked. What constitute ' skimply' dressing? What are the limits? Best not go into there otherwise we will only repressed the freedom and rights of women. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, DONT BLAME THE WOMEN!

But blame us men for not being able to keep our horniness in check, for we are always responsible for our own actions, no one else.

Cheers!:D

AD69
29-05-2007, 05:44 PM
i dont agree with u, bro. no offence though. women have the right to wear whatever they want, so long that it is not indecent exposure. but taking an upskirt photo or plainly taking a photo without consent is against the privacy laws here. the subject in the photo has every right to demand that the pic be deleted.

no such thing as 引人犯罪... arent we supposed to be civilised human beings able to differentiate from right and wrong??? do u see the upskirt videos posted here??? sometimes i wonder how i would feel if my loved one is the one who is a victim of it...:(

Bro,

Don't worry, no offence taken.

In the first place, the boy did not take an up-skirt photo of the gal.

Like the rest of the bros and sis here wrote, if she dares to wear skimpy clothes, she should be not afraid to have such unwanted attention, zao genged, photo being taken etc.

As for taking up skirt photos and video with intention, that is definately a wrong doing.

Castrol
29-05-2007, 05:45 PM
Let's get the facts straight.

1. The girl is skimply clad - not an offence.

2. The boy took a picture of her, and in public - not an offence.

3. The BF wacked him - certainly an offence.


and justice for all! :D

Ricorite
29-05-2007, 06:03 PM
Actually you dont have to lay hands on the boy. Just use the emergency speaker and speak to the train Captain, then get the control station stuff to come down and detain the boy then call police.

CASE CLOSED.

Let the boy give his grandfather grandmother story at the police station.

KIDS these days are not that innocent anymore.

tomvoyeur
29-05-2007, 06:20 PM
Speaking from the feminine side, if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention or even to be zaogenged. Cos its the female's fault. If so scared, don't wear. If bf is the sort of overzealous kind, all the more dont wear, else bf will bash up any guys that check gf out!

That's certainly a rare opinion coming from the female side but in this case we really need to ascertain what kind of zaogeng we r talking about here...One type is where an offender uses intent n methods to capture / see a victim's outer wear. The other type is accidental exposure where the victim unknowingly expose himself / herself. The former is uncalled for as this constitute an outrage of modesty n I dun think any woman in the right mind should condone that...But if this pertains to the latter scenario, then I agree that the victim should not be blaming others for her actions n choice of clothings....Just my opinion..:)

tomvoyeur
29-05-2007, 06:22 PM
in a country where armed policemen ran away from unarmed banglas who threw rubbish bins at them, what can one expect?

Perhaps the police is under directive not to harm foreign talents...:p :D

tomvoyeur
29-05-2007, 06:44 PM
1. The girl is skimply clad - not an offence.

2. The boy took a picture of her, and in public - not an offence.

3. The BF wacked him - certainly an offence.



Well-presented points!There is simply no case against the boy for taking a non-lewd picture of a scantily clad lady in public...However, the aggressive boyfren can be charged for criminal intimidation if the police / boy's family decide to press charges...

There is no legal requirement for a person to seek permission from the intended target for him / her to take pictures as trademark issues do not apply for a person's pictures taken in public spaces. This applies even for celebrities. But the law do prosecute people who maliciously undertake actions to outrage a woman's modesty...In this case, there is no evidence to suggest the latter act has taken place....

I fully emphatise with the boy and hope he can recover from this traumatic experience speedily...In a nutsell, this is a case of a zealous bf going overboard with his actions n his intimidating method of resolving the issue should not be condoned....my 2cents worth..

jackylee
29-05-2007, 07:05 PM
What i think is what the man did is not wrong...

The boy might be young but that does'nt mean he does'nt have to pay for what he did wrong...


All the fetishes (of people beoing your gf or etc you high) aside... i don't think any guys will want others taking pic of your gf... see see.. bo bian.. but in this society now... pics taken liao u duno wad happen to it...

They shouldnt put camera with phone... really :rolleyes:

dirtyhairy
29-05-2007, 07:33 PM
Yes, nobody has the right to take her photo without her consent. But she can't stop them if they take, since she was inviting attention by wearing skimpily.

Yes, she cant stop them for taking fotos,
so her BF stopped the boy for her loh
imagine how society will becum really
if based on your views they are to be
let's say you try to dress like Mother Theresa
becos you re not only religious, you treat sex like you treat SARS
so naturally, you dress properly, not skimpy
but unlike Mother Theresa. you look dammed sexy
becos of your two natural big knockers, you are so busty:p
then along comes a dirtylaobaby aged 70 going 80
suddenly on seeing you, he becums horny
shoves his hands and grabs at your titties
he's not only embarrassing you, he's outraging your modesty
your BF with you becums angry
he whacks ah lao so badly that he has to be admitted to hospital Changi
now if tat's you and yr BF, is this justified, you tell me.
So to pass judgement without appreciating the facts fully,
may be easy but it is folly

no_faith
29-05-2007, 07:51 PM
Hey Gal,
I am getting confused with your string of postings in this thread. You seemed to be going everywhere with your POV; from saying that girls shouldnt be wearing skimpy clothes if they dont want to invite unwanted attention and then you go on to describe how you yourself got into the same situation.:confused:
ttz my point too, :confused:

Cocky
29-05-2007, 08:39 PM
From what I feel, if the bf can get so violent and over-protective to that extent... He should discipline his gf and tell her not to wear such skimpy clothes. It's also her fault lor.

Whenever there are people who look at zaogeng girls or what, most people will say its the guys' fault. But if the girls dont dress in that way to attract such unwanted attention.. Nothing will happen right?

Speaking from the feminine side, if you dare to wear so skimpy, dont be afraid to have such unwanted attention or even to be zaogenged. Cos its the female's fault. If so scared, don't wear. If bf is the sort of overzealous kind, all the more dont wear, else bf will bash up any guys that check gf out!

I do not agreed to your point of view. It is true that if a laby is skimpy and sexy dress, as men we will sure see or look. Which is total fine as long as you see and look. But if you use a camera to take the photo than is wrong. As long as the cha bo willing to wear skimpy or sexy, she sure know that men will all see and look but that dont mean you can take her photo without her consent with a camera.

Garick
29-05-2007, 09:02 PM
well, sg are getting more open and westernised to certain extent plus the fact that this is a warm country, it'll certainly affect e way of dressing..so meaning more and more women will be out with skimpy clothings..

my guess is, assuming if the boy is in some voyeur gang, as previously said by some bro, his hp will have tons of zaogeng pics..

so forgive him, he is also in the making of a man :D

RICHIE72
29-05-2007, 09:38 PM
All of us humans have an inherent nature to admire beauty. For the boy to "secretly" snap a picture of an unknowing lady, whether scantily dressed or fully clothed, constitutes to an invasion of one's privacy. However, for the adult to wave his "mighty" fist at the helpless boy, no matter what wrong he has done, is acting in a cowardly manner. I mean, what do you expect a boy to do against an adult who might even be old enough to be his brother or uncle. I think we need to learn to put things right, through the proper channels.:o

The_Unrepentant
29-05-2007, 10:15 PM
What is right and wrong is determine by law. And law is determined by majority of society. Society is made up of not just our leaders, but u and me.


wrong. laws are certainly not determined by majority of society. it never was and it never will be. Instead, it is determined by the powerful minority capitalist and moral entrepreneurs to protect the rich and powerful. :D

The_Unrepentant
29-05-2007, 10:24 PM
y is it okay to see ?:confused: because u look at them so u say is ok? because u never take photo so it's ok?

Y is it not okay for ppl to take photo? Invasion of privacy? wat is invasion of privacy? who determines invasion of privacy is wrong? wat harm does invasion of privacy actually do to the victim ? so tat when more ppl can see her scantily dressed clothes, it suddenly harms her???:confused:

unholymonk
29-05-2007, 10:25 PM
if i there, i sure beat up the man and slap the gf.... The man really crazy

The_Unrepentant
29-05-2007, 10:29 PM
so young only, pubic hair probably havent sprout, know how to voyuer liao?

ASSumptions. ur fav word right? I think it applies to u very well.:D where in the article mention abt wat u were thinking abt?:rolleyes:

The_Unrepentant
29-05-2007, 10:31 PM
if i there, i sure beat up the man and slap the gf.... The man really crazy

u sure? mai +++ cock lah. if u there, u will sure take photo of the girl.:D

_AXL_
30-05-2007, 05:28 AM
Wrong lah, they are too busy playing online games in their air-con environment than to attend to all this boring matters......


hahaha... that's a good one!!! errr... how u know ah???

i heard it from my buddy who was a NS policeman, whenever there is a call to activate, they will take their own sweet time cos, sekali, go there, the stupid criminal still there with knives or something, then siao liao!!! they definitely wont dare to use their guns and for baton, most dont really know how to use it properly. which explains their reaction time...

Well said!!!!!!!!!
Check urs user CP

wah lau, bro!!! u the man lah!!! which newbie did u bully to up my points??? he didnt leave nick, just told me u forced him at knifepoint!!!:D do pm me, so i can return the favour, soon...

hmmm... did i just sabo u??? u must be regretting now liao... dont worry, i will return favour too... by jumping on another newbie to up yr points lor...

Bro,

Don't worry, no offence taken.

In the first place, the boy did not take an up-skirt photo of the gal.

Like the rest of the bros and sis here wrote, if she dares to wear skimpy clothes, she should be not afraid to have such unwanted attention, zao genged, photo being taken etc.

As for taking up skirt photos and video with intention, that is definately a wrong doing.

glad there was no offence taken. but offence committed, yes!!! the boy cannot take another's pic without expressed consent, zaogeng or otherwise...

cheers, all...

_AXL_
30-05-2007, 07:31 AM
wah bro u so early only do posting liao...only use gun to force him :X.oh he never leave down his nick ar???ok will ask him to PM u
bro ur frd aslo never leave down his nick leh...faster ask him to PM me

slept real early last nite, so wake up in the middle of the nite... kekeke...

wah, use gun ah??? so nice of u!!! u got the gun from 1 eye dragon hah?:D

my "friend" so early did his job liao ah??? i smsed him to threaten him with his job only... never use gun like u did!!! my "friend" is a video collector, never seen him post before. hmmm... but he always leaves his nick... will tell him later when i see him at the office...

got to go office liao... so as to save a bit on the dragon gates...:p talk to u later...

_AXL_
30-05-2007, 08:39 AM
yeah...have a nice day and don't eat snake hor

haha... boss not coming in today. so me can act like boss liao!!! how nice if i can earn my keep just by signing my name all day...:p

tomvoyeur
30-05-2007, 09:15 AM
haha... boss not coming in today. so me can act like boss liao!!! how nice if i can earn my keep just by signing my name all day...

Feel free to sign some blank cheques for me....I will try to keep u around LOL....:p

_AXL_
30-05-2007, 09:16 AM
Feel free to sign some blank cheques for me....I will try to keep u around LOL....

hmmm... will give u some personal ones, since u like hyperactive cheques!!!;)

Eunuch
30-05-2007, 09:39 AM
Hmm, wat thread is this huh???
Beat up a boy .... CAN ... some deserve to be whacked

unholymonk
30-05-2007, 10:44 AM
u sure? mai +++ cock lah. if u there, u will sure take photo of the girl.:D
I will not take photo... must go touch better

dap26
30-05-2007, 11:12 AM
Juz handle the boy to the police.No need to be so harsh to the boy.Btw if it is a strong and muscular guy who took the photo.Dun knw whether wat will the guy do.Beat the strong man up?

dirtyhairy
30-05-2007, 12:18 PM
if i there, i sure beat up the man and slap the gf.... The man really crazy

And if I am there, I will stop both of you
and offer the two of you orange juice or even kopi susu
why fight brudders and waste energy just bcos you r angry
be like DirtyHairy, 60 going 70 oso never angry just horny sumtimes funny
if fight kenna caught by camera, charged Section 323 and lose money
which can be used to enjoy more pussies!
so steady lah...dun anyhow get angry
one trick to do is when about to get hot, just think of DirtyHairy
his small 1-inch didi, two unsold lorries and his stupidity
then you will laugh may be, and forget about being angry!
So with Vesak Day tomolo
Buddha says forgive and be happy lah, eh sai boh?:D

HIVsucks_XXX
30-05-2007, 12:50 PM
The guy shouldn't use violence, what he should do is hand the boy over to station master and lodge an report or call the police to intervene.

shuaige84
30-05-2007, 12:52 PM
the man shdn't beat up the boy. shd handle him to police instead..

dnagene_gal
30-05-2007, 01:12 PM
As a girl I like to look sexy,
So I dress myself to be hottie.
Some clothes look really very skimpy,
What to do if I look notti?

Look so good and look so sweet,
Not surprised if guys look at me.
If my zaogenged butt and their eyes meet,
What to do but lan lan i can just be.

If Ah Boy want to take photo of me,
I say sure boy sure yes you can.
Make sure my bf is not with me,
Or he will turn into an angry hulk from a man.

Dare to wear, since I am a hot twenty.
I take it that I have the 'liao' for you to take.
You might as well ask me to go mati,
To kena snapped only when I become Lao Aunty!

dirtyhairy
30-05-2007, 02:19 PM
As a girl I like to look sexy,
So I dress myself to be hottie.
Some clothes look really very skimpy,
What to do if I look notti?
Look so good and look so sweet,
Not surprised if guys look at me.
If my zaogenged butt and their eyes meet,
What to do but lan lan i can just be.
If Ah Boy want to take photo of me,
I say sure boy sure yes you can.
Make sure my bf is not with me,
Or he will turn into an angry hulk from a man.
Dare to wear, since I am a hot twenty.
I take it that I have the 'liao' for you to take.
You might as well ask me to go mati,
To kena snapped only when I become Lao Aunty!

Wah Sis DG,
now you oso into poetry
which is good to see
testifying to this forum's pool of not only cuntal but creative juices aplenty

now back to your posting we see
how you justify sexy dressing, foto snapping
plus oso even a public thrashing
and then saying it's better to enjoy the attention now
instead of only when you becum old haggard ala Aunty Lao Hiao

I dun mean to be rude, but if I may conclude
be it an illegal foto shoot, or cornering someone to slap and hoot
or on your face & tits (OMG), wrinkles and warts emerge they should
it's still never right to justify
the use of violence just to get someone to comply
but on the other hand, anyone doing things on the sly
the consequences of their actions they must realize
so if one insists on doing things against law, decency or even Mother Nature
then dun cry father or mother when the result is like bluddy torture!

dnagene_gal
30-05-2007, 02:47 PM
[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"][B]Wah Sis DG,
now you oso into poetry
which is good to see
testifying to this forum's pool of not only cuntal but creative juices aplenty

Not only now that I am into poetry,
I been in it for 10 years already.
I write more on love and my mood.
Some say my writings are good good.

nahpets
30-05-2007, 03:18 PM
Hmm, this thread, another one on poetry??
or izzit about beating up a boy

dirtyhairy
30-05-2007, 03:43 PM
nahpets;2056018]Hmm, this thread, another one on poetry??
or izzit about beating up a boy[/I]

Bro N,
Before you complain, I suggest you read the posts again...and again?


Not only now that I am into poetry,
I been in it for 10 years already.
I write more on love and my mood.
Some say my writings are good good.

Yo Sis DG,
So I see you into poetry a long time aledi
and I oso see,
humility is not your strong point obviously:o
hehehehe....DirtyHairy, horny laobaby into good sex only

fatfat
30-05-2007, 06:10 PM
After reading all the posts here.. I have only one regret...

That 'WHY NO ONE TOOK THE PIC OF THE SCANTILY DRESSED GAL'!! and post it for us to see!! :p

fatfat
30-05-2007, 06:15 PM
After reading thru the posts.. I have only 1 regret...

on 'WHY DID NO ONE TAKE THE PIC OF THE GAL'!! and post it here?? ..
hahaa :p

cockup
01-06-2007, 04:19 PM
Firstly any samster here who is lawyer can verify is taking photo of other human without their consent in public legal or not?

Scene 1:
An old man showing off his money which he just withdrawed from CPF board at coffeeshop, and he got robbed at the lift soon after.

Ques 1: Is the robber at fault?
Ques 2: So is the old man at fault too?

Scene 2:
A auntie wearing alot of gold jewelries to market and got rob at the lift.

Ques 1: Is the robber at fault?
Ques 2: So is the auntie at fault too?

Scene 3:
A female who wear very exposed and sexy clothes got raped while she on her way home after cheonging pub.

Ques 1: Is the rapist at fault?
Ques 2: So is the female at fault too?

Scene 4:
A skimpy clothes female got taken a photo on mrt with her consent.

Ques 1: Is the photographer at fault?
Ques 2: So is the female at fault too?

I can only say it takes 2 hands to clap. :)

asdfghjkl
01-06-2007, 06:10 PM
i dun understand, boy take photo of a girl, angry. pap uses video camera on streets, mrt, bus, shopping centre, airports, etc? :rolleyes:

tomvoyeur
01-06-2007, 08:12 PM
i dun understand, boy take photo of a girl, angry. pap uses video camera on streets, mrt, bus, shopping centre, airports, etc?

Well, that really depends if ur surname is Lee.....:rolleyes:

no_faith
03-06-2007, 03:06 PM
garmen install cameras is for our safety.
taking pix like the boy is invade piracy.

:D