So you want a FB, or just a ... date?

[larue]

FB, FWB or quite simply, you want a date...

It's not that hard, and what's holding you back is frankly not:

A) not being rich
B) not having a car
C) being good-looking

If you believe what's preventing you from getting one is any of the above, quite frankly you are just looking for excuses. Anything you can use to excuse yourself for FAILING.

Getting a date/fb is far less daunting than you think,subject to the usual caveats (eg if you have no money, no looks and no nice car, you should probably not expect to get a date or a sex session with somebody who is obviously OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE). Yes, this shit happens.

But if you cut your clothes according to your cloth so to speak, there is NO reason why any of you guys should not get a date/FB.

I have seen many other guys here giving good advice on how to score, but I have seen even more giving terrible easy-to--accept advice that is as easy to digest as it is untrue designed to make you give up without trying.

You guys do not deserve to be alone. You can break out of that cycle.

[masterwanker]

A) not being rich
B) not having a car
C) being good-looking




I don't have all 3 . :o

[AmeShin]

Nowadays no (a) no (b) . Have (c) also not much use

U no (c) but have (a) or (b) high chance bo leh

[justl00king]

Camp here to learn from the experts :cool: how to score a FB :o

[larue]

Nowadays no (a) no (b) . Have (c) also not much use

U no (c) but have (a) or (b) high chance bo leh

You really have to drop this mentality. It is holds you back.

I know how easy it is and comforting to believe that the guy driving the Ferrari is getting all that sexual attention simply because he presumably has money.

Odds are however, it's the very traits that brought him the riches to buy the Ferrari that also happen to be very attractive to (some) women. Maybe the drive or the ambition that a man would need to attain that sort of power. And power is a strong aphrodisiac.

But you'd be surprised how few women are interested in spreading their legs for men simply because they have money. And that's not what you want anyway, right?

Having a car is another one. So what if you don't own a car. So what? Lots of people don't own a car.

And yes, there will be women for whom you not having a car is a deal breaker. Alright, move along. Find a girl to whom this doesn't matter enough because you have already shown yourself to be attractive in other ways.

I meet my friends online (I must admit that's where my strengths lie), but by and large these general rules apply no matter where or how you get to know them.

I establish rapport up to a point where I know my odds are good, and very rarely have I been asked prior to that, whether I drive. It often does not matter once you've made yourself likeable enough before that.

And being good looking, I guess (without any statistical evidence) probably makes the biggest difference of the three, especially when making a good impression.

And the good news is, almost every guy has the power and means to overcome the curse of physical ugliness. And luckily for guys again, it really is far less deadly for guys to be fugly than it is for girls.

If you aren't happy with your appearance, go lose some weight, stop going to places where there're pretty girls wearing cheap sandals and ugly ARMY singlets and thinking that it's okay.

It's not too hard, nor too expensive with so many options (if unsure, just go to Uniqlo) to dress decently well. Well enough to feel good about yourself every time you step out the door to go out.

Sure it's mostly the same you, as if you'd been wearing cheap sandals and a disgusting ARMY singlet, but that bit of difference is huge in terms of the impression you can make. And more importantly, the way you feel about yourself.

And you don't even need to hit the gym.

https://pics.me.me/expectations-reality-nice-pecs-bro-how-much-can-you-bench-221498.png

I see plenty of gym guys with arms so big they walk like gorillas or with skin so bad (they show a lot of it because they think their muscles look incredibly sexy). I doubt they're getting any.

And those that are, is because their going to the gym is part of an overall routine designed to keep themselves feeling confident and good about themselves.

And that is the most important part, feeling good about yourself. It just shows from the clothes you wear, your body language.

People simply like being around people who feel good about themselves. Of course that should not cross over into arrogance which is unattractive to everyone.

They are many methods that a guy can go about finding women to meet, but before even going there, you simply have to work on yourself.

Very specifically, how you feel about yourself, and your ability to compete with other males for female attention. If you don't feel good about yourself, and feel inferior or anything, you aren't going to get anywhere, no matter how much you 'try your luck'

Yes, I started this thread because I keep on reading guys here attributing success or failure to luck when blind stupid luck has not that much to do with it.

Yes, having a), b) and c) do help, a lot. But there are so many things a guy can do to tilt the odds in his favor, and I'm pretty sure the main reason why so men don't do it is sheer PASSIVITY.

That passivity may have many causes, but if you wanna do something about it, there really is so much you can do. You just have to stop the self-pitying and believing that a lot of what you can and hope to achieve are beyond your ability to influence and effect.

It's a nasty mindset that adds no value to your life.

[A42L]

You really have to drop this mentality. It is holds you back.

I know how easy it is and comforting to believe that the guy driving the Ferrari is getting all that sexual attention simply because he presumably has money.

Odds are however, it's the very traits that brought him the riches to buy the Ferrari that also happen to be very attractive to (some) women. Maybe the drive or the ambition that a man would need to attain that sort of power. And power is a strong aphrodisiac.

But you'd be surprised how few women are interested in spreading their legs for men simply because they have money. And that's not what you want anyway, right?

Having a car is another one. So what if you don't own a car. So what? Lots of people don't own a car.

And yes, there will be women for whom you not having a car is a deal breaker. Alright, move along. Find a girl to whom this doesn't matter enough because you have already shown yourself to be attractive in other ways.

I meet my friends online (I must admit that's where my strengths lie), but by and large these general rules apply no matter where or how you get to know them.

I establish rapport up to a point where I know my odds are good, and very rarely have I been asked prior to that, whether I drive. It often does not matter once you've made yourself likeable enough before that.

And being good looking, I guess (without any statistical evidence) probably makes the biggest difference of the three, especially when making a good impression.

And the good news is, almost every guy has the power and means to overcome the curse of physical ugliness. And luckily for guys again, it really is far less deadly for guys to be fugly than it is for girls.

If you aren't happy with your appearance, go lose some weight, stop going to places where there're pretty girls wearing cheap sandals and ugly ARMY singlets and thinking that it's okay.

It's not too hard, nor too expensive with so many options (if unsure, just go to Uniqlo) to dress decently well. Well enough to feel good about yourself every time you step out the door to go out.

Sure it's mostly the same you, as if you'd been wearing cheap sandals and a disgusting ARMY singlet, but that bit of difference is huge in terms of the impression you can make. And more importantly, the way you feel about yourself.

And you don't even need to hit the gym.

https://pics.me.me/expectations-reality-nice-pecs-bro-how-much-can-you-bench-221498.png

I see plenty of gym guys with arms so big they walk like gorillas or with skin so bad (they show a lot of it because they think their muscles look incredibly sexy). I doubt they're getting any.

And those that are, is because their going to the gym is part of an overall routine designed to keep themselves feeling confident and good about themselves.

And that is the most important part, feeling good about yourself. It just shows from the clothes you wear, your body language.

People simply like being around people who feel good about themselves. Of course that should not cross over into arrogance which is unattractive to everyone.

They are many methods that a guy can go about finding women to meet, but before even going there, you simply have to work on yourself.

Very specifically, how you feel about yourself, and your ability to compete with other males for female attention. If you don't feel good about yourself, and feel inferior or anything, you aren't going to get anywhere, no matter how much you 'try your luck'

Yes, I started this thread because I keep on reading guys here attributing success or failure to luck when blind stupid luck has not that much to do with it.

Yes, having a), b) and c) do help, a lot. But there are so many things a guy can do to tilt the odds in his favor, and I'm pretty sure the main reason why so men don't do it is sheer PASSIVITY.

That passivity may have many causes, but if you wanna do something about it, there really is so much you can do. You just have to stop the self-pitying and believing that a lot of what you can and hope to achieve are beyond your ability to influence and effect.

It's a nasty mindset that adds no value to your life.

well said bro... well said...

[jabwemet]

Hey yes !!
I like the positivity this guy is preaching!
And I don’t think it’s all BS.. I don’t have a car, great bod or even a alotnof money but I fuck a lot because I think I have a positive mind side. You would not guess how many FLs or SBs reject me!
But I don’t let it affect me, keep having a positive attitude and effect positive change to my current profile and I think it has helped. From having 0 physical relations with women before 2005, I have since gone on to at least more than 20 since then! More than one a year!
Get in!!
I am a success story to a positive mindset!

[bradplay2018]

Hey yes !!
I like the positivity this guy is preaching!
And I don’t think it’s all BS.. I don’t have a car, great bod or even a alotnof money but I fuck a lot because I think I have a positive mind side. You would not guess how many FLs or SBs reject me!
But I don’t let it affect me, keep having a positive attitude and effect positive change to my current profile and I think it has helped. From having 0 physical relations with women before 2005, I have since gone on to at least more than 20 since then! More than one a year!
Get in!!
I am a success story to a positive mindset!

Sorry bro curious the more than 20 is pay money or free one

[jabwemet]

I always pay a lady for the honor of letting me smash her punani.

[larue]

Glad to hear Jabwemet's affirmation as well.

The truth is I have, to some or full extent all three of a), b) and c) and I have also seen enough to know how overrated they are.

I know there are some of you guys who are simply curious to know the exact methods, and procedures to follow in order to get a date/FB.

Unfortunately we can't, and won't share those publicly because they're like trade secrets,and frankly you must have your own method, otherwise you'd be following some silly template which frankly makes you look stupid more than anything else.

You must have your own method of operation.

I must admit I'm writing this more for the guys who are struggling to establish any kind of connection with the females, even more so than for those who simply want to ... fuck many women

Most importantly, before you even start your search for a date or a FB, you must believe strongly in your bones that:

a) There are a lot of women out there who feel as unfulfilled as you are, emotionally and/or sexually

b) YOU are capable of fulfilling this void that women have, and that's something no one can help with but yourself, and as long as you have recognized your own limits

If you don't believe these to be true, retreat back into your shell and blame everyone else for your misfortune.

But once you do believe these to be true, there's s much you can do to connect with women, and maybe get a date (yes, there are so many waiting and wishing that guys would try to date them, with or without a, b and/or c)

Make sure you are:

a) Interesting, have a good story to tell. And no, NS stories don't count. Everyone's watched Ah Boys to Men. It doesn't even have to be your own story, but it must be something emotionally engaging. If it's not meaningful to you, it won't be meaningful to anyone you're trying to talk to about it.

b) Passionate about something (helps with a). People are always drawn to somebody passionate about something. If you think about it and realize you have no passions, or nothing that you'd be really happy to achieve....

Now's the time to start thinking...
Nobody cares about the person who's passionate about having a good body cos that's just too clichéd.

Have a dream,an ambition of some sort, and it doesn't even have to be about money cos most people will never ever have a lot of it.

c) Be ambitious

Kinda like B, and ambition does not necessarily have to be about money (again).

Have something you want to achieve don't be shy about saying it if you believe it. Women love it, especially if you're willing to admit your fears about ever achieving them

d) Be honest

Don't pretend not to be looking for sex, especially if that's what you are

I see so many guys trying to be 'nice guys', pretending they aren't in it for sex. Forget it, you're just losers. Women know it, they get propositioned all the time, and they know that what you want i sex, no matter how you deny it.

And believe me, many want it as much as you do They just need to know who they want to give it to.

State what you want, be tasteful about it. (Almost) No woman wants to be think of themselves as being easy

That men should want to fuck as many women as they can does not mean men should should, or can get away with thinking of every woman as a sex object

c) Be well groomed

I think I'd gone over this before . If you can't look in the mirror and say 'I'm happy with how I look today', forget about a woman giving you the time if the day.

These rules are general in nature, but by and large true.

If you can't be love yourself, no one else can.

I'm writing this more for the guys struggling to get a date than the ones just wanting to fuck more women without (paying) because nobody
should have to feel unloved , or unloveable and society still places the burden of action on men.

Within reasonable limits, nobody should need to feel unloved and unwanted

[reading]

I always pay a lady for the honor of letting me smash her punani.

no money no punani

back to A) n B) :D

[sghunter888]

Looks, money and cars are secondary. Make us laugh and shower us with the right amount of attention!

I agree with TS. Actually, you just need that one quality/thing to get the game rolling. The littlest thing can get guys in our pants.

I'm trying to get into my colleagues pants but Idk how. TS CAN YOU DO A GUIDE FOR LADIES PLEASE?

[secret75]

Wow some very good advice here, for the Bros who need them. Whether or not it’s to look for FBs (I’m currently not looking), we should still apply what’s in this thread. Look good, have ambition, and a good story to tell (ideally recent).

[prettymannequin]

Yea. Honestly if guys just want a FB it'd be better if they weren't rich or really good-looking. Girls might see them as boyf material instead of FB material.

If I could give a piece of advice, work on your banter. A girl can tell everything from your banter (or lack of it).

[TheIdesOfMarch]

Yea. Honestly if guys just want a FB it'd be better if they weren't rich or really good-looking. Girls might see them as boyf material instead of FB material.

If I could give a piece of advice, work on your banter. A girl can tell everything from your banter (or lack of it).

Lol if banter would work then mine should have worked on you a long time ago. Otherwise why would you have endorsed my banter on my own thread before? Haha.

[prettymannequin]

Lol if banter would work then mine should have worked on you a long time ago. Otherwise why would you have endorsed my banter on my own thread before? Haha.

I love good looking guys and Olivier Giroud is fucking handsome but he's just not my type.

You have banter but that doesn't mean we automatically click. Also don't take it personally cause nothing on here works on me. :)

[TheIdesOfMarch]

I love good looking guys and Olivier Giroud is fucking handsome but he's just not my type.

You have banter but that doesn't mean we automatically click. Also don't take it personally cause nothing on here works on me. :)

Hahahaha! No offence taken, I was just bantering like you said. :)

[jabwemet]

I love good looking guys and Olivier Giroud is fucking handsome but he's just not my type.

You have banter but that doesn't mean we automatically click. Also don't take it personally cause nothing on here works on me. :)

Challenge Accepted! :D

[TheIdesOfMarch]

Challenge Accepted! :D

If people on here already said nothing here works for them and they're just here for the socialising and banter, don't push your luck and try to be the hero to prove them wrong. It just comes across as being pushy and disrespectful to her, and it gives us men a bad name for not respecting the wishes of women who aren't looking for anything more than socialising online or in person. I'm sure there's plenty of willing female Samsters on here who would be a lot more available for you if you want to have some fun.

#justsaying

[prettymannequin]

If people on here already said nothing here works for them and they're just here for the socialising and banter, don't push your luck and try to be the hero to prove them wrong. It just comes across as being pushy and disrespectful to her, and it gives us men a bad name for not respecting the wishes of women who aren't looking for anything more than socialising online or in person. I'm sure there's plenty of willing female Samsters on here who would be a lot more available for you if you want to have some fun.

#justsaying

Thank you! I was intending to close an eye but this is a nice gesture anyway.

[TheIdesOfMarch]

Thank you! I was intending to close an eye but this is a nice gesture anyway.

:cool: Got your back fellow Samstress!

[jabwemet]

If people on here already said nothing here works for them and they're just here for the socialising and banter, don't push your luck and try to be the hero to prove them wrong. It just comes across as being pushy and disrespectful to her, and it gives us men a bad name for not respecting the wishes of women who aren't looking for anything more than socialising online or in person. I'm sure there's plenty of willing female Samsters on here who would be a lot more available for you if you want to have some fun.

#justsaying

Wah sei! You’ve changed your tune! So #woke!
Good for you!

[TheIdesOfMarch]

Wah sei! You’ve changed your tune! So #woke!
Good for you!

My tune has never been different. Your sarcasm merely conceals your own insecurity about being called out for your BS like this.

If you don't know how to drop that superiority complex of yours, thinking that you're different from other men and that you can change the mind of a girl on here who already said she doesn't need her mind changing, then you frankly shouldn't be swinging or doing anything sex-related, because you have zero concept of what consent or respect means.

[justl00king]

I love good looking guys and Olivier Giroud is fucking handsome but he's just not my type.

You have banter but that doesn't mean we automatically click. Also don't take it personally cause nothing on here works on me. :)
Pretty, how to find out if we click? :D

So what is yr type? ;) me confirm not yr type :( good looking :eek::p

[larue]

Guys, this thread exists to help shy, maybe less confident guys get a date, or get laid with someone other than their wives, girlfriends or service providers.

So let's keep it on point please.

What to do to get their attention

My expertise is on social media apps etc, although I imagine it's not much different from approaching a girl in real life. The principles are the same in general, and perhaps I should start trying that now that I can.

Anyway, first things first. You gotta make yourself heard and noticed, because girls get a crap ton of messages. Especially if they show some skin because that gets guys drooling like animals. And they don't even need to be attractive.

What you need to do is make an interesting proposition. Make them feel that something good could possibly come out of letting you into their lives.

So you don't jut say 'hi'. Cos how the hell does anyone reply to that, just Hi as well? You have to show from the start that chatting with you could be a worthwhile activity.

So what absolutely does not work is stuff like 'you're pretty, care to chat?', or 'want to chat with a hunk?' etc etc.

Chat about what? The girls just gonna go 'wtf, you want to chat with me, and you even want me to come up with something to chat about'.

You must start by offering something that makes them pause to think a bit, before deciding that you may be an interesting person go chat with. You need to make an impression with your opening.

Girls get so many messages most will get trashed, very quickly. You want to minimize the chance of yours getting trashed.

So come up with something vaguely interesting to say. Everyone who's ever had success has their own opening, and they use it almost every time, sometimes with customization.

And keep empty praise to a minimum. They've heard it all before. You're just boring if you do that as well.

And if you manage to get a response, then you can move on to establishing rapport, using a mixture of banter, concern, genuine interest and whatever else can be thrown into the mix.

[larue]

Looks, money and cars are secondary. Make us laugh and shower us with the right amount of attention!

I agree with TS. Actually, you just need that one quality/thing to get the game rolling. The littlest thing can get guys in our pants.

I'm trying to get into my colleagues pants but Idk how. TS CAN YOU DO A GUIDE FOR LADIES PLEASE?

Lol, I'm afraid I haven't the expertise to help you get into his pants but I'm sure there's plenty of guys here who can. And even more who will pretend they can, but whose intentions will be quite different from what they claim!

But there must be other women on these boards who have successfully would something like that off, and have advice for you.

It would be really interesting to have a woman write a guide for women actually!

Maybe you might want to try doing it. :)

[larue]

Last couple of posts didn't quite hit the mark.

I've been overseas for a while now, but I hope I'll be able to add some more useful information and advice when I return shortly.

[rememberbest]

Amazing thread TS rooting for more info from you :)

[larue]

I have been too lazy to update this for a looong time... but recently something someone said prompts me to update this.

‘Be proactive’... someone I am setting up a date with said something about me being pro active, apparently when all I said was ‘I will think of something’, which is my usual response when someone has decided that she likes me enough based on very limited interaction to agree to go out with me.

It was something that she liked because apparently, a lot of guys aren’t? I’d post a screen shot if I knew how to but I don’t.

But I realize it’s true. Nobody wants to go out with a guy who goes ‘whatever lor’, ‘what do you like to do?’

Just make a decision so they can go yes or no. Seriously, most women (or people) don’t want to think about these things cos they aren’t the ones asking you out on a date. Work presents enough of this decision making shit.

[stonned]

I have been too lazy to update this for a looong time... but recently something someone said prompts me to update this.

‘Be proactive’... someone I am setting up a date with said something about me being pro active, apparently when all I said was ‘I will think of something’, which is my usual response when someone has decided that she likes me enough based on very limited interaction to agree to go out with me.

It was something that she liked because apparently, a lot of guys aren’t? I’d post a screen shot if I knew how to but I don’t.

But I realize it’s true. Nobody wants to go out with a guy who goes ‘whatever lor’, ‘what do you like to do?’

Just make a decision so they can go yes or no. Seriously, most women (or people) don’t want to think about these things cos they aren’t the ones asking you out on a date. Work presents enough of this decision making shit.

This is very true, if you don't want to make the woman think you are a clueless dude or just plain dull. Just spend a little of bit time, check out the possible places you can take the gal to. Then suggest 2-3 options and let her pick. Way better than just asking "where you want to go?". If she doesn't like your suggestions, then you can ask her for ideas.

[unsung80]

FB, FWB or quite simply, you want a date...

It's not that hard, and what's holding you back is frankly not:

A) not being rich
B) not having a car
C) being good-looking

If you believe what's preventing you from getting one is any of the above, quite frankly you are just looking for excuses. Anything you can use to excuse yourself for FAILING.

Getting a date/fb is far less daunting than you think,subject to the usual caveats (eg if you have no money, no looks and no nice car, you should probably not expect to get a date or a sex session with somebody who is obviously OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE). Yes, this shit happens.

But if you cut your clothes according to your cloth so to speak, there is NO reason why any of you guys should not get a date/FB.

I have seen many other guys here giving good advice on how to score, but I have seen even more giving terrible easy-to--accept advice that is as easy to digest as it is untrue designed to make you give up without trying.

You guys do not deserve to be alone. You can break out of that cycle.
Very well said! Am exactly that example!

[aseandude]

Each individual is so unique that you might come across a girl who prefers to make the decision or take the lead.

Better to be flexible like a wise man once said,

"Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend

[larue]

Each individual is so unique that you might come across a girl who prefers to make the decision or take the lead.

Better to be flexible like a wise man once said,



Yes, every individual is unique. But hopefully guys won’t take you too literally and think they’re gonna find someone ‘who prefers to make the decision or take the lead’ because there really aren’t enough of such women to go around for the guys who are waiting around.

Most women just prefer having the man take the lead.

[larue]

The opening line, as far as social interaction apps go, that is...

And I think where many guys don’t even get beyond (this is coming from reading another thread by Unsung of his formidable exploits):

The initial engagement needs to be polite, and most importantly engaging.

A dick pic, or an invitation to have ‘fun’ (according to the ridiculous male definition) is definitely not it.

It is not enough to be polite. Your introduction needs to be engaging, and to an extent, thought provoking.

Obviously a ‘hi’ will not suffice because the only way to rely to a hi, is with a plain hi back. And women, tend to get so many that ‘hi’s’ automatically get trashed. Even good intros get trashed, so you want to minimise the chance if that happening.

Ask them something that’s:

a) specific (to them, or to you. Which is is would depend on their profile vis-à-vis yours)

b) it must not be too open ended. You’re the man, online, women expect you to lead the way. In rl they may end up asking all the questions, but initially it will be up to you to ask the right questions

c) do not compliment them on appearance right off the bat. Any half decent looking female will get so many insincere compliments about their looks that another one won’t mean anything unless you’re frighteningly witty about it.

Women love compliments, but they can easily tell when it’s blatantly insincere because that smacks of a horrible combination of laziness and desperation.

d) it has to pique their interest enough such that they will allow you a little bit more into their lives. At the very least, they must decide very quickly whether you are intriguing enough to be worth replying to, or just as boring as the last guy who messaged them.

No one can tell you what that line is, because

1) it’s our fucking line and we aren’t gonna share it with you, and

2) only you can make your line come to life because it will have been built on either what you are, or what you’re after

Go get creative.

As every dating website will tell you, and my guess is you haven’t actually researched any if you’re reading this for advice, you don’t get a second chance to make a first impression.

So learn and practise making it count or carry on getting nowhere.

[stonned]

Just a quick tip, trying to befriend women online is like classic advertising. Always be testing! Heard of A/B testing? Yes, that applies for dating too! Try to come up with several opening lines, rotate them and see which one gets more/better response. You will find one or two and stands out from the rest. The point is, don't be lazy dude!

[Jinjia]

Wow this is really gd advice... I esp love the part about being proactive. Sg men love to say anything u decide I hate it even though I do want a say on where to go... I hope more guys will put into practise what u advice bcoz frankly u r right when u said everyone has needs it’s just who to give to....

[larue]

Just a quick tip, trying to befriend women online is like classic advertising. Always be testing! Heard of A/B testing? Yes, that applies for dating too! Try to come up with several opening lines, rotate them and see which one gets more/better response. You will find one or two and stands out from the rest. The point is, don't be lazy dude!

Q(uoted)F(or)T(Ruth). QFT.

Not directly related,but I remember an IKEA (sg) ad many years ago.

It was about some gangsters trying to get some guy to reveal the location of a certain item.

And the guy being ‘interrogated’ said: ‘我不知道’. And ‘我真的不知道’ (I don’t know followed by I really don’t know) and the camera panned to his apartment which was completely cluttered like a karang guni house.

And I thought that ad was fantastic and I’d love to have a chat with the people behind it. Not only was it funny, it was incredibly suggestive. And that’s what every opening pm/dm should be: interesting/funny:challenging yet suggestive of something more. And the only way to achieve that is to have something of your own.

[larue]

Wow this is really gd advice... I esp love the part about being proactive. Sg men love to say anything u decide I hate it even though I do want a say on where to go... I hope more guys will put into practise what u advice bcoz frankly u r right when u said everyone has needs it’s just who to give to....

Again truly, it is shocking how little men want to take the initiative which gives any guy willing to put even an ounce of effort such a big head start.

So for those of you guys willing to step out of your comfort zone even a little, your odds increase dramatically.

And it really really helps to be passionate about something. A man who’s passionate about something, anything is simply more interesting than a man who shrugs his shoulders and isn’t passionate about, or interested in anything at all. Besides copulation with a female.

[stonned]

Again truly, it is shocking how little men want to take the initiative which gives any guy willing to put even an ounce of effort such a big head start.

So for those of you guys willing to step out of your comfort zone even a little, your odds increase dramatically.

And it really really helps to be passionate about something. A man who’s passionate about something, anything is simply more interesting than a man who shrugs his shoulders and isn’t passionate about, or interested in anything at all. Besides copulation with a female.

Probably because most of us are conditioned to be a follower so not being comfortable to stick your head out and truly lead. And sometimes SG women can make you feel intimidated as a man due to their bahavior as independent, capable gals.

But deep down, most (or nearly all) women wants a man who leads. A man who makes her feel like a woman, want to be a woman, and act like one :-D

[dshunter]

Heyyo! Newbie here. I got a question guys...how d’you know if girls on dating apps are open to FB/sex or not? Because many girls are truly there to make friends/find a serious rs and I hate offending them by asking otherwise...

[Warnerpoind]

Hey, Tahlia. I know this is the games board, but this thread does have a topic, so could you please stay on it? If you want to spam, go in shout spam.

The Scarecrow is scaryyyyyyyyyyy, me no want. D:

[larue]

Heyyo! Newbie here. I got a question guys...how d’you know if girls on dating apps are open to FB/sex or not? Because many girls are truly there to make friends/find a serious rs and I hate offending them by asking otherwise...

You ask them whether they’re keen to let you fuck without commitment from you and see what happens lor. Girls love feeling like they’re only being used for sex after all right?

I mean I don’t know if anyone actually asks a question like that. It’s like asking to be slapped.

Make it a point to never make promises, or give false assurances that you are looking for a life partner, or even a long term relationship that can lead to marriage or something like that. I make very sure never to even hint at that even if they ask outright.

And then it’s up to them. Don’t presume you can think for them. What they want to find is up to them, what they can accept is also ip to them. What is up to you is what you can offer.

Finding one who won’t feel some sort of emotional attachment to you would be hard though. Most women just can’t put out for a guy unless they have at the very least nice warm feelings about the guy.

That said, best steer clear of those that clearly want only a serious relationship if that’s not what you want at all now.

[larue]

It’s been a stressful day for me, so I’ve decided to come update this thread just for kicks.

This is probably a bit more advanced, but a something most experienced guys already practise, but more often than not unconsciously. For less experienced guys, doing this may actually require some thought and planning.

And what I am referring to is this, harnessing the power of suggestion. This brings to mind a fabulous Ikea TV spot I remember from maybe 15-20 years ago.

There’s this man being interrogated by a bunch of bad guys who are trying to get him to reveal the whereabouts of a certain item.

Said man denies knowledge of where item is. The baddies ask again, more menacingly this time.

The guy says ‘我真的不知道’ (ie I really don’t know) in a somewhat drawn out exaggerated tone, and the camera pans out to the rest of his apartment, and iris a total mess, almost like a karang guni house.

It was brilliant. At no point did the ad exhort you to go to IKEA and buy anything. But because everyone already knows IKEA is in the business of furnishing, the implication is clear:

IKEA can help you clear up your mess. It is never said, never even implied yet totally understood.

In terms of dating, I suppose it works like this. You don’t ask a girl or a woman out by promising them a good or interesting time.

Because in prior communications, you would already have suggested it. Subliminally and unconsciously. That when you ask them out, you already know the answer will be yes.

Because you had previously already ‘suggested’ to them that they will enjoy it. And they feel that way already because that is a big part of the goodwill you will have built up with them already.

There are several ways to build up this goodwill, or 好感 towards you. Certain techniques are very, very effective as a finisher or clincher.